Is a Denver vs Seattle Super Bowl inevitable? (1 Viewer)

[ScottyDog]

The Patriots can beat the Broncos (obviously).

The Panthers can beat the Seahawks.

I think one of these 2 will happen in the playoffs.

Newton in Seattle=complete meltdown IMOI think the 49ers can beat the Seahawks in Seattle, not sure about the Saints after tonight but I wouldn't rule it out.

Did you not see the last 2 games the 49ers have played in Seattle? Combined score from both games is 71-16 in the Hawks favor. Both games were blow outs.

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

You don't say? Sure nothing is guaranteed, but it gives you an indication of what to expect and the 49ers have shown nothing even remotely close to being able to beat this Seattle team in Seattle.

You forget the first match up ago last season, with Alex Smith at QB.

SEA can lose. Harbaugh ain't a dumb coach who Carroll is perfect against , in college and in the NFL. He can beat Carroll, and that is proven. He can do it without a passing game too.

If the crowd noise in SEA has had a true impact historically, then maybe you would be the new Noisy Tundra. Sorry proninja, I'm going away from being classy here. But the reality is that Seahawk fans ultimately have nothing to do with the impact of their chosen franchise. You have a really good team now that is poised for a deep run. Many teams have had that without a home field advantage. You can scream as much as you want, but it still does not make Rick Mirer into Joe Montana, no matter what Bill Walsh would had thought.

But every team poised for a deep run can be stopped. Every team can lose at home. It's happened to the best teams in regular season record. It's the playoffs.

What's funny is that all of the sudden Harbaugh can't beat SEA and Carroll. He switched QB's last season and fell just a play short of winning the Super Bowl. All of the sudden, I'm thinking Vince Young and the Texas Longhorns here. Like Carroll can't be beat in big games. Harbaugh in two seasons lost an NFCC and a Super Bowl. Carroll in four couldn't even get past a division round twice, with two different QBs that weren't switched in mid-season.

Drummer, your team has been passed by. I am sorry, it does not feel good as I would know being a Hawks fan for over 35 years. But John Schneider and Pete Carrol have built a machine that not Harbaugh or Baalke can stop THIS YEAR. Maybe the 49ers will hold court Sunday as they should but they can not come up to Seattle and get a win. And as far as your comments about the 12th man not being able to help the Hawks win at home? You obviously have never come up to Seattle and watched a game in person. It is utter chaos and almost mental torture for the visiting team.

 

[mad sweeney]

The Patriots can beat the Broncos (obviously).

The Panthers can beat the Seahawks.

I think one of these 2 will happen in the playoffs.

Newton in Seattle=complete meltdown IMOI think the 49ers can beat the Seahawks in Seattle, not sure about the Saints after tonight but I wouldn't rule it out.

Did you not see the last 2 games the 49ers have played in Seattle? Combined score from both games is 71-16 in the Hawks favor. Both games were blow outs.

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

You don't say? Sure nothing is guaranteed, but it gives you an indication of what to expect and the 49ers have shown nothing even remotely close to being able to beat this Seattle team in Seattle.

You forget the first match up ago last season, with Alex Smith at QB.

SEA can lose. Harbaugh ain't a dumb coach who Carroll is perfect against , in college and in the NFL. He can beat Carroll, and that is proven. He can do it without a passing game too.

If the crowd noise in SEA has had a true impact historically, then maybe you would be the new Noisy Tundra. Sorry proninja, I'm going away from being classy here. But the reality is that Seahawk fans ultimately have nothing to do with the impact of their chosen franchise. You have a really good team now that is poised for a deep run. Many teams have had that without a home field advantage. You can scream as much as you want, but it still does not make Rick Mirer into Joe Montana, no matter what Bill Walsh would had thought.

But every team poised for a deep run can be stopped. Every team can lose at home. It's happened to the best teams in regular season record. It's the playoffs.

What's funny is that all of the sudden Harbaugh can't beat SEA and Carroll. He switched QB's last season and fell just a play short of winning the Super Bowl. All of the sudden, I'm thinking Vince Young and the Texas Longhorns here. Like Carroll can't be beat in big games. Harbaugh in two seasons lost an NFCC and a Super Bowl. Carroll in four couldn't even get past a division round twice, with two different QBs that weren't switched in mid-season.

The talent levels on the team were massively different when they got there. It's perfectly natural for Carroll's to have taken longer to get up to NFCCG level. However, your own points work against you, because this awesome SF team that went to two NFCCGs and a SB got their asses handed to them the last two times the played in Seattle. Utterly demolished both times, even with that one-play-short SB team. So while yes, this is the NFL and SF is good and Harbaugh can beat Carroll, noting in recent history supports the theory that SF could even be in a close game up there, much less win.

 

[T with T]

The Patriots can beat the Broncos (obviously).

The Panthers can beat the Seahawks.

I think one of these 2 will happen in the playoffs.

Newton in Seattle=complete meltdown IMOI think the 49ers can beat the Seahawks in Seattle, not sure about the Saints after tonight but I wouldn't rule it out.

Did you not see the last 2 games the 49ers have played in Seattle? Combined score from both games is 71-16 in the Hawks favor. Both games were blow outs.

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

You don't say? Sure nothing is guaranteed, but it gives you an indication of what to expect and the 49ers have shown nothing even remotely close to being able to beat this Seattle team in Seattle.

You forget the first match up ago last season, with Alex Smith at QB.

SEA can lose. Harbaugh ain't a dumb coach who Carroll is perfect against , in college and in the NFL. He can beat Carroll, and that is proven. He can do it without a passing game too.

If the crowd noise in SEA has had a true impact historically, then maybe you would be the new Noisy Tundra. Sorry proninja, I'm going away from being classy here. But the reality is that Seahawk fans ultimately have nothing to do with the impact of their chosen franchise. You have a really good team now that is poised for a deep run. Many teams have had that without a home field advantage. You can scream as much as you want, but it still does not make Rick Mirer into Joe Montana, no matter what Bill Walsh would had thought.

But every team poised for a deep run can be stopped. Every team can lose at home. It's happened to the best teams in regular season record. It's the playoffs.

What's funny is that all of the sudden Harbaugh can't beat SEA and Carroll. He switched QB's last season and fell just a play short of winning the Super Bowl. All of the sudden, I'm thinking Vince Young and the Texas Longhorns here. Like Carroll can't be beat in big games. Harbaugh in two seasons lost an NFCC and a Super Bowl. Carroll in four couldn't even get past a division round twice, with two different QBs that weren't switched in mid-season.

The talent levels on the team were massively different when they got there. It's perfectly natural for Carroll's to have taken longer to get up to NFCCG level. However, your own points work against you, because this awesome SF team that went to two NFCCGs and a SB got their asses handed to them the last two times the played in Seattle. Utterly demolished both times, even with that one-play-short SB team. So while yes, this is the NFL and SF is good and Harbaugh can beat Carroll, noting in recent history supports the theory that SF could even be in a close game up there, much less win.

 

[jurb26]

Sea looks like a strong favorite to make the SB in the NFC now that they have nearly locked in the #1 spot. At home, they look unbeatable. I think Car matches up best vs them and would give them the best game should it come down to that.

The AFC looks like a bit of a mess IMO. I think 4 teams are in the running with a decent shot; Den, NE, Cinci and KC all look like teams that could represent the AFC IMO. Den and Ne being the strongest of the group right now. I don't think Den is near the lock Sea is. As a matter of fact I'd place NE ahead of them. On top of that I could see teams like Cinci or KC (odd seeing the list 2x to Den) giving Den trouble in the playoffs.

 

[mdlane]

It would be awesome if the Niners made it to an NFC championship in Seattle in the first place.

And if the Niners did, no one is arguing that it would not be a David v Goliath type of struggle, where no one gives the Niners a chance to win.

The only things the Niners have going for them over other teams is that they have a lot of experience playing big games in Seattle (big, as in, big to Seattle fans and players so they turn out and bring the noise). Also, the Niners D has at times showed very well against Seattle despite turnovers and stupid penalties. Without looking, I am sure the game earlier this year was by far Wilson's worst game. But the Niners O has been inconsistent, to say the least.

So yeah, the Seahawks are obviously the favorites, and you can see why Seattle fans and players are already making a spot for their trophy, and bragging well in advance of playing the games.

 

[Anarchy99]

We have these threads and conversations every year, and for the most part, things happen that are unexpected. Look at the last ten years . . .

2012

BAL was 9-5 and not really getting much consideration as a SB contender after losing 3 in a row.

DEN looked great and had won 11 in a row and lost their first game in the post season.

2011

NYG at one point were 7-7 and left for dead and were almost completely eliminated from playoff contention.

GBP went 15-1 and got throttled in their first playoff game.

2010

GBP were 8-6 and then got healthy and hot at the right time.

NEP went 14-2 and had already crushed NYJ but then got humbled in the playoffs.

2008

ARI was 8-7 and coming off a 40 point blowout against NE but Warner got hot and they made a run.

2007

NYG went 10-6 and 4-4 in the second half of the season and looked rather ordinary in the regular season.

2006

SDC went 14-2 and won their last 10 games before puking on their shoes against NE.

2005

IND started 13-0 . . . and lost their first playoff game.

2004

PIT went 15-1 and Big Ben had won all 14 starts he made before getting run over by NE.

A few months from now we will likely be asking ourselves how TEAM X beat TEAM Y, what happened to TEAM Z, and how did TEAM Q get that far.

 

[proninja]

I'm as aware of and pleased with the results of the last two @sea games for SF as anybody, but pretending like they can't win in Seattle is foolish. It may not be likely, but it's absolutely on the table as a potential result.

 

[Breesisdaman]

The unbeaten or top dominating regular season teams rarely win it all.

2007 - Pats 18-0 vs a Wild Card Giants team?! Do what?
2008 - Titans 13-3. One-n-done.
2009 - Indy was unbeatable. Saints have the trophy.
2010 - ATL unbeatable at home. Pats were 14-2. SB = GB vs Steelers, GB wins.
2011 - GB unbeatable. 15-1. One-n-done.
2012 - Super Bowl was gonna be 13-3 Denver vs 13-3 Falcons. Right? Except someone forgot to tell Balt and SF.
2013 - Seattle's designing their ring....Ditto the Broncos.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't think anyone thought the 2009 Colts (who had a handful of narrow escapes) or the 2011 Packers (whose defense was historically awful) were unbeatable.

But I still agree with the premise. Seahawks/Broncos looks likely at this point, which means one or both probably won't make it.

 

[Sabertooth]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Green Bay is 1/2 a game out of the lead in the North. If Rodgers and Cobb can come back on schedule they'll be in the playoffs. At that point they roll. Just like a few years ago they'll be the hottest team in the NFL entering the playoffs and brush aside the pretenders with relative ease.

They lost their QB, WR, TE, both Tackles, and best defensive back? Whatayagonnado?

A week ago they were "brushing aside pretenders with relative ease."

Read what I wrote. It doesn't appear that Cobb or Rodgers is coming back at this point. Comprehension down?

So does this mean your weekly "lead pipe lock" posts are finally ending? Only took three losses and a tie, and we all pretty much knew he'd be out about this long. He was hurt on November 4th FWIW, you continued the brushing aside pretenders shtick for three whole weeks after!

The team showed they couldn't win without the best player in the NFL. If he were to come back this week and the team got into the playoffs, nobody would want to play them.

 

[Alkahsu]

The Patriots can beat the Broncos (obviously).

The Panthers can beat the Seahawks.

I think one of these 2 will happen in the playoffs.

Newton in Seattle=complete meltdown IMOI think the 49ers can beat the Seahawks in Seattle, not sure about the Saints after tonight but I wouldn't rule it out.

Did you not see the last 2 games the 49ers have played in Seattle? Combined score from both games is 71-16 in the Hawks favor. Both games were blow outs.

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

You don't say? Sure nothing is guaranteed, but it gives you an indication of what to expect and the 49ers have shown nothing even remotely close to being able to beat this Seattle team in Seattle.

You forget the first match up ago last season, with Alex Smith at QB.

SEA can lose. Harbaugh ain't a dumb coach who Carroll is perfect against , in college and in the NFL. He can beat Carroll, and that is proven. He can do it without a passing game too.

If the crowd noise in SEA has had a true impact historically, then maybe you would be the new Noisy Tundra. Sorry proninja, I'm going away from being classy here. But the reality is that Seahawk fans ultimately have nothing to do with the impact of their chosen franchise. You have a really good team now that is poised for a deep run. Many teams have had that without a home field advantage. You can scream as much as you want, but it still does not make Rick Mirer into Joe Montana, no matter what Bill Walsh would had thought.

But every team poised for a deep run can be stopped. Every team can lose at home. It's happened to the best teams in regular season record. It's the playoffs.

What's funny is that all of the sudden Harbaugh can't beat SEA and Carroll. He switched QB's last season and fell just a play short of winning the Super Bowl. All of the sudden, I'm thinking Vince Young and the Texas Longhorns here. Like Carroll can't be beat in big games. Harbaugh in two seasons lost an NFCC and a Super Bowl. Carroll in four couldn't even get past a division round twice, with two different QBs that weren't switched in mid-season.

I didn't forget about the game with Smith from last season, I just didn't realize that game was played in Seattle.......We're talking about SF being able to beat SEA in SEA. Like I said, they've given 0 indication that they can do this against a Wilson lead Seahawks team.....Doesn't mean it can't happen, but there is little reason to think it will.

 

[proninja]

Things can be very unlikely and yet very possible and not all that shocking

 

[MoveToSkypager]

The unbeaten or top dominating regular season teams rarely win it all.

2007 - Pats 18-0 vs a Wild Card Giants team?! Do what?

2008 - Titans 13-3. One-n-done.

2009 - Indy was unbeatable. Saints have the trophy.

2010 - ATL unbeatable at home. Pats were 14-2. SB = GB vs Steelers, GB wins.

2011 - GB unbeatable. 15-1. One-n-done.

2012 - Super Bowl was gonna be 13-3 Denver vs 13-3 Falcons. Right? Except someone forgot to tell Balt and SF.

2013 - Seattle's designing their ring....Ditto the Broncos.

Saints don't have a chance.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The unbeaten or top dominating regular season teams rarely win it all.

2007 - Pats 18-0 vs a Wild Card Giants team?! Do what?2008 - Titans 13-3. One-n-done.2009 - Indy was unbeatable. Saints have the trophy.2010 - ATL unbeatable at home. Pats were 14-2. SB = GB vs Steelers, GB wins.2011 - GB unbeatable. 15-1. One-n-done.2012 - Super Bowl was gonna be 13-3 Denver vs 13-3 Falcons. Right? Except someone forgot to tell Balt and SF.2013 - Seattle's designing their ring....Ditto the Broncos.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Saints got beat down.

 

[drummer]

We have these threads and conversations every year, and for the most part, things happen that are unexpected. Look at the last ten years . . .

2012

BAL was 9-5 and not really getting much consideration as a SB contender after losing 3 in a row.

DEN looked great and had won 11 in a row and lost their first game in the post season.

2011

NYG at one point were 7-7 and left for dead and were almost completely eliminated from playoff contention.

GBP went 15-1 and got throttled in their first playoff game.

2010

GBP were 8-6 and then got healthy and hot at the right time.

NEP went 14-2 and had already crushed NYJ but then got humbled in the playoffs.

2008

ARI was 8-7 and coming off a 40 point blowout against NE but Warner got hot and they made a run.

2007

NYG went 10-6 and 4-4 in the second half of the season and looked rather ordinary in the regular season.

2006

SDC went 14-2 and won their last 10 games before puking on their shoes against NE.

2005

IND started 13-0 . . . and lost their first playoff game.

2004

PIT went 15-1 and Big Ben had won all 14 starts he made before getting run over by NE.

A few months from now we will likely be asking ourselves how TEAM X beat TEAM Y, what happened to TEAM Z, and how did TEAM Q get that far.

 

[drummer]

The Patriots can beat the Broncos (obviously).

The Panthers can beat the Seahawks.

I think one of these 2 will happen in the playoffs.

Newton in Seattle=complete meltdown IMOI think the 49ers can beat the Seahawks in Seattle, not sure about the Saints after tonight but I wouldn't rule it out.

Did you not see the last 2 games the 49ers have played in Seattle? Combined score from both games is 71-16 in the Hawks favor. Both games were blow outs.

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

You don't say? Sure nothing is guaranteed, but it gives you an indication of what to expect and the 49ers have shown nothing even remotely close to being able to beat this Seattle team in Seattle.

You forget the first match up ago last season, with Alex Smith at QB.

SEA can lose. Harbaugh ain't a dumb coach who Carroll is perfect against , in college and in the NFL. He can beat Carroll, and that is proven. He can do it without a passing game too.

If the crowd noise in SEA has had a true impact historically, then maybe you would be the new Noisy Tundra. Sorry proninja, I'm going away from being classy here. But the reality is that Seahawk fans ultimately have nothing to do with the impact of their chosen franchise. You have a really good team now that is poised for a deep run. Many teams have had that without a home field advantage. You can scream as much as you want, but it still does not make Rick Mirer into Joe Montana, no matter what Bill Walsh would had thought.

But every team poised for a deep run can be stopped. Every team can lose at home. It's happened to the best teams in regular season record. It's the playoffs.

What's funny is that all of the sudden Harbaugh can't beat SEA and Carroll. He switched QB's last season and fell just a play short of winning the Super Bowl. All of the sudden, I'm thinking Vince Young and the Texas Longhorns here. Like Carroll can't be beat in big games. Harbaugh in two seasons lost an NFCC and a Super Bowl. Carroll in four couldn't even get past a division round twice, with two different QBs that weren't switched in mid-season.

I didn't forget about the game with Smith from last season, I just didn't realize that game was played in Seattle.......We're talking about SF being able to beat SEA in SEA. Like I said, they've given 0 indication that they can do this against a Wilson lead Seahawks team.....Doesn't mean it can't happen, but there is little reason to think it will.

Anything can happen in the post-season. SEA should be more focused on whether Carroll can bring them to the Big Dance then think they automatically get there, and what would happen if they did lose on their home turf, not just to SF, just to lose on it period. SEA fans think they can't. Let me tell you something: it just takes one play to lose a game sometimes, at home.

Just one play..

 

[drummer]

I'm as aware of and pleased with the results of the last two @sea games for SF as anybody, but pretending like they can't win in Seattle is foolish. It may not be likely, but it's absolutely on the table as a potential result.

These two coaches have coached against each other for years. Plus, they sort of come from the same coaching tree, Carroll more truly than Harbaugh. I mean, it's not like the 49ers all of the sudden are the Jags some Hawk fan wingnuts think, lol.

But in the small chance that the 49ers win in SEA, I wouldn't rub it in. I would just say to those with the 12th man Kool-Aid fueled bravado: stop reading fan blogs. They don't help you.

 

[SproutDaddy]

The unbeaten or top dominating regular season teams rarely win it all.

2007 - Pats 18-0 vs a Wild Card Giants team?! Do what?

2008 - Titans 13-3. One-n-done.

2009 - Indy was unbeatable. Saints have the trophy.

2010 - ATL unbeatable at home. Pats were 14-2. SB = GB vs Steelers, GB wins.

2011 - GB unbeatable. 15-1. One-n-done.

2012 - Super Bowl was gonna be 13-3 Denver vs 13-3 Falcons. Right? Except someone forgot to tell Balt and SF.

2013 - Seattle's designing their ring....Ditto the Broncos.

Saints don't have a chance.

Can I please borrow your time machine?

 

[CapnJB]

SEA should be more focused on whether Carroll can bring them to the Big Dance then think they automatically get there, and what would happen if they did lose on their home turf, not just to SF, just to lose on it period. SEA fans think they can't.

I think you might be projecting what you see from the frenzied fans into the Seahawks locker room. From what I've read and seen, the players are tremendously focused on one game at a time. And I think that's largely due the to leadership of Carroll and Wilson. Say what you will about Carroll but he has built a team that believes in the system.... and it shows on the field.

 

[drummer]

SEA should be more focused on whether Carroll can bring them to the Big Dance then think they automatically get there, and what would happen if they did lose on their home turf, not just to SF, just to lose on it period. SEA fans think they can't.

I think you might be projecting what you see from the frenzied fans into the Seahawks locker room. From what I've read and seen, the players are tremendously focused on one game at a time. And I think that's largely due the to leadership of Carroll and Wilson. Say what you will about Carroll but he has built a team that believes in the system.... and it shows on the field.

I've said a lot of good things about Carroll. Even when Hawk fans were doubting him a few years back.

 

[CapnJB]

SEA should be more focused on whether Carroll can bring them to the Big Dance then think they automatically get there, and what would happen if they did lose on their home turf, not just to SF, just to lose on it period. SEA fans think they can't.

I think you might be projecting what you see from the frenzied fans into the Seahawks locker room. From what I've read and seen, the players are tremendously focused on one game at a time. And I think that's largely due the to leadership of Carroll and Wilson. Say what you will about Carroll but he has built a team that believes in the system.... and it shows on the field.

I've said a lot of good things about Carroll. Even when Hawk fans were doubting him a few years back.

Sorry... I didn't mean you specifically... I was speaking in generalities. (although I know it looks the other way since I was addressing you... I had a feeling that wouldn't be clear)

 

[Breesisdaman]

I love all of the people who are saying the Seahawks won't be able to win once Russell Wilson gets paid. These people are fans of the Packers, Broncos, and Saints and I can't imagine it's entirely lost on them they fact that they are basically saying you can't field a Championship caliber team by overpaying for a QB. Or did you mean something else by "short window"?

It means welcome to our world. There is a reason the Saints had to let Nicks and Bushrod walk. Brees got so much money that we couldn't keep the team together as it was. So now we are inserting players into those spots and as you witnessed the offensive line just wasn't the same in that game Monday night. It happens to every team that wins a Superbowl, so if you do win and one day the Seahawks will win. You will see first hand what we are talking about.

 

[Breesisdaman]

The unbeaten or top dominating regular season teams rarely win it all.

2007 - Pats 18-0 vs a Wild Card Giants team?! Do what?2008 - Titans 13-3. One-n-done.2009 - Indy was unbeatable. Saints have the trophy.2010 - ATL unbeatable at home. Pats were 14-2. SB = GB vs Steelers, GB wins.2011 - GB unbeatable. 15-1. One-n-done.2012 - Super Bowl was gonna be 13-3 Denver vs 13-3 Falcons. Right? Except someone forgot to tell Balt and SF.2013 - Seattle's designing their ring....Ditto the Broncos.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Saints got beat down.

I'll respond to this post this once and then its back to troll ignore. The Saints were outplayed and out coached in every aspect of that game on Monday night. It was an embarrassment as a Saints fan. It was much the same way when the Giants came into our Dome in 2012 and got the hell beat out of them in every aspect. Total Blow out! Guess what? The Saints didn't make it to the Superbowl that year in spite of their great in season record and the wild card Giants put it all together at the right time and won the Super Bowl. Never say Never. No one is out of this hunt yet.

 

[proninja]

I love all of the people who are saying the Seahawks won't be able to win once Russell Wilson gets paid. These people are fans of the Packers, Broncos, and Saints and I can't imagine it's entirely lost on them they fact that they are basically saying you can't field a Championship caliber team by overpaying for a QB. Or did you mean something else by "short window"?

It means welcome to our world. There is a reason the Saints had to let Nicks and Bushrod walk. Brees got so much money that we couldn't keep the team together as it was. So now we are inserting players into those spots and as you witnessed the offensive line just wasn't the same in that game Monday night. It happens to every team that wins a Superbowl, so if you do win and one day the Seahawks will win. You will see first hand what we are talking about.

Good point. There's no way this Seahawk team could win games if they were missing really good offensive linemen.

 

[Sabertooth]

Wilson is going to command 20m+ by the time he is able to renegotiate.

 

[proninja]

Wilson is going to command 20m+ by the time he is able to renegotiate.

The 3rd round qb being so amazing that the team will have to pay a ton to keep him is the kind of problem I'm ok having.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Well yeah your GM did a good job there. Although I don't think rounds are significant as far as finding talent, look at Brett Favre a 2nd rounder to Atlanta that got traded, heck the Saints have a ton of guys on their roster that weren't even drafted , Pierre Thomas, Colston was a 7th rounder. Jimmy Graham was a 3rd rounder. Thing is Wilson's value is way more when he goes to get a contract than that rookie deal or draft position would have ever dictated. When does his contract come up and who is his agent?

Edit: Never mind I googled http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/russell-wilson-reps-reportedly-asked-seahawks-contract-192235605--nfl.html

 

[cacksman]

The loss to SF doesn't do anything to derail this train that is the Seattle Seahawks. Any given Sunday in the NFL, but the last and only time Seattle had home field throughout, they steamrolled their way to the Superb Owl. Choo Choo!

 

[Riversco]

We have these threads and conversations every year, and for the most part, things happen that are unexpected. Look at the last ten years . . .

2012

BAL was 9-5 and not really getting much consideration as a SB contender after losing 3 in a row.

DEN looked great and had won 11 in a row and lost their first game in the post season.

2011

NYG at one point were 7-7 and left for dead and were almost completely eliminated from playoff contention.

GBP went 15-1 and got throttled in their first playoff game.

2010

GBP were 8-6 and then got healthy and hot at the right time.

NEP went 14-2 and had already crushed NYJ but then got humbled in the playoffs.

2008

ARI was 8-7 and coming off a 40 point blowout against NE but Warner got hot and they made a run.

2007

NYG went 10-6 and 4-4 in the second half of the season and looked rather ordinary in the regular season.

2006

SDC went 14-2 and won their last 10 games before puking on their shoes against NE.

2005

IND started 13-0 . . . and lost their first playoff game.

2004

PIT went 15-1 and Big Ben had won all 14 starts he made before getting run over by NE.

A few months from now we will likely be asking ourselves how TEAM X beat TEAM Y, what happened to TEAM Z, and how did TEAM Q get that far.

That team this year might be the Eagles. They were 3-5 after 8 weeks, the Foles returned and threw 7 TDs in week 9 and they have won 5 straight.

As it stand right now, the Eagles would play at home against the Panthers in the first round. If they win that, I would assume the 49ers would beat the NFC North champ, so the Eagles would play at New Orleans in the second round. Then they'd probably have to win in Seattle. Brutal trip but you never know.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The loss to SF doesn't do anything to derail this train that is the Seattle Seahawks. Any given Sunday in the NFL, but the last and only time Seattle had home field throughout, they steamrolled their way to the Superb Owl. Choo Choo!

I think the Seahawks will make it to NJ, but that fact means absolutely nothing, especially since the 2005 Seahawks took advantage of a really weak NFC, and caught a tremendous break in the NFC title game when the Panthers were missing their top 3 RBs.

 

[cacksman]

The loss to SF doesn't do anything to derail this train that is the Seattle Seahawks. Any given Sunday in the NFL, but the last and only time Seattle had home field throughout, they steamrolled their way to the Superb Owl. Choo Choo!

I think the Seahawks will make it to NJ, but that fact means absolutely nothing, especially since the 2005 Seahawks took advantage of a really weak NFC, and caught a tremendous break in the NFC title game when the Panthers were missing their top 3 RBs.

People like to point out how some wild card team always ends up making the big game, but how many times has that happened when a team had to win in Seattle? My point is that I think Seattle getting home field means more than any other team getting home field. Exhibit A: SF@SEA the last 2 games: 71-16. SEA@SF the last 2 games: 32-24.

ETA: The Panthers had no chance in that NFCCG. I was actually re-watching that game earlier today, and not even Adrian Peterson in his prime would have been enough to beat Seattle that day.

 

[drummer]

The loss to SF doesn't do anything to derail this train that is the Seattle Seahawks. Any given Sunday in the NFL, but the last and only time Seattle had home field throughout, they steamrolled their way to the Superb Owl. Choo Choo!

I think the Seahawks will make it to NJ, but that fact means absolutely nothing, especially since the 2005 Seahawks took advantage of a really weak NFC, and caught a tremendous break in the NFC title game when the Panthers were missing their top 3 RBs.

People like to point out how some wild card team always ends up making the big game, but how many times has that happened when a team had to win in Seattle? My point is that I think Seattle getting home field means more than any other team getting home field. Exhibit A: SF@SEA the last 2 games: 71-16. SEA@SF the last 2 games: 32-24.

Yeah, there is your historic sample size right there.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The loss to SF doesn't do anything to derail this train that is the Seattle Seahawks. Any given Sunday in the NFL, but the last and only time Seattle had home field throughout, they steamrolled their way to the Superb Owl. Choo Choo!

I think the Seahawks will make it to NJ, but that fact means absolutely nothing, especially since the 2005 Seahawks took advantage of a really weak NFC, and caught a tremendous break in the NFC title game when the Panthers were missing their top 3 RBs.

People like to point out how some wild card team always ends up making the big game, but how many times has that happened when a team had to win in Seattle?

Again, that means absolutely nothing. Just because something, like a team having to win at Seattle in the playoffs and then making the Super Bowl, has never happened before doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.

We all know how good Seattle is at home, and it will take a tremendous game from someone to beat them there in this postseason, but what happened in the past with other teams has zero to do with it.

 

[drummer]

The loss to SF doesn't do anything to derail this train that is the Seattle Seahawks. Any given Sunday in the NFL, but the last and only time Seattle had home field throughout, they steamrolled their way to the Superb Owl. Choo Choo!

I think the Seahawks will make it to NJ, but that fact means absolutely nothing, especially since the 2005 Seahawks took advantage of a really weak NFC, and caught a tremendous break in the NFC title game when the Panthers were missing their top 3 RBs.

People like to point out how some wild card team always ends up making the big game, but how many times has that happened when a team had to win in Seattle?

Again, that means absolutely nothing. Just because something, like a team having to win at Seattle in the playoffs and then making the Super Bowl, has never happened before doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.

We all know how good Seattle is at home, and it will take a tremendous game from someone to beat them there in this postseason, but what happened in the past with other teams has zero to do with it.

I still can't understand how cacksman thinks a WC team has never it made it through SEA.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think he means that a team has never won at Seattle and then gone on to play in the Super Bowl, which I think is correct, but given that Seattle has had less than 10 home playoff games ever, and only lost three (I think), that is hardly something worth mentioning. Plus, it implies that a team was so mentally spent from winning in Seattle that they were easy pickings for their next playoff opponent.

 

[drummer]

I think he means that a team has never won at Seattle and then gone on to play in the Super Bowl, which I think is correct, but given that Seattle has had less than 10 home playoff games ever, and only lost three (I think), that is hardly something worth mentioning. Plus, it implies that a team was so mentally spent from winning in Seattle that they were easy pickings for their next playoff opponent.

So therefore the 2004 Rams were so spent after beating SEA at home that they couldn't beat ATL, who were so spent beating STL because STL beat SEA at home in a WC round, and thus ATL eventually losing to PHI on the road in the conference championship.

Just using cacksman logic BTW.

 

[cacksman]

I think he means that a team has never won at Seattle and then gone on to play in the Super Bowl, which I think is correct, but given that Seattle has had less than 10 home playoff games ever, and only lost three (I think), that is hardly something worth mentioning. Plus, it implies that a team was so mentally spent from winning in Seattle that they were easy pickings for their next playoff opponent.

So therefore the 2004 Rams were so spent after beating SEA at home that they couldn't beat ATL, who were so spent beating STL because STL beat SEA at home in a WC round, and thus ATL eventually losing to PHI on the road in the conference championship.

Just using cacksman logic BTW.

 

[devouredbychaos]

I don't see Seattle or Denver making it to be honest. I can see Philly or the Saints for the NFC and the Pats or Bengals in the AFC.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Broncos are completely gutless. They will not win a game in the playoffs.

 

[Raider Nation]

Probably not inevitable.

 

[mad sweeney]

I don't see Seattle or Denver making it to be honest. I can see Philly or the Saints for the NFC and the Pats or Bengals in the AFC.

Yeah, I don't see any possible way Seattle could beat the saints.

 

[BassNBrew]

Recent games of note...

Seattle beats NO, loses to SF

NO beats Car and SF, loses to NE and Sea

SF beats Sea, loses to NO and Car

Car beats NE and SF, loses to NO

NE beats NO and Den, loses to Car

 

[bostonfred]

Recent games of note...

Seattle beats NO, loses to SF

NO beats Car and SF, loses to NE and Sea

SF beats Sea, loses to NO and Car

Car beats NE and SF, loses to NO

NE beats NO and Den, loses to Car

Denver beat kc twice, loses to ne, indy, san diego.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Well, Denver won't lose to Houston or Oakland so it looks like they are escaping with the division crown, but if they lose the HFA to NE that's a problem for them. NE still has a couple tough games left vs Mia & Bal.

As has been oft stated, Seattle just has to win two at home.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Seattle has HFA pretty much locked up. Unless some NFC team unravels the mystery of playing them in Seattle and can get over playing that aggressive style of football , and if the Seahawks remain without injury, it will be a very difficult task to pass them on the road to the Superbowl. If by chance someone does beat them in Seattle the Super Bowl will be a step down in Competition. Somehow I wished the schedule makers had the Seahawks traveling to the Dome this year instead of the other way around but those were the breaks.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Well, Denver won't lose to Houston or Oakland so it looks like they are escaping with the division crown, but if they lose the HFA to NE that's a problem for them. NE still has a couple tough games left vs Mia & Bal.

As has been oft stated, Seattle just has to win two at home.

yeah no way in hades peyton wins a playoff game in NE.

 

[LAbronco]

Weird. I thought the Pats just lost Gronk? Maybe it was just a dream...

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Weird. I thought the Pats just lost Gronk? Maybe it was just a dream...

Pats have heart. They don't lay down and die like the Broncos do.

 

[LuckyOne]

Weird. I thought the Pats just lost Gronk? Maybe it was just a dream...

Pats have heart. They don't lay down and die like the Broncos do.

Oops!

 

[IheartGuinness]

Chicago is the team everyone is overlooking. I think they're absolutely unstoppable. They're a lock to win the division because Detroit will choke. And once they do, they'll walk to the Super Bowl and tear through the playoffs.