iPad (2 Viewers)

[Otis]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Beggars != choosers

 

[Otis]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Apparently it was. Just a second or so really? The story states it was at least 4 minutes to grab the downloads.

FOUR MINUTES!!!11**That's to download the latest version of iTunes. There's not much that happens with the device. I think it took 30 seconds.

It didn't upset me.

 

[LokiKx]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Apparently it was. Just a second or so really? The story states it was at least 4 minutes to grab the downloads.

FOUR MINUTES!!!11**That's to download the latest version of iTunes. There's not much that happens with the device. I think it took 30 seconds.

It didn't upset me.

The time I was simply poking fun at CS. Should you have to use the PC at all? Why the need? Wouldn't it be wiser to use the wi-fi connection to update/activate?

Does this also mean that any new upgrades will require a PC?

 

[Jason Bourne]

Does this also mean that any new upgrades will require a PC?

I suspect that all new upgrades will occur via itunes - just like the iphone.

 

[3C's]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Apparently it was. Just a second or so really? The story states it was at least 4 minutes to grab the downloads.

FOUR MINUTES!!!11**That's to download the latest version of iTunes. There's not much that happens with the device. I think it took 30 seconds.

It didn't upset me.

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

 

[California]

As people are saying, the ipad shouldn't be considered a computer replacement since you need a real computer to hook it up to to use it to full capacity. ipad is primarily a media consumption device and it excels at that.

When people say that the ipad is a giant ipod touch, they're 100% correct. This is terrible or awesome depending on who you are.

This would be my dream tablet (for now): http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-te...omplete-tablet/

In terms of hardware specs and capabilities, this is something I could use to totally replace my laptop. I already know the software won't be as polished as the ipad and that's the genius or bane of Apple, depending on how you think of them.

Apple never tries to throw everything and the kitchen sink in their products. They really limit hardware specs/options but what they do include they execute really really well. The other thing is that while the hardware options are limited (no usb, no webcam, no sdhc, etc.), the actual build quality is usually top notch.

The main reason people will love the ipad is the same reason they love their iphones, the software. It's entirely about the software. Android is getting close but it's not there yet (I'm a big Android fan) and no one else is close.

Even if you hate the ipad or Apple as a whole, you gotta be thankful. Our current generation of smartphones wouldn't be the way they are without the iphone. You wouldn't see the slew of new tablets coming out this year if Apple wasn't making the ipad.

I'm not an ipad owner (yet), but I'm really glad this is out there.

 

[belljr]

While I have no dog in this fight, I think it's an ok product but don't see the need FOR ME, yes I have used one,

I do think that it is kind of "dumb" that you need another PC to set it up. They should be able to do it through an app or something

 

[ODoyleRules]

HP iPad killer

Looking at the (purported) spec sheet, the Slate appears to have a series of enticing features that are missing on the iPad. There's the camera, of course, and we're not just talking one but two: a 3MP lens in back and a front-facing VGA camera for video conferencing. We've also got a single USB 2.0 port, an SD card reader, a "conventional" SIM tray for 3G networking, and HDMI-out video capabilities (not to mention 1080p playback) via the Slate's dock connector. (Each of these key points are highlighted on the leaked marketing sheet as an "HP advantage," by the way.)

RIP Amazon:1994 - 12:28pm 4/7/2010

 

[gmbacm]

As people are saying, the ipad shouldn't be considered a computer replacement since you need a real computer to hook it up to to use it to full capacity. ipad is primarily a media consumption device and it excels at that.

exactly - the ipad is an accessory for your computer. A fun accessory - yes.Not sure why folks are making comparisons to computers in here - both financially and function wise.

 

[California]

As people are saying, the ipad shouldn't be considered a computer replacement since you need a real computer to hook it up to to use it to full capacity. ipad is primarily a media consumption device and it excels at that.

exactly - the ipad is an accessory for your computer. A fun accessory - yes.Not sure why folks are making comparisons to computers in here - both financially and function wise.

Yep, and this is why I can't justify buying one (yet). It's not that $500 is overly expensive for what it does, it's just redundant. I have a touch and a laptop so the ipad would be a convenience only. If I had neither, I'd scoop this up.Regarding the HP Slate, the initial specs made me excited, but I don't know how the software/UI is going to be. It's going to be running Win7 (which I love), but I don't know how they're optimizing it for tablets. If it's more desktopish than tabletish, it's gonna bomb. I really think a tablet UI has to be made from the ground up. Other than the Tegra 2 Android tablet, I'm also looking forward to Microsoft's Courier. http://www.engadget.com/search/?q=courier&...nType=wl-gadget

 

[Ignoramus]

While I have no dog in this fight, I think it's an ok product but don't see the need FOR ME, yes I have used one,I do think that it is kind of "dumb" that you need another PC to set it up. They should be able to do it through an app or something :X

I'm in the same camp. I played around with one for a while at the Apple store today... it's pretty neat but it just doesn't wow me to the point that I think I need to buy one right now. Maybe we'll look at it again when the wife's laptop craps out since she's a pretty casual user, but I do too much actual computing (and gaming ) on my laptop to replace it with an over-sized iPod Touch.

 

[Jason Bourne]

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

:X what are they doing with a wi-fi network if they don't have a PC?

 

[gmbacm]

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

:X what are they doing with a wi-fi network if they don't have a PC?

You dont think someone might borrow/steal a wifi connection to use with their ipad?

 

[belljr]

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

what are they doing with a wi-fi network if they don't have a PC?

Good point..... xbox, ps3 ??Maybe bought Wi-Fi just for the ipad

 

[California]

http://gizmodo.com/5511678/apple-ipad-review

Interesting read on how a reviewer used his ipad. Unfortunately I spend 10 hours a day at the office and I switch my phone off on weekends. How kids interact with the ipad is spot on tho. My 5 year old loves it and is a pro.

 

[LokiKx]

As people are saying, the ipad shouldn't be considered a computer replacement since you need a real computer to hook it up to to use it to full capacity. ipad is primarily a media consumption device and it excels at that.

When people say that the ipad is a giant ipod touch, they're 100% correct. This is terrible or awesome depending on who you are.

This would be my dream tablet (for now): http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-te...omplete-tablet/

In terms of hardware specs and capabilities, this is something I could use to totally replace my laptop. I already know the software won't be as polished as the ipad and that's the genius or bane of Apple, depending on how you think of them.

Apple never tries to throw everything and the kitchen sink in their products. They really limit hardware specs/options but what they do include they execute really really well. The other thing is that while the hardware options are limited (no usb, no webcam, no sdhc, etc.), the actual build quality is usually top notch.

The main reason people will love the ipad is the same reason they love their iphones, the software. It's entirely about the software. Android is getting close but it's not there yet (I'm a big Android fan) and no one else is close.

Even if you hate the ipad or Apple as a whole, you gotta be thankful. Our current generation of smartphones wouldn't be the way they are without the iphone. You wouldn't see the slew of new tablets coming out this year if Apple wasn't making the ipad.

I'm not an ipad owner (yet), but I'm really glad this is out there.

I thought most of those devices had already been in development. Especially the terrible JooJoo.

 

[Walton Goggins]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Apparently it was. Just a second or so really? The story states it was at least 4 minutes to grab the downloads.

FOUR MINUTES!!!11**That's to download the latest version of iTunes. There's not much that happens with the device. I think it took 30 seconds.

It didn't upset me.

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

People who assume the IPad is a PC are SOOL and don't feel sorry for them. Hell, Apple doesn't even say the IPAD is a personal computer so if people are duped into thinking the IPAD comes close to what a laptop can do then don't cry when you finally realize that you need your laptop for the number of things that your IPad device can't do.

 

[Walton Goggins]

As people are saying, the ipad shouldn't be considered a computer replacement since you need a real computer to hook it up to to use it to full capacity. ipad is primarily a media consumption device and it excels at that.

exactly - the ipad is an accessory for your computer. A fun accessory - yes.Not sure why folks are making comparisons to computers in here - both financially and function wise.

Well Otis seems to think so and sure many others who have one also agree. It's impossible to just have an IPad and get by. It's a device, even Apple calls it so on their site.

 

[3C's]

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

what are they doing with a wi-fi network if they don't have a PC?

Maybe they could use 1 of the 1000s of wi-fi hotspots

 

[LokiKx]

http://gizmodo.com/5511678/apple-ipad-review

Interesting read on how a reviewer used his ipad. Unfortunately I spend 10 hours a day at the office and I switch my phone off on weekends. How kids interact with the ipad is spot on tho. My 5 year old loves it and is a pro.

"A little girl ignores the rare green snake in the cage to watch the YouTube video playing on the iPad, of the very same animal feeding. She's fascinated by it and not the real viper."Is this what we are becoming? Pretty sad image in my mind.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

As people are saying, the ipad shouldn't be considered a computer replacement since you need a real computer to hook it up to to use it to full capacity. ipad is primarily a media consumption device and it excels at that.

When people say that the ipad is a giant ipod touch, they're 100% correct. This is terrible or awesome depending on who you are.

This would be my dream tablet (for now): http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/06/icds-te...omplete-tablet/

In terms of hardware specs and capabilities, this is something I could use to totally replace my laptop. I already know the software won't be as polished as the ipad and that's the genius or bane of Apple, depending on how you think of them.

Apple never tries to throw everything and the kitchen sink in their products. They really limit hardware specs/options but what they do include they execute really really well. The other thing is that while the hardware options are limited (no usb, no webcam, no sdhc, etc.), the actual build quality is usually top notch.

The main reason people will love the ipad is the same reason they love their iphones, the software. It's entirely about the software. Android is getting close but it's not there yet (I'm a big Android fan) and no one else is close.

Even if you hate the ipad or Apple as a whole, you gotta be thankful. Our current generation of smartphones wouldn't be the way they are without the iphone. You wouldn't see the slew of new tablets coming out this year if Apple wasn't making the ipad.

I'm not an ipad owner (yet), but I'm really glad this is out there.

the Norton Ink Adam was mentioned in another thread as well

 

[Otis]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Apparently it was. Just a second or so really? The story states it was at least 4 minutes to grab the downloads.

FOUR MINUTES!!!11**That's to download the latest version of iTunes. There's not much that happens with the device. I think it took 30 seconds.

It didn't upset me.

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

That person = owned.

 

[California]

I thought most of those devices had already been in development. Especially the terrible JooJoo.

You're right, any tablet coming out this year has been in development for awhile. A lot of companies who had only passive interest in tablets are taking it serious now tho because of Apple.For good or bad, every single tablet is going to be compared to the ipad. JooJoo had terrible timing. I've read the reviews and yeah it sucks, but I think reviews would be a bit better if it was the only tablet available and wasn't being compared to the ipad.

The Notion Ink Adam does look promising also, totally forgot about that one.

http://labs.chitika.com/ipad/

Interesting sales #. I didn't think CA would be that much higher than everyone else but I guess it makes sense with all the tech companies.

 

[Cunk]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Yes, initial setup you had to connect it to iTunes for around one second or so. Is it really a big deal? Jesus.

Apparently it was. Just a second or so really? The story states it was at least 4 minutes to grab the downloads.

FOUR MINUTES!!!11**That's to download the latest version of iTunes. There's not much that happens with the device. I think it took 30 seconds.

It didn't upset me.

Of course not. It wouldn't upset me either. It would upset the person that doesn't own/have access to a pc and gets that thing home from BB only to find they have a device they can't use until they find someone with a pc and itunes. As it was for that person in that story.

Besides my 90 year old grandmother I don't know a That Person.

 

[noneother]

the ars technica review states that you can get the ipad activated at an apple store.. you don't HAVE to go thru via itunes...

 

[LokiKx]

Wi-Fi Issues

Here it is

Also who in here is posting on the Apple site.

P.S. At least some users have also reported some success in fixing the issue by simply turning up the brightness on their iPad (of all things), but Apple doesn't seem to be recommending that as a solution

 

[LokiKx]

the ars technica review states that you can get the ipad activated at an apple store.. you don't HAVE to go thru via itunes...

That makes perfect sense. I read the article and that did not even register.Thanks.

 

[culdeus]

There's a story on consumerist stating that a user HAD to have a pc with iTunes to activate his iPad.

This seems silly if true. Shouldn't you be able to use the device with out having a PC at all? Isn't that kinda the point of it?

Consumerist

Lots of jokes on the nerd boards about the irony of having to have a tablet PC to activate an ipad. Seems to be the ipad meme of the moment.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

 

[Otis]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

 

[Otis]

Folks losing their minds in here.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

 

[LokiKx]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

This is a silly argument.By definition a calculator is a computer as i'm sure a lot of things people would not generally associate with being a computer.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Cause Jobs/Apple doesn't call it a computer and rightfully so.

 

[LokiKx]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

Perhaps you should alert Jobs since he and Apple forgot to list it as a computer on their website then.

 

[Otis]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Cause Jobs/Apple doesn't call it a computer and rightfully so.

Processor - checkMemory - check

Executes software - check

Display - check

User interface - check

Has an operating system - check

If this isn't a computer, then the computers that control the stock exchange, airplanes, your car, and NASA aren't computers either.

Walt,

What's the endgame on this fishing trip? If it's not a computer, do you win?

Thanks,

Oats

 

[Walton Goggins]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Cause Jobs/Apple doesn't call it a computer and rightfully so.

Processor - checkMemory - check

Executes software - check

Display - check

User interface - check

Has an operating system - check

If this isn't a computer, then the computers that control the stock exchange, airplanes, your car, and NASA aren't computers either.

Walt,

What's the endgame on this fishing trip? If it's not a computer, do you win?

Thanks,

Oats

Go look on the Apple website, unlike Mac's they don't call it a computer

 

[Chunky Soup]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

Did you quote the wrong guy by accident? Are you going to say the iPad is teh bomb next?

 

[LokiKx]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

Perhaps you should alert Jobs since he and Apple forgot to list it as a computer on their website then.

That is pure marketing. They DO NOT want you to associate the iPad as being a computer in the current sense such as a laptop or desktop.

 

[gmbacm]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Apparently its a computer that you need a computer to use.By your logic, any calculator is a computer. Not sure if that supports your 90% cheaper then any computer theory though.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Go look on the Apple website, unlike Mac's they don't call it a computer

You said they call it a product and therefore they are saying it's not a computer. Is that really your argument here?

 

[LokiKx]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

Did you quote the wrong guy by accident? Are you going to say the iPad is teh bomb next?

Yep because you are correct. No not gong to state the iPad is the bomb

 

[Otis]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Apparently its a computer that you need a computer to use.By your logic, any calculator is a computer. Not sure if that supports your 90% cheaper then any computer theory though.

So go buy a calculator. That or go find a calculator thread to post in to complain about how crappy calculators are.

WIN-WIN!

 

[Walton Goggins]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

Computers can fall under the broad term/category of products. In this case, it does. You should really give this point up.

Perhaps you should alert Jobs since he and Apple forgot to list it as a computer on their website then.

That is pure marketing. They DO NOT want you to associate the iPad as being a computer in the current sense such as a laptop or desktop.

It's magical

 

[Walton Goggins]

and revolutionary

 

[gmbacm]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Apparently its a computer that you need a computer to use.By your logic, any calculator is a computer. Not sure if that supports your 90% cheaper then any computer theory though.

So go buy a calculator. That or go find a calculator thread to post in to complain about how crappy calculators are.

WIN-WIN!

im good with the calculator on my ipod touch computer, thanks.

 

[LokiKx]

Otis thinking it's a computer! Classic.

on the apple site itself:

Why you’ll love a Mac

It’s a computer unlike any other. Easy to use, powerful, compatible, and secure.

IPad

A magical and revolutionary product at an unbelievable price.

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

Apparently its a computer that you need a computer to use.By your logic, any calculator is a computer. Not sure if that supports your 90% cheaper then any computer theory though.

So go buy a calculator. That or go find a calculator thread to post in to complain about how crappy calculators are.

WIN-WIN!

The point is a lot of things can be considered computers. The fact is both of you are making a pretty lame argument.

 

[Ignoramus]

Folks losing their minds in here.

Case in point:

HOW IS IT NOT A COMPUTER?

 

[gmbacm]

Apparently its a computer that you need a computer to use.

By your logic, any calculator is a computer. Not sure if that supports your 90% cheaper then any computer theory though.

So go buy a calculator. That or go find a calculator thread to post in to complain about how crappy calculators are.

WIN-WIN!

The point is a lot of things can be considered computers. The fact is both of you are making a pretty lame argument.

By definition a calculator is a computer as i'm sure a lot of things people would not generally associate with being a computer.