Is Adrian Peterson the new Tyrone Wheatley? (1 Viewer)

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.

Thoughts?

 

[Mediocrity]

It's hard to beat out Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson, but I'm sure if his number is called, he'll do a fine job.

 

[kevthegrad]

An interesting question. As the toilet bowl and poot cup champion in my league, I am qualified to answer your questions.

I would say Peterson is closer to Edgar Bennett than he is Tyrone Wheatley.

Thank you.

THE Grad.....

 

[Colin Dowling]

Peterson has the most devestating stiff arm coming out of college that i have ever seen. If he is going to fail, I suspect it will have to do with something other then his ability to run over people (which was Wheatley's failing, ultimately.)

 

[kevthegrad]

It's hard to beat out Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson, but I'm sure if his number is called, he'll do a fine job.

I can't tell if you're serious so I will hold off on mocking you but also hold off on commending you on your dry sense of humour.

 

[EBF]

In a word? Not at all.

They're completely different players. Dayne is a much better comparison for Wheatley.

Peterson is going to be very good in the NFL. He has good acceleration, quick feet, and great balance. He and Calvin Johnson are the two elite skill position prospects in the draft. Lynch, Jarrett, and Ginn trail slightly behind those two.

 

[Dazz]

Peterson is one of the more driven players in college football. He has had one major injury and it's debatable as to whether or not it was a fluke or a product of his running style; a collarbone injury and ankle sprain are not something that indicates being 'injury prone'.

I can understand having a gut feeling about someone, but there are times when that's really all it is. Especially when there's little or no evidence to support it. There are other concerns you could have about him, like his upright running style or whether he'll last long in the NFL when he initiates contact so much, but worrying about him becoming Tyrone Wheatley isn't very practical.

 

[Seymour Corn]

The guy has missed or played very little in 11 games over the last 2 seasons. I think there are injury concerns there.

 

[Ryan_21]

It's hard to beat out Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson, but I'm sure if his number is called, he'll do a fine job.

I can't tell if you're serious so I will hold off on mocking you but also hold off on commending you on your dry sense of humour.

I thought that was pretty freaking funny

 

[Dazz]

Again, those are because of a broken collarbone and ankle sprain. Neither of those are injuries that suggest being injury prone, especially the collarbone. If they become reoccurring or regressive, then there's an issue.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

We can't really give you thoughts on your 'gut feeling.' If you provide some solid facts and analysis then we can debate, but otherwise its just one gut feeling against another.

 

[lod2005]

His running style will lead to injuries. Then he gets hurt falling into the endzone. That's all I need to know.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Adrian Peterson was the best high school RB prospect I have ever seen, and he was a great college RB. IMO, he will be a better RB than Reggie Bush in the NFL. He has an amazing blend of speed, skill, and power. He reminds me most of Eric Dickerson. Even with the collerbone injury, I still think he is a top 5 pick in the 2007 draft.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

We can't really give you thoughts on your 'gut feeling.' If you provide some solid facts and analysis then we can debate, but otherwise its just one gut feeling against another.

Other people have managed to do it.

 

[Ryan_21]

His running style will lead to injuries. Then he gets hurt falling into the endzone. That's all I need to know.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

They have similar running styles yes, but Peterson has one thing that Wheatley did not have in the NFL...speed. People forget that Wheatley had knee problems his senior year and lost a step. His sophomore and junior year, he was great and likely would have been a top 3 pick. He came back for his senior year and got hurt and I don't think he was ever the same. Those who saw him before and after his senior year know that he wasn't the same back. So, unless Peterson loses a step or two, Peterson will be much better pro IMO...

 

[Assani Fisher]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

We can't really give you thoughts on your 'gut feeling.' If you provide some solid facts and analysis then we can debate, but otherwise its just one gut feeling against another.

Other people have managed to do it.

Ok. I disagree. I have a gut feeling that he will be very good.

 

[eoMMan]

My gut feeling tells me I have to go to the bathroom.

But about Peterson, there's no doubt that the kid has talent. I think the injuries are what's going to hurt him. I look at him more like a Chris Brown type. He's that taller running back who has a knack for getting hurt. When he's healthy, he's money though.

 

[Chaos]

I have a feeling he is more like Eddie George than Dickerson. That isn't all bad in the slightest.

I think the physical running styles of these two lead to dimished speed over the years. We saw it in Eddie and I think we will see it in AP.

This is no knock on AP and he should still be a high pick and do well in the NFL.

 

[eoMMan]

I'm wondering what team would be interested in drafting a back and taking Peterson. A lot of people have Peterson going in the top 5 picks, so in the running would be teams like:

Detroit: Kevin Jones had a good year, even though he got knicked up. They are in need of help elsewhere.

Oakland: Are they ready to give up on Lamont Jordan? I think they need help in other areas too, such as QB and O-Line.

Tampa Bay: Cadillac has been sort of a let down this year, but I wouldn't say he's been horrible. I don't see TB spending another high pick on a RB here.

Cleveland: I see Cleveland drafting a QB here, maybe Quinn or Brohm.

Houston: Even though Ron Dayne just had "A" good game, it wouldn't surprise me to see Houston take a shot at Peterson here. They are problem sick of hearing how they passed on Reggie Bush and will look to redeem themselves by taking one of the highest rated RB's on the board.

Arizona: They just got Edge, but they will probably have a new coach too. They might draft another RB such as Peterson to light a fire under Edge and add some depth.

Washington: I don't see them drafting an RB here. They just signed Betts to an extension and Portis will be the starter once he's healthy.

So, IMO, I see Houston as the team trying to draft Peterson. We'll know more once the season is over and have a definite idea of what the draft order will be.

 

[MLBrandow]

I think Peterson's running style might do him in at the pro level, but that still doesn't warrant comparisons to Tyrone Wheatley.

When Peterson puts on his pro weight after the season, Wheatley will still have a good 15 lbs on him.

To compare Peterson to Wheatley would be calling him fat, slow and bad. If any of these were remotely accurate, he wouldn't be a lock for the top-10 (probably top-5).

 

[Marc Faletti]

Adrian Peterson is the only player I've ever seen who looks like a video game RB on an actual football field. People literally bounce off him; I'd swear he was made of nerf if I didn't know better.

On top of the physical tools, he has great vision and that fluidity as a player that EBF and Bloom describe in the scouting thread. Everything about playing RB comes so naturally to him, whether he's shredding teams up the middle, beating DBs to the edges, or catching-and-running.

In fact, his combo of size, skill, and instincts are so rare, so incredible that his body may not be able to handle the stress -- which could it explain why he's so fragile and may continue to remain that way.

 

[Traders2001]

Reminds me of Chris Brown ( The way he runs , the stiff arm and the injuries ) yep he is the next Chrissy but he is nickname will become Adrian ne like Rocky s wife .

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

I'm wondering what team would be interested in drafting a back and taking Peterson. A lot of people have Peterson going in the top 5 picks, so in the running would be teams like:

Detroit: Kevin Jones had a good year, even though he got knicked up. They are in need of help elsewhere.

Oakland: Are they ready to give up on Lamont Jordan? I think they need help in other areas too, such as QB and O-Line.

Tampa Bay: Cadillac has been sort of a let down this year, but I wouldn't say he's been horrible. I don't see TB spending another high pick on a RB here.

Cleveland: I see Cleveland drafting a QB here, maybe Quinn or Brohm.

Houston: Even though Ron Dayne just had "A" good game, it wouldn't surprise me to see Houston take a shot at Peterson here. They are problem sick of hearing how they passed on Reggie Bush and will look to redeem themselves by taking one of the highest rated RB's on the board.

Arizona: They just got Edge, but they will probably have a new coach too. They might draft another RB such as Peterson to light a fire under Edge and add some depth.

Washington: I don't see them drafting an RB here. They just signed Betts to an extension and Portis will be the starter once he's healthy.

So, IMO, I see Houston as the team trying to draft Peterson. We'll know more once the season is over and have a definite idea of what the draft order will be.

I think AD could lose a leg in a freak watersking accident and the Texans would still take him. Wherever they end up picking is the aboslute lowest point in the draft he could fall. The only question really is if he will fall that far.

 

[LHUCKS]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George.

 

[Englishteacher]

WHEATLEY vs. PETERSON on talent: No Comparison

WHEATLEY vs. PETERSON on injuries: hmmmmmmmmm...........

I sure hope Peterson stays healthy because i want to see him run all over the NFL.

Incidentally, which is the most frequently broken bone in the human body according to Trivial Pursuit (had this question come up this Christmas)?

THE COLLARBONE

 

[Colin Dowling]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George.

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

 

[JayMan]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George.

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

 

[Berserker]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

You could be right about 'injury prone', but you are way off on 'no fire'. He plays and runs harder than anyone I can remember. I think his running style is closest to Jim Brown. I'm not saying he'll be as good as Brown... no one ever will. But Peterson's combination of speed, vision and that 'get the hell off me' power is Brown-like. He also puts in the work in the weight room and trains hard in the off-season. He has plenty of fire.If anything takes him down, it will be injuries. Like a couple of people mentioned, his style will probably lead to a shortened and/or injury reduced career. I hope not because he has the potential to be an all-time great.

 

[Colin Dowling]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George.

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Absolutely. Eddie Geoge had an excellent career.

 

[WhoDat]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.

Thoughts?

He played his sophmore season with a set of dinged ankles. It was suggested that he shut it down at one point. The kid finished the year out. His decision. Having watched him closely through high school and college, I don't see the lack of competitive fire.Absolute...physical...freak. The last type of running back you would want to see coming through a hole in the 3rd or 4th quarter of a football game. He is the prototypical, thumping, ground pounder.

He reminds me of E. Campbell in terms of talent and his physical ability vs. the physical ability of those he is playing against. Campbell was unique and there was a large gap between his combination of talent/size and the talent/size of those tasked with stopping him. The same can be said for Peterson.

I think Peterson's career will end up being very similiar to Campbell's, which is to say he will have 3-5 years of remarkable production and...suddenly...be done. Peterson will be very, very, very good but for a short period of time, as the carries; hits coupled with his playing style will take their toll quickly.

 

[JayMan]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.

Thoughts?

He played his sophmore season with a set of dinged ankles. It was suggested that he shut it down at one point. The kid finished the year out. His decision. Having watched him closely through high school and college, I don't see the lack of competitive fire.Absolute...physical...freak. The last type of running back you would want to see coming through a hole in the 3rd or 4th quarter of a football game. He is the prototypical, thumping, ground pounder.

He reminds me of E. Campbell in terms of talent and his physical ability vs. the physical ability of those he is playing against. Campbell was unique and there was a large gap between his combination of talent/size and the talent/size of those tasked with stopping him. The same can be said for Peterson.

I think Peterson's career will end up being very similiar to Campbell's, which is to say he will have 3-5 years of remarkable production and...suddenly...be done. Peterson will be very, very, very good but for a short period of time, as the carries; hits coupled with his playing style will take their toll quickly.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1978 hou | 15 | 302 1450 4.8 13 | 12 48 4.0 0 || 1979 hou | 16 | 368 1697 4.6 19 | 16 94 5.9 0 || 1980 hou | 15 | 373 1934 5.2 13 | 11 47 4.3 0 || 1981 hou | 16 | 361 1376 3.8 10 | 36 156 4.3 0 || 1982 hou | 9 | 157 538 3.4 2 | 18 130 7.2 0 || 1983 hou | 14 | 322 1301 4.0 12 | 19 216 11.4 0 || 1984 nor | 8 | 50 190 3.8 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 || 1984 hou | 6 | 96 278 2.9 4 | 3 27 9.0 0 || 1985 nor | 16 | 158 643 4.1 1 | 6 88 14.7 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 115 | 2187 9407 4.3 74 | 121 806 6.7 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

 

[JohnnyU]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George. :(

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Absolutely. Eddie Geoge had an excellent career.

Look at that lousy yard per carry average. Only two years over 4.0, and even then it was only 4.1.

 

[WhoDat]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.

Thoughts?

He played his sophmore season with a set of dinged ankles. It was suggested that he shut it down at one point. The kid finished the year out. His decision. Having watched him closely through high school and college, I don't see the lack of competitive fire.Absolute...physical...freak. The last type of running back you would want to see coming through a hole in the 3rd or 4th quarter of a football game. He is the prototypical, thumping, ground pounder.

He reminds me of E. Campbell in terms of talent and his physical ability vs. the physical ability of those he is playing against. Campbell was unique and there was a large gap between his combination of talent/size and the talent/size of those tasked with stopping him. The same can be said for Peterson.

I think Peterson's career will end up being very similiar to Campbell's, which is to say he will have 3-5 years of remarkable production and...suddenly...be done. Peterson will be very, very, very good but for a short period of time, as the carries; hits coupled with his playing style will take their toll quickly.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1978 hou | 15 | 302 1450 4.8 13 | 12 48 4.0 0 || 1979 hou | 16 | 368 1697 4.6 19 | 16 94 5.9 0 || 1980 hou | 15 | 373 1934 5.2 13 | 11 47 4.3 0 || 1981 hou | 16 | 361 1376 3.8 10 | 36 156 4.3 0 || 1982 hou | 9 | 157 538 3.4 2 | 18 130 7.2 0 || 1983 hou | 14 | 322 1301 4.0 12 | 19 216 11.4 0 || 1984 nor | 8 | 50 190 3.8 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 || 1984 hou | 6 | 96 278 2.9 4 | 3 27 9.0 0 || 1985 nor | 16 | 158 643 4.1 1 | 6 88 14.7 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 115 | 2187 9407 4.3 74 | 121 806 6.7 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Hypothetically, if I had 1.01 and Peterson was a lock to match Campbell's numbers, then I take him without hesitation or regret. Campbell's run between 78-83 put him into the Hall of Fame. I would gladly take that type of 6 year run from Peterson as a FF owner.

 

[Colin Dowling]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George.

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Absolutely. Eddie Geoge had an excellent career.

Look at that lousy yard per carry average. Only two years over 4.0, and even then it was only 4.1.

Not this again. George had a low YPC because he almost NEVER broke runs over 20 yards. IIRC, he had 2 in his final 5 years in the league.

 

[LHUCKS]

Anybody know how George's 40 times compare to Peterson's?

I would guess Peterson is faster, but am not sure by how much.

 

[LHUCKS]

Anybody know how George's 40 times compare to Peterson's?I would guess Peterson is faster, but am not sure by how much.

Just found this at Wikipedia...

Peterson is 6'2" about 225 pounds, 40 time reported between 4:35-4:45 [citation needed] and is often compared to Eric Dickerson.

I personally think he looks more like George than Dickerson when he runs the ball. If he indeed runs a 4.35 he's definitely faster than George.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I'm wondering what team would be interested in drafting a back and taking Peterson. A lot of people have Peterson going in the top 5 picks, so in the running would be teams likeetroit: Kevin Jones had a good year, even though he got knicked up. They are in need of help elsewhere.Oakland: Are they ready to give up on Lamont Jordan? I think they need help in other areas too, such as QB and O-Line.Tampa Bay: Cadillac has been sort of a let down this year, but I wouldn't say he's been horrible. I don't see TB spending another high pick on a RB here.Cleveland: I see Cleveland drafting a QB here, maybe Quinn or Brohm.Houston: Even though Ron Dayne just had "A" good game, it wouldn't surprise me to see Houston take a shot at Peterson here. They are problem sick of hearing how they passed on Reggie Bush and will look to redeem themselves by taking one of the highest rated RB's on the board.Arizona: They just got Edge, but they will probably have a new coach too. They might draft another RB such as Peterson to light a fire under Edge and add some depth.Washington: I don't see them drafting an RB here. They just signed Betts to an extension and Portis will be the starter once he's healthy.So, IMO, I see Houston as the team trying to draft Peterson. We'll know more once the season is over and have a definite idea of what the draft order will be.

If Quinn is gone(which looks likely) then Cleveland would most definitely consider him.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Cleveland or Houston. I could see Oakland selecting him as well.

 

[One]

I wonder what a lights out performance this Monday could do for his draft.

As a Raiders fan I pray we get Quinn either way. (1st pick or Det passing on him). RB's aren't hard to find in FA, but a franchise QB is the tough one.

Peterson to Cleveland or Houston really isn't far out of the question.

 

[walkwithme]

I'm wondering what team would be interested in drafting a back and taking Peterson. A lot of people have Peterson going in the top 5 picks, so in the running would be teams likeetroit: Kevin Jones had a good year, even though he got knicked up. They are in need of help elsewhere.Oakland: Are they ready to give up on Lamont Jordan? I think they need help in other areas too, such as QB and O-Line.Tampa Bay: Cadillac has been sort of a let down this year, but I wouldn't say he's been horrible. I don't see TB spending another high pick on a RB here.Cleveland: I see Cleveland drafting a QB here, maybe Quinn or Brohm.Houston: Even though Ron Dayne just had "A" good game, it wouldn't surprise me to see Houston take a shot at Peterson here. They are problem sick of hearing how they passed on Reggie Bush and will look to redeem themselves by taking one of the highest rated RB's on the board.Arizona: They just got Edge, but they will probably have a new coach too. They might draft another RB such as Peterson to light a fire under Edge and add some depth.Washington: I don't see them drafting an RB here. They just signed Betts to an extension and Portis will be the starter once he's healthy.So, IMO, I see Houston as the team trying to draft Peterson. We'll know more once the season is over and have a definite idea of what the draft order will be.

If Quinn is gone(which looks likely) then Cleveland would most definitely consider him.

I see no way Quinn gets past Detroit. He plays in an NFL offense already and Kitna is on the wrong side of the 30's next year. Peterson or CJ to the Raiders. With Moss on the decline and Porter likely out the Raiders will take CJ his talent is on Moss' level but personality completely opposite.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I wonder what a lights out performance this Monday could do for his draft.As a Raiders fan I pray we get Quinn either way. (1st pick or Det passing on him). RB's aren't hard to find in FA, but a franchise QB is the tough one. Peterson to Cleveland or Houston really isn't far out of the question.

52 Yards on 19 carries in regular time Both TD's were quite nice though.

 

[redman]

Anybody know how George's 40 times compare to Peterson's?I would guess Peterson is faster, but am not sure by how much.

Just found this at Wikipedia...

Peterson is 6'2" about 225 pounds, 40 time reported between 4:35-4:45 [citation needed] and is often compared to Eric Dickerson.

I personally think he looks more like George than Dickerson when he runs the ball. If he indeed runs a 4.35 he's definitely faster than George.

I think he runs "heavier" than Dickerson. He may be better compared to Jamal Lewis, who IMHO had more breakaway speed than did George but also ran (and runs) physically like Peterson. Obviously, Peterson is not as stocky as Lewis, but I'm simply comparing running style.Here's another thought: how would you compare him to Steven Jackson?

 

[Ed Wood]

Bump

 

[Gottabesweet]

Or the next Chris Brown.

 

[Biabreakable]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George. :X

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Eddie George one of my favorite players ever.You have to have some special toughness to be like Eddie George though and I have not seen anything from AP to indicate he is that tough or can handle that many carries over a long period of time.That said I think he is a lot faster than George ever was so he shouldn't need as many carries as George did to be a productive Rb.

 

[Biabreakable]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George. :X

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Absolutely. Eddie Geoge had an excellent career.

Look at that lousy yard per carry average. Only two years over 4.0, and even then it was only 4.1.

So?

 

[LHUCKS]

Anybody know how George's 40 times compare to Peterson's?I would guess Peterson is faster, but am not sure by how much.

Just found this at Wikipedia...

Peterson is 6'2" about 225 pounds, 40 time reported between 4:35-4:45 [citation needed] and is often compared to Eric Dickerson.

I personally think he looks more like George than Dickerson when he runs the ball. If he indeed runs a 4.35 he's definitely faster than George.

I think he runs "heavier" than Dickerson. He may be better compared to Jamal Lewis, who IMHO had more breakaway speed than did George but also ran (and runs) physically like Peterson. Obviously, Peterson is not as stocky as Lewis, but I'm simply comparing running style.Here's another thought: how would you compare him to Steven Jackson?

I keep thinking of George because of his height and upright running style...George was faster than people realize.Peterson is more physical than Dickerson but Dickerson has such a unique, gliding style I don't thinks its a perfect match.Jackson doesn't run as upright.Lewis is a pretty good comparison although I doubt AP will be as physical as Lewis is in the NFL. Chris Brown definitely isn't as physical, but has a similar skillset IMHO. There really doesn't seem to be too many comparisons because there aren't a lot of 6'2" RBs with AP's skills. It will be interesting to see how he fares at the next level. I think he's a lock to be a solid player, but not the great player some might expect. I personally believe Lynch has more upside.

 

[Liquid Tension]

He kind of reminds me of Eddie George.

Really? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that one, although now that you bring it up, the comparison seems pretty good. I think AP will prove to be faster and thus more prone to long runs then EG, but that's a good comparison LHUCKS.

Would you be dissapointed if you had the 1.01 pick in your [DYNASTY] league and Peterson had this career?...Suppose you know he'll get these stats in the NFL... do you still take him at 1.01 or you go with Lynch or Johnson?

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 hou |  16 |   335   1368	4.1	8 |	23	182   7.9	0 || 1997 ten |  16 |   357   1399	3.9	6 |	 7	 44   6.3	1 || 1998 ten |  16 |   348   1294	3.7	5 |	37	310   8.4	1 || 1999 ten |  16 |   320   1304	4.1	9 |	47	458   9.7	4 || 2000 ten |  16 |   403   1509	3.7   14 |	50	453   9.1	2 || 2001 ten |  16 |   315	939	3.0	5 |	37	279   7.5	0 || 2002 ten |  16 |   343   1165	3.4   12 |	36	255   7.1	2 || 2003 ten |  16 |   312   1031	3.3	5 |	22	163   7.4	0 || 2004 dal |  14 |   132	432	3.3	4 |	 9	 83   9.2	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 142 |  2865  10441	3.6   68 |   268   2227   8.3   10 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

That's 8 years out of 9 in the top24RBs (usually good for RB1 or RB2 in standard ppr leagues);That's 4 years out of 9 in the top12RBs (usually good for RB1 in standard ppr leagues);That's 2 years out of 9 in the top3RBs - eliteness...Is he your choice with the 1.01 pick?(I'm not trying to make a point - I'm just looking for thoughts)

Absolutely, if you could lock in those numbers

 

[Liquid Tension]

George and Dickerson are obvious comparisons when you look at taller backs. What do you guys think of a comparison to Steven Jackson? How are AP's hands?

BTW, I wonder if Brandon Jacobs even deserves mentioning in this group? Obviously, not in terms of Dickerson's and George's careers, but in terms of style etc...

Thoughts?