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I feel like when you’re ranking something in the bottom 1-2%, you’ll need to have some criticisms of it. We’re still in the realm of “songs I turn off when they come on,” but we’ll be out of that fairly soon.
I feel like when you’re ranking something in the bottom 1-2%, you’ll need to have some criticisms of it. We’re still in the realm of “songs I turn off when they come on,” but we’ll be out of that fairly soon.
I find it highly digactic....
Paul's problem, John's too, is that he needed someone to tell him "no". Once the two of them fell out, and they were "fell out" on this album especially, they ran amok. Both were so talented that they could still hit the bulls-eye enough to offset some of that. It got worse on their solo records, but it's very apparent on the White album.2. Sometimes it seems like Paul is so good at creating any kind of music, that he almost seems to be parodying them. To be clear, I don't think he means to, and that he is sincere in his love for these genres, but as an example, on this one I feel like the addition of the old phonograph sounds at the beginning, as well as the use of his vocal in an old-fashioned way could dip into parody. This "slipping into" parody will come up again later in our discussion of Rocky Raccoon.
Fabulous post. There’s another song coming up later where I intended to make the point that I feel like Paul needed a best friend to be honest with him and say, “No, don’t do [a particular thing].” But your application of that principle more broadly seems spot on.Paul's problem, John's too, is that he needed someone to tell him "no". Once the two of them fell out, and they were "fell out" on this album especially, they ran amok. Both were so talented that they could still hit the bulls-eye enough to offset some of that. It got worse on their solo records, but it's very apparent on the White album.
Put another way, I think the early/mid Beatles' Paul & John enhanced each other when they collaborated. I think, Sgt Pepper and later, they - at best - cancelled each other's worst tendencies when they'd still actually work together (as opposed to using each other as sidemen, which is what happened on the White Album). Which still brought the world some stunning music.
Or put yet another way, they were both terrible self-editors.
This made me lol.krista4 said:Mr. krista: "It’s dumb. I could hear Ray Davies listening to that, and thinking 'WTF? That’s what they did? We are better – I knew it! We’ve been better this whole time!' That sounds like the Kinks ####### around on a Village Green outtake."
I am more than happy to entertain anyone’s suggestions on covers. I have some jotted down, mostly for songs I like much better, but I don’t think I have any of his and will be in the lookout.And also for the cover versions, not to spoil things but I hope to see the name Wes Montgomery at least once or twice
Check out his covers of Eleanor Rigby and Day in the Life. Love his Rigby version. Smooth as silkI am more than happy to entertain anyone’s suggestions on covers. I have some jotted down, mostly for songs I like much better, but I don’t think I have any of his and will be in the lookout.
Also will check out the group that @BroncoFreak_2K3 mentioned.
#1 My Sweet Lord (Harrison)
#2 Instant Karma (Lennon)
#3 What is Life (Harrison)
#4 Imagine (Lennon)
#5 Silly Love Songs (McCartney)
#6 It Don't Come Easy (Starr [Harrison])
#7 Band on the Run (McCartney)
#8 Jet (McCartney)
#9 Photograph (Starr)
#10 Give Me Love (Harrison)
#11 With a Little Luck (McCartney)
#12 Live and Let Die (McCartney)
#13 Maybe I'm Amazed (McCartney)
#14 Listen to What the Man Says (McCartney)
#15 Stand by Me (Lennon [King])
#16 Give Peace a Chance (Lennon)
#17 Another Day (McCartney)
#18 Happy X-mas (Lennon)
#19 Whatever Gets You Through the Night (Lennon)
#20 Let Em In (McCartney)
#21 Watching the Wheels (Lennon)
#22 Starting Over (Lennon)
#23 Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (McCartney)
#24 Woman (Lennon)
#25 #9 Dream (Lennon)
My favorite Beatles hater is @KarmaPolice.These songs so far would make a great mix tape for your favorite Beatles hater.
As I mentioned to Henry earlier, some of these songs might rank higher if I listened to them in context rather than in isolation. As it is, I listen to them mostly in two settings: (1) Beatles channel in the car, which I rarely change to a different channel, including a 14-hour roadtrip last summer (aren't you glad you aren't married to me?), and (2) on the Spotify playlist i have set up with all the Beatles songs and then randomize them while working out, hiking solo, walking anywhere, etc.Beatles are like my favorite band but I couldn’t take this on. Top twenty would be an agonizing affair. Kudos krista and Mr krista
P.S. I don’t skip anything on the White Album. It must be ingested whole.
That makes perfect sense. I missed that.My favorite Beatles hater is @KarmaPolice.
As I mentioned to Henry earlier, some of these songs might rank higher if I listened to them in context rather than in isolation. As it is, I listen to them mostly in two settings: (1) Beatles channel in the car, which I rarely change to a different channel, including a 14-hour roadtrip last summer (aren't you glad you aren't married to me?), and (2) on the Spotify playlist i have set up with all the Beatles songs and then randomize them while working out, hiking solo, walking anywhere, etc.
very subliminally subtextual.I have had coitus to no less than 3 of Krista's bottom 5 songs
that's what she said.Beatles are like my favorite band but I couldn’t take this on. Top twenty would be an agonizing affair. Kudos krista and Mr krista
P.S. I don’t skip anything on the White Album. It must be ingested whole.
I might like it better if he was replaced by Don Cheadle.Do you like it better now that you know Larry Williams looked like Terrence Howard?
My favorite Beatles hater is @KarmaPolice.
As I mentioned to Henry earlier, some of these songs might rank higher if I listened to them in context rather than in isolation. As it is, I listen to them mostly in two settings: (1) Beatles channel in the car, which I rarely change to a different channel, including a 14-hour roadtrip last summer (aren't you glad you aren't married to me?), and (2) on the Spotify playlist i have set up with all the Beatles songs and then randomize them while working out, hiking solo, walking anywhere, etc.
Did you ever do it in the road?I have had coitus to no less than 3 of Krista's bottom 5 songs
I’m going to guess Wild Honey Pie and Dig It, since they’re each less than a minute long, and Piggies, because of the snorts.I have had coitus to no less than 3 of Krista's bottom 5 songs
I gave her the best 0:53 of her lifeI’m going to guess Wild Honey Pie and Dig It, since they’re each less than a minute long, and Piggies, because of the snorts.
You mean He's So Fine?i know its just old george but i will always have a soft spot in my dusty old heart for my sweet lord take that to the bank brochachos
Let's enjoy it while we can. Btw, your two favorites ended up much higher, and in reverse order, than I initially thought.Just. No on Bad Boy. Couldn't even make it through thirty seconds. Swell pick. We're in, um, agreeance.
I asked Mr. krista about this song again. Updated remarks: "Of course I hate this. It's like a poisonous slug. It's prima facie terrible. It sucks the moisture out of infants' eyes and leaves them dead."202. A Taste of Honey
Beatles version
I've always disliked this song just as a Beatles recording (without reference to what it covers), but in this instance it almost makes me angry how much worse they made it. I feel like they made it almost unrecognizable, which is not bad in and of itself. I'd rather have someone do that than note-by-note mimicry (hello, Weezer's Africa!), but in this case I feel that they fell far short with their version, not only compared to the original, but also compared to other covers just before and after theirs.
The original is an instrumental, slow-paced, and used as a recurring theme in a Broadway show: original. The instrumental by Acker Bilk was out before the Beatles recording and is a lovely, fully formed song. The version I'm most familiar with, and didn't realize for a long time was the same as the Beatles song(!), is the Herb Alpert version, which came out slightly after theirs. I think his upbeat, Latin-jazzy version is a lot of fun, and overall I prefer the instrumentals of this one. Inserting the words in has always sounded a little "Bill Murray sings Star Wars" to me. However, you can do a decent vocal version of this; you just need to be Billy Dee Williams.
When I listen to these various versions, I feel like (though don't know) the Beatles were trying to most closely resemble the Acker Bilk version, which is languid and haunting. To me, though, their attempt at haunting comes out as jarring instead. Maybe their vocals just hadn't developed enough at this point, but it sounds like kids trying to do what they think "serious grown-ups" think would sound nefarious and spooky. It's really only the double-tracking that gives it any depth at all. I don't think they were ready for the complexity of this song, and I think it fails. This one is an insta-skip for me.
Mr. krista: "Yeah I don't like it."
brutalI asked Mr. krista about this song again. Updated remarks: "Of course I hate this. It's like a poisonous slug. It's prima facie terrible. It sucks the moisture out of infants' eyes and leaves them dead."
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I am adamantly against this. Takes all the suspense out of it.2. As you make each pick, can you add it to the title of the thread?
Hadn't thought of this. Yeah, with it in the title, why click? We want more people in here discussing these songs. Sorry, tim, I'm changing back to the regular title (also means I don't have to do so much updating).I am adamantly against this. Takes all the suspense out of it.
Agreed. I like Piggies and Honey Pie.P.S. I don’t skip anything on the White Album. It must be ingested whole.
Yeah, man. That’s how numbers and rankings work.Gr00vus said:@krista4 - you'll signal us at the point you actually like the songs you're posting, right?
retort pictured in live action.Yeah, man. That’s how numbers and rankings work.Gr00vus said:@krista4 - you'll signal us at the point you actually like the songs you're posting, right?