Same. Dulcich looked pretty solid I thought, he's just been hurt a lot.
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Infinite New York football Giants (2025 same as it ever was) (2 Viewers)
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Should New York Giants seek to reunite with safety Jabrill Peppers?
Should New York Giants seek to reunite with safety Jabrill Peppers?
Should the New York Giants consider reuniting with safety Jabrill Peppers following his release from the New England Patriots?
Its a yes for me ... Position of need, veteran presence, Jersey guy, former Gint, min salary
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Yenrub
Footballguy
Jaxson Dart #2 QB on the depth chart ahead of week 1
https://www.bigblueview.com/new-yor...-giants-depth-chart-jaxson-dart-listed-as-qb2
https://www.bigblueview.com/new-yor...-giants-depth-chart-jaxson-dart-listed-as-qb2
Got to feel for Jameis. I genuinely Brice he could play for a few teams out there…Jets, Saints.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Ok, preseason was a total mirage. Nothing changed from last year. Can’t block, Wilson has zero time. Defense can’t get off field on 3rd and long.
Oh, everyone’s favorite scapegoat Danny Dimes is having himself a game…
Sigh.
Oh, everyone’s favorite scapegoat Danny Dimes is having himself a game…
Sigh.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Kept the streak alive, 3rd straight year without a TD in the opening game.
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IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
I don’t want to see Dart. Leave Wilson in there until the line breaks him. Then put in Winston. I don’t want to see dart broken before he learns. Then spend all the draft picks on OLine men.
I’m just disgusted that the giants just can’t fix the OLine issues.
I’m just disgusted that the giants just can’t fix the OLine issues.
Not having Andrew Thomas is huge. He makes the oline average just by being part of it.
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Giants are not a playoff team. The D isn't good or disciplined enough and the lack of talent depth at key positions will hurt them. Making Dart the QB does nothing to address those deficiencies.
I really hate the whole "bench Russell Wilson after 1 game" narrative. The whole point of Russ was to stabilize the position with a vet who the rook could learn from the first year/8 games or so. Replacing him after 1 game makes me think people think he's holding the Giants back from a playoff run. He's not.
I really hate the whole "bench Russell Wilson after 1 game" narrative. The whole point of Russ was to stabilize the position with a vet who the rook could learn from the first year/8 games or so. Replacing him after 1 game makes me think people think he's holding the Giants back from a playoff run. He's not.
I'm done with this narrative as well. Thomas is never healthy and aside from 1 season has never been a top 10 OT ... He is way overrated and always Injured!
How can this be plan A when you dont even know when he will be able to play !!!! Disgraceful !!!
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And what is this **** with Evan Neal !!! How much worse could he possible be than what we saw on the field yesterday
This Front Office is horrible at evaluating Oline Talent !! Why are we to believe that it's Evan Neal and not them???
Other ****ing observations from this disaster
Tyrone Tracy - What the Hell do people see in this guy ??? He's not even worth having on an NFL roster never mind lead back
Same goes for "The Athletic Freak" Theo Johnson ! I see a Big lumbering spaz ... I'll take Dulchich over him
This Front Office is horrible at evaluating Oline Talent !! Why are we to believe that it's Evan Neal and not them???
Other ****ing observations from this disaster
Tyrone Tracy - What the Hell do people see in this guy ??? He's not even worth having on an NFL roster never mind lead back
Same goes for "The Athletic Freak" Theo Johnson ! I see a Big lumbering spaz ... I'll take Dulchich over him
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Thought I didn't hear Banks name much yesterday. I was right, 11 snaps on defense.
Who from the 2022 and 2023 drafts is getting a 2nd contract here?
Who from the 2022 and 2023 drafts is getting a 2nd contract here?
Stop it
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Did anyone actually think they were?
You could have him ... I want a RB that can run people over and fall forward, push the pile and not fumble the damn ball.
This guy is nothing special at all ... not worth a roster spot is extreme ... he's a fine #3 RB
Meanwhile Flott was getting tortured! Similar to the Evan Neal situation
If the guys you replace them with are going to suck as bad or worse ... whats the point?
Go with the 1st rd pick with potential!!!!!
After watching Russ play yesterday ... I wouldnt mind seeing what Jameis could do.
Russ was about as terrible as the rest of the team
I want fast action here ... Someone has to be fired immediately if the outcome this weekend is similiar.
Start with Bowen on Defesnive side and Schmidtz, Runyan and that big stiff Theo,
I that doesnt work Daboll, and after the season Schoen should be gone
Dont wait till the entire season is another useless disaster... heads need to roll asap !!!!
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
I do chuckle that the thread is still titled the 2024 Giants thread. Yesterday sure did seem like a continuation of last year's debacle.
What do you mean? The O'line didnt build itself
Someone spent a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, (2) 5ths, and overpaid 3 x Free Agents to fill 4 Spots on the Oline (Thomas was already there)
Did the Oline allow WAS to run for 7 yard per attempt?
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So are saying the O-line is not an issue?
Seems like you think the Oline is the only issue...
They entire team is an issue starting with the GM
The Defense let up 7 yds per carry ... if you take away the kneel downs and the lone tackle for loss it's closer to 8 yds a carry
Here's what I think of the Giants Oline
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The Frankman
Footballguy
Please rename the thread
welp we're boned.
Yep McFadden has been the Giants best MLB since last year
Let's face the truth here.
Big Blue is in for another 3-4 win season.
There's not a quarterback on the roster that's going to thrive behind their offensive line.
If Thomas comes back healthy they go from horrible to just below average.
Play Wilson and Winston. Let Dart watch,listen and learn.
Putting him in behind this line might set him back,I don't think it would hurt his confidence,he has plenty of that to spare.
Next year draft offensive linemen early and often
Then let Dark take over in 2026
Daboll and Schoen coming back is another discussion
I'd rather not see a complete change,that only sets Dark back a year
Suck it up for another year my fellow die hards
And keep your buddy Jack Daniels close at hand
Big Blue is in for another 3-4 win season.
There's not a quarterback on the roster that's going to thrive behind their offensive line.
If Thomas comes back healthy they go from horrible to just below average.
Play Wilson and Winston. Let Dart watch,listen and learn.
Putting him in behind this line might set him back,I don't think it would hurt his confidence,he has plenty of that to spare.
Next year draft offensive linemen early and often
Then let Dark take over in 2026
Daboll and Schoen coming back is another discussion
I'd rather not see a complete change,that only sets Dark back a year
Suck it up for another year my fellow die hards
And keep your buddy Jack Daniels close at hand
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I hope this desperate regime does not throw Dart in too early to try to save their jobs, but that looks to be the trajectory. I felt bad for Russ last week as the line did not give him any chance for success.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Well, that was better. Mbow acquitted himself well. I don't want to see Hudson on the field again. Not really upset. I wanted "watchable" and "competitive" as a first step. They were that this week.
Wilson had a bone headed throw. I'll be watching to see who screams that it was "typical Russ" like they used to with Eli. That throw and not getting points after the turnover were the game.
Small steps.
Wilson had a bone headed throw. I'll be watching to see who screams that it was "typical Russ" like they used to with Eli. That throw and not getting points after the turnover were the game.
Small steps.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Tough loss for you guys. Exciting that the oline protected, another high pick and next year make the leap after a high pick.
Gatorade
Footballguy
Not much to protect from. Dallas has NO pass rush at all.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Oddly they generated one of the better pressure rates last week.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Compared to last year, there were hints of a pocket today. I'll take it. Pretty sure Mbow gave up the pressure that forced the blind throw from Wilson at the end of game. But I wasn't really interested in watching that particular replay... 
But all in all, it was an improvement. Again, small steps are fine, as long as they are all forward.
But all in all, it was an improvement. Again, small steps are fine, as long as they are all forward.Officiating sucked ... Some of the calls against the Giants were petty ... 14 /160 yds is insane ... 3-5 more penalties were declined or negated
And FG kicking is ruining football. When 65 yarders are becoming chip shots it's time to change some rules.
Start at 35 yd line gain 20 yards and kick a chippy ...defenses have very little chance against that
James Hudson is a psychopath and its to bad because otherwise he was pretty good
And FG kicking is ruining football. When 65 yarders are becoming chip shots it's time to change some rules.
Start at 35 yd line gain 20 yards and kick a chippy ...defenses have very little chance against that
James Hudson is a psychopath and its to bad because otherwise he was pretty good
I don't think it was a bone headed throw. I think Greg Olsen explained it very well. Russ was under pressure,he needed to get a throw off and knew Nabers was in the area.
You could point to two dozen plays that decided the game. The defense was gassed at the end. They had a shot to win,several really.
At least they were fun to watch for a change. No moral victories. I just asked for being competative this year. They delivered that Sunday.
But it sure would be nice to win a game before October
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
I hear ya!
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Gotta say, that Daniel Jones was clearly the reason why the Giants weren’t going anywhere. He is totally stinking up the joint as a Colt. /s
He goes by Indy now. Full name is Indiana Jones.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Very funny Dr. Jones.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Honestly, the OLine has been a strength for at least a decade now.
(Listening to the call… almost an interception. “Almost” is the best description for this team. Almost an interception, fumble recovery, sack, first down. Almost. Sigh.)
(Listening to the call… almost an interception. “Almost” is the best description for this team. Almost an interception, fumble recovery, sack, first down. Almost. Sigh.)
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Huge game in two weeks. Lose to the Saints and not sure where a Win is coming this year. Maybe NE in December? Maybe?
It's now confirmed that the problem is Schoen and Daboll. And somehow Schoen is a massive downgrade from Gettleman if that is even possible.
Gettleman picks, Barkley, Mckinney, Love and now Jones have had much better success since escaping this circus.
The best remaining players on the team are Thomas and Dexter, two Gettleman holdovers ... and Thibideux was the result of a Gettleman trade
Meanwhile we have failed 1s rd picks Banks (trade Up) and Evan Neal, Failed 2nd rd Center, 3rd (trade up) Hyatt
We are being force fed Theo (The Stiff) Johnson and for sometime another huge bust Joshua Ezeudu because they refuse to admit they screwed up
Gettleman picks, Barkley, Mckinney, Love and now Jones have had much better success since escaping this circus.
The best remaining players on the team are Thomas and Dexter, two Gettleman holdovers ... and Thibideux was the result of a Gettleman trade
Meanwhile we have failed 1s rd picks Banks (trade Up) and Evan Neal, Failed 2nd rd Center, 3rd (trade up) Hyatt
We are being force fed Theo (The Stiff) Johnson and for sometime another huge bust Joshua Ezeudu because they refuse to admit they screwed up
Giants were out coached by KC. Spags was taking away Malik Nabers and Robinson and Giants coaches couldn't figure out a way to get them the ball. The offense lacks imagination and is very predictable. The defense has talent but for some reason struggles to get off the field on third down. Wilson tore up Dallas,so did Williams yesterday,says more about an awful Dallas defense than the Giants offense. This crap show won't end until Schoen,Daboll and the entire caoching staff are gone. Coaching matters. See Daniel Jones.
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