Indy/St. Louis Thread (1 Viewer)

[Jackal King]

Would anyone comment on Blitz pickup for both RBs?

Maybe we'll see that in the next game.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Anyone see 1500 yards, 10 TDS EACH for Harrison and Wayne this year?

The Indy run game is a freaking joke.

 

[rascal]

Did the Rams run this much in last years preseason? Man 200 yards...if they run this much S Jackson is going to go off.

 

[Raider Nation]

Can Bulger take these hits all year? Seems like he's getting hit almost every time he drops back. I think he can be a top 3 fantasy QB with Linehan's guidance, but he's got to be able to stay healthy and I don't like what I see from that O-Line in pass protection right now.

I love his accuracy, but someone else in my league can draft him. He's made of glass.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Anyone see 1500 yards, 10 TDS EACH for Harrison and Wayne this year?The Indy run game is a freaking joke.

Dude. One quarter of a preseason game.The FIRST preseason game.Jeezus.

 

[Payne]

I wish they would bench Bruce until the regular season.

I have been targeting him.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

"Gashin" Jackson is moving up draft boards

Seriously, don't do it. He looked this good last preseason too. He's the king of preseason. Keep him where he is at in your rankings.

Not sure what this means. Sure he looked good last preseason, and also the first 8 games of the regular season when he was a top 5 RB. Not sure what you're alluding to.

Too bad the season's not 8 games long.

Never said it was, but that guy made it out to sound like Jackson was Jamal Robertson who has always looked good in the preseason and never put up a good regular season game. With Jackson we've seen it translate to the regular season (so the "he looked good lats preseason" thing is kind of moot) and given that he's only been the starter for one season on a team that absolutely fell apart to injury (QB, QB2, coach, WR2) a huge half season is a good start.

 

[stedman]

Rhodes and Sorgi did a great job at selling the play fake. It froze the defense. I was shocked the defense was able to get to Sorgi after holding on to the ball for 4-5 seconds.

I am more concerned with ability of Rhodes to sell a play like that. Manning probably would have gotten rid of the ball but he still would have been knocked on his ####.

 

[Bri]

My thoughts on this game-

(MLBrandow)I didn't pay attention to it everytime but when I did Addai seemed to forget about blitz pickup. Sorgi got smacked around and it wasn't pretty. I didn't think Addai looked good running either. Very unimpressed with him and I kept waiting for a glimmer of hope.

Sorgi was horrible. Aikman's pointing out how he hasn't played much and.....that was beyond making excuses for IMO.

Peyton was just perfect, his command of the huddle and how easily the O moved he looked like the best QB in the league, that he is.

Aikman brought up how Peyton changes the plays 8000 times at the LOS and how that'll be tough for a rook. That's a great point I haven't heard discussed here. Rhodes has a gigantic edge over him in that regard.

I found it very interesting that Linehan didn't see all that many Ram runs up the middle and wanted to increase that this year(according to announcers). Jackson and Fisher had a handful of 10 yard runs right up the gut. Maybe Dungy's boys were too quick to blitz and fell right into this but nonetheless that line made a giant hole with authority.

I felt like Utecht was the 1st string TE but they were on+off so fast I'm not certain. Clark dropped a couple right in his lap that were inexcusable.

I wasn't impressed or not impressed with either D because aside from Peyton the Os look unorganized and rusty. I would think that makes playing D easy.

I was so surprised by Sorgi's play I wonder if they'll sign a vet QB.

 

[nygiants56]

Can Bulger take these hits all year? Seems like he's getting hit almost every time he drops back. I think he can be a top 3 fantasy QB with Linehan's guidance, but he's got to be able to stay healthy and I don't like what I see from that O-Line in pass protection right now.

Gus Frerotte just became the Sleeper QB of the Year..Bulger is a potato chip..taking that many shots with that porous O-line isn't a good start..granted, it IS PRESEASON. the first game nonetheless, so I'm not going to go OTT on it..but it is something to watch closely..

 

[nygiants56]

I'm not a Jackson lover...but he looked awfully nice on a couple draws.

Did you see that huge hit he laid on Matt Giordono? He made Matt Giordono look like some kind of scrub.

did you see his dancing and prancing at the line before he took off to run the ball?!?!THAT is Jackson's weakness...if that was LJ last night, he would have taken it to the endzone, he doesn't hesitate and dance around..LT2 would have scored a TD on that run, even SA would have broken that for a long gain if not a TD..

I don't know that Jackson doesn't have an identity crisis, i.e., he looks as if he wants to be like S. Alexander at times - running hard and knocking people around-, but at other times, he looks like he's trying to be LT2- dancing and prancing behind the line instead of just hitting the hole and running for daylight-

oh by the way, it was against indy's scrub defense , which was missing key players due to injuries..

lets see him dance like that in front of the Bears D..

he did look good, I'll give him that much..but I'm not moving him up on my fantasy board..

Linehan showed last night he's still in love with the RBBC approach..

Moe W. is going to score about 10 TDs this year, and Tony Fisher is going to see alot of action, too..

maybe Sjax gets 1300 yards, but he'll probably won't score more than 6 tds..

 

[grouse]

I think the real question regarding Steven Jackson isn't so much about Jackson himself, but that of Tiki Barber. Most people will have LJ, LT, Shaun and Clinton ahead of SJax in their rankings, and there really is no reason to move Jackson ahead of those guys. BUT... as the Jackson hype continues to ramp up, it's Tiki Barber and his 31 year old body that figures to enter into the drafting equation for potential SJax draft takers. At what point does SJax's upside and youth overtake Barber's proven success in the rankings? In my mind, that's the most material question for fantasy redrafters here.

 

[Gopher State]

My thoughts on the game:

Yes let the Jackson hype start, he looked good. However Moe Williams also looked great and will steal td's at the goal line like he did in MN.

Manning looks like a mid-FF first round pick.

This might be the year of Reggie Wayne being the #1 WR in Indy

Indy will pass more then they run this year?

The running game in Indy is a work in progress, I personally like Rhodes as he has been in the system longer, but the rookie is better then he looked and could be a force in the second half of the season.

Bulger had better have good medical insurance, if he continues to get hit like he did, he not going to make 16 games.

Ike Bruce = steal of FF drafts this year

Both D's looked like pre-season D's

 

[ebcpastor2004]

My thoughts on this game-

(MLBrandow)I didn't pay attention to it everytime but when I did Addai seemed to forget about blitz pickup. Sorgi got smacked around and it wasn't pretty. I didn't think Addai looked good running either. Very unimpressed with him and I kept waiting for a glimmer of hope.

Sorgi was horrible. Aikman's pointing out how he hasn't played much and.....that was beyond making excuses for IMO.

Peyton was just perfect, his command of the huddle and how easily the O moved he looked like the best QB in the league, that he is.

Aikman brought up how Peyton changes the plays 8000 times at the LOS and how that'll be tough for a rook. That's a great point I haven't heard discussed here. Rhodes has a gigantic edge over him in that regard.

I found it very interesting that Linehan didn't see all that many Ram runs up the middle and wanted to increase that this year(according to announcers). Jackson and Fisher had a handful of 10 yard runs right up the gut. Maybe Dungy's boys were too quick to blitz and fell right into this but nonetheless that line made a giant hole with authority.

I felt like Utecht was the 1st string TE but they were on+off so fast I'm not certain. Clark dropped a couple right in his lap that were inexcusable.

I wasn't impressed or not impressed with either D because aside from Peyton the Os look unorganized and rusty. I would think that makes playing D easy.

I was so surprised by Sorgi's play I wonder if they'll sign a vet QB.

Actually I did allude to this in a couple of posts already. # 53- "Anybody paying attention to Aikman pointing out twice that the COlts are using a silent count? What does this mean for Manning's mumbo-jumbo audibles at the line?"

# 80- "Just interviewed Peyton and he said the Silent Count was in preparation for the first game in NYC, i.e. hostile environment. I really find this interesting.

If the Colts implement a silent count, how does Peyton audible at the LOS? Answer- he doesn't. Maybe it's because the RB's can't pick it up like Edge did. I don't know. And maybe it's something they're working on with them. Either way, it's obvious the Colts will throw much more than they'll run. Check out this stat-

# 77- "FOX showed a graphic before the game showing how the Colts have upped the run plays in the last 4 years. Still under 50% though. Is it possible they throw it 60% or more?"

If so, how does this affect their ability to win the division. I think the Jags step up and win it this year. The run game will suffer, both from a lack of production and because of fewer opportunities; this means throwing more. But if they throw it more and the RB's can't pick up the blitz (which Edge was great at) the passing game will suffer a bit. And if the RB's can't pick up the blitz, it really hinders Peyton's ability to audible at the LOS. I love the Colts and I am a huge Manning fan (Archie, Peyton, Eli, & Cooper- even Olivia) but I'm afraid the Colts will take a step back this year and that they will miss Edge more than they thought.

 

[Todem]

Can Bulger take these hits all year? Seems like he's getting hit almost every time he drops back. I think he can be a top 3 fantasy QB with Linehan's guidance, but he's got to be able to stay healthy and I don't like what I see from that O-Line in pass protection right now.

Gus Frerotte just became the Sleeper QB of the Year..Bulger is a potato chip..taking that many shots with that porous O-line isn't a good start..granted, it IS PRESEASON. the first game nonetheless, so I'm not going to go OTT on it..but it is something to watch closely..

Ferotte is a piece of glass as well. He will get hurt quick as well.Guy can't hit the side of a barn 3 times in a row if his life depended on it.

 

[Todem]

My thoughts on the game:

Yes let the Jackson hype start, he looked good. However Moe Williams also looked great and will steal td's at the goal line like he did in MN.

Manning looks like a mid-FF first round pick.

This might be the year of Reggie Wayne being the #1 WR in IndyIndy will pass more then they run this year?

The running game in Indy is a work in progress, I personally like Rhodes as he has been in the system longer, but the rookie is better then he looked and could be a force in the second half of the season.

Bulger had better have good medical insurance, if he continues to get hit like he did, he not going to make 16 games.

Ike Bruce = steal of FF drafts this year

Both D's looked like pre-season D's

ahhh No. Marvin is the man until he reitres.Wayne will be better than last year though.

Marvin 85 for 1300 and 17 TD's

Wayne 80 for 1200 and 10 TD's

So 1A and 1B...no way Wayne takes over this year. But they are very close.

Marvin has no reason to be in pre-season games. He was targeted once last night and was wide open. Peyton threw off his back foot and skipped the ball to him.

 

[BigRed]

I was so surprised by Sorgi's play I wonder if they'll sign a vet QB.

I wasn't and no they won't, partly because they already signed King (who sucks about as much) and partly because Polian is a moron. Course there isn't much out there to sign now anyway...I wonder what Steve DeBerg is up to...PS as much as the RBs sucked, the OL wasn't dazzling anyone either from what I saw, even first team. And this is the friggin Rams for crying out loud. Yeah it's only 1 game blah blah but wasn't exactly inspiring.

 

[Todem]

On Rhode's 2 carries with the first team offense he hit the hole for 4 and 5 yards. What's wrong with that?

 

[paz1]

My thoughts on this game-

(MLBrandow)I didn't pay attention to it everytime but when I did Addai seemed to forget about blitz pickup. Sorgi got smacked around and it wasn't pretty. I didn't think Addai looked good running either. Very unimpressed with him and I kept waiting for a glimmer of hope.

Sorgi was horrible. Aikman's pointing out how he hasn't played much and.....that was beyond making excuses for IMO.

Peyton was just perfect, his command of the huddle and how easily the O moved he looked like the best QB in the league, that he is.

Aikman brought up how Peyton changes the plays 8000 times at the LOS and how that'll be tough for a rook. That's a great point I haven't heard discussed here. Rhodes has a gigantic edge over him in that regard.

I found it very interesting that Linehan didn't see all that many Ram runs up the middle and wanted to increase that this year(according to announcers). Jackson and Fisher had a handful of 10 yard runs right up the gut. Maybe Dungy's boys were too quick to blitz and fell right into this but nonetheless that line made a giant hole with authority.

I felt like Utecht was the 1st string TE but they were on+off so fast I'm not certain. Clark dropped a couple right in his lap that were inexcusable.

I wasn't impressed or not impressed with either D because aside from Peyton the Os look unorganized and rusty. I would think that makes playing D easy.

I was so surprised by Sorgi's play I wonder if they'll sign a vet QB.

I was thinking the same thing, anyone have any more insight on Ben?

 

[sholditch]

Addai was looking like JJ Arrington out there tonight. Can he be labeled a bust yet?

Glad to see someone else notice this (though I was a little drunk watching the game and don't clearly remember much past the 2nd quarter, think I fell asleep) but what I did see was not impressive in any way, while Rhodes looked efficient against the 1st team ST Louis D.

 

[Alluro]

Has Linehan confirmed that Moe Williams will get the goal line carries or is this idle speculation on the part of the board? Being a Steven Jackson owner, that would suck major donkey balls if Moe is vulturing. Heck, if that's the case, i would be happier if Faulk returned.

 

[sholditch]

I think it's just speculation.

 

[grouse]

Has Linehan confirmed that Moe Williams will get the goal line carries or is this idle speculation on the part of the board?

It's one thing to put Moe in for goal-line duty when the alternative is Michael Bennett. But there is absolutely no logic to pulling a 23-year old monster like SJax in favour of an oft-injured 32-year old soon-to-be retiree. And please, don't anybody tell me he'll do it to 'save' wear and tear on SJax. Bollocks! If anything, Moe gets his carries late in games they've already won, or lost handily. But I doubt you'll see SJax on the sidelines when the Rams are in the redzone, unless he's a) hurt b) sucking oxygen.

 

[Foosball God]

My thoughts on the game:

Yes let the Jackson hype start, he looked good. However Moe Williams also looked great and will steal td's at the goal line like he did in MN.

Manning looks like a mid-FF first round pick.

This might be the year of Reggie Wayne being the #1 WR in IndyIndy will pass more then they run this year?

The running game in Indy is a work in progress, I personally like Rhodes as he has been in the system longer, but the rookie is better then he looked and could be a force in the second half of the season.

Bulger had better have good medical insurance, if he continues to get hit like he did, he not going to make 16 games.

Ike Bruce = steal of FF drafts this year

Both D's looked like pre-season D's

ahhh No. Marvin is the man until he reitres.Wayne will be better than last year though.

Marvin 85 for 1300 and 17 TD's

Wayne 80 for 1200 and 10 TD's

So 1A and 1B...no way Wayne takes over this year. But they are very close.

Marvin has no reason to be in pre-season games. He was targeted once last night and was wide open. Peyton threw off his back foot and skipped the ball to him.

Having two WRs on the same team each going for more than 1200 yards seems highly unlikely.

 

[Todem]

My thoughts on the game:

Yes let the Jackson hype start, he looked good. However Moe Williams also looked great and will steal td's at the goal line like he did in MN.

Manning looks like a mid-FF first round pick.

This might be the year of Reggie Wayne being the #1 WR in IndyIndy will pass more then they run this year?

The running game in Indy is a work in progress, I personally like Rhodes as he has been in the system longer, but the rookie is better then he looked and could be a force in the second half of the season.

Bulger had better have good medical insurance, if he continues to get hit like he did, he not going to make 16 games.

Ike Bruce = steal of FF drafts this year

Both D's looked like pre-season D's

ahhh No. Marvin is the man until he reitres.Wayne will be better than last year though.

Marvin 85 for 1300 and 17 TD's

Wayne 80 for 1200 and 10 TD's

So 1A and 1B...no way Wayne takes over this year. But they are very close.

Marvin has no reason to be in pre-season games. He was targeted once last night and was wide open. Peyton threw off his back foot and skipped the ball to him.

Having two WRs on the same team each going for more than 1200 yards seems highly unlikely.

Really?Does Boldin and Fitzgerald ring a bell?

The Colts will be chucking it all year.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Has Linehan confirmed that Moe Williams will get the goal line carries or is this idle speculation on the part of the board?

It's one thing to put Moe in for goal-line duty when the alternative is Michael Bennett. But there is absolutely no logic to pulling a 23-year old monster like SJax in favour of an oft-injured 32-year old soon-to-be retiree. And please, don't anybody tell me he'll do it to 'save' wear and tear on SJax. Bollocks! If anything, Moe gets his carries late in games they've already won, or lost handily. But I doubt you'll see SJax on the sidelines when the Rams are in the redzone, unless he's a) hurt b) sucking oxygen.

 

[Foosball God]

My thoughts on the game:

Yes let the Jackson hype start, he looked good. However Moe Williams also looked great and will steal td's at the goal line like he did in MN.

Manning looks like a mid-FF first round pick.

This might be the year of Reggie Wayne being the #1 WR in IndyIndy will pass more then they run this year?

The running game in Indy is a work in progress, I personally like Rhodes as he has been in the system longer, but the rookie is better then he looked and could be a force in the second half of the season.

Bulger had better have good medical insurance, if he continues to get hit like he did, he not going to make 16 games.

Ike Bruce = steal of FF drafts this year

Both D's looked like pre-season D's

ahhh No. Marvin is the man until he reitres.Wayne will be better than last year though.

Marvin 85 for 1300 and 17 TD's

Wayne 80 for 1200 and 10 TD's

So 1A and 1B...no way Wayne takes over this year. But they are very close.

Marvin has no reason to be in pre-season games. He was targeted once last night and was wide open. Peyton threw off his back foot and skipped the ball to him.

Having two WRs on the same team each going for more than 1200 yards seems highly unlikely.

Really?Does Boldin and Fitzgerald ring a bell?

The Colts will be chucking it all year.

Your example does not buck the "highly unlikely" tag.