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Seeing as every deal in the NFL is now a player and a #7 for a #6 the Pats are now set-up for 4 deals...
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Seeing as every deal in the NFL is now a player and a #7 for a #6 the Pats are now set-up for 4 deals...
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Here is what I found about the $...that is the best part of this deal.
Dugger entered this season with a $15.27 million cap hit. That number was set to grow to $17 million in 2026 and $18 million in 2027. According to overthecap.com, the Patriots will save over $12 million next season and over $13 million in 2027 by trading Dugger.
Patriots trade former second rounder, starting safety to Pittsburgh
The Kyle Dugger era is over. Multiple sources told MassLive the Patriots are trading the former starter to Pittsburghwww.masslive.com
Yeah I’m surprised they got anything
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
google language....
The Steelers will take on Dugger's remaining contract, but as part of the trade, the Patriots reportedly "ate" some of the existing salary to help facilitate the deal. The deal is made more palatable for the Steelers because none of Dugger's remaining base salary is guaranteed after the 2025 season, giving them an easy out if things don't work out.
upon me asking google said further....
The New England Patriots reportedly are paying most of the remaining $5.4 million on Kyle Dugger's base salary for 2025 to facilitate his trade to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
which conflicts with pats pulpit....
However, the belief is that New England will retain parts of his current salary on its books as a deal-sweetener for the Steelers. How much exactly is not known at the moment, but we do know that Dugger’s remaining 2025 base salary stands at $4.3 million.
of course, big picture is 2026/2027 savings and getting out from under.
The Steelers will take on Dugger's remaining contract, but as part of the trade, the Patriots reportedly "ate" some of the existing salary to help facilitate the deal. The deal is made more palatable for the Steelers because none of Dugger's remaining base salary is guaranteed after the 2025 season, giving them an easy out if things don't work out.
upon me asking google said further....
The New England Patriots reportedly are paying most of the remaining $5.4 million on Kyle Dugger's base salary for 2025 to facilitate his trade to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
which conflicts with pats pulpit....
However, the belief is that New England will retain parts of his current salary on its books as a deal-sweetener for the Steelers. How much exactly is not known at the moment, but we do know that Dugger’s remaining 2025 base salary stands at $4.3 million.
of course, big picture is 2026/2027 savings and getting out from under.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
The New England Patriots plan to sign safety John Saunders Jr. off the Miami Dolphins practice squad, according to ESPN's Mike Reiss, to fill the void left at the position by their trade of Kyle Dugger.
Boston
Footballguy
Vrabel definitely prefers a certain style of Safety...and it is certainly not the Peppers/Dugger type.
fatness
Footballguy
Florio: Eagles could be shopping A.J. Brown | NFL News | FantasyAlarm.com
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SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
definitely maybe. can contribute quickly on special teams, carries and passing downs.
frees up vrable to grab all the shiny trade goodies on the defensive side of the ball.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Florio: Eagles could be shopping A.J. Brown | NFL News | FantasyAlarm.com
so basically the rumors about the brown / hurtz relationship having reached butthurt status is correct. maybe trade brown to miami for an injuried hill so both couples can avoid therapy.
Boston
Footballguy
7-2 after a nail-biter yesterday...odd game in that they were in total control until Maye's strip-sack near the end of the half...after that it felt like they might give this one away but they stay composed, got lucky with a missed PAT and came away with a big win even without Maye at his best...makes going to Tampa Bay a little easier...would have hated to go into that one with a bad loss...next up is the trade deadline...Breer is reporting they are playing the long-game (which I agree with) and aren't looking to make any "wow" moves unless the price is really right or it is a player that can help them for multiple years...so, what could they use:
*Another pass rusher...if Landry or Chiasson got hurt they would be in big trouble...even with them they need some help here...when you get into these close games with quality QBs you can't make it easy for them...Penix was giving them issues yesterday and he is nowhere near the player Allen, Lamar or Hebert are...this is one area I would be really surprised if they don't add something.
*Secondary...Gonzo is a stud but he is not the most durable player so far...wouldn't hurt to add more depth at CB...Safety could use another body unless they are high on the Saunders kid they just picked-up.
*LB...Ellis left the game yesterday...this is not a deep group so if his injury is long-term they could use some help here.
*RB...a lot depends on Stevenson's health and whether his injury is just short-term...Henderson is improving, looks like they like/trust Jennings and Johnson is now in the fold...I don't have a strong feeling on this one...with 4 6th round picks they can easily do something here but outside of depth I'm not sure how much it will help.
*WR...the caveat is this depends on Boutte's injury...if he is healthy they are fine for this year, especially since Pop seems to be carving out a role...if there are concerns about Boutte that makes things interesting...do they trust Williams and/or Chism to be able to contribute...Williams has been getting on the field but not really getting involved and so far Chism seems to be a complete afterthought...hopefully Boutte is fine and they can ride this unit out this year than go after a bigger fish this offseason.
*TE...Henry and Hooper have been a good 1-2 punch...the issue is there is nothing behind them.
My guess is they use a few of those 6th round picks on a couple of those player/#7 for a #6 deals and add some depth on the defensive side of the ball but don't do anything considered big...all signs point to Vrabel having a long-term plan and he is not going change gears unless it is something that just makes too much sense.
*Another pass rusher...if Landry or Chiasson got hurt they would be in big trouble...even with them they need some help here...when you get into these close games with quality QBs you can't make it easy for them...Penix was giving them issues yesterday and he is nowhere near the player Allen, Lamar or Hebert are...this is one area I would be really surprised if they don't add something.
*Secondary...Gonzo is a stud but he is not the most durable player so far...wouldn't hurt to add more depth at CB...Safety could use another body unless they are high on the Saunders kid they just picked-up.
*LB...Ellis left the game yesterday...this is not a deep group so if his injury is long-term they could use some help here.
*RB...a lot depends on Stevenson's health and whether his injury is just short-term...Henderson is improving, looks like they like/trust Jennings and Johnson is now in the fold...I don't have a strong feeling on this one...with 4 6th round picks they can easily do something here but outside of depth I'm not sure how much it will help.
*WR...the caveat is this depends on Boutte's injury...if he is healthy they are fine for this year, especially since Pop seems to be carving out a role...if there are concerns about Boutte that makes things interesting...do they trust Williams and/or Chism to be able to contribute...Williams has been getting on the field but not really getting involved and so far Chism seems to be a complete afterthought...hopefully Boutte is fine and they can ride this unit out this year than go after a bigger fish this offseason.
*TE...Henry and Hooper have been a good 1-2 punch...the issue is there is nothing behind them.
My guess is they use a few of those 6th round picks on a couple of those player/#7 for a #6 deals and add some depth on the defensive side of the ball but don't do anything considered big...all signs point to Vrabel having a long-term plan and he is not going change gears unless it is something that just makes too much sense.