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Involved In A Car Accident...I Can't Win! (1 Viewer)

Craig...I can't speculate what's wrong with this guy or what it will take to learn his lesson. Perhaps his spouse freaks out on him. Maybe reality sets in after the initial shock that he could of died or killed someone. Down the road if he has insurance and his premium skyrockets maybe it hits him then.

I am sitting in rush hour traffic, traffic was backed up for miles. Traffic was getting worse because we were trapped in the left lane and I was getting his info. The police response would of taken forever.

Police would of been mad they were being called to a non injury accident.

I am suppose to put out hundreds of drivers so I can watch a cop issue him a ticket for no proof of insurance and maybe texting. I am suppose to ruin some guys life over a cracked bumper?

I don't get it, and this is why society is going down the tubes. I was wronged and will be inconvenienced, therefore I should take this guy for everything he has to "teach him a lesson."
wow, i need to read this again, I am similar in some ways and find every possible excuse to not deal with something.

You made up this whole scenario in your mind as to why to not call the cops and file an accident report.

He is an immigrant, it will ruin his life, cops are busy, i'm not worth causing traffic

I mean I have done similar to just not bother getting ins companies involved.

Just know your wife is keeping score of the times you wuss out on something for any of the hundreds of excuses you make up in your head to not take action on something.

Your wife is basically looking at this as you value this guys situation over your families.

Meanwhile you are sitting there thinking you're just being the nice guy.
I have insurance and filed a claim, how am I not taking care of my family?
your wifes mind works that way.

She says call cops and file a report.

You say no, he will get in trouble, cops have better things to do, we will cause traffic.

you wife thinks great everything else is more important than your family

 
Craig...I can't speculate what's wrong with this guy or what it will take to learn his lesson. Perhaps his spouse freaks out on him. Maybe reality sets in after the initial shock that he could of died or killed someone. Down the road if he has insurance and his premium skyrockets maybe it hits him then.

I am sitting in rush hour traffic, traffic was backed up for miles. Traffic was getting worse because we were trapped in the left lane and I was getting his info. The police response would of taken forever.

Police would of been mad they were being called to a non injury accident.

I am suppose to put out hundreds of drivers so I can watch a cop issue him a ticket for no proof of insurance and maybe texting. I am suppose to ruin some guys life over a cracked bumper?

I don't get it, and this is why society is going down the tubes. I was wronged and will be inconvenienced, therefore I should take this guy for everything he has to "teach him a lesson."
wow, i need to read this again, I am similar in some ways and find every possible excuse to not deal with something.

You made up this whole scenario in your mind as to why to not call the cops and file an accident report.

He is an immigrant, it will ruin his life, cops are busy, i'm not worth causing traffic

I mean I have done similar to just not bother getting ins companies involved.

Just know your wife is keeping score of the times you wuss out on something for any of the hundreds of excuses you make up in your head to not take action on something.

Your wife is basically looking at this as you value this guys situation over your families.

Meanwhile you are sitting there thinking you're just being the nice guy.
I have insurance and filed a claim, how am I not taking care of my family?
your wifes mind works that way.

She says call cops and file a report.

You say no, he will get in trouble, cops have better things to do, we will cause traffic.

you wife thinks great everything else is more important than your family
Interesting...I will honestly ponder that.

 
Everybody has their opinion. The guy is obviously an immigrant. He works for a pizza place making minimum wage. I guarantee he is living paycheck to paycheck. I have no interest in having this guy rack up hundreds of dollars in fines, maybe losing his license, then losing his job if he is a pizza driver. I don't see why people have an issue with me having kindness to someone that is already struggling?

As far as fake plates and what not....I got the VIN number off of his vehicle and his driver's license info.

I filed a claim with my insurance, they will do the work.
I delivered pizza. They would fire him if they knew he had expired insurance. You do realize he is putting that business in danger? Everyone who works there could lose their job if they got sued. You didn't do other drivers a favor. You didn't do the business any favors. You only enabled him to continue to be illegal.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.

 
Many people post to get their feelings, thoughts and actions validated. The overwhelming majority pointed out that I was clearly in the wrong. One post in general really made me reconsider everything.

So I woke up this morning to play catch up. Went and got an estimate on the vehicle and it was 1,392.47 this is a partial estimate because there could be damage underneath. I went and filed a accident report with the DMV. Then I contacted the police to file a report and I am waiting for a call back.

I need to start being proactive rather than re-active.

 
Many people post to get their feelings, thoughts and actions validated. The overwhelming majority pointed out that I was clearly in the wrong. One post in general really made me reconsider everything.

So I woke up this morning to play catch up. Went and got an estimate on the vehicle and it was 1,392.47 this is a partial estimate because there could be damage underneath. I went and filed a accident report with the DMV. Then I contacted the police to file a report and I am waiting for a call back.

I need to start being proactive rather than re-active.
What happened to the $120? :lmao:

Anyway, I hope everything works out for you and you dont have to learn a tough life lesson. Always calls the cops.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.

 
Many people post to get their feelings, thoughts and actions validated. The overwhelming majority pointed out that I was clearly in the wrong. One post in general really made me reconsider everything.

So I woke up this morning to play catch up. Went and got an estimate on the vehicle and it was 1,392.47 this is a partial estimate because there could be damage underneath. I went and filed a accident report with the DMV. Then I contacted the police to file a report and I am waiting for a call back.

I need to start being proactive rather than re-active.
I am another person who tries to be nice and let things go when I can. But you're doing the right thing here.

 
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Many people post to get their feelings, thoughts and actions validated. The overwhelming majority pointed out that I was clearly in the wrong. One post in general really made me reconsider everything.

So I woke up this morning to play catch up. Went and got an estimate on the vehicle and it was 1,392.47 this is a partial estimate because there could be damage underneath. I went and filed a accident report with the DMV. Then I contacted the police to file a report and I am waiting for a call back.

I need to start being proactive rather than re-active.
What happened to the $120? :lmao:

Anyway, I hope everything works out for you and you dont have to learn a tough life lesson. Always calls the cops.
I was off a bit. :lol:

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?
That's why you should get the contact info of any witnesses.
 
ugh sucks.

Hope it works out. Worst case, just take this experience as a lesson learned.

People who tend to be mr nice often go to extreme...if you're not being nice and putting yourself behind other then you're an a hole.

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call them Friday. :fistpump:

 
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Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
yea......that sounds wrong

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
You were calling to get the police report number more than anything. Lot of states don't dispatch.

Did you tell him guy was uninsured? That is a crime in this state and most other ones. Around here they will dispatch for that.

 
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Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
You were calling to get the police report number more than anything. Lot of states don't dispatch.
He wouldn't take the report over the phone due to lack of serious injuries.

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
You were calling to get the police report number more than anything. Lot of states don't dispatch.
He wouldn't take the report over the phone due to lack of serious injuries.
So they don't dispatch and they don't give reports? Too busy shooting unarmed citizens?

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
You were calling to get the police report number more than anything. Lot of states don't dispatch.
He wouldn't take the report over the phone due to lack of serious injuries.
So they don't dispatch and they don't give reports? Too busy shooting unarmed citizens?
Lol, I'm not getting into all that.

From my experience with the police in Oregon and Indiana the last few years, they really don't seem to do anything unless they absolutely have to.

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
yea......that sounds wrong
Nope, hes right

http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/article/33788

Still doesnt mean it would have been a "waste of time" to call. Its not like he knew that at the time and wouldve taken a whole 2 minutes for the PD to tell him the same thing at time of the accident.

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
You were calling to get the police report number more than anything. Lot of states don't dispatch.
He wouldn't take the report over the phone due to lack of serious injuries.
So they don't dispatch and they don't give reports? Too busy shooting unarmed citizens?
Lol, I'm not getting into all that.

From my experience with the police in Oregon and Indiana the last few years, they really don't seem to do anything unless they absolutely have to.
Yeah I was just being snarky. But I am surprised. Around here they give you a report number at least.

 
I think it's been pointed out, but just not hammered home, but you should feel stupid, not angry in seeing him texting and driving right after your incident. You are part of the problem, and maybe not as much as him, but close.

If I could have gotten the woman in the minivan in trouble for texting and driving when she cut me off twice in a 2 mile span just before lunch, I would have called every police agency in town just to make sure it got handled.

I really don't buy the idea they don't send police to cover auto accidents unless there are injuries. First of all, they would be dispatched if you didn't move your cars and had to wait on a tow, thus causing a traffic situation which could become dangerous without direction. I know it wasn't necessary here, but that's just one example of your exact wording of their dispatch proceedure being incorrect.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?
I think pictures would help your case. If the other party is going to disupute fault, I'm not sure how much the police showing up that day is going to matter. Most likely, you have to move the vehicles in the meantime anyway, so there isn't going to be a lot of evidence for the police to analyze, other than the parties statements.

 
I think it's been pointed out, but just not hammered home, but you should feel stupid, not angry in seeing him texting and driving right after your incident. You are part of the problem, and maybe not as much as him, but close.

If I could have gotten the woman in the minivan in trouble for texting and driving when she cut me off twice in a 2 mile span just before lunch, I would have called every police agency in town just to make sure it got handled.

I really don't buy the idea they don't send police to cover auto accidents unless there are injuries. First of all, they would be dispatched if you didn't move your cars and had to wait on a tow, thus causing a traffic situation which could become dangerous without direction. I know it wasn't necessary here, but that's just one example of your exact wording of their dispatch proceedure being incorrect.
I feel more naïve than dumb. Except for way underestimating the amount it costs to fix vehicle damage(I am a complete moron.)

Someone provided a link a few posts up, police would not of shown up, and a officer advised me of such on the phone.

You should of called the police, cutting you off several times is careless/reckless driving depending which state you live in and she would of received a citation. Based on your opinion if this lady cuts someone off or hits somebody that's on you. You could of helped change her behavior and choose not to.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?
I think pictures would help your case. If the other party is going to disupute fault, I'm not sure how much the police showing up that day is going to matter. Most likely, you have to move the vehicles in the meantime anyway, so there isn't going to be a lot of evidence for the police to analyze, other than the parties statements.
I've only been in one accident with another vehicle. It was at a 4 way stop. But the intersecting roads were two lanes and each had a turn lane along with a grass median. Lots of cars there. I pulled to a stop and cross traffic went. When it was my turn, I went across the intersection and when I was almost through, a car in the furthest lane shot out to go. Caught me right in the right front of my car. There was a truck in the lane to her left, so she couldn't see. So apparently, she just gunned it thinking it was OK to go. She was an idiot. I called the cops and he came out and interviewed both of us. Before he left, I saw him write her a ticket for failure to yield or something like that.

When I got a hold of her insurance company, they were total a holes. Kept telling me I needed to provide them with my insurance. I told them no. They shouldn't need it because it wasn't my fault. They had a manager call me back and tell me that I shouldn't assume it was her fault and they planned to get it listed as both parties at fault. I told them that the cop gave her a ticket for failure to yield. He told me he doubted that, but he'd check and get back to me. A couple of hours later an adjuster called and said they needed to meet up with me so they could write me a check.

Oddly enough, last year, my GF was driving down her parent's street and there was a young girl trying to parallel park. My GF came to a stop, about 2-3 car lengths behind the parking spot to let the girl park. After two failed attempts to back it in, I guess she decided she'd have more luck pulling in. Apparently, she never even saw my GF sitting there and backed up 100 yards into my GF's car. Even as she laid on the horn, she kept backing up, never looking in her rearview mirror.

The girl got out and apologized over and over. They exchanged information and when my GF called her insurance that night, her company said they thought it was my GF who was at fault. After 6 months of battling, the two insurance companies decided that it was 50/50 at fault. My GF had to pay for her own damage even though she wasn't even moving. I told her lesson learned and always call the police to file a report.

Without that report, I just don't understand how the insurance company doesn't screw you over. :shrug:

 
I think it's been pointed out, but just not hammered home, but you should feel stupid, not angry in seeing him texting and driving right after your incident. You are part of the problem, and maybe not as much as him, but close.

If I could have gotten the woman in the minivan in trouble for texting and driving when she cut me off twice in a 2 mile span just before lunch, I would have called every police agency in town just to make sure it got handled.

I really don't buy the idea they don't send police to cover auto accidents unless there are injuries. First of all, they would be dispatched if you didn't move your cars and had to wait on a tow, thus causing a traffic situation which could become dangerous without direction. I know it wasn't necessary here, but that's just one example of your exact wording of their dispatch proceedure being incorrect.
I feel more naïve than dumb. Except for way underestimating the amount it costs to fix vehicle damage(I am a complete moron.)

Someone provided a link a few posts up, police would not of shown up, and a officer advised me of such on the phone.

You should of called the police, cutting you off several times is careless/reckless driving depending which state you live in and she would of received a citation. Based on your opinion if this lady cuts someone off or hits somebody that's on you. You could of helped change her behavior and choose not to.
I may have missed it but did you say the driver didn't have insurance? Because I would almost guarantee the cops would have come out for that.

 
I think it's been pointed out, but just not hammered home, but you should feel stupid, not angry in seeing him texting and driving right after your incident. You are part of the problem, and maybe not as much as him, but close.

If I could have gotten the woman in the minivan in trouble for texting and driving when she cut me off twice in a 2 mile span just before lunch, I would have called every police agency in town just to make sure it got handled.

I really don't buy the idea they don't send police to cover auto accidents unless there are injuries. First of all, they would be dispatched if you didn't move your cars and had to wait on a tow, thus causing a traffic situation which could become dangerous without direction. I know it wasn't necessary here, but that's just one example of your exact wording of their dispatch proceedure being incorrect.
And the very first thing they would do is tell you two dopes to move your cars to the side and stope impeding traffic.

I can't stand morons ( like apparently most of you in this thread) who hold up traffic for your fender benders. Move your #### to the side of the road, get the drivers info and call your insurance company.

Obviously if there is an injury or a car that won't start is different but for fender benders MOOOOOOVE #####, GET OUT MY WAAASY!!!

 
I think it's been pointed out, but just not hammered home, but you should feel stupid, not angry in seeing him texting and driving right after your incident. You are part of the problem, and maybe not as much as him, but close.

If I could have gotten the woman in the minivan in trouble for texting and driving when she cut me off twice in a 2 mile span just before lunch, I would have called every police agency in town just to make sure it got handled.

I really don't buy the idea they don't send police to cover auto accidents unless there are injuries. First of all, they would be dispatched if you didn't move your cars and had to wait on a tow, thus causing a traffic situation which could become dangerous without direction. I know it wasn't necessary here, but that's just one example of your exact wording of their dispatch proceedure being incorrect.
And the very first thing they would do is tell you two dopes to move your cars to the side and stope impeding traffic.

I can't stand morons ( like apparently most of you in this thread) who hold up traffic for your fender benders. Move your #### to the side of the road, get the drivers info and call your insurance company.

Obviously if there is an injury or a car that won't start is different but for fender benders MOOOOOOVE #####, GET OUT MY WAAASY!!!
I think we may have found our MoP replacement. Not that we need one, mind you.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?
I think pictures would help your case. If the other party is going to disupute fault, I'm not sure how much the police showing up that day is going to matter. Most likely, you have to move the vehicles in the meantime anyway, so there isn't going to be a lot of evidence for the police to analyze, other than the parties statements.
I've only been in one accident with another vehicle. It was at a 4 way stop. But the intersecting roads were two lanes and each had a turn lane along with a grass median. Lots of cars there. I pulled to a stop and cross traffic went. When it was my turn, I went across the intersection and when I was almost through, a car in the furthest lane shot out to go. Caught me right in the right front of my car. There was a truck in the lane to her left, so she couldn't see. So apparently, she just gunned it thinking it was OK to go. She was an idiot. I called the cops and he came out and interviewed both of us. Before he left, I saw him write her a ticket for failure to yield or something like that.

When I got a hold of her insurance company, they were total a holes. Kept telling me I needed to provide them with my insurance. I told them no. They shouldn't need it because it wasn't my fault. They had a manager call me back and tell me that I shouldn't assume it was her fault and they planned to get it listed as both parties at fault. I told them that the cop gave her a ticket for failure to yield. He told me he doubted that, but he'd check and get back to me. A couple of hours later an adjuster called and said they needed to meet up with me so they could write me a check.

Oddly enough, last year, my GF was driving down her parent's street and there was a young girl trying to parallel park. My GF came to a stop, about 2-3 car lengths behind the parking spot to let the girl park. After two failed attempts to back it in, I guess she decided she'd have more luck pulling in. Apparently, she never even saw my GF sitting there and backed up 100 yards into my GF's car. Even as she laid on the horn, she kept backing up, never looking in her rearview mirror.

The girl got out and apologized over and over. They exchanged information and when my GF called her insurance that night, her company said they thought it was my GF who was at fault. After 6 months of battling, the two insurance companies decided that it was 50/50 at fault. My GF had to pay for her own damage even though she wasn't even moving. I told her lesson learned and always call the police to file a report.

Without that report, I just don't understand how the insurance company doesn't screw you over. :shrug:
I'm sure experiences with insurance companies always vary person to person and agency to agency. I've had State Farm my entire aduly life. I've only been in a couple of small fender benders, though my wife has been in a couple of big ones. My MO has always been to only talk to State Farm. Part of the premium I pay is to have them represent me in cases like this. They do the legwork. The collect the money. I'm left out of it.

The only time I really got screwed, having the police there wouldn't have made a difference. My wife was in an accident with someone who didn't have insurance. We couldn't collect from him, and neither could State Farm. We had to pay our deductible for having an accident with an "unisured/under insured motorist" and it came out of the check they wrote us for the minivan. However, that was largely compensated by the fact that they gave us almost $3k more than we could have gotten had we tried to sell the van pre accident.

 
I think it's been pointed out, but just not hammered home, but you should feel stupid, not angry in seeing him texting and driving right after your incident. You are part of the problem, and maybe not as much as him, but close.

If I could have gotten the woman in the minivan in trouble for texting and driving when she cut me off twice in a 2 mile span just before lunch, I would have called every police agency in town just to make sure it got handled.

I really don't buy the idea they don't send police to cover auto accidents unless there are injuries. First of all, they would be dispatched if you didn't move your cars and had to wait on a tow, thus causing a traffic situation which could become dangerous without direction. I know it wasn't necessary here, but that's just one example of your exact wording of their dispatch proceedure being incorrect.
And the very first thing they would do is tell you two dopes to move your cars to the side and stope impeding traffic. I can't stand morons ( like apparently most of you in this thread) who hold up traffic for your fender benders. Move your #### to the side of the road, get the drivers info and call your insurance company.

Obviously if there is an injury or a car that won't start is different but for fender benders MOOOOOOVE #####, GET OUT MY WAAASY!!!
I think we may have found our MoP replacement. Not that we need one, mind you.
No, I've just been driving in traffic for too long. The above is half hyperbole ( and music lyrics) and half of what I'm calmly thinking. When I was younger I used to get all road raged out. Over the years I've actually been able to turn all the traffic / commute into peaceful time. Ivevgot a half dozen podcasts to catch up on and iheart radio keeps it interesting when I'm tired of all the talking.
 
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First this is not a big deal and here's why

First you have car insurance so the damages are covered subject to your policy deductible

Next, most insurance companies classify a collision loss with no police report as a chargeable accident, no big deal, if you can afford a new car you can afford to pay a little more for insurance

Finally, but not calling the police, someone got a HOT pizza, hey it could of been a FBG, so thank you

We need more people like you in American, who are not about me, but lets help the little guy out

 
First this is not a big deal and here's why

First you have car insurance so the damages are covered subject to your policy deductible

Next, most insurance companies classify a collision loss with no police report as a chargeable accident, no big deal, if you can afford a new car you can afford to pay a little more for insurance

Finally, but not calling the police, someone got a HOT pizza, hey it could of been a FBG, so thank you

We need more people like you in American, who are not about me, but lets help the little guy out
he was rear ended. Who cares about his deductible? He should pay $0
 
My first reaction is like most everyone in here in that I think it was a mistake not to immediately call the police and report it. That probably still holds since he was uninsured and I think the police would have probably come out for that despite what they said about injuries and such.

But some of you in here need to read the thread. Multiple people have now chimed in ripping the OP for not calling and acting as if it will make a difference for him financially when it seems pretty clear from subsequent posts by the OP and another poster that the police would not have come out to write a report anyway. Or at least they wouldn't if the expired insurance wasn't a potential issue. Can we at least pretend we read the thread and not just react to the first post at this point?

 
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First this is not a big deal and here's why

First you have car insurance so the damages are covered subject to your policy deductible

Next, most insurance companies classify a collision loss with no police report as a chargeable accident, no big deal, if you can afford a new car you can afford to pay a little more for insurance

Finally, but not calling the police, someone got a HOT pizza, hey it could of been a FBG, so thank you

We need more people like you in American, who are not about me, but lets help the little guy out
he was rear ended. Who cares about his deductible? He should pay $0
 
Wow, pretty terrible.

I almost got into a head on collision with my new car yesterday as well, these things are like magnets. Stupid neighborhood next to ours had their roads divided by a median and this was too complicated for these people I guess. I was thinking to myself how much I hate the design as I had to squeeze by a utility truck - next thing you know I see these idiots turn into my lane coming right at me, and I was totally visible to them so I don't even understand how they made such a dumb mistake. Luckily they thought more quickly than they did when they initiated the turn and jumped onto the curb and avoided me - I can't imagine their car liked that too much. As I watch them in my rear view they finally figured out their stupidity a block down and slammed on the brakes - thinking these people were on some serious drugs or something.

If they talked in broken English I would have called the cops, and then called INS for good measure.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
It's that way in MD. Police won't issue a citation for a lesser accident they didn't see happen. And they'd rather not take time away from other work to look at bent bumpers.

 
Police Update....

Spoke with an officer with Portland PD, he advised me that they are not dispatched to car accidents where there are not trauma injuries. He stated if I had called they would of not even responded.

Apologized and told me to take him to small claims court.

I knew it was a waste of time to call. :fistpump:
yea......that sounds wrong
It's like that in California as well.

 
Everybody has their opinion. The guy is obviously an immigrant. He works for a pizza place making minimum wage. I guarantee he is living paycheck to paycheck. I have no interest in having this guy rack up hundreds of dollars in fines, maybe losing his license, then losing his job if he is a pizza driver. I don't see why people have an issue with me having kindness to someone that is already struggling?

As far as fake plates and what not....I got the VIN number off of his vehicle and his driver's license info.

I filed a claim with my insurance, they will do the work.
I delivered pizza. They would fire him if they knew he had expired insurance. You do realize he is putting that business in danger? Everyone who works there could lose their job if they got sued. You didn't do other drivers a favor. You didn't do the business any favors. You only enabled him to continue to be illegal.
Could you expound on this? I would think that pizza companies have liability insurance for all of their drivers and that there's a policy for checking the licenses of drivers.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?
Sure, but couldn't the other guy do the same when the police arrive?

 
Everybody has their opinion. The guy is obviously an immigrant. He works for a pizza place making minimum wage. I guarantee he is living paycheck to paycheck. I have no interest in having this guy rack up hundreds of dollars in fines, maybe losing his license, then losing his job if he is a pizza driver. I don't see why people have an issue with me having kindness to someone that is already struggling?

As far as fake plates and what not....I got the VIN number off of his vehicle and his driver's license info.

I filed a claim with my insurance, they will do the work.
I delivered pizza. They would fire him if they knew he had expired insurance. You do realize he is putting that business in danger? Everyone who works there could lose their job if they got sued. You didn't do other drivers a favor. You didn't do the business any favors. You only enabled him to continue to be illegal.
Could you expound on this? I would think that pizza companies have liability insurance for all of their drivers and that there's a policy for checking the licenses of drivers.
Seems to be working pretty well. I am sure they have business insurance but they don't cover every driver with liability insurance. Now the fact that he was on the job and was uninsured leaves a problem for that business. If it is a small independent a suit over an uninsured driver hitting someone could certainly be a major financial and business hit. It could very well end a location. A franchisee may be a little better protected but not much. Believe me when I say they live in fear of this kind of thing happening and the suit because of it.

 
It's kind of amazing to me that a group of so many intelligent guys don't understand how important it is to go through the simple process of having a police report filed after an accident involving vehicle damage.
I guess it's regional. For a fender bender the cops here would be more annoyed then helpful . Here they don't assign fault unless it's a pileup and there needs to be an investigation.
That's not been true anywhere I've lived. Odd. Insurance companies are built around the concept of fault for incidents.
Here in MN they will not send the police if there are no injuries. You are still required by the insurance company to file a police report, though. Post accident, you call the police, give them the details and they create a report. The details in the report would still be evidence of who is at fault. They just aren't going to send a squad to do accident reconstruction on a fender bender.
I never understood how that works. Couldn't the other guy just call and make a report saying it was your fault?
Sure, but couldn't the other guy do the same when the police arrive?
Not always. In the situation I was in that I mentioned above, if it had not been for the cop citing the women, they may not have paid for my repairs.

 
Everybody has their opinion. The guy is obviously an immigrant. He works for a pizza place making minimum wage. I guarantee he is living paycheck to paycheck. I have no interest in having this guy rack up hundreds of dollars in fines, maybe losing his license, then losing his job if he is a pizza driver. I don't see why people have an issue with me having kindness to someone that is already struggling?

As far as fake plates and what not....I got the VIN number off of his vehicle and his driver's license info.

I filed a claim with my insurance, they will do the work.
I delivered pizza. They would fire him if they knew he had expired insurance. You do realize he is putting that business in danger? Everyone who works there could lose their job if they got sued. You didn't do other drivers a favor. You didn't do the business any favors. You only enabled him to continue to be illegal.
Could you expound on this? I would think that pizza companies have liability insurance for all of their drivers and that there's a policy for checking the licenses of drivers.
Seems to be working pretty well. I am sure they have business insurance but they don't cover every driver with liability insurance. Now the fact that he was on the job and was uninsured leaves a problem for that business. If it is a small independent a suit over an uninsured driver hitting someone could certainly be a major financial and business hit. It could very well end a location. A franchisee may be a little better protected but not much. Believe me when I say they live in fear of this kind of thing happening and the suit because of it.
They should probably opt into non-owned vehicle coverage on their business insurance, then.

 
Everybody has their opinion. The guy is obviously an immigrant. He works for a pizza place making minimum wage. I guarantee he is living paycheck to paycheck. I have no interest in having this guy rack up hundreds of dollars in fines, maybe losing his license, then losing his job if he is a pizza driver. I don't see why people have an issue with me having kindness to someone that is already struggling?

As far as fake plates and what not....I got the VIN number off of his vehicle and his driver's license info.

I filed a claim with my insurance, they will do the work.
I delivered pizza. They would fire him if they knew he had expired insurance. You do realize he is putting that business in danger? Everyone who works there could lose their job if they got sued. You didn't do other drivers a favor. You didn't do the business any favors. You only enabled him to continue to be illegal.
Could you expound on this? I would think that pizza companies have liability insurance for all of their drivers and that there's a policy for checking the licenses of drivers.
Seems to be working pretty well. I am sure they have business insurance but they don't cover every driver with liability insurance. Now the fact that he was on the job and was uninsured leaves a problem for that business. If it is a small independent a suit over an uninsured driver hitting someone could certainly be a major financial and business hit. It could very well end a location. A franchisee may be a little better protected but not much. Believe me when I say they live in fear of this kind of thing happening and the suit because of it.
They should probably opt into non-owned vehicle coverage on their business insurance, then.
Of course. But I am guessing a lot of small mom and pops get the basics and run with it to get open. Then they add delivery down the road and never do anything with the insurance. At least that's been the case in a couple I was involved in. I am sure the big 3 have insurance out the ### for the corporation but not sure they require it of franchisees. Again unless the franchisers agent is on his game some of them might not have all the coverage they need. And even the big 3 are very hot to have no problems with drivers and insurance or licensing insured or not.

 
You can't make this stuff up.

I had an estimate done yesterday. Geico wants me to go to their shop today. The first thing I think about is how will FBG's handle this?( How ####### sick is that?)

Enterprise calls me last night and says that my insurance contacted them and advised that I need a rent car, they know my make and model and will have a car at the auto body shop waiting for me at 8:30.

I go to the auto shop and there is no car. I tell them I was promised a car waiting, so I brought my kids and since there is no car, I have to call for a ride and take them somewhere and come back. I drop them off at a sitters, and come back. Enterprise guy is there and we do all of the paper work. Enterprise says insurance is paying for the rental.

Walk outside and it's a 15 passenger van. WTF am I going to do with a bus? Gieco guy comes out and states they are not paying for the rental until they find out what is going on with the other guy. ( We don't know if he has coverage or not, and the agent is on vacation)

I tell Enterprise guy that I was promised a comparable car and this is not it. He literally told me to bad so sad. My car was already taken apart and I had no ride.

I took the van advised him that I would go straight home, park it, and look for a different company. This guy told me whatever and handed me the keys and walked off.

I spent five hours looking for a rental found one and took the van back. I complain, don't get any remorse and was charged for the full day... 4hrs and 8 miles.

Enterprise says don't worry about it, insurance is paying for it. I let them know I don't have rental on my policy and I will pay. He shows me the invoice and the responsible party states Geico. I was told by two Geico people it's not covered... I decide I will just pay and get the money back from them. I give him the money.

I walked out feeling like a ##### again....I hate you FBG's!

 
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