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Vikes need Culpepper more than any other NFL team. Culpepper best chance of being a starting QB in the NFL lies with Minnesota.

However, human nature won't let it happen.

 
If you want to extend the irony further, how about reports that Culpepper may land in Oakland, following Randy Moss' departure.

 
Vikes need Culpepper more than any other NFL team. Culpepper best chance of being a starting QB in the NFL lies with Minnesota.However, human nature won't let it happen.
i thought the same thing. how much bad blood is between them?
 
Vikes need Culpepper more than any other NFL team. Culpepper best chance of being a starting QB in the NFL lies with Minnesota.

However, human nature won't let it happen.
i thought the same thing. how much bad blood is between them?
Culpepper would have to come crawling back on his reconstructed knees with crocodile tears in his eyes and profess to Childress that he was wrong and he wants Childress to be his daddy.Daunte blew Childress off. Asked the Vikings to re-work his $100 million contract he signed 2 years prior to squeeze them out of a couple more million after the fact that he tore up his knee after having the worst start of his pro career through 6 games into the 2005 season. Never checked in with the Vike's doctors and was threatening a hold out/trade me before he even had a phone conversation with the new coach.

That's some of it.

 
OK, time for a little positive support for the Vikings!

The trades of Culpepper and Moss were criticized at length on these boards, but it is obvious they got top value out of each of them and should be commended. Regardless of how you think the draft picks turned out (I think Williamson will be a good player and Ryan Cook is starting at RT this season - Nap Harris signed a relatively good deal in KC and played above average last season) they did get top dollar for these guys while ridding themselves of their monster contracts. Great moves.

 
Vikes need Culpepper more than any other NFL team. Culpepper best chance of being a starting QB in the NFL lies with Minnesota.However, human nature won't let it happen.
Why in the world would we want this train wreck back in Minny? I didn't enjoy watching him fail the first time and wouldn't enjoy the rerun either.
 
FunkyPlutos said:
OK, time for a little positive support for the Vikings!The trades of Culpepper and Moss were criticized at length on these boards, but it is obvious they got top value out of each of them and should be commended. Regardless of how you think the draft picks turned out (I think Williamson will be a good player and Ryan Cook is starting at RT this season - Nap Harris signed a relatively good deal in KC and played above average last season) they did get top dollar for these guys while ridding themselves of their monster contracts. Great moves.
If they would have taken DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman instead of Troy Williamson and taken Devin Hester instead of Ryan Cook (the 2nd round pick for Culpepper) then we would have completely fleeced the Raiders and Dolphins. As it stands, the Vikings did a poor job with their selections. Williamson and Cook might be OK eventually. but adding Merriman and Hester would have been incredible, and the Vikings did need DE's/LB's badly (they took Erasmus James at 19).
 
FunkyPlutos said:
OK, time for a little positive support for the Vikings!The trades of Culpepper and Moss were criticized at length on these boards, but it is obvious they got top value out of each of them and should be commended. Regardless of how you think the draft picks turned out (I think Williamson will be a good player and Ryan Cook is starting at RT this season - Nap Harris signed a relatively good deal in KC and played above average last season) they did get top dollar for these guys while ridding themselves of their monster contracts. Great moves.
If they would have taken DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman instead of Troy Williamson and taken Devin Hester instead of Ryan Cook (the 2nd round pick for Culpepper) then we would have completely fleeced the Raiders and Dolphins. As it stands, the Vikings did a poor job with their selections. Williamson and Cook might be OK eventually. but adding Merriman and Hester would have been incredible, and the Vikings did need DE's/LB's badly (they took Erasmus James at 19).
The jury's still out on Cook. I personally think he'll be a good starter at RT for years to come.As far as CPep returning to Minnesota... I think there's a better chance of me getting involved in a three way with my wife and Charlize Theron.
 
If they would have taken DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman instead of Troy Williamson and taken Devin Hester instead of Ryan Cook (the 2nd round pick for Culpepper) then we would have completely fleeced the Raiders and Dolphins. As it stands, the Vikings did a poor job with their selections. Williamson and Cook might be OK eventually. but adding Merriman and Hester would have been incredible, and the Vikings did need DE's/LB's badly (they took Erasmus James at 19).
There is a bit of a fallacy here, which is that known players are worth more than draft picks, precisely because it's hard to use draft picks well. Yes, the Vikings could have made selections which might have worked out better, but when evaluating the value of a draft pick vs. a player on your roster you have to consider the possibility that your pick will bust (which is easily a 50% chance).
 
C-Peps value to ANY team is on a minimum vet deal for 2 years. I've read the reports about the progressing knee health, and don't believe the Fins' would let him go if they were 100% true.

Two year deal at the minimum to see if there is any CHANCE he makes it back, working out in a strip mall may be the wrong method to rehabbing for an NFL player...

 
FunkyPlutos said:
OK, time for a little positive support for the Vikings!The trades of Culpepper and Moss were criticized at length on these boards, but it is obvious they got top value out of each of them and should be commended. Regardless of how you think the draft picks turned out (I think Williamson will be a good player and Ryan Cook is starting at RT this season - Nap Harris signed a relatively good deal in KC and played above average last season) they did get top dollar for these guys while ridding themselves of their monster contracts. Great moves.
If they would have taken DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman instead of Troy Williamson and taken Devin Hester instead of Ryan Cook (the 2nd round pick for Culpepper) then we would have completely fleeced the Raiders and Dolphins. As it stands, the Vikings did a poor job with their selections. Williamson and Cook might be OK eventually. but adding Merriman and Hester would have been incredible, and the Vikings did need DE's/LB's badly (they took Erasmus James at 19).
The jury's still out on Cook. I personally think he'll be a good starter at RT for years to come.As far as CPep returning to Minnesota... I think there's a better chance of me getting involved in a three way with my wife and Charlize Theron.
Agreed, but good luck to you anyway.
 
The jury's still out on Cook. I personally think he'll be a good starter at RT for years to come.As far as CPep returning to Minnesota... I think there's a better chance of me getting involved in a three way with my wife and Charlize Theron.
Over-rated. Been there, done that. Didn't ya know? I'm a FBG!I applaud your choice in women Andy.
 
FunkyPlutos said:
OK, time for a little positive support for the Vikings!The trades of Culpepper and Moss were criticized at length on these boards, but it is obvious they got top value out of each of them and should be commended. Regardless of how you think the draft picks turned out (I think Williamson will be a good player and Ryan Cook is starting at RT this season - Nap Harris signed a relatively good deal in KC and played above average last season) they did get top dollar for these guys while ridding themselves of their monster contracts. Great moves.
If they would have taken DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman instead of Troy Williamson and taken Devin Hester instead of Ryan Cook (the 2nd round pick for Culpepper) then we would have completely fleeced the Raiders and Dolphins. As it stands, the Vikings did a poor job with their selections. Williamson and Cook might be OK eventually. but adding Merriman and Hester would have been incredible, and the Vikings did need DE's/LB's badly (they took Erasmus James at 19).
The jury's still out on Cook. I personally think he'll be a good starter at RT for years to come.As far as CPep returning to Minnesota... I think there's a better chance of me getting involved in a three way with my wife and Charlize Theron.
Agreed, but good luck to you anyway.
I think the performance anxiety would lead to much disappointment for all parties. :thumbup:Anyway...back to the CPep discussion. I think he's played his last down of meaningful football. I've said all along that the bigger problem than his knee is his head. I don't think he's mentally strong enough to handle being discarded by a second franchise.
 
As far as CPep returning to Minnesota... I think there's a better chance of me getting involved in a three way with my wife and Charlize Theron.
Well, at least you're half way there - right?
One third. :bag:
:bag: ...... :goodposting: Maybe your wife would be more into it if the last third was George Clooney? Not ideal for you, but at least it's a start. Just trying to help - you can thank me later. :D

Back on topic, I agree with the majority of the Minny fans (it seems) in that Culpepper's previous success was more related to the team he was on than his own abilities. I don't see him being a productive QB in the NFL again.

 
FunkyPlutos said:
OK, time for a little positive support for the Vikings!The trades of Culpepper and Moss were criticized at length on these boards, but it is obvious they got top value out of each of them and should be commended. Regardless of how you think the draft picks turned out (I think Williamson will be a good player and Ryan Cook is starting at RT this season - Nap Harris signed a relatively good deal in KC and played above average last season) they did get top dollar for these guys while ridding themselves of their monster contracts. Great moves.
If they would have taken DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman instead of Troy Williamson and taken Devin Hester instead of Ryan Cook (the 2nd round pick for Culpepper) then we would have completely fleeced the Raiders and Dolphins. As it stands, the Vikings did a poor job with their selections. Williamson and Cook might be OK eventually. but adding Merriman and Hester would have been incredible, and the Vikings did need DE's/LB's badly (they took Erasmus James at 19).
The players you drafted with those selections have nothing to do with what value you got. They got rid of both at not quite peak value, but considering the contracts that they had the team had to take what they could get. The only team that might have gotten fleeced in either deal might me Miami, as they were sold damaged goods.
 
Culpepper to the Lions, sits for a year and gets healthy. Then for the next 5 years he throws the ball to Williams and CJ, a fantasy stud once more. Yes I am a Culpepper owner :shrug: , I can dream :moneybag: .

 
jestertj said:
Weiner Dog said:
Vikes need Culpepper more than any other NFL team. Culpepper best chance of being a starting QB in the NFL lies with Minnesota.However, human nature won't let it happen.
Why in the world would we want this train wreck back in Minny? I didn't enjoy watching him fail the first time and wouldn't enjoy the rerun either.
...and who says Culpepper would want to play for the Vikes. :thumbup: Human nature runs both directions. In all reality, who's in worse shape...Culpepper or the Vikes?? I have not liked Culpepper for quite awhile now, but one could argue he personally has more upside than a previous 6-10 team now starting TJax.
 
Why would anyone be interested in Culpepper as a starter? He will probably command too much to be a backup, and from the quotes, he doesn't seem to be the type of guy who would go quietly when a rook or young player is inserted for him.

Guy made his living playing in an extremely explosive offense, tossing balls to Randy Moss, playing behind a dominant O Line. His running ability was an assett. Now he has a blown out knee, and he has never been a good pure passer. Makes terrible decisions with the ball.

 
Guy made his living playing in an extremely explosive offense, tossing balls to Randy Moss, playing behind a dominant O Line. His running ability was an assett. Now he has a blown out knee, and he has never been a good pure passer. Makes terrible decisions with the ball.
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| 2004 min |  16 |   379   548  69.2  4717   8.6  39  11 |	89   406   2 |
This is one of the most dominant statistical seasons for a passer in NFL history. #5 for yardage, #5 for TDs, all time, with 69.2% completions and just 11 INTs.Randy Moss that season had just 49 receptions for 767 yards.I don't think you can write off Culpepper.
 
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Guy made his living playing in an extremely explosive offense, tossing balls to Randy Moss, playing behind a dominant O Line. His running ability was an assett. Now he has a blown out knee, and he has never been a good pure passer. Makes terrible decisions with the ball.
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| 2004 min |  16 |   379   548  69.2  4717   8.6  39  11 |	89   406   2 |
This is one of the most dominant statistical seasons for a passer in NFL history. #5 for yardage, #5 for TDs, all time, with 69.2% completions and just 11 INTs.Randy Moss that season had just 49 receptions for 767 yards.I don't think you can write off Culpepper.
Calbear, Moss did have 13 TD receptions that year.
 
If you want to extend the irony further, how about reports that Culpepper may land in Oakland, following Randy Moss' departure.
What I think it kind of funny in all of this is how the Vikings were SAVAGED for their deals of Culpepper and Moss. Now, a couple years later, Culpepper and Moss are both going to be dumped for a LOT less than the Vikings received for them after posting EXTREMELY disappointing stats for their new respective teams.That type of observation obviously shows my :horns:, but I just wish all those haters out there who said that the Vikings gave away the farm would come back and say "yep, maybe those trades weren't so bad after all." As a Vikings fan, I've SEEN giving away the farm (flashback to the Herschel Walker trade). :towelwave:
 

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