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otis> oxymoron? Seriously? Be easy on the poor girl.
I don't even go easy on my own chick. :killerinstinct:otis> oxymoron? Seriously? Be easy on the poor girl.
I don't even go easy on my own chick. :killerinstinct:It's only possible with a jail broken iPhone.
Hard justifying it.If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?
Thanks, that is what I was seeing online, but not really on recognizable websites.If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?
Why are people offering you more for it than you paid? Are these scams?If I can get what I paid, I might just do it. Of course I wouldn't want to be without it for several days, but if I could smoothly pull off a sale of it and then pick up the 3G, I would.I also would probably just sign up for the $15 a month plan to start -- since most of my usage will be wifi, I might well be able to get by just on that.I'm very tempted.Jesus. Was offered 600 and 650 on craigslist around here for my used 32GB iPad. Yeah, the same iPad I bought for 600. Thought about doing that to upgrade to the 3G, butHard justifying it.- I have the 32GB. I'd only do it if I got 16GB 3G. Not sure that'll hold everything.- I imagine I'd use the 3G barely ever. That's great about the ATT non-contract thing, but why pay the 130 extra if I use it maybe 1% of my total usage?- I can use the saved money to get wifi in airports, etc.- A lot of the apps like Netflix, ABC, I'm not sure if they work over 3G? Can you download movie from iTunes over only 3G? I don't know the restrictions exactly, but they definitely exist (at least for the iPhone, right?).I can really see how it's useful for others out and about more often. For my usage, I can't justify it.
Microsoft Cancels Innovative Courier Tablet Project
According to sources familiar with the matter, Microsoft has cancelled Courier, the folding, two-screen prototype tablet that was first uncovered by Gizmodo.
We're told that on Wednesday, Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer Microsoft execs informed the internal team that had been working on the tablet device that the project would no longer be supported. Courier had never been publicly announced or acknowledged as a Microsoft product.
It appeared from the leaked information last year that a Courier prototype was probably near to completion. The combination of both touch- and pen-based computing was compelling. Perhaps the strong launch of Apple's iPad, currently the only available "mobile tablet" from a major vendor, caused Ballmer to reassess the commitment of Microsoft in a soon-to-be-crowded market.
We contacted Microsoft, who confirmed that Courier will not go into production. Microsoft Corporate VP of Communications Frank Shaw told us:
At any given time, we're looking at new ideas, investigating, testing, incubating them. It's in our DNA to develop new form factors and natural user interfaces to foster productivity and creativity. The Courier project is an example of this type of effort. It will be evaluated for use in future offerings, but we have no plans to build such a device at this time.
It is a pity. Courier was one of the most innovative concepts out of Redmond in quite some time. But what we loved about Courier was the interface and the thinking behind it—not necessarily its custom operating system.
In fact, it makes sense for Microsoft to continue to trim away splinter versions of its core operating systems and focus on Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 unity across all its devices. Hopefully some of the smart thinking we have seen in Courier will find its way into Microsoft's tablets, whether they're powered by Windows 7 or Windows Phone 7.
If we hear anything more, we'll let you know. As always, feel free to contact me if you have additional details.
Apple Doesn't Have To Worry About The HP Slate Anymore
Apple's iPad team doesn't have to worry about the HP Slate tablet for a while, if it ever did, anyway.
During a call with analysts to explain its purchase of Palm, HP was evasive about whether or not it will still release its Microsoft Windows-based Slate.
An analyst asked what HP would be doing with its iPad-rival. HP's Todd Bradley responded, "We haven't made roadmap announcements," but that HP will explain its Slate plans in more detail when the Palm deal closes.
That's at least a few months away: HP expects the deal to close during its fiscal third quarter, which ends at the end of July. And building Palm's WebOS operating system into HP tablets could take much longer -- perhaps even a year or more.
So if HP were to scrap its plans for a Windows tablet and wait for a WebOS tablet, that might not happen until next year.
Meanwhile, if HP was still all-in with its Windows-based Slate, we think Todd may have said, "we still plan on partnering with Microsoft on the Slate."
Even if it does a Slate with Windows, there's reason to believe it will be a one-off product as the company transitions to its new operating system. So neither neither HP nor Microsoft would heartily support that gadget in the future. And that doesn't sound like anything that would cause Apple any damage.
I can't believe they're scams. These are emails sent from people that have emails addresses from various companies in DC. I can't believe some guy, for example, "Jay@architectdc.com" is going to scam me when I can see his profile online. But why are they doing this? I'm not 100% sure but I have a couple of guesses. They are sold out around here so maybe some fanboy (Commish or Card Trader, was it you?) needs one now. Also, maybe to sell overseas?So I had the 600, 650 offer but I also had a 550 offer along with one weird offer -- guy offering his 16GB iPhone 3Gs + 100 cash for it. Declined all so far. Maybe you'll have good luck in NYC. I'd put it up ASAP before the 3G becomes wide-spread (I think you brought this point up before). I think you'll at least get something decent for it.Why are people offering you more for it than you paid? Are these scams?If I can get what I paid, I might just do it. Of course I wouldn't want to be without it for several days, but if I could smoothly pull off a sale of it and then pick up the 3G, I would.Jesus. Was offered 600 and 650 on craigslist around here for my used 32GB iPad. Yeah, the same iPad I bought for 600. Thought about doing that to upgrade to the 3G, butHard justifying it.
- I have the 32GB. I'd only do it if I got 16GB 3G. Not sure that'll hold everything.
- I imagine I'd use the 3G barely ever. That's great about the ATT non-contract thing, but why pay the 130 extra if I use it maybe 1% of my total usage?
- I can use the saved money to get wifi in airports, etc.
- A lot of the apps like Netflix, ABC, I'm not sure if they work over 3G? Can you download movie from iTunes over only 3G? I don't know the restrictions exactly, but they definitely exist (at least for the iPhone, right?).
I can really see how it's useful for others out and about more often. For my usage, I can't justify it.
I also would probably just sign up for the $15 a month plan to start -- since most of my usage will be wifi, I might well be able to get by just on that.
I'm very tempted.
Microsoft Cancels Innovative Courier Tablet Project
According to sources familiar with the matter, Microsoft has cancelled Courier, the folding, two-screen prototype tablet that was first uncovered by Gizmodo.
We're told that on Wednesday, Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer Microsoft execs informed the internal team that had been working on the tablet device that the project would no longer be supported. Courier had never been publicly announced or acknowledged as a Microsoft product.
It appeared from the leaked information last year that a Courier prototype was probably near to completion. The combination of both touch- and pen-based computing was compelling. Perhaps the strong launch of Apple's iPad, currently the only available "mobile tablet" from a major vendor, caused Ballmer to reassess the commitment of Microsoft in a soon-to-be-crowded market.
We contacted Microsoft, who confirmed that Courier will not go into production. Microsoft Corporate VP of Communications Frank Shaw told us:
At any given time, we're looking at new ideas, investigating, testing, incubating them. It's in our DNA to develop new form factors and natural user interfaces to foster productivity and creativity. The Courier project is an example of this type of effort. It will be evaluated for use in future offerings, but we have no plans to build such a device at this time.
It is a pity. Courier was one of the most innovative concepts out of Redmond in quite some time. But what we loved about Courier was the interface and the thinking behind it—not necessarily its custom operating system.
In fact, it makes sense for Microsoft to continue to trim away splinter versions of its core operating systems and focus on Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 unity across all its devices. Hopefully some of the smart thinking we have seen in Courier will find its way into Microsoft's tablets, whether they're powered by Windows 7 or Windows Phone 7.
If we hear anything more, we'll let you know. As always, feel free to contact me if you have additional details.Apple Doesn't Have To Worry About The HP Slate Anymore
Apple's iPad team doesn't have to worry about the HP Slate tablet for a while, if it ever did, anyway.
During a call with analysts to explain its purchase of Palm, HP was evasive about whether or not it will still release its Microsoft Windows-based Slate.
An analyst asked what HP would be doing with its iPad-rival. HP's Todd Bradley responded, "We haven't made roadmap announcements," but that HP will explain its Slate plans in more detail when the Palm deal closes.
That's at least a few months away: HP expects the deal to close during its fiscal third quarter, which ends at the end of July. And building Palm's WebOS operating system into HP tablets could take much longer -- perhaps even a year or more.
So if HP were to scrap its plans for a Windows tablet and wait for a WebOS tablet, that might not happen until next year.
Meanwhile, if HP was still all-in with its Windows-based Slate, we think Todd may have said, "we still plan on partnering with Microsoft on the Slate."
Even if it does a Slate with Windows, there's reason to believe it will be a one-off product as the company transitions to its new operating system. So neither neither HP nor Microsoft would heartily support that gadget in the future. And that doesn't sound like anything that would cause Apple any damage.![]()
These were the devices with better specs that everyone said they would wait on earlier in this thread.
wned:I guess to save tax and get it now...
The answer is No just as Steve Jobs said. You can break DMCA and copyright laws, in Apple eyes, and Jailbreak the phone though. Then the phone supports illegal software that Apple does not want you to be using and makes it a much, much better phone.Jojo the circus boy said:
What if I have a non-jailbroken iPhone that I was able to enable tethering that works with my laptop? (at least it did, I do not test it after every iPhone patch)Otis said:It's only possible with a jail broken iPhone.Jojo the circus boy said:
Norton Ink is the only one I think most people were taking seriously.Can we get some more links to awesome futuristic tablet devices that are way better than the iPad but won't actually be made?
Pretty easy decision now.At this point I'm torn between the Courier and the Notion Ink Adam...both probably won't be out until Q3.

Absolutely, glad Microsoft made my decision for mePretty easy decision now.At this point I'm torn between the Courier and the Notion Ink Adam...both probably won't be out until Q3.![]()

No.What if I have a non-jailbroken iPhone that I was able to enable tethering that works with my laptop? (at least it did, I do not test it after every iPhone patch)Otis said:It's only possible with a jail broken iPhone.Jojo the circus boy said:
Card, no telling what MS is actually doing with the device. Most people realize what prototypes are and how/why they are used. Reminds me of the Zune phone rumors that MS kept saying would not happen even though prototypes had been around. What did we end up getting the WM7 series phones.Absolutely, glad Microsoft made my decision for mePretty easy decision now.At this point I'm torn between the Courier and the Notion Ink Adam...both probably won't be out until Q3.![]()
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Not magical though. Nothing changes lives like Apple.Card, no telling what MS is actually doing with the device. Most people realize what prototypes are and how/why they are used. Reminds me of the Zune phone rumors that MS kept saying would not happen even though prototypes had been around. What did we end up getting the WM7 series phones.
True. About 3-4 guys at work run around with the Zune HD. I've been meaning to give it a look since I heard about WM7. Just haven't had the time.Not to mention my car is wired for my touch, my alarm clock docks my touch, etc. Seems like a lot of money to switch over even if I liked it.Not magical though. Nothing changes lives like Apple.Card, no telling what MS is actually doing with the device. Most people realize what prototypes are and how/why they are used. Reminds me of the Zune phone rumors that MS kept saying would not happen even though prototypes had been around. What did we end up getting the WM7 series phones.
Microsoft Cancels Innovative Courier Tablet Project
According to sources familiar with the matter, Microsoft has cancelled Courier, the folding, two-screen prototype tablet that was first uncovered by Gizmodo.
We're told that on Wednesday, Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer Microsoft execs informed the internal team that had been working on the tablet device that the project would no longer be supported. Courier had never been publicly announced or acknowledged as a Microsoft product.
It appeared from the leaked information last year that a Courier prototype was probably near to completion. The combination of both touch- and pen-based computing was compelling. Perhaps the strong launch of Apple's iPad, currently the only available "mobile tablet" from a major vendor, caused Ballmer to reassess the commitment of Microsoft in a soon-to-be-crowded market.
We contacted Microsoft, who confirmed that Courier will not go into production. Microsoft Corporate VP of Communications Frank Shaw told us:
At any given time, we're looking at new ideas, investigating, testing, incubating them. It's in our DNA to develop new form factors and natural user interfaces to foster productivity and creativity. The Courier project is an example of this type of effort. It will be evaluated for use in future offerings, but we have no plans to build such a device at this time.
It is a pity. Courier was one of the most innovative concepts out of Redmond in quite some time. But what we loved about Courier was the interface and the thinking behind it—not necessarily its custom operating system.
In fact, it makes sense for Microsoft to continue to trim away splinter versions of its core operating systems and focus on Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 unity across all its devices. Hopefully some of the smart thinking we have seen in Courier will find its way into Microsoft's tablets, whether they're powered by Windows 7 or Windows Phone 7.
If we hear anything more, we'll let you know. As always, feel free to contact me if you have additional details.![]()
NAILED IT!!goonsquad said:More vaporware from Microsoft. This is standard M$ operating procedure; "leak" info on an upcoming product to coincide with another highly anticipated unveiling. Of course, all we see are digital mock-ups with no working prototype or release date. I'd be surprised if this even sees the light of day in the next few years.flufhed said:whoahThat looks freaking awesomeJojo the circus boy said:Not sure if you saw this or not, MSFT, already has one in the works:
http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-d...s-secret-tablet

fyi: I ordered my 32GB Wifi+ 3G online on 4/10 and just got an email that it shipped today and will arrive tomorrow.If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?
can't wait...Not from Best Buy.com for it's not showing the 3g version to order yet. You must be talking about Apple store, right?joey said:fyi: I ordered my 32GB Wifi+ 3G online on 4/10 and just got an email that it shipped today and will arrive tomorrow.California said:If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.The Flying Turtle said:So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?can't wait...
It's Millennium Falcon. How dare you.Otis said:I'm really torn between the Ford Focus and the Millenium Falkan. Thoughts?
Hell yeah! It would look amazing, get about 12mpg have around 145hp total and only make right turns but it would be magical as f***!Apple should make a car. It would put all those luxury cars to shame.
Get ready to experience heaven. Welcome to the future.joey said:fyi: I ordered my 32GB Wifi+ 3G online on 4/10 and just got an email that it shipped today and will arrive tomorrow.California said:If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.The Flying Turtle said:So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?can't wait...
Apple Store online. Never even thought of ordering from Best Buy.And if Best Buy isn't even showing the 3G version, why wouldn't you hop on over to the Apple.com andjust order it there right now? What's better about the Best Buy site?I assume the price is the same at both sites, right?Not from Best Buy.com for it's not showing the 3g version to order yet. You must be talking about Apple store, right?joey said:fyi: I ordered my 32GB Wifi+ 3G online on 4/10 and just got an email that it shipped today and will arrive tomorrow.California said:If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.The Flying Turtle said:So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?can't wait...
I'm surrounded by the future. I can't swing a cat at work these days without hitting an iPad.Get ready to experience heaven. Welcome to the future.joey said:fyi: I ordered my 32GB Wifi+ 3G online on 4/10 and just got an email that it shipped today and will arrive tomorrow.California said:If you buy online, you'll get it May 7. 3G version will be on sale at Apple stores tomorrow tho.The Flying Turtle said:So is the 3G version being released on April 30th? The Apple site said "Ship by end of April", now it says ship May 7th.Should I go to Best Buy early or wait until next week?Otis, can you make some calls and find out?can't wait...
Really?my iPhone is not jailbroken.Otis said:No.Jojo the circus boy said:What if I have a non-jailbroken iPhone that I was able to enable tethering that works with my laptop? (at least it did, I do not test it after every iPhone patch)Otis said:It's only possible with a jail broken iPhone.Jojo the circus boy said:
I heard the Courier can do this no problem. :(Really?my iPhone is not jailbroken.Otis said:No.Jojo the circus boy said:What if I have a non-jailbroken iPhone that I was able to enable tethering that works with my laptop? (at least it did, I do not test it after every iPhone patch)Otis said:It's only possible with a jail broken iPhone.Jojo the circus boy said:
So you have tried to tether the iPad with a phone? (maybe a non-iPhone)
What kind of lame error message do you get?
I guess the iPad really is not a computer if you cannot tether it to an "internet source."
Hard to argue with this logic.I guess the iPad really is not a computer if you cannot tether it to an "internet source."
can't argue with sound logic like this tooI heard the Courier can do this no problem.Really?my iPhone is not jailbroken.Otis said:
So you have tried to tether the iPad with a phone? (maybe a non-iPhone)
What kind of lame error message do you get?
I guess the iPad really is not a computer if you cannot tether it to an "internet source."![]()
iPadHTHHow about everyone that has one post a picture showing us your iPad and custom background? See how everyone has there's setup
?can't argue with sound logic like this tooI heard the Courier can do this no problem.Really?my iPhone is not jailbroken.Otis said:
So you have tried to tether the iPad with a phone? (maybe a non-iPhone)
What kind of lame error message do you get?
I guess the iPad really is not a computer if you cannot tether it to an "internet source."![]()
We've been trying to tell you this for three pages. Thx.So according to this thread even though you can use the iPhone (or any other phone) to tether to laptops and netbooks via bluetooth, Apple specifically put code into the iPad to not recognize bluetooth internet connections (for lack of a better term). Jailbreaking the iPhone enables the use of the phone as a wifi hotspot.
Just thought I would bring some education into this thread. Yet another technological restriction imposed on the iPadLock
Funny you mention this. I'd like to see one, but have yet to find a single person that owns one where I work. And I work with a bunch of analysts and techno-geeks. The dude that sits next to me has a Macbook (or whatever the laptop is called) plus an iPhone. Several others have the phones, they are always talking about apps for those. But not one of them bought an iPad. Peer pressure hasn't worked. But I'll keep trying.I'm surrounded by the future. I can't swing a cat at work these days without hitting an iPad.
Thx for explaining the WHY, just saying "No" comes across as ignorant.We've been trying to tell you this for three pages. Thx.So according to this thread even though you can use the iPhone (or any other phone) to tether to laptops and netbooks via bluetooth, Apple specifically put code into the iPad to not recognize bluetooth internet connections (for lack of a better term). Jailbreaking the iPhone enables the use of the phone as a wifi hotspot.
Just thought I would bring some education into this thread. Yet another technological restriction imposed on the iPadLock