Is a Denver vs Seattle Super Bowl inevitable? (1 Viewer)

[ImTheScientist]

Not even close to inevitable. Denver has flaws on defense and Seattle may not even be the best team in the NFC

Their record begs to differ.

So do the Saints.

Saints lost to the one good team they have played thus far. They beat up on scrubs to this point.

 

[Hoss Style]

Interesting game this weekend - the first common opponent of Denver and Seattle. Indy eeked by the Seahawks for a win. Now Indy plays Denver. It'll be interesting to see if Denver can handle the Colts better or worse than Seattle did.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

No, it's similar to saying a 6-5 shot and a 5-2 shot are an inevitable winning daily double at the track.

http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/football-futures.jsp

 

[seahawk 17]

Not even close to inevitable. Denver has flaws on defense and Seattle may not even be the best team in the NFC

Their record begs to differ.

Uh not quite (see the Saints) and hence my comment.

NFL Thursday Night crew just said Seattle is the best team in the NFC.

 

[proninja]

It still doesn't matter who anybody thinks is the best team right now. Seahawks/Saints is coming up. We get to see how this plays out. We don't need to argue questions that don't have answers now.

 

[biju]

It still doesn't matter who anybody thinks is the best team right now. Seahawks/Saints is coming up. We get to see how this plays out. We don't need to argue questions that don't have answers now.

Sure, except we're playing the Saints at home. I don't know about you, but I would not want to be playing the Saints in New Orleans to decide who gets HFA. I think we lucked out getting them in Seattle.

 

[Not Sleeping]

Not even close to inevitable. Denver has flaws on defense and Seattle may not even be the best team in the NFC

Their record begs to differ.

Uh not quite (see the Saints) and hence my comment.

NFL Thursday Night crew just said Seattle is the best team in the NFC.

Die-hard Niners fan here, and I happen to agree with that statement right now. I am holding out hope though that a healthy Crabtree and Manningham can put SF over the top in the Week 14 SF/SEA rematch.

 

[Gadabout]

It still doesn't matter who anybody thinks is the best team right now. Seahawks/Saints is coming up. We get to see how this plays out. We don't need to argue questions that don't have answers now.

Sure, except we're playing the Saints at home. I don't know about you, but I would not want to be playing the Saints in New Orleans to decide who gets HFA. I think we lucked out getting them in Seattle.

In Seattle and right after the Seahawks' bye.

 

[Riversco]

Seattle gets HFA and I can't see them not being in the Super Bowl. The bigger question is actually if the Broncos are there to meet them.

 

[Sabertooth]

Seattle won't get past Green Bay without the scabs.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Not even close to inevitable. Denver has flaws on defense and Seattle may not even be the best team in the NFC

Their record begs to differ.

Uh not quite (see the Saints) and hence my comment.

NFL Thursday Night crew just said Seattle is the best team in the NFC.

Well snap that settles it Honestly I'm not saying that Seattle isn't the best team and I will be rooting for you guys (now that my Steelers are mathematically eliminated)

 

[beef]

What are the odds on the field?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Saints would kill Seattle.

Do you mean "will"? Because we get to find out. I think you'll be wrong.

On a neutral field I agree... In a cold wet Seattle I don't think so.

 

[Gopher State]

Maybe Denver in the Super Bowl but Seattle no. Saint and Packers are better then the Sea Hooks

 

[habsfan]

Maybe Denver in the Super Bowl but Seattle no. Saint and Packers are better then the Sea Hooks

Based on?

 

[Neofight]

Maybe Denver in the Super Bowl but Seattle no. Saint and Packers are better then the Sea Hooks

Based on?

Granfalloonery

 

[Sabertooth]

Maybe Denver in the Super Bowl but Seattle no. Saint and Packers are better then the Sea Hooks

Based on?

Playoff experience.

 

[SportsGuru311]

I will say that denver will not get to the superbowl with that defense.

 

[Leonidas]

I would wager money that DEV vs SEA is not the superboal.

Predicting both superbowl contenders is very difficult, especially this far out

 

[packseasontix]

HFA has inside track and I think it goes as follows:

Saints Lose (@SEA) Possible Loss (@ATL - division game on road)

Packers Lose (NONE) Possible Loss (@DET - division game on road)

Seattle Lose (@ATL, @SF) Possible Loss (@NYG - east coast)

49ers Lose (@NO) Possible Loss (@WAS - RG3 Back in form???) - as a note I picked upset of the week as Jax over 49ers this weekend but I am not counting on it

In the end:

#1 Saints (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, @ATL, DAL, @CHI, 49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC West Strong)

#2 Packers (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, DAL, CHI, @CHI, @49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC EAST Weak)

Seattle (4 Losses)

49ers (4 Losses)

 

[proninja]

I'd take some action on Seattle @nyg if you really believe what you wrote

 

[seahawk 17]

Maybe Denver in the Super Bowl but Seattle no. Saint and Packers are better then the Sea Hooks

Packer fan is delusional...one and done.

Right now I would think Colts vs Seahawks or Saints.

 

[mad sweeney]

HFA has inside track and I think it goes as follows:

Saints Lose (@SEA) Possible Loss (@ATL - division game on road)

Packers Lose (NONE) Possible Loss (@DET - division game on road)

Seattle Lose (@ATL, @SF) Possible Loss (@NYG - east coast)

49ers Lose (@NO) Possible Loss (@WAS - RG3 Back in form???) - as a note I picked upset of the week as Jax over 49ers this weekend but I am not counting on it

In the end:

#1 Saints (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, @ATL, DAL, @CHI, 49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC West Strong)

#2 Packers (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, DAL, CHI, @CHI, @49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC EAST Weak)

Seattle (4 Losses)

49ers (4 Losses)

"Possible loss" to the NYG?! The 1 win Giants with the sieve OL and turnover machine QB who only got their one win because they managed to suck just a little bit less than their winless opponent? How could you even type that without laughing yourself to death?

 

[packseasontix]

HFA has inside track and I think it goes as follows:

Saints Lose (@SEA) Possible Loss (@ATL - division game on road)

Packers Lose (NONE) Possible Loss (@DET - division game on road)

Seattle Lose (@ATL, @SF) Possible Loss (@NYG - east coast)

49ers Lose (@NO) Possible Loss (@WAS - RG3 Back in form???) - as a note I picked upset of the week as Jax over 49ers this weekend but I am not counting on it

In the end:

#1 Saints (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, @ATL, DAL, @CHI, 49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC West Strong)

#2 Packers (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, DAL, CHI, @CHI, @49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC EAST Weak)

Seattle (4 Losses)

49ers (4 Losses)

"Possible loss" to the NYG?! The 1 win Giants with the sieve OL and turnover machine QB who only got their one win because they managed to suck just a little bit less than their winless opponent? How could you even type that without laughing yourself to death?

Easy people thought I was crazy back in week 2 when I was looking at the Jets to win twice against the Patriots... Well they missed their chance when they played AWAY but won at HOME. Anything can happen in this league and because:

Weeks prior for Seattle- vs Saints / @49ers

Game time on east coast - 1pm

Since 2012 on east coast regular season - (3-3) 2 wins against Carolina by less than a TD and 1 win against Buffalo / Losses @DET, @MIA, @IND

Wilson is possibly in the backfield - http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9826244/david-wilson-new-york-giants-need-neck-surgery-source-says

Giants are getting better

Eli can't stay this bad - lowest completion % since 2005, on pace for highest INTs in season, lowest Rating/QBR of career, on pace for most sacks of career, no 4QC or GWD yet this season

Yes I do think that the Giants won't just be a roll over and die game at that point in the season and until I see a really good game by Seattle on the east coast I am not going to get past their woes of how they play when traveling across the country.

Also note that Seattle could run the table as well and could be on the inside track for the Super Bowl.

 

[Sabertooth]

Green Bay would pound Seattle in either place. Cobb and Matthews will be back, best rush defense in the NFL. Perfect storm.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Green Bay would pound Seattle in either place. Cobb and Matthews will be back, best rush defense in the NFL. Perfect storm.

 

[Raider Nation]

Maybe not inevitable.

 

[beef]

Are we sure the AFC won't concede to the Seahawks?

 

[Sabertooth]

Are we sure the AFC won't concede to the Seahawks?

I am positive.

 

[mad sweeney]

HFA has inside track and I think it goes as follows:

Saints Lose (@SEA) Possible Loss (@ATL - division game on road)

Packers Lose (NONE) Possible Loss (@DET - division game on road)

Seattle Lose (@ATL, @SF) Possible Loss (@NYG - east coast)

49ers Lose (@NO) Possible Loss (@WAS - RG3 Back in form???) - as a note I picked upset of the week as Jax over 49ers this weekend but I am not counting on it

In the end:

#1 Saints (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, @ATL, DAL, @CHI, 49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC West Strong)

#2 Packers (3 Losses) - 2 conference losses - common opponents (4-1 / ATL, DAL, CHI, @CHI, @49ers) - Strength of Victory (Very Similar) - Overall Strength (NFC EAST Weak)

Seattle (4 Losses)

49ers (4 Losses)

"Possible loss" to the NYG?! The 1 win Giants with the sieve OL and turnover machine QB who only got their one win because they managed to suck just a little bit less than their winless opponent? How could you even type that without laughing yourself to death?

Easy people thought I was crazy back in week 2 when I was looking at the Jets to win twice against the Patriots... Well they missed their chance when they played AWAY but won at HOME. Anything can happen in this league and because:

Weeks prior for Seattle- vs Saints / @49ers

Game time on east coast - 1pm

Since 2012 on east coast regular season - (3-3) 2 wins against Carolina by less than a TD and 1 win against Buffalo / Losses @DET, @MIA, @IND

Wilson is possibly in the backfield - http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9826244/david-wilson-new-york-giants-need-neck-surgery-source-says

Giants are getting better

Eli can't stay this bad - lowest completion % since 2005, on pace for highest INTs in season, lowest Rating/QBR of career, on pace for most sacks of career, no 4QC or GWD yet this season

Yes I do think that the Giants won't just be a roll over and die game at that point in the season and until I see a really good game by Seattle on the east coast I am not going to get past their woes of how they play when traveling across the country.

Also note that Seattle could run the table as well and could be on the inside track for the Super Bowl.

Sure, the Giants game is a possible loss. As is any team versus any other team, so semantically you're correct. However, when you wrote it, you had 6 or 7 weeks of data to process and there's not a single aspect of the game you'd be able to favor NYG with. You want to see a really good road game by Seattle? How about beating, on the road, a team that blanked the NYG and beat them 38-0? Seattle's 3-1 on the road this year and there's no way the NYG are going to be less than 10 point underdogs. The Giants haven't even shown you a good game at all this year. Both wins came from sucking just slightly less than their opponent. Other than the start time, there's not a single, microscoping shred of evidence or factor that can be used to argue that this game will be anything more than a very probable Seattle win. Last season the Seahawks put up over 50 in an east coast game, against a team that was no worse than this year's Giants are. Throw whatever spaghetti against the wall you want to, there's nothing other than "any given Sunday" to support chalking that game up as anything but another road win.

 

[Riversco]

Starting to wonder if both Peyton and Brady are getting too old to do this anymore for a full season. Peyton's body is starting to betray him in week 8. Brady has been slow going all year. When January comes around, they simply may not be able to answer the bell.

 

[mad sweeney]

Starting to wonder if both Peyton and Brady are getting too old to do this anymore for a full season. Peyton's body is starting to betray him in week 8. Brady has been slow going all year. When January comes around, they simply may not be able to answer the bell.

Makes me feel old watching them play, knowing that these "old men" of the league are younger than me. I wonder who will be the Manning/Brady of the new generation. Indy and/or GB will most likely end up with one player in the mix. Can Wilson be the mid round steal to be Luck's Brady? Ryan or Stafford the big stats guys with few playoff successes?

 

[Riversco]

Starting to wonder if both Peyton and Brady are getting too old to do this anymore for a full season. Peyton's body is starting to betray him in week 8. Brady has been slow going all year. When January comes around, they simply may not be able to answer the bell.

Makes me feel old watching them play, knowing that these "old men" of the league are younger than me. I wonder who will be the Manning/Brady of the new generation. Indy and/or GB will most likely end up with one player in the mix. Can Wilson be the mid round steal to be Luck's Brady? Ryan or Stafford the big stats guys with few playoff successes?

Russell Wilson is about as close to a lock as I can think of because he's already bagged a 4th quarter playoff comeback on the road, and the only reason he didn't get a second one was because the defense gave up more points. He was amazing in the 4th quarter of both playoff games last year. That's something you just can't teach. Wilson's got it. I don't care if other QBs post better numbers in the regular season or stuff like that. When the game is on the line Russell Wilson is not a shrinking violet. If I'm wrong about him, I'll be quite surprised.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Not even close to inevitable. Denver has flaws on defense and Seattle may not even be the best team in the NFC

Their record begs to differ.

So do the Saints.

Saints lost to the one good team they have played thus far. They beat up on scrubs to this point.

Is this a serious post? Atlanta actually was a good team when we beat them. That was back before the injuries and all that, The Patriots hardly ever lose at home and in my opinion they still had that game handed to them by calls. Miami is a good team, Chicago is a good team with Cutler, There is nothing about the Seahawks game that guarantees a win when the Saints come to town. I actually see it as an easier out for the Saints than the Pats game. And Atlanta as beat up and hopeless as they are right now will not beat the Saints this year. Our Biggest threat comes from the Panthers and 49ers IMO.

 

[Raider Nation]

Final ruling: NOT inevitable!

Seattle's O-line is a joke.

 

[Deamon]

Green Bay would pound Seattle in either place. Cobb and Matthews will be back, best rush defense in the NFL. Perfect storm.

Nice Self-Portrait

 

[Breesisdaman]

Rob Ryan is licking his chops looking at the Seahawks give up that many sacks to the Rams.

 

[GreenNGold]

Seattle will be lucky to win a single playoff game

 

[BassNBrew]

Starting to wonder if both Peyton and Brady are getting too old to do this anymore for a full season. Peyton's body is starting to betray him in week 8. Brady has been slow going all year. When January comes around, they simply may not be able to answer the bell.

Makes me feel old watching them play, knowing that these "old men" of the league are younger than me. I wonder who will be the Manning/Brady of the new generation. Indy and/or GB will most likely end up with one player in the mix. Can Wilson be the mid round steal to be Luck's Brady? Ryan or Stafford the big stats guys with few playoff successes?

Russell Wilson is about as close to a lock as I can think of because he's already bagged a 4th quarter playoff comeback on the road, and the only reason he didn't get a second one was because the defense gave up more points. He was amazing in the 4th quarter of both playoff games last year. That's something you just can't teach. Wilson's got it. I don't care if other QBs post better numbers in the regular season or stuff like that. When the game is on the line Russell Wilson is not a shrinking violet. If I'm wrong about him, I'll be quite surprised.

His history at NCState and Wisconsin says otherwise.

 

[BassNBrew]

Seattle will be lucky to win a single playoff game

I'd take that wager if you want to put up some cash.

 

[biju]

Seattle will be lucky to win a single playoff game

I'd take that wager if you want to put up some cash.

Agreed. Any amount and I'll spot you 5 points if they are at home. And I actually mean any amount.

 

[Alkahsu]

Final ruling: NOT inevitable!

Seattle's O-line is a joke.

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[Raider Nation]

Final ruling: NOT inevitable!

Seattle's O-line is a joke.

: :

LOL.

The Rams D-linemen were fist-fighting each other to decide which one of them gets to sack Wilson next.

 

[nobiz]

The Saints remind me of the Patriots juggernauts. Even the game they lost, in Boston, they had receivers wide open and Brees just overthrew them. The Saints can run the ball and their defense is actually very tough and very good. I rank the NFC: NO, SF, DET/GB (tie), SEA, DAL/CAR (tie). The NFC has outstanding balance actually.

As for the AFC, it's only DEN. KC is a fraud of the schedule.

And in the SB, with the refs continuing to help DEN, they will win.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Bengals are probably the best of the afc atm. But neither they nor the broncos will end up representing the afc.

:notreallybold:

 

[Hoss Style]

And in the SB, with the refs continuing to help DEN, they will win.

 

[moleculo]

The Saints remind me of the Patriots juggernauts. Even the game they lost, in Boston, they had receivers wide open and Brees just overthrew them. The Saints can run the ball and their defense is actually very tough and very good. I rank the NFC: NO, SF, DET/GB (tie), SEA, DAL/CAR (tie). The NFC has outstanding balance actually.

As for the AFC, it's only DEN. KC is a fraud of the schedule.

And in the SB, with the refs continuing to help DEN, they will win.

is this a common perception? From my obviously biased viewpoint, the refs have screwed the Broncos at every turn. Not sure how one sees the refs helping Denver at all.

 

[VA703]

way too many flags last night. nfl is becoming unwatchable

 

[Hoss Style]

The Saints remind me of the Patriots juggernauts. Even the game they lost, in Boston, they had receivers wide open and Brees just overthrew them. The Saints can run the ball and their defense is actually very tough and very good. I rank the NFC: NO, SF, DET/GB (tie), SEA, DAL/CAR (tie). The NFC has outstanding balance actually.

As for the AFC, it's only DEN. KC is a fraud of the schedule.

And in the SB, with the refs continuing to help DEN, they will win.

is this a common perception? From my obviously biased viewpoint, the refs have screwed the Broncos at every turn. Not sure how one sees the refs helping Denver at all.

This is why they have the tin foil hat emoticon. So you don't have to type. Although the aliens controlling the boards fought it, they eventually let us use it.

 

[Raider Nation]