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Did you even read the article that he linked to? This goes beyond the same ol idiot Irvin stuff. This is whole new level of foot in mouth.
I am of the belief that the minority should be able to speak out more than the majority because by definition they are at a huge disadvantage no matter how you slice it. That being said, Irvin is an idiot! I can't believe he still has a job as he argues over everyone else and is just flat out annoying. Worse, he rarely brings any insight to the game as he doesn't objectively look at anything.
This may be the most accurate statement written here about Irvin.
That may be true, but I'm still trying to figure out what all of this has to do with Irving Fryar.This may be the most accurate statement written here about Irvin.
You forgot about Sanders too.....
You're right, but I'd have to caveat that with blathering, self-loathing buffoonery.
ditto. except it's Irvin.
I live in DFW so I have no excuse -- just a typo.
It's obvious to me that ESPN hired him -- and keeps him -- because he creates controversy. He gets people talking about him and folks tune in to see what outrageous trash will come spewing out of his big mouth. (Personally, I'm also offended by his gawd-awful clothes.) And guess what: that's just what ESPN wants! I tune in to see if Tom Jackson or Mike Ditka is going to strangle him.Liquid Tension said:
Actually I thought we were talking about Dr J.Canadian Law said:That may be true, but I'm still trying to figure out what all of this has to do with Irving Fryar.Phase of the Game said:This may be the most accurate statement written here about Irvin.Liquid Tension said:
Thanks, I corrected it.
agreed. Jimmy the Greek says "I'm telling you the black is the better athlete" and it was like the OJ trial riots. OK, not that bad. But you get my drift.Irvin is an ignorant idiot with big ### ties and I can't fathom how he gets caught with a weed pipe in his car and he gets away with the 'it belonged to my friend" rap. Totally absurd and inconsistent.
lol.Funny since that's why they hired Rush....who was immediately axed and further villified for FAR less racist remarks. In fact, his remarks weren't even racist (he accused others of being racist). But Irvin will get a wrist-slap at most. Wake up people; this is America. Where you been? How is it surprising that the reaction he gets from this is nothing compared to what someone would have gotten if a white guy make some similarly racist comment about a black guy? The Great American Double-Standard continues to thrive
And lol @ "he was hired because he creates controversy" - he was hired because he is extremely popular among blacks. And until now, what came spewing out of his big mouth wasn't "outrageous trash" - just mindless gibberish.No wait my bad, he's an insightful commentator and awesome role model to boot - good move ESPN Just another day in hood
Verylol.Funny since that's why they hired Rush....who was immediately axed and further villified for FAR less racist remarks. In fact, his remarks weren't even racist (he accused others of being racist). But Irvin will get a wrist-slap at most. Wake up people; this is America. Where you been? How is it surprising that the reaction he gets from this is nothing compared to what someone would have gotten if a white guy make some similarly racist comment about a black guy? The Great American Double-Standard continues to thrive
Yeah its all good for a big Mike to make slavery jokes. Mike personifies the type of guy to talk S*it and be the first on line to crucify a non-black if he made an outrageous statement like this. This type of stuff really hasd no business in an on air sports discussion. I read another article where Dan Patrick and Olberman were utterly embarassed by Ivin.
Other than knowing it wouldnt fly the other way, the ignorant race stuff doesnt bug me.As some have pointed out however, the problem many of us have with ESPN was that at one time it was "all about the sports". Its turning into MTV meets the WWF over there and its such a shame. It started with Stu Scott and the decline continues as they dumb down their broadcasts to reach a different demographic. Remember the days of sitting in front of the tv for 90 minutes of pre-game with actual reports and analysis? When it was only Berman with the shtick it was tolerable, but its become nothing more than noise. Its why I had high hopes from the NFL Network. For the last several years the only ESPN programming I watch aside from a game is Edge NFL Matchup/NFL Tonight and even that isnt what it used to be, IMO.
This may be the only time the words "thinks", "analysis" and "interesting" have been used to describe Irvin's yap. Unless of course this was borrowed from the ESPN promo guide.Look at the bright side, Irvin could be teamed up with Vitale doing college bb games.
First, I heard it live and both Dan Patrick and his co-host backed off the statement so fast you could hear their chairs falling over. Both of them KNEW it was the wrong thing to say immediately. Can't remember what is was, but he said something else in that interview that was off-color (no pun intended) and they basically hung up the phone on him right after.Saying something like that is not machismo. Its ignorant. Amongst friends is one thing. I have no problem joking about something like that with my black friends and would have no problem with them saying something like that to me. But not on public radio. That was the wrong message to send regardless of his race.It may be he was shooting for controversy. It may be that he was shooting for humor. But what he found IMO ws unprofessional and reprehensable.BTW, the comment was in reference to a basketball game he had played against Romo and he was justifying why he lost. 'Cause Romo must be black somewhere along the line. Just dumb and in the end, all about himself and his own insecurity.
We could probably debate if Irvin has enough brain power to think.
Extremely well said. And much as I hate ESPN, I'm amazed anyone watches any pre/post-game these days, to tell the truth. It's almost entirely just goofball stupidity and babbling.
Im not sure if you were refering to Deon in a positive way ,if so i agree i like Deon as a Analyst.
