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Important Fence Question - ***EXCITING UPDATES WITHIN*** (1 Viewer)

Which location would you put the fence?

  • Location 1 - before the door

    Votes: 34 79.1%

  • Location 2 - after the door

    Votes: 10 23.3%
  • Total voters
    43
offdee said:
How does the connecting to the neighbor's fence all come into play here?   Where are you connecting to?
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That may be another drawing. Basically location 2 is a direct shot from the corner of his fence.

On location one we are coming off his corner and coming toward the front of the house about 10 feet and then over. 

 
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belljr said:
Might need to start over with location 3. I still choose one but 3 would be my second choice
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location 3 pro would be if you have a puppy or young child and go out the back patio then the dog/kid can never venture to the side of the house where they are out of sightlines.  Over there eating poop, digging holes and whatnot.

I'd probably actually vote for this one if you had a shed in the backyard that stored your lawnmower, lawn stuff, etc.

 
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offdee said:
location 3 pro would be if you have a dog or young child and go out the back patio then the dog/kid can never venture to the side of the house where they are out of sightlines.
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Yeah. My kids are older so this isn't an issue at this point. They've all been taught to aim for the nuts and the eyes in case someone tries to grab 'em.

 
ChiefD said:
That may be another drawing. Basically location 2 is a direct shot from the corner of his fence.

On location one we are coming off his corner and coming toward the front of the house about 10 feet and then over. 
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Hmmm, interesting.

Where is your Air Conditioning unit and Utility box/water meter placed in all of this?    In an ideal world it would be nice to have your fence in front of that too so you don't have to see that from the front as driving/walking by.    

 
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ChiefD said:
Yeah. My kids are older so this isn't an issue at this point. They've all been taught to aim for the nuts and the eyes in case someone tries to grab 'em.
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I was mostly referring to it as an upside for a puppy not venturing around the corner out of sightlines.  Over there eating poop, digging up holes, etc.    Also when you let them out and if the fence door was accidentally left open you'll see that from your patio doors.   Not the case if it's in one of the original drawing locations...let the puppy out, don't realize the fence door is ajar and puppy is off to the races to the front of your house and street.

 
belljr said:
Dumb question..... What location will the other side line up with
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I haven't decided yet. That side of my house is where all my utilities come in (electrical, porn wire, etc) It won't be lined up the same as the other side. More than likely approximately Location 2. I have a basement window on that side too I have to deal with.

That's a whole other discussion. 

 
offdee said:
Hmmm, interesting.

Where is your Air Conditioning unit placed in all of this?    In an ideal world it would be nice to have your fence in front of that too so you don't have to see that from the front as driving/walking by.    
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AC is on the other side. But the front of my house has brick knee walls on both sides, so the air conditioner is pretty hidden anyway. 

 
offdee said:
I was mostly referring to it as an upside for a puppy not venturing around the corner out of sightlines.  Over there eating poop, digging up holes, etc.    Also when you let them out and if the fence door was accidentally left open you'll see that from your patio doors.   Not the case if it's in one of the original drawing locations...let the puppy out, don't realize the fence door is ajar and puppy is off to the races to the front of your house and street.
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That location 3 would certainly save me a few bucks. The only downside is I'm then coming off the side of the neighbors fence instead of the corner. Creates a pocket for leaves to congregate. 

If I choose Location 1 that pocket is then on HIS side, so all the ####### leaves from his oak tree in the front that he never rakes up would be in HIS fence pocket area. 

 
ChiefD said:
AC is on the other side. But the front of my house has brick knee walls on both sides, so the air conditioner is pretty hidden anyway. 
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Is your fireplace chimney "pretty" ?  ...nice brick, a structure that works with the architecture of the house?    Might be something else to consider if you want the fence to be in front of that from the front view and take sightlines away from the chimney (if it's ugly), or putting the fence behind the chimney (option 3) would put more focus on your chimney and make the fence not as prominent from the front view.

 
offdee said:
Is your fireplace chimney "pretty" ?  ...nice brick, a structure that works with the architecture of the house?    Might be something else to consider if you want the fence to be in front of that from the front view and take sightlines away from the chimney (if it's ugly), or putting the fence behind the chimney (option 3) would put more focus on your chimney and make the fence not as prominent from the front view.
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Yeah it's a nice brick chimney. My house has brick on the front so it all ties together nicely. Painted shake shingles on the rest of the house.

It's quite lovely. 

 
ChiefD said:
Yeah it's a nice brick chimney. My house has brick on the front so it all ties together nicely. Painted shake shingles on the rest of the house.

It's quite lovely. 
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Then honestly option 3 might be the way to go.   The less focus on a fence from the front view, the better.  Will also expose more green lawn from the front view as well and highlight your beautiful brick chimney more.  Just have a shed in the backyard to store all lawn equipment so easy to get at.    I'm sure there are some solutions to preventing leaves being built up by the fence cornering off your neighbors if that's a big deal.

 
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offdee said:
Then honestly  option 3 might be the way to go.   Just have a shed in the backyard to store all lawn equipment so easy to get at.    I'm sure there are some solutions to preventing leaves being built up by the fence cornering off your neighbors if that's a big deal.
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I don't think I want a shed. I can fit everything perfectly in the garage. As a matter of fact I just redesigned it this winter in anticipation of the new garage floor and also to create a better user flow.

I have the garden section. A fishing section. A BBQ section. A tool section. And beer drinking section. I may need to take some video to provide the full picture. 

The problem with a shed is I would overbuild it so I could have another place to hang out. Which means I would run power to it, probably build a front deck on it, etc. I don't have the energy for that. I can't just build a shed. 

 
ChiefD said:
I don't think I want a shed. I can fit everything perfectly in the garage. As a matter of fact I just redesigned it this winter in anticipation of the new garage floor and also to create a better user flow.

I have the garden section. A fishing section. A BBQ section. A tool section. And beer drinking section. I may need to take some video to provide the full picture. 

The problem with a shed is I would overbuild it so I could have another place to hang out. Which means I would run power to it, probably build a front deck on it, etc. I don't have the energy for that. I can't just build a shed. 
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Lol, all the shed would need to be is big enough to drive your rider mower into it, and a corner to have the push mower sit.   On the walls hang wheelbarrow, rakes, shovels, etc.  No need for any power.  Just paint it the same color as your house and shingle it with the same shingles as your house. WA LA.

Then think of all the extra room you'd have in your main garage for something cool.   Build a wet bar where your rider mower used to sit.  You're welcome.

 
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In any event I think the only two real options you should consider are Location 1 or newly talked about Location 3.   Continue off of the lines of the main house front or back for balance and design consistency.

Can't go wrong with either...just your preference of what you want to highlight.   If it's location 1 then make sure materials are really nice and it's a cool design element because it will stand out from the front view more.

I don't see many pros at all with Location 2 other than able to just continue the line from your neighbor's fence.

 
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offdee said:
In any event I think the only two real options you should consider are Location 1 or newly talked about Location 3.   Continue off of the lines of the main house front or back for balance and design consistency.

Can't go wrong with either...just your preference of what you want to highlight.   If it's location 1 then make sure materials are really nice and it's a cool design element because it will stand out from the front view more.

I don't see many pros at all with Location 2 other than able to just continue the line from your neighbor's fence.
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The design should be pretty nice. It will be a 6' cedar fence that mirrors what my neighbor has for continuity. Something like the taller section of fence in this picture.

 
ChiefD said:
The design should be pretty nice. It will be a 6' cedar fence that mirrors what my neighbor has for continuity. Something like the taller section of fence in this picture.
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Will it stay that color though or turn to an ugly greenish/grey as it weathers?  

I guess personally I'm just not a fan of the look of fences...feels like it cheapens a nice house.   My instinct is to try and make them less of a focal point which is why I lean to Location 3.   

 
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offdee said:
Will it stay that color though or turn to an ugly greenish/grey as it weathers?  

I guess personally I'm just not a fan of the look of fences...feels like it cheapens a nice house.   My instinct is to try and make them less of a focal point which is why I lean to Location 3.   
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All you need to do is power wash and restain but that's also why I switched to vinyl fencing ;)

 
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offdee said:
Will it stay that color though or turn to an ugly greenish/grey as it weathers?  

I guess personally I'm just not a fan of the look of fences...feels like it cheapens a nice house.   My instinct is to try and make them less of a focal point which is why I lean to Location 3.   
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belljr said:
All you need to do is power wash and restain
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This is the plan. 

 
offdee said:
I guess personally I'm just not a fan of the look of fences...feels like it cheapens a nice house.   
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Yeah I hear you.  I would prefer not to have a fence at all. The problem is my neighbors in the back don't have fences and they are really letting their properties go a little bit. I'm a yard nut - I'm always planting and messing with the grass and stuff. So consequently my yard and property looks nice.

I'm tired of looking at their sloppy work. 

 
I think you should go on a coca cola (didn't want to just say Coke) binge and save all the cans.  Then use said cans to create a fence like barrier around your entire house.  Then there is no need to choose a location for the other fence because it will then not be needed.  By binging on all that Coke you will have pulled the Brewster's Millions punishment and no longer want to drink that again.  Kill two birds with one stone.  

 
ChiefD said:
Yeah I hear you.  I would prefer not to have a fence at all. The problem is my neighbors in the back don't have fences and they are really letting their properties go a little bit. I'm a yard nut - I'm always planting and messing with the grass and stuff. So consequently my yard and property looks nice.

I'm tired of looking at their sloppy work. 
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I had that issue at my old house and chose to instead make a barrier of fast growing, tall and lush bushes. May take a couple years to fully fill in but right away it makes your sight line stop at your landscaping bushes. And just looks nicer and classier. 
 

ETA: after a lot of research, I went with an Arrowwood Viburnum as my main privacy bush. Plant them relatively close together (root balls about 3 ft apart) so they grow into a dence hedge.  But beautiful seasonal colors and cool wood in winters. Mulch and other flowering smaller bushes on front of it for depth and interest. Looked great. Live in Wisconsin. 
 

And bonus, was exponentially cheaper than a fence 

 
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belljr said:
All you need to do is power wash and restain but that's also why I switched to vinyl fencing ;)
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If that’s needed every couple years anyways, might as well just paint it the same main color as the house and it will then disappear more at least. 

 
I lean toward #2.  A primary reason is the lack of sun directly north of the fence.  Grass isn't likely to grow well there.  From #2 (with the side door just north of the fence), you could have some pavers by that side door to address the poor conditions for the grass there.  Maybe you have some already.  I also like that it aligns with the neighbor's fence for a clean line.  Another point: While you're hanging out in the garage (drinking beer and watching baseball), the open side door will be part of the street-side flow ...I like that continuity.

 
offdee said:
Lol, all the shed would need to be is big enough to drive your rider mower into it, and a corner to have the push mower sit.   On the walls hang wheelbarrow, rakes, shovels, etc.  No need for any power.  Just paint it the same color as your house and shingle it with the same shingles as your house. WA LA.

Then think of all the extra room you'd have in your main garage for something cool.   Build a wet bar where your rider mower used to sit.  You're welcome.
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Like a 4th TV.  I simply don't how you manage with only 3 in the garage.

 
I keep seeing this and seeing "Important France question..."

I don't have an answer to either question, really. Keep it subtle and off the neighbor's lawn unless you're going for adverse possession of an easement, which would be a study in psychology to follow-up on here. 

 
tri-man 47 said:
I lean toward #2.  A primary reason is the lack of sun directly north of the fence.  Grass isn't likely to grow well there.  From #2 (with the side door just north of the fence), you could have some pavers by that side door to address the poor conditions for the grass there.  Maybe you have some already.  I also like that it aligns with the neighbor's fence for a clean line.  Another point: While you're hanging out in the garage (drinking beer and watching baseball), the open side door will be part of the street-side flow ...I like that continuity.
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I didn't think about the grass situation. I do get a fair amount of sunshine still there even with my neighbors fence up. I would probably do some landscaping along that fence for the poor grass areas. You are right - there will need to be an adjustment there of some kind.

 
I say option #4.

Split the difference between 1 and 2 and put it right in the middle of the door. This way when you open your door, you can go either way. 

 
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gianmarco said:
I say option #4.

Split the difference between 1 and 2 and put it right in the middle of the door. This way when you open your door, you can go either way. 
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Good idea. Put in one of those big circular turnstyle doors. Efficient 

 
Where are your electrical outlet and water spout (if any) over there?

Is the ground flat in that entire area?

One other possible consideration.  One of the best features of our backyard fence is I strung outdoor lights along the top to use at night when we are back there - love it.  Kind of goes with the outlet question but will you easily be able to support doing that (if you choose)?

 
AAABatteries said:
Where are your electrical outlet and water spout (if any) over there?

Is the ground flat in that entire area?

One other possible consideration.  One of the best features of our backyard fence is I strung outdoor lights along the top to use at night when we are back there - love it.  Kind of goes with the outlet question but will you easily be able to support doing that (if you choose)?
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The ground slopes a little bit. Sillcocks are in the front and back.  Electrical outlet on the back of the house. 

Probably won't string up lights. We hang out on the back patio but I have a possible covered patio project in mind for that.

 
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If you let a dog out through the side door, in front for sure. 

If other people are using the side door, that is a big reason for the back location 

 
ChiefD said:
The ground slopes a little bit. Sillcocks are in the front and back.  Electrical outlet on the back of the house. 

Probably won't string up lights. We hang out on the back patio but I have a possible covered patio project in mind for that.
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Gotcha - having to take a hose or electrical cord over a fence can be a PITA but sounds like you are good.

 
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