Is 2007 the year to go WR early? (1 Viewer)

[GOroute]

I dont want to get too complex on this subject, but after LT2 & S.Jax are gone, what rb's are worth #3. LJ if he signs, but dont sell me on Addai, Henry, Westbrook, Bush, Parker being worth that high of a draft pick. I am not saying those guys are bad, but they are not worthy of the pick in the 3-6 range.

Why not get your rb's later like in rds 2-4 while everyone else is getting 2nd rb's and 1st & 2nd wr's.

Steve Smith, T.Holt, Wayne, Chad Johnson

I am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

 

[gianmarco]

I dont want to get too complex on this subject, but after LT2 & S.Jax are gone, what rb's are worth #3. LJ if he signs, but dont sell me on Addai, Henry, Westbrook, Bush, Parker being worth that high of a draft pick. I am not saying those guys are bad, but they are not worthy of the pick in the 3-6 range.

Why not get your rb's later like in rds 2-4 while everyone else is getting 2nd rb's and 1st & 2nd wr's.

Steve Smith, T.Holt, Wayne, Chad Johnson

I am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

So Smith, Holt, or CJ is worthy of the #3 pick overall? Especially when you can get the same guy at the end of the 2nd? That makes 0 sense.

 

[Blackjacks]

So your saying that Henry, Westbrook and Addai aren't good enough to go that early but Steve Smith or Chad Johnson are worthy of that pick?

 

[GOroute]

No, I am not saying they are worthy of that pick, but the debate is interesting. No one is worthy of that pick- but using expert rankings, if you took S.Smith at #4 this could be your 1st 3 picks:

1.04 - S.Smith

2.09 - C.Portis

3.04 - C.Benson

-that looks solid to me and you now have a top 3 wr

vs the 5pick who took a rb:

1.05 - Gore

2.08 - Fitzgerald

3.05 - T.Jones

How different are these teams. 1 guy took a rb early, the other didnt. In previous years if you had the 4th pick and didnt take LJ or Alex or LT2 you were a moron and lost the league because of it. This yr it would be pure look if the rb you took at 4 or 5 had an LT/Alex like year.

That's the thought.

 

[weasel3515]

I think this might be a good year to go WR-WR if you draft in the lower half of a draft, after LT, LJ, Jackson, Gore, Alexander and Addai are off the board. Steve Smith, Torry Holt and CJ could all put up numbers comparable to the next tier of RBs if you include PPR.

 

[Blackjacks]

No, I am not saying they are worthy of that pick, but the debate is interesting. No one is worthy of that pick- but using expert rankings, if you took S.Smith at #4 this could be your 1st 3 picks:1.04 - S.Smith2.09 - C.Portis3.04 - C.Benson-that looks solid to me and you now have a top 3 wrvs the 5pick who took a rb:1.05 - Gore2.08 - Fitzgerald3.05 - T.JonesHow different are these teams. 1 guy took a rb early, the other didnt. In previous years if you had the 4th pick and didnt take LJ or Alex or LT2 you were a moron and lost the league because of it. This yr it would be pure look if the rb you took at 4 or 5 had an LT/Alex like year.That's the thought.

I'd rather go Henry, Holt, Benson but that's just me.

 

[jurb26]

No, I am not saying they are worthy of that pick, but the debate is interesting. No one is worthy of that pick- but using expert rankings, if you took S.Smith at #4 this could be your 1st 3 picks:1.04 - S.Smith2.09 - C.Portis3.04 - C.Benson-that looks solid to me and you now have a top 3 wrvs the 5pick who took a rb:1.05 - Gore2.08 - Fitzgerald3.05 - T.JonesHow different are these teams. 1 guy took a rb early, the other didnt. In previous years if you had the 4th pick and didnt take LJ or Alex or LT2 you were a moron and lost the league because of it. This yr it would be pure look if the rb you took at 4 or 5 had an LT/Alex like year.That's the thought.

I'd still rather have:1.04 - Gore2.09 - Portis3.04 - Roy Williams/Javon WalkerSure, yours looks like a solid team. This looks like a Championship team though.

 

[Hammerage]

No, I am not saying they are worthy of that pick, but the debate is interesting. No one is worthy of that pick- but using expert rankings, if you took S.Smith at #4 this could be your 1st 3 picks:1.04 - S.Smith2.09 - C.Portis3.04 - C.Benson-that looks solid to me and you now have a top 3 wrvs the 5pick who took a rb:1.05 - Gore2.08 - Fitzgerald3.05 - T.JonesHow different are these teams. 1 guy took a rb early, the other didnt. In previous years if you had the 4th pick and didnt take LJ or Alex or LT2 you were a moron and lost the league because of it. This yr it would be pure look if the rb you took at 4 or 5 had an LT/Alex like year.That's the thought.

Depends if you are in PPR or not. In non-PPR if you are in the middle rounds like the above example you are likely to get Steve Smith, TO, or Harrison in the second and have Gore or LJ. To me I would rather have the RB and the WR. I have done a couple drafts just like that this year. In fact almost anywhere in the second you can have a stud WR if you want it. In fact near the top you may get lucky and grab 2 at the turn like Holt/Wayne. If I am in the middle of the pack in the second I think it is a good year to grab a wide. Then take best value in the 3rd or a solid 2nd RB like Benson, Deuce or such.

 

[tomarken]

I am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

Unfortunately it never begs the question - not this year or any other. Taking a WR that early makes absolutely no sense unless you have a crazy league setup.

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

I think your premise is good, but your conclusion is wrong. This may be the year to take Manning 3-6. IMO, there is no top tier WRs this year, but I do agree that the 2nd and 3rd tier RBs are deep and available later.

 

[nygiants56]

I dont want to get too complex on this subject, but after LT2 & S.Jax are gone, what rb's are worth #3. LJ if he signs, but dont sell me on Addai, Henry, Westbrook, Bush, Parker being worth that high of a draft pick. I am not saying those guys are bad, but they are not worthy of the pick in the 3-6 range.Why not get your rb's later like in rds 2-4 while everyone else is getting 2nd rb's and 1st & 2nd wr's.Steve Smith, T.Holt, Wayne, Chad JohnsonI am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

RB's like Henry et al, are going to see upwards of 300 carries, plus another 30+ receptions. the workload a RB gets is much greater than a WR. Steve Smith is more likely to go 6-66-0, then Henry is to go rush for 10-42-0 in any game..So many factors go in into select a WR early, that its a scary proposition. First, the QB needs time to throw, needs the up-front protection. The WR has to get open. the ball has to be on target or close enough to be caught , without being intercepted.a RB takes a handoff and follows his blockers. its MUCH easier for a RB to score fantasy pts than it is for any WR

 

[gianmarco]

Especially with the depth at WR this year for the elite level. There are arguably 8 or 9 guys that are gonna be pretty close together.

 

[GOroute]

I think your premise is good, but your conclusion is wrong. This may be the year to take Manning 3-6. IMO, there is no top tier WRs this year, but I do agree that the 2nd and 3rd tier RBs are deep and available later.

good point and i meant to put manning in this as well, but that would depend on how qb's score.

 

[Keg]

I think this might be a good year to go WR-WR if you draft in the lower half of a draft, after LT, LJ, Jackson, Gore, Alexander and Addai are off the board. Steve Smith, Torry Holt and CJ could all put up numbers comparable to the next tier of RBs if you include PPR.

i pulled the 12 slot in a recent draft with WCOFF Rules and I started WR WR then went RB RB(I almost went RB/WR(boldin))...then followed that up with RB WRSSmithChadJohnsonThomas JonesCaddyMBarberLColesNow this draft does have one twist in that its a draft and you are done and it then becomes a best lineup league...with that said I waited on QBs(in hindsight probably a round to late)Just in case anyone is interested in how the draft turned out:Garcia, Harrington, Tavaris Jackson(i almost decided to not draft any QBs to see how many wins i could get without that position)Thomas Jones, Caddy, MBarber, CBrown, LBooker, PittmanSSmith, CJ, Coles, MarkClayton, Santonio Holmes, PPriceVDavis, DMartinKasay, JBrown, NedneySD, NEand there are still 3 rounds to go...a couple of other FBGs are also in this draft...fwiw there was one guy that took FIVE QBs in the 1st 9 rounds...yes NINE that wasnt a typo...he started Gore, Harrison/TO then FIVE of his next 6 picks were QBs

 

[RabidRabbit]

Moronic.

One, there is always the chance (and it really is not a chance at all) that the RB you take at #3 could bust out and be awesome.

The WR you take will never ever ever put up #'s comparable to a top 3 RB. NEVER.

So you make the best educated guess as to what RB is going to explode for big #'s.

I need people with quackery thoughts like this to draft with me in a big $ league.

Taking LJ, Gore, Alexander and Addai, even Willie Parker is better than Steve "Hamstrung" Smith. There were at least 13 RB's that scored more pts than Smith did last year and 3/4 WR's.

REACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RabidRabbit]

I think this might be a good year to go WR-WR if you draft in the lower half of a draft, after LT, LJ, Jackson, Gore, Alexander and Addai are off the board. Steve Smith, Torry Holt and CJ could all put up numbers comparable to the next tier of RBs if you include PPR.

i pulled the 12 slot in a recent draft with WCOFF Rules and I started WR WR then went RB RB(I almost went RB/WR(boldin))...then followed that up with RB WRSSmithChadJohnsonThomas JonesCaddyMBarberLColesNow this draft does have one twist in that its a draft and you are done and it then becomes a best lineup league...with that said I waited on QBs(in hindsight probably a round to late)Just in case anyone is interested in how the draft turned out:Garcia, Harrington, Tavaris Jackson(i almost decided to not draft any QBs to see how many wins i could get without that position)Thomas Jones, Caddy, MBarber, CBrown, LBooker, PittmanSSmith, CJ, Coles, MarkClayton, Santonio Holmes, PPriceVDavis, DMartinKasay, JBrown, NedneySD, NEand there are still 3 rounds to go...a couple of other FBGs are also in this draft...fwiw there was one guy that took FIVE QBs in the 1st 9 rounds...yes NINE that wasnt a typo...he started Gore, Harrison/TO then FIVE of his next 6 picks were QBs

I dunno WCOFF rules, but that team sucks, unless you are getting 2 pts per reception. Then I'd still say it sucks despite my last sentence. Whoa bringin' out the crazies with this thread.

 

[JHuber77]

This year, Top wideouts are very deep, any one of those top 10-12 could be #1 by the end of the year. TE's are also very deep this year.

 

[Paranoia]

I am drafting 2nd in a 12 team ppr league. I have 1.2, 2.23, 3.26, 4.47, 5.50 and am thinking of going RB, RB, RB, WR. I figure Benson, Edge, Jacobs, Thomas Jones and maybe Ronnie Brown will be available in the late 2nd and early 3rd round, especially if there is a rush for wideouts in the 2nd round.

So, Stevie Jax in the first, then two of those backs in the second and third could create a huge backfield that would be tough to deal with given that other teams would have a lesser RB2s than my flex RB/WR position. With that strategy I feel I will take the best WR available at 47 and wait to see which position is strongest TE, QB, WR at 50. With three strong backs this strategy relies heavily on a deep WR field and trying to get by with minimal production from QB and TE positions.

That said, if 3 of 5 of the aforementioned backs are gone by pick 23 then I will probably have either three other top WRs fall to me or Gates/Heap in the late 2nd and early third. Given that situation I would go RB/WR/WR or TE with my first four picks.

:shootingcraps:

 

[The Man with the Plan]

2007 is the year to draft good players. Just like every other year. I hate it when people making these rules saying they have to do something (ex:draft two running backs in the 1st 2 rounds) out of fear that you're somehow missing out on players. Afraid that there might not be quality players left over (which every year proves not to be the case).

Fear leads to panic. Panic leads to confusion. Confusion leads to potentially missing out on incredible value because you had to do something a certain way.

 

[Keg]

I think this might be a good year to go WR-WR if you draft in the lower half of a draft, after LT, LJ, Jackson, Gore, Alexander and Addai are off the board. Steve Smith, Torry Holt and CJ could all put up numbers comparable to the next tier of RBs if you include PPR.

i pulled the 12 slot in a recent draft with WCOFF Rules and I started WR WR then went RB RB(I almost went RB/WR(boldin))...then followed that up with RB WRSSmith

ChadJohnson

Thomas Jones

Caddy

MBarber

LColes

Now this draft does have one twist in that its a draft and you are done and it then becomes a best lineup league...with that said I waited on QBs(in hindsight probably a round to late)

Just in case anyone is interested in how the draft turned out:

Garcia, Harrington, Tavaris Jackson(i almost decided to not draft any QBs to see how many wins i could get without that position)

Thomas Jones, Caddy, MBarber, CBrown, LBooker, Pittman

SSmith, CJ, Coles, MarkClayton, Santonio Holmes, PPrice

VDavis, DMartin

Kasay, JBrown, Nedney

SD, NE

and there are still 3 rounds to go...a couple of other FBGs are also in this draft...fwiw there was one guy that took FIVE QBs in the 1st 9 rounds...yes NINE that wasnt a typo...he started Gore, Harrison/TO then FIVE of his next 6 picks were QBs

I dunno WCOFF rules, but that team sucks, unless you are getting 2 pts per reception. Then I'd still say it sucks despite my last sentence. Whoa bringin' out the crazies with this thread.

Crazy is as Crazy Does, like commenting on a team based on scoring and starting requirements you know nothing about but i will humor you and let you tell me why that team sucks

 

[GOroute]

Moronic. One, there is always the chance (and it really is not a chance at all) that the RB you take at #3 could bust out and be awesome.The WR you take will never ever ever put up #'s comparable to a top 3 RB. NEVER.So you make the best educated guess as to what RB is going to explode for big #'s.I need people with quackery thoughts like this to draft with me in a big $ league. Taking LJ, Gore, Alexander and Addai, even Willie Parker is better than Steve "Hamstrung" Smith. There were at least 13 RB's that scored more pts than Smith did last year and 3/4 WR's. REACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please come to my money league. Oh wait, all of my leagues are money leagues. Win or place in all of em.

 

[Sabertooth]

No, I am not saying they are worthy of that pick, but the debate is interesting. No one is worthy of that pick- but using expert rankings, if you took S.Smith at #4 this could be your 1st 3 picks:1.04 - S.Smith2.09 - C.Portis3.04 - C.Benson-that looks solid to me and you now have a top 3 wrvs the 5pick who took a rb:1.05 - Gore2.08 - Fitzgerald3.05 - T.JonesHow different are these teams. 1 guy took a rb early, the other didnt. In previous years if you had the 4th pick and didnt take LJ or Alex or LT2 you were a moron and lost the league because of it. This yr it would be pure look if the rb you took at 4 or 5 had an LT/Alex like year.That's the thought.

Wow. You do understand the 2005 and 2006 were NFL record seasons right? And you understand that those records are in fact records because nobody has EVER been able to score that many touchdowns in a season EVER before right? And you realize the LT2 has dissappointed tons of owners late in the season by averaging less than 10 ppg in week 16 through the last two seasons?

 

[Keg]

Moronic.

One, there is always the chance (and it really is not a chance at all) that the RB you take at #3 could bust out and be awesome.

The WR you take will never ever ever put up #'s comparable to a top 3 RB. NEVER.

So you make the best educated guess as to what RB is going to explode for big #'s.

I need people with quackery thoughts like this to draft with me in a big $ league.

Taking LJ, Gore, Alexander and Addai, even Willie Parker is better than Steve "Hamstrung" Smith. There were at least 13 RB's that scored more pts than Smith did last year and 3/4 WR's.

REACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

on a PPG basis only 9 RBs scored more and only 1 WR scored more

 

[Sabertooth]

2007 is the year to draft good players. Just like every other year. I hate it when people making these rules saying they have to do something (ex:draft two running backs in the 1st 2 rounds) out of fear that you're somehow missing out on players. Afraid that there might not be quality players left over (which every year proves not to be the case). Fear leads to panic. Panic leads to confusion. Confusion leads to potentially missing out on incredible value because you had to do something a certain way.

I thought confusion lead to Suff---er---ing.

 

[David Yudkin]

Before people go out and start gobbling up WRs, bear in mind that top tier WR scoring has been on the DOWNSWING the past few years and that the guys near the top of rotated more than ever.

If someone projected in the Top 5 or Top 10 misses the mark even a little, that player could plummet 20+ spots in the rankings in a heartbeat. While loading up on WRs may seem like the trendy thing to do, I would say that people need to chose wisely or else they may end up with several WR2s with second and third round picks.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

This is nothing more than a variation on the "RBs seem deeper this year so I'm gonna wait to take one" threads that get started EVERY PRESEASON.

If you wanna draft Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne or whatever at #4 overall, be my guest.

If you are really down on the #3 spot, trade up to #1 or #2. Or trade down to the bottom of the first.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Moronic.

One, there is always the chance (and it really is not a chance at all) that the RB you take at #3 could bust out and be awesome.

The WR you take will never ever ever put up #'s comparable to a top 3 RB. NEVER.

So you make the best educated guess as to what RB is going to explode for big #'s.

I need people with quackery thoughts like this to draft with me in a big $ league.

Taking LJ, Gore, Alexander and Addai, even Willie Parker is better than Steve "Hamstrung" Smith. There were at least 13 RB's that scored more pts than Smith did last year and 3/4 WR's.

REACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its how much your player outscores another player at his same position, not compared to other positions. I think this year because of the continuing shift to RBBC its good to get a stud WR in the second round. There are only 10-12 RB's worth a first round pick. If those guys are gone .... nothing wrong with going WR.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Before people go out and start gobbling up WRs, bear in mind that top tier WR scoring has been on the DOWNSWING the past few years and that the guys near the top of rotated more than ever.If someone projected in the Top 5 or Top 10 misses the mark even a little, that player could plummet 20+ spots in the rankings in a heartbeat. While loading up on WRs may seem like the trendy thing to do, I would say that people need to chose wisely or else they may end up with several WR2s with second and third round picks.

So you would rather have MJD, Portis, Benson, McGahee over Smith, Chad Johnson, Owens, or Harrison?

 

[Sabertooth]

Before people go out and start gobbling up WRs, bear in mind that top tier WR scoring has been on the DOWNSWING the past few years and that the guys near the top of rotated more than ever.If someone projected in the Top 5 or Top 10 misses the mark even a little, that player could plummet 20+ spots in the rankings in a heartbeat. While loading up on WRs may seem like the trendy thing to do, I would say that people need to chose wisely or else they may end up with several WR2s with second and third round picks.

So you would rather have MJD, Portis, Benson, McGahee over Smith, Chad Johnson, Owens, or Harrison?

Well, Chad Johnson didn't help too many people with his 10 games of under 10 points last season did he? Sure he hit it out of the park for 2 weeks midseason, but many that drafted him had already traded him away by then and he flopped to the tune of less than 6 ppg in the fantasy playoffs last season. You want a guy like that in round two, go right ahead. I like Harrison, Owens and Smith a lot, but I'd just as soon load up on guys like Benson and McGahee and piece in receivers like Colston and Reggie Brown than grab Harrison and Johnson and piece in guys like Cadillac and Ahman Green later.

 

[JimboJim]

Before people go out and start gobbling up WRs, bear in mind that top tier WR scoring has been on the DOWNSWING the past few years and that the guys near the top of rotated more than ever.If someone projected in the Top 5 or Top 10 misses the mark even a little, that player could plummet 20+ spots in the rankings in a heartbeat. While loading up on WRs may seem like the trendy thing to do, I would say that people need to chose wisely or else they may end up with several WR2s with second and third round picks.

So you would rather have MJD, Portis, Benson, McGahee over Smith, Chad Johnson, Owens, or Harrison?

I sure would... when I could pair one of those RBs up with one of the following other WRs:- Wayne- Holt- Boldin- Williams- Housh- Walker- Driver- EvansPersonally, I would take a MJD, Benson, Portis.../any WR above combooverSmith, Johnson, Owens.../Caddy, Lynch, Barber III...

 

[-Crippler-]

I am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

Unfortunately it never begs the question - not this year or any other. Taking a WR that early makes absolutely no sense unless you have a crazy league setup.

 

[David Yudkin]

For starters, let me say that the scoring system and lineup configurations will greatly impact who I would ever recommend or consider drafting. For example, in some leagues I play in Gates is a first round pick. In others, he may not even be worth a 4th round pick.

Anyway, here are the Top 10 fantasy scorers overall from 2004-2006 and their rankings each season:

Harrison 5-9-1

Ocho Cinco 9-4-4

Holt 7-6-6

Wayne 8-21-3

Owens 4-32-2

Driver 10-13-5

Fitzgerald 30-2-24

Muhammad 1-37-30

Evans 24-29-7

SMoss 33-3-27

In most seasons, if you take a WR in the second, he really needs to rank in the Top 3 to have a lot of positive fantasy value. Not included in that list are other guys currently ranked in the Top 10 including SSmith, Williams, and Walker (and Randy Moss and some others lurking as well). There seems to be a wide variety of guys that are candidates to go early.

IMO, some of the 2nd round RBs are worth the risk and others are not. That's a judgment call that each drafter has to come to grips with. But I am more of a VBD disciple, so in a standard scoring league I would probably be inclined to take a shot on someone like Benson or Maroney. IMO, the value of a RB that ends the year in the Top 10 RB generally will be more than that a WR that ranks outside the Top 5.

If people actually looked at the scoring patterns for WR, if you don't end up with someon in the Top 5 or so, there are generally a lot of WRs crammed together scoring wise just beyond that and the range from say the Top 10 into the low 30s is pretty close. The difference scoring wise in just a handful of RBs in the Bottom of the Top 10 those ranked in the early teens normally is greater than that tier of 20-25 receivers, so if there is a RB I like and feel confident about I'd rather take the RB.

Again, this is speaking in generalities as scoring and starting requirements will greatly impact what strategy might work best.

 

[1huskerfan]

Moronic.

The WR you take will never ever ever put up #'s comparable to a top 3 RB. NEVER.

Taking LJ, Gore, Alexander and Addai, even Willie Parker is better than Steve "Hamstrung" Smith. There were at least 13 RB's that scored more pts than Smith did last year and 3/4 WR's.

I am guessing your draft board looks something like:1. Manning

2. LT2

3. Palmer

4. Brady

5. Brees

There's no way a RB not name LT2 outscores a top 5 QB.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I dont want to get too complex on this subject, but after LT2 & S.Jax are gone, what rb's are worth #3. LJ if he signs, but dont sell me on Addai, Henry, Westbrook, Bush, Parker being worth that high of a draft pick. I am not saying those guys are bad, but they are not worthy of the pick in the 3-6 range.Why not get your rb's later like in rds 2-4 while everyone else is getting 2nd rb's and 1st & 2nd wr's.Steve Smith, T.Holt, Wayne, Chad JohnsonI am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

I you decide to take this route, which BTW I would not recommend,please trade down to do so, you can stockpile some very nice picksif you trade out of the 3-6 range.

 

[Colin Dowling]

"No."

 

[GOroute]

I dont want to get too complex on this subject, but after LT2 & S.Jax are gone, what rb's are worth #3. LJ if he signs, but dont sell me on Addai, Henry, Westbrook, Bush, Parker being worth that high of a draft pick. I am not saying those guys are bad, but they are not worthy of the pick in the 3-6 range.Why not get your rb's later like in rds 2-4 while everyone else is getting 2nd rb's and 1st & 2nd wr's.Steve Smith, T.Holt, Wayne, Chad JohnsonI am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

I you decide to take this route, which BTW I would not recommend,please trade down to do so, you can stockpile some very nice picksif you trade out of the 3-6 range.

I agree. And again I am not saying this is what I am doing, but it is an interesting debate nonetheless. It is a topic for discussion. What is funny is you have many people on here so matter of fact and they actually get angry about these things. This is a debate, not an argument. I no i am not taking s.smith at #4, but if someone does it, this is the year they could get away with it. My conclusion is this: I would want pick 1 or 2 (maybe 3 if LJ signs) and if I dont, I want to be in the bottom part of rd1, because I just dont see any sure things in picks 3 - 6 (unless lj signs).that's all.

 

[I Am Rick James]

I think this is a good debate, serious trade oppertunities exist and could make this strategy very good. I would sonsider something like this. In a 10 teamer, trade the #5 pic for to some guy drafting 8 in exchange for his #13 and his #28. That would leave you with 13, 16, 25, 28. This trade would be feasable to some team that values the top 8 RB's more than you do. With the extra pic you will be "carpet bombing" the early rounds picking WR's , QB's and/or 3rd teir RB's that, in your oppinion, are just as good as the 2nd tier guys. All the while, you get a free stud WR. It would be like trading Westbrook for T. Jones and S. Smith. I did something similar in my big $$ league last year and won it.

 

[David Yudkin]

I think this is a good debate, serious trade oppertunities exist and could make this strategy very good. I would sonsider something like this. In a 10 teamer, trade the #5 pic for to some guy drafting 8 in exchange for his #13 and his #28. That would leave you with 13, 16, 25, 28. This trade would be feasable to some team that values the top 8 RB's more than you do. With the extra pic you will be "carpet bombing" the early rounds picking WR's , QB's and/or 3rd teir RB's that, in your oppinion, are just as good as the 2nd tier guys. All the while, you get a free stud WR. It would be like trading Westbrook for T. Jones and S. Smith. I did something similar in my big $$ league last year and won it.

No one in any of my leagues would trade those picks to move up three spots, but I guess it would be worth a shot . . .

 

[crimsonrebel]

last year there were on;ly three RB studs. What makes this year any different?

 

[I Am Rick James]

Read it again, the other team would own the 5 and the 8 pic. Very enticing to someone who thinks those 5-8 RB's are all that. Last year I traded my 11th pic for someone else's 20th and 40th. My reasoning was the 20th was just as good as the 11th and I ultimitely guessed right. It worked out to be R. Brown for Holt and K. Jones.

 

[I Am Rick James]

This year is no different, all the more reason to trade down

 

[Judge Smails]

This year is no different, all the more reason to trade down

I think anybody having the 3-4 spot will have a tough time trading down this year. If there weren't question marks re LJ and Gore, maybe not. But every draft in the world will LT and SJax. #3 starts the question marks.

 

[thecardiackid]

I am not saying this is what I will be doing, but if it begs the question any year- this is the year.

Unfortunately it never begs the question - not this year or any other. Taking a WR that early makes absolutely no sense unless you have a crazy league setup.

Agreed. If this is your theory (poster), why not trade down to the end of the round, add a (say 4th round) pick and try your luck?

RBs = demand <<< supply (for the good ones anyway)

 

[pghrob]

The goal is to score more points in your lineup at each position than what other FFB players have in their lineups at each position. Bypassing RB's (who are regularly more difficult to come by) at picks 1.04 - 1.07 for WR's whose scoring could be captured in round 2 at picks 2.06 -2.09 or even round 3 means that you are going to take a chance on missing out on RB's who can post winning numbers.

 

[tomarken]

The goal is to score more points in your lineup at each position than what other FFB players have in their lineups at each position. Bypassing RB's (who are regularly more difficult to come by) at picks 1.04 - 1.07 for WR's whose scoring could be captured in round 2 at picks 2.06 -2.09 or even round 3 means that you are going to take a chance on missing out on RB's who can post winning numbers.

This is fantasy fundamentals, and anyone considering taking a WR early in the first is way behind the curve.It seems like a lot of people go out of their way to "break the mold" or be different - you see a lot of posts eschewing the strategy of taking RB's in the first few rounds, as if it has become passe. Everyone wants to be a shark and come up with the next great draft strategy, when in fact if you pass on RB's early in the draft you are just demonstrating a lack of understanding of FF value. I'm assuming fairly standard rosters and scoring, of course - and yes, that includes PPR. WR's do not become exponentially more valuable just because they get a point for every catch.

 

[gianmarco]

I actually did this (traded out of 1st round) in a startup dynasty league and feel it worked out well. I had the 1.04 pick and traded it to get his 2nd and his 3rd and to move up in 7th and 10th round. But the point to do so wasn't to get WR's in the 2nd round but to able to get those same WR's in the 3rd and 4th while still getting RB's in the 2nd. With my 2nd round picks, I was able to grab Henry and AP. But, because of the extra 3rd round pick and a little more trading to move my 4th round pick to 4.1, I was able to land Holt, Walker, and Andre Johnson. So yes, I missed out on LJ, but felt I got great value for it.

If you want to move that pick in the 1st round, getting the 2nd/3rd round picks as well as moving up later can work out well if you draft it right. The other advantage I had was that I was constantly 1 player ahead of everyone else so I was able to start trends instead of react. For example, was able to get Brees in the 5th (when I never reach for a QB early) as he was actually my 7th player drafted. As I already had 3 RB's and 3 WR's, it was easy for me to do. Just something to keep in mind.