Iranian Mother Pardons Sons Killer On Gallows (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Sorry if honda. Pretty amazing story with pictures. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304311204579508130253773374?mod=e2fb#1

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[johnjohn]

Sorry if honda. Pretty amazing story with pictures. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304311204579508130253773374?mod=e2fb#1

J

Not sure how I feel about a mother letting her sons killer go.

My first thought is that its terrible, but on second though, it is beautiful to have that kind of forgiveness.

 

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Sorry if honda. Pretty amazing story with pictures. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304311204579508130253773374?mod=e2fb#1

J

Not sure how I feel about a mother letting her sons killer go.

My first thought is that its terrible, but on second though, it is beautiful to have that kind of forgiveness.

She gets money instead

 

[TwinTurbo]

That's pretty powerful stuff, especially the picture of the two mothers.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Shark move in letting him think he was gonna die until the last second.

The fact that she receives money for pardoning him makes it less moving though. I don't know any more than is relayed in that story, but it's every bit as possible this was an extreme act of greed as it is that it was an extreme act of forgiveness.

 

[CurlyNight]

Shark move in letting him think he was gonna die until the last second.

The fact that she receives money for pardoning him makes it less moving though. I don't know any more than is relayed in that story, but it's every bit as possible this was an extreme act of greed as it is that it was an extreme act of forgiveness.

Wrong! First, the relationship between mother and child is even higher over there because of how they look at their kids. Similar to the asian culture. You don't abandon your kids when they do something terrible or kick them out at 18 like is typically done here. They would rather die themselves first. Not saying many folks aren't like this in this country, but there is a cultural difference.

It's not uncommon in that culture for the sons to be supporting their parents financially even if dad is still working. At the very least, you have the funeral costs. Everything in Iran is very very expensive so any loss in income hits harder than it would here. So how is this different in people in this country receiving compensation for wrongful deaths of loved ones? There is no $ price on a life but something is better than nothing when a loved one is taken from you like that. That's hardly considered greedy.

 

[Koya]

Shark move in letting him think he was gonna die until the last second.

The fact that she receives money for pardoning him makes it less moving though. I don't know any more than is relayed in that story, but it's every bit as possible this was an extreme act of greed as it is that it was an extreme act of forgiveness.

Wrong! First, the relationship between mother and child is even higher over there because of how they look at their kids. Similar to the asian culture. You don't abandon your kids when they do something terrible or kick them out at 18 like is typically done here. They would rather die themselves first. Not saying many folks aren't like this in this country, but there is a cultural difference.It's not uncommon in that culture for the sons to be supporting their parents financially even if dad is still working. At the very least, you have the funeral costs. Everything in Iran is very very expensive so any loss in income hits harder than it would here. So how is this different in people in this country receiving compensation for wrongful deaths of loved ones? There is no $ price on a life but something is better than nothing when a loved one is taken from you like that. That's hardly considered greedy.

What a nice, Pollyanna story you got there.

I thought this was a supreme act of forgiveness.

But, Ninja please ... We are all human, in the end.

 

[proninja]

to one person that didn't get killed

 

[cstu]

She told Shargh that her son Abdollah appeared to her in a dream and asked her to forgive his killer, and still she was reluctant. She said that in her speech at the gallows, she scolded the crowd for pressuring her to forgive, saying: “Do you know what I have gone through all these years and how my life became like poison?”

But after Bilal pleaded to her — and she slapped him — “I felt at ease” and forgave him, she said.

Bilal will serve a prison sentence instead of being executed, according to the newspaper.

 

[rockaction]

Perhaps it's late night and I'm grumpy, but johnjohn's point about one person being able to forgive a killer and remove his sentence seems, at best, like a little relativism, at worst, a judicial travesty.

Then again, presidential pardons, so what the heck, right?

eta* I meant I actually agree with johnjohn on his first point.

 

[Henry Ford]

Perhaps it's late night and I'm grumpy, but johnjohn's point about one person being able to forgive a killer and remove his sentence seems, at best, like a little relativism, at worst, a judicial travesty.

Then again, presidential pardons, so what the heck, right?

eta* I meant I actually agree with johnjohn on his first point.

I often think that the victim's desires aren't taken enough into account in this country.

I don't know ho long the guy will now spend on prison, but a death sentence is more for the closure in the mind of the victims/families that. Anyone else. Life or close to it in prison is pretty bad. Especially in Iran.

 

[rockaction]

Perhaps it's late night and I'm grumpy, but johnjohn's point about one person being able to forgive a killer and remove his sentence seems, at best, like a little relativism, at worst, a judicial travesty.

Then again, presidential pardons, so what the heck, right?

eta* I meant I actually agree with johnjohn on his first point.

I often think that the victim's desires aren't taken enough into account in this country.

I don't know ho long the guy will now spend on prison, but a death sentence is more for the closure in the mind of the victims/families that. Anyone else. Life or close to it in prison is pretty bad. Especially in Iran.

I agree, but I wonder if there weren't other victims. Friends, acquaintances, others whose life meant something to them. Also, deterrence as a theory.

Vesting power in one person like that just strikes me as limited and backward, for lack of a better word.

Also, I'm no big fan of Iranian justice and the adultery accusations -- sans trial -- that can result in a public stoning or burying.

But I still take your point. I'm really saying that a purported picture of compassion wasn't so much to me. My immediate reaction was one that wasn't in line with the intended effect.