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Indefinite Las Vegas Raiders thread (3 Viewers)

When the writing was on the wall mid October, I decided to put the Raiders on the back burner and take back my Sundays. Today, I decided against my better judgment to watch the game. A few observations after not watching for a few weeks….
Minshew is just a terrible QB, period.
5 takeaways and a -15 TO margin all season is atrocious and the main reason this team sucks.
I don’t recognize anyone in the secondary besides Moerihg and Jones. Injuries certainly have taken their toll.
Maxx is still Maxx but he’s not enough to over compensate for the pathetic offense.
Who’s this Tyree Wilson guy making plays???
Overall this team is still hard to watch and disappointing, depressing and a laughing stock of the NFL. Nothing left to do but to lose out and fire AP and shoot for a hard reset (again) this time with a rookie QB in their sights. But I’m sure they’ll Raider that up too.
Bad QB play and a bad OC is had to overcome. The defense has been killed with injuries this year. The good news is it looks like we are in good position to get a QB (before today's games we were 3rd overall not sure if anything changes that) and we have a young team. Bring in a good OC and QB and we can win some games.
They were fifth behind Tennessee and Cleveland coming into this week. They are third now behind.the Jaguars and Giants ATM.

Gonna take a lot of lack of effort to pass those two.
Jags going to move on from Lawrence? I think the Giants is the only concern unless they trade away to move down... which is possible but if we like someone, I can see us making that move up.
I don't think the Jaguars are going to move on from Lawrence. But I do worry that they're going to trade the pic to someone more motivated than the Raiders to go get a quarterback. I just want the Raiders to have the pick of the litter, be it Ward or Sanders or that kid from Alabama. Whatever. Even if they make the wrong decision I just don't want them to end up with the consolation prize QB.
 
Jags going to move on from Lawrence?
Can't imagine it but holy carp would I be all over giving up our 1st rounder for him.
I don't think the Jaguars are going to move on from Lawrence. But I do worry that they're going to trade the pic to someone more motivated than the Raiders to go get a quarterback. I just want the Raiders to have the pick of the litter, be it Ward or Sanders or that kid from Alabama. Whatever. Even if they make the wrong decision I just don't want them to end up with the consolation prize QB.
Taylor-made for us to pay a cheap move up. Give a 3rd, Jags stay 1.03 and get their same guy as we and NYG take QB's. Free 3rd to draft Travis Hunter is a pretty good day at the office.
 
Jags going to move on from Lawrence?
Can't imagine it but holy carp would I be all over giving up our 1st rounder for him.
I don't think the Jaguars are going to move on from Lawrence. But I do worry that they're going to trade the pic to someone more motivated than the Raiders to go get a quarterback. I just want the Raiders to have the pick of the litter, be it Ward or Sanders or that kid from Alabama. Whatever. Even if they make the wrong decision I just don't want them to end up with the consolation prize QB.
Taylor-made for us to pay a cheap move up. Give a 3rd, Jags stay 1.03 and get their same guy as we and NYG take QB's. Free 3rd to draft Travis Hunter is a pretty good day at the office.
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.

We can only hope the Jaguars love Travis Hunter so much they stand pat or only move back to 1.3
 
Jags going to move on from Lawrence?
Can't imagine it but holy carp would I be all over giving up our 1st rounder for him.
I don't think the Jaguars are going to move on from Lawrence. But I do worry that they're going to trade the pic to someone more motivated than the Raiders to go get a quarterback. I just want the Raiders to have the pick of the litter, be it Ward or Sanders or that kid from Alabama. Whatever. Even if they make the wrong decision I just don't want them to end up with the consolation prize QB.
Taylor-made for us to pay a cheap move up. Give a 3rd, Jags stay 1.03 and get their same guy as we and NYG take QB's. Free 3rd to draft Travis Hunter is a pretty good day at the office.
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.

We can only hope the Jaguars love Travis Hunter so much they stand pat or only move back to 1.3
If they do love Hunter (I think anyone should love him... the kid is a stud) then moving to 3 works well for them.... it protects from losing out on him (I can't see Hunter falling lower than 5) still getting their guy with extremely low risk of not getting him and they pick up some more draft capital. I mean, if Giants and Raiders are 2 and 3, it is almost a sure lock that both are going for QB's unless they just really do not like what is coming out of college.
 
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.
Depends on the Jags' draft board. Those teams in the 10-20 also mean a much later pick, there is no Travis Hunter or Kelvin Banks in that part of the draft.

Besides we play them in a few week anyway, so if we lay down properly it becomes moot.
 
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.
Depends on the Jags' draft board. Those teams in the 10-20 also mean a much later pick, there is no Travis Hunter or Kelvin Banks in that part of the draft.

Besides we play them in a few week anyway, so if we lay down properly it becomes moot.
Does AOC come back? Because Ridder looked like a hot mess.
 
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.
Depends on the Jags' draft board. Those teams in the 10-20 also mean a much later pick, there is no Travis Hunter or Kelvin Banks in that part of the draft.

Besides we play them in a few week anyway, so if we lay down properly it becomes moot.
Does AOC come back? Because Ridder looked like a hot mess.
Does it matter? Neither is a long term starter*


*To be fair, the same was sad about, arguably the best Raiders QB of all time, Rich Gannon. But, I don't want to wait until [checks abacus]...[verifies abacus calculations with sundial readings]...their 12th season (13th year) for that to come to fruition.
 
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.
Depends on the Jags' draft board. Those teams in the 10-20 also mean a much later pick, there is no Travis Hunter or Kelvin Banks in that part of the draft.

Besides we play them in a few week anyway, so if we lay down properly it becomes moot.
Does AOC come back? Because Ridder looked like a hot mess.
Does it matter? Neither is a long term starter*


*To be fair, the same was sad about, arguably the best Raiders QB of all time, Rich Gannon. But, I don't want to wait until [checks abacus]...[verifies abacus calculations with sundial readings]...their 12th season (13th year) for that to come to fruition.
It matters on influencing whether we win or not.
 
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.
Depends on the Jags' draft board. Those teams in the 10-20 also mean a much later pick, there is no Travis Hunter or Kelvin Banks in that part of the draft.

Besides we play them in a few week anyway, so if we lay down properly it becomes moot.
Does AOC come back? Because Ridder looked like a hot mess.
Does it matter? Neither is a long term starter*


*To be fair, the same was sad about, arguably the best Raiders QB of all time, Rich Gannon. But, I don't want to wait until [checks abacus]...[verifies abacus calculations with sundial readings]...their 12th season (13th year) for that to come to fruition.
It matters on influencing whether we win or not.
Barely. All qbs on the roster suck.
 
I think it will take more than a third to move up. Some team drafting in the 10-20 range would likely offer multiple firsts.
Depends on the Jags' draft board. Those teams in the 10-20 also mean a much later pick, there is no Travis Hunter or Kelvin Banks in that part of the draft.

Besides we play them in a few week anyway, so if we lay down properly it becomes moot.
Does AOC come back? Because Ridder looked like a hot mess.
Does it matter? Neither is a long term starter*


*To be fair, the same was sad about, arguably the best Raiders QB of all time, Rich Gannon. But, I don't want to wait until [checks abacus]...[verifies abacus calculations with sundial readings]...their 12th season (13th year) for that to come to fruition.
It matters on influencing whether we win or not.
Does it? I honestly can't say if I believe AOC or Ridder provide a better chance at winning a game.
 
Crosby "I don't play for a better pick"
Of course and I expect as much from players and coaches.

But don't suggest that Maxx isn't aware of how important a true franchise QB would be to this teams ability to contend for more than late season pyrrhic victories year-after-year.

I'm guessing he's more tired of it than we are.
 
Remaining schedules for three 2-win teams...

Jax - all winnable games after Houston, including v. Vegas - Jax likely won't be at #1 on Jan 6.
Sun, Dec 1 vs Houston
Sun, Dec 8 @ Tennessee
Sun, Dec 15 vs NY Jets
Sun, Dec 22 @ Las Vegas
Sun, Dec 29 vs Tennessee
Sun, Jan 5 @ Indianapolis

NYG - Dal, NO, Ind winnable
Thu, Nov 28 @ Dallas
Sun, Dec 8 vs New Orleans
Sun, Dec 15 vs Baltimore
Sun, Dec 22 @ Atlanta
Sun, Dec 29 vs Indianapolis
Sun, Jan 5 @ Philadelphia

LV - Jax, NO winnable
Fri, Nov 29 @ Kansas City
Sun, Dec 8 @ Tampa Bay
Mon, Dec 16 vs Atlanta
Sun, Dec 22 vs Jacksonville
Sun, Dec 29 @ New Orleans
Sun, Jan 5 vs LA Chargers

Plus we have nine other 3-4-win teams still in the mix with six weeks remaining... Decent chance several of those nine trailers makes a late push into the top spots - NYJ, DAL, in particular, seem primed to roll over and not win another game.

1 Jacksonville 2-9
2 NY Giants 2-9
3 Las Vegas 2-9
4 New England 3-9
5 Carolina 3-8
6 Tennessee 3-8
7 NY Jets 3-8
8 Cleveland 3-8
9 New Orleans 4-7
10 Cincinnati 4-7
11 Dallas 4-7
12 Chicago 4-7
 
NYJ, DAL, in particular, seem primed to roll over and not win another game.
Could have said that about CAR and TEN but both went all out and TEN pulled a massive upset and CAR nearly trumped them until the refs got the call from Roger. DAL themselves ripped one out. The players don't quit, they all have something to play for. Free agent contracts, more reps to compete next year, squeeze out one more $5M year before retirement.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who grew up in California when the Raiders used to play there.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who grew up in California when the Raiders used to play there.
And that means what exactly beyond being one of 23+million people?
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who grew up in California when the Raiders used to play there.
And that means what exactly beyond being one of 23+million people?
Show me the history of first round picks the Raiders have spent on a QB.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who grew up in California when the Raiders used to play there.
And that means what exactly beyond being one of 23+million people?
Show me the history of first round picks the Raiders have spent on a QB.
And who are you that I should bother to do anything you ask?

Get the hint. Go away. We only like serious people in here. If you are going to be serious and make serious points that are worthwhile but I don't like, fine, I can live with that. Ask @DA RAIDERS but trolls are not something I have any patience for.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who grew up in California when the Raiders used to play there.
And that means what exactly beyond being one of 23+million people?
Show me the history of first round picks the Raiders have spent on a QB.
And who are you that I should bother to do anything you ask?

Get the hint. Go away. We only like serious people in here. If you are going to be serious and make serious points that are worthwhile but I don't like, fine, I can live with that. Ask @DA RAIDERS but trolls are not something I have any patience for.
No one is a "troll" here lol, I have been posting here since almost this site existed.

The Raiders franchise has been a fraud for 30 seasons now. More than that. They haven't won a Super Bowl since 1983. They haven't had a franchise quarterback since the 70's. The worst thing about the Raiders is the cult of their fanbase, and the ownership who exploits y'all. There is no such thing as "Raider football". It doesn't exist. Not when you haven't had a franchise QB since the 70's
 
He’s just feeling sad and bitter cuz the window is already closing on his team.
Even the worst 49er team this season is still 5-6 with a QB picked from the 7th round in the draft.

You guys went "UNCLE RICO" who just went on IR and wanted that guy because you think that's what a "Raider QB" looks like.

Yeah, he looks like a Raider QB. And played like one too.
 
I’m hopeful to see what O’Connell can do this weekend. I want to at least know if we have a solid young backup QB for the next couple of years.
 
Blah blah blah
I'm just sayin' Raider fans need to give up anything Davis and force Mark Davis to sell the team and go to whatever camp where a a 69 years old man with the mind and haircut of a Chris Farley at a Yankee game with his father who still shouts in an owners booth "OH YEAH, OH YEAH BATTER. SWING!"
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
I'm sorry that you're hurting. If you need to talk, please DM me. I'm here for you.


BTW, I am 100% sincere with that. I'm here if you need to talk.
 
I’m hopeful to see what O’Connell can do this weekend. I want to at least know if we have a solid young backup QB for the next couple of years.
I couldn't care less. He's not the future of this franchise. I don't want him to fail, I sincerely don't because that just uncool. But I also don't want him to give the franchise even a glimmer of hope that he may be the guy going forward. He's not.

The Raiders need a hard reset at QB.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
I'm sorry that you're hurting. If you need to talk, please DM me. I'm here for you.


BTW, I am 100% sincere with that. I'm here if you need to talk.
What do I have to consult with a Raider fan for? If you're either a Gen X or Millennial Raider fan, I mean all you have now is Howie Long, and he's only a few years after Terry Braddshaw, and ten years before Jimmy Johnson.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
I'm sorry that you're hurting. If you need to talk, please DM me. I'm here for you.


BTW, I am 100% sincere with that. I'm here if you need to talk.
What do I have to consult with a Raider fan for? If you're either a Gen X or Millennial Raider fan, I mean all you have now is Howie Long, and he's only a few years after Terry Braddshaw, and ten years before Jimmy Johnson.
I understand, you're angry and you're looking for an outlet. Please keep running with this string, I think if you keep pursuing it we might have a breakthrough.

You do you, I'm here for you, brother.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
I'm sorry that you're hurting. If you need to talk, please DM me. I'm here for you.


BTW, I am 100% sincere with that. I'm here if you need to talk.
What do I have to consult with a Raider fan for? If you're either a Gen X or Millennial Raider fan, I mean all you have now is Howie Long, and he's only a few years after Terry Braddshaw, and ten years before Jimmy Johnson.
I understand, you're angry and you're looking for an outlet. Please keep running with this string, I think if you keep pursuing it we might have a breakthrough.

You do you, I'm here for you, brother.
I mean one has to wonder why a Gardner Minshew would only have people say "YEAH, GREAT SIGNING HE LOOKS LIKE A RAIDER" only because the only team that would make him a starting QB by choice is the Raiders lol. Raider fans already gave him a nickname lol in "Rico".

Raider fans are like Deadheads. Always going back then when the Grateful Dead played shows at the Oakland Coliseum in the 70's lol. Hell, they still wear both the tie dye and those old jerseys they bought back the today. Well, their kids do now at least.

2 win team so far in 2024. One of the worst teams in the past 30 seasons of Raider football. All because Maxx Crosby picked his head coach lol.
 
I’m hopeful to see what O’Connell can do this weekend. I want to at least know if we have a solid young backup QB for the next couple of years.
I couldn't care less. He's not the future of this franchise. I don't want him to fail, I sincerely don't because that just uncool. But I also don't want him to give the franchise even a glimmer of hope that he may be the guy going forward. He's not.

The Raiders need a hard reset at QB.
Agreed but….we need a solid backup and if O'Connell can fit that bill, I’m all for it. Seems like a good kid, accurate, heady, better than freakin Minshew as our backup (which isn’t saying much).

But, yeah. Absolutely a rookie QB with our 1st rounder and go all in.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
I'm sorry that you're hurting. If you need to talk, please DM me. I'm here for you.


BTW, I am 100% sincere with that. I'm here if you need to talk.
What do I have to consult with a Raider fan for? If you're either a Gen X or Millennial Raider fan, I mean all you have now is Howie Long, and he's only a few years after Terry Braddshaw, and ten years before Jimmy Johnson.
I understand, you're angry and you're looking for an outlet. Please keep running with this string, I think if you keep pursuing it we might have a breakthrough.

You do you, I'm here for you, brother.
I mean one has to wonder why a Gardner Minshew would only have people say "YEAH, GREAT SIGNING HE LOOKS LIKE A RAIDER" only because the only team that would make him a starting QB by choice is the Raiders lol. Raider fans already gave him a nickname lol in "Rico".

Raider fans are like Deadheads. Always going back then when the Grateful Dead played shows at the Oakland Coliseum in the 70's lol. Hell, they still wear both the tie dye and those old jerseys they bought back the today. Well, their kids do now at least.

2 win team so far in 2024. One of the worst teams in the past 30 seasons of Raider football. All because Maxx Crosby picked his head coach lol.
It's okay, brother. I understand you're going through a lot. Please keep going, I'm here for you.

ETA: well, I'll be here for you tomorrow. Right now I'm going to bed. But, please don't despair, there are people out there who care about you. Never forget that.
 
The first sign your season was into the tank before the season started is because Raider fans thought Gardner Minshew was the perfect Raider QB because he looked like Kenny Stabler: was that he was Gardner Minshew. Whose only resemblance to Stabler was all about follicles. The next sign next season will be in the tank is that they will still have Antonio Pierce for HC because he grew up a Raider fan.
Who are you?
Someone who is better to be pitied than censored.
The Raider brand is old. Stale. Washed. You put them in an new crib in Vegas, they are still the same stale old bad choices Raiders. A 2 win team that has no QB. Who still misses David Carr.

But yet that franchise bets on two to three season on a one year interim linebacker assistant cum HC who will do more damage if they still keep him. Your franchise is the definition of insanity. Because it's "The Raider Way".
Derek. Right Chad?
 
No one is a "troll" here lol, I have been posting here since almost this site existed.

In this thread, you are a troll. If you really don't recognize that, as you represent here, then you really aren't very smart. And I say this as a Chargers fan, not a Raiders fan.

You add nothing to the thread but negativity. You really should spend your posting time elsewhere.
 
Well.... with a depleted roster we took them to the end and should have won. Kind of best of both worlds.... the team is fighting and getting better and we keep a record towards a higher pick.

Now if the refs continue to enforce false starts, illegal formation and off sides against the Chefs all of which they tend to ignore.... this Chef team will not get the SB again.
 
Well.... with a depleted roster we took them to the end and should have won. Kind of best of both worlds.... the team is fighting and getting better and we keep a record towards a higher pick.

Now if the refs continue to enforce false starts, illegal formation and off sides against the Chefs all of which they tend to ignore.... this Chef team will not get the SB again.
The Chiefs are getting lucky wins but are not winning a game in the playoffs. SB winning teams crush teams like the Raiders and Panthers.
 
Well.... with a depleted roster we took them to the end and should have won. Kind of best of both worlds.... the team is fighting and getting better and we keep a record towards a higher pick.

Now if the refs continue to enforce false starts, illegal formation and off sides against the Chefs all of which they tend to ignore.... this Chef team will not get the SB again.
The Chiefs are getting lucky wins but are not winning a game in the playoffs. SB winning teams crush teams like the Raiders and Panthers.
Raiders beat KC last year in KC so...
 

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