Is all play really the way to go ? (1 Viewer)

[SwampDawg]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much. Unless Maclin and Moss do hardly anything tonight it looks like the two highest scoring teams in our league will both be 5-5 and on the outside looking in as of this week, not even in the same division. Meanwhile two division leaders are well over 200 total points behind (20 points per week). I know my league will never switch, but in a baseball league I'm in we used all play this year for the regular season and it seemed to eliminate luck of the draw in scheduling.

Full disclosure, I am the high scoring team at 5-4, I have the #1 QB, #3 and #5 RB's, #2, #14, & #18 WR's, and the #5 TE yet I'm about to lose to 3-6 team averaging 25 points less then me a week even though I have the 2nd most points going into tonight, he only needs 160 combined yards or a TD and 80 yards from Maclin and Moss which seems pretty likely. Twice this year I've been the 2nd high scoring team and lost, the 2nd leading scorer is now 5-5 as well and I beat him last week when I was high score and he was second highest. It's like neither of us have gotten a break.

 

[Choke]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs. You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

 

[Short Corner]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much. Unless Maclin and Moss do hardly anything tonight it looks like the two highest scoring teams in our league will both be 5-5 and on the outside looking in as of this week, not even in the same division. Meanwhile two division leaders are well over 200 total points behind (20 points per week). I know my league will never switch, but in a baseball league I'm in we used all play this year for the regular season and it seemed to eliminate luck of the draw in scheduling.Full disclosure, I am the high scoring team at 5-4, I have the #1 QB, #3 and #5 RB's, #2, #14, & #18 WR's, and the #5 TE yet I'm about to lose to 3-6 team averaging 25 points less then me a week even though I have the 2nd most points going into tonight, he only needs 160 combined yards or a TD and 80 yards from Maclin and Moss which seems pretty likely. Twice this year I've been the 2nd high scoring team and lost, the 2nd leading scorer is now 5-5 as well and I beat him last week when I was high score and he was second highest. It's like neither of us have gotten a break.

 

[_lurker_]

I'm getting frustrated that my record is 2-4 places lower than my points scored in all my leagues. I think I'll join an all-play next year and see first hand if it's more fun.

 

[Sabertooth]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs. You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

Wrong and wrong.Every year is crazy. All play generally puts the best teams into the playoffs. It is nothing like team RB at all. You do get the thrill of winning, you also get stomped when you don't product. It really does separate the good teams from the poor teams and you don't get as many teams squeaking into the playoffs.

 

[Shutout]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs. You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

Wrong and wrong.Every year is crazy. All play generally puts the best teams into the playoffs. It is nothing like team RB at all. You do get the thrill of winning, you also get stomped when you don't product. It really does separate the good teams from the poor teams and you don't get as many teams squeaking into the playoffs.

Yes, this HAS, without a doubt been one of the screwiest years ever and I have seen, over and over and over, SO MANY people posting about how how luck of the schedule and career days, etc ahve left teams with most points in the middle of the pack while strange luck leave the 7th place scorer at the top of his division by 2 games. Yes, incredibly Bizzarro world this year.I have to admit, I am one of those teams. In my main league, I have lost all 5 of the games I have lost this year by these incredible circumstances. The one hit wonders, the career days, the buzzsaw garbage points, the "I would have beat any other team by 30 but lost to the one guy that scored higher by 2". I have hit it ALL this year. And I have read up on the all play leagues and why some people support them.But in the end, even though what I think might be the best team I have ever had may not make the playoffs while some guy that has CJ Spiller as his only RB will, I still think H2H is the best way to go. Its simply the most realistic. You field a team and you play a team. You win or you lose and you feel the success or disappointment that comes with competing.In all play, yes, you may avoid the weird performances and if you generally score high you may rise to the top and make the playoffs, but that's not the same as sizing up your roster each week and selecting the starters that you think will win your game. I suppose there is a reason why The Bulls don't play the Lakers and then kick back to see if their 114 was better than 18 other NBA teams that night. There's a reason why you pit yours Vs. theirs. That's the "competition" of the event. To do it any other way, just my opinion, might as well be just put your whole roster out there and let your bench count towards your socre too. Just take all the funky stuff out. After all, if you drafted or trade for Moreno, you probably want the benefit of him when he outplays the Michael turner you had in your "starting" lineup, right? After all, your team is still better than your opponents. its just that you happened to have "bad luck" (or bad skill) and didn't make the right call. Well...that's what make the competition a competition. Like I said, I have been snake bitten so many times this year that I can't even begin to count. But at the end of the day, this game is still about the skill of acquiring and starting a team that can beat some other person's team and its what makes each week mean so much. Even if you have a loaded roster and it looks like you should walk all over your competition, you're still more likely to follow your (and their) players in a H2H match rather than if it were all play.

 

[Choke]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs. You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

Wrong and wrong.Every year is crazy. All play generally puts the best teams into the playoffs. It is nothing like team RB at all. You do get the thrill of winning, you also get stomped when you don't product. It really does separate the good teams from the poor teams and you don't get as many teams squeaking into the playoffs.

No way. I play in 4 steady leagues that are all about 20+/- years old. Let alone all the individual leagues I play and have played.This year is different. No doubt about it.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't know, I'm top scorer in both my leagues. In the all-play league I am in, my record is 73-17 and I'm in first place. In the league where I play double headers, I have most points and I am in 4th place.

All play really helps separate the consistently good teams from the also-rans. With all play you get to play everyone every week. I like that. Sizing up my opponents? Who cares, it isn't like I get to play defense against them? Fantasy football is not a real sport. It is offense only. So I play whoever I think is going to score me the most points each week regardless of who my opponent has.

Different schools of thought I guess.

Also all play eliminates the risk of a team just tanking. If they do, every other team benefits, not just those that happen to draw them in a particular week. So even if an owner quits playing mid season, his team just falls to the bottom. Start a guy on bye? No problem, everyone else benefits.

It changes the trades dynamics too as anyone you trade away will certainly be used against you.

 

[dagwood]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much. Unless Maclin and Moss do hardly anything tonight it looks like the two highest scoring teams in our league will both be 5-5 and on the outside looking in as of this week, not even in the same division. Meanwhile two division leaders are well over 200 total points behind (20 points per week). I know my league will never switch, but in a baseball league I'm in we used all play this year for the regular season and it seemed to eliminate luck of the draw in scheduling.Full disclosure, I am the high scoring team at 5-4, I have the #1 QB, #3 and #5 RB's, #2, #14, & #18 WR's, and the #5 TE yet I'm about to lose to 3-6 team averaging 25 points less then me a week even though I have the 2nd most points going into tonight, he only needs 160 combined yards or a TD and 80 yards from Maclin and Moss which seems pretty likely. Twice this year I've been the 2nd high scoring team and lost, the 2nd leading scorer is now 5-5 as well and I beat him last week when I was high score and he was second highest. It's like neither of us have gotten a break.

Time to stop crying and man up!

 

[ookook]

I prefer all-play leagues.

I play in about 8 leagues where I have to set rosters, so I can never really keep track of my opponents' teams anyway. So all-play minimizes luck with little loss in fun for me.

 

[DansRams]

We have a good set up in our dynasty league that combines H2H and All play.

12 teams three 4 team divisions. Best head to head record determines division winners (3). All play determines wild card teams (3).

This allows for the excitement of the head to head and the consistently good teams will probably make the playoffs due to all play.

 

[emge]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much. Unless Maclin and Moss do hardly anything tonight it looks like the two highest scoring teams in our league will both be 5-5 and on the outside looking in as of this week, not even in the same division. Meanwhile two division leaders are well over 200 total points behind (20 points per week). I know my league will never switch, but in a baseball league I'm in we used all play this year for the regular season and it seemed to eliminate luck of the draw in scheduling.Full disclosure, I am the high scoring team at 5-4, I have the #1 QB, #3 and #5 RB's, #2, #14, & #18 WR's, and the #5 TE yet I'm about to lose to 3-6 team averaging 25 points less then me a week even though I have the 2nd most points going into tonight, he only needs 160 combined yards or a TD and 80 yards from Maclin and Moss which seems pretty likely. Twice this year I've been the 2nd high scoring team and lost, the 2nd leading scorer is now 5-5 as well and I beat him last week when I was high score and he was second highest. It's like neither of us have gotten a break.

Same here. I am 4-6. Yet I am the highest scoring team as well. Every week in the last 4 weeks, I've gone against the highest scoring team (130-140), and I've had the 2nd highest scoring team. The following week those teams that beat me go back to their usual (80-90 pts).This week I score 128, my opp had 137. The other teams are going to win with 106, 102, 76, 77.

 

[GregR_2]

You can get results more in line with how teams scored without going all the way to all-play.

Just going to double headers goes a long way towards that. It doesn't mean a team can't still have an odd season, but they are less likely to. Even if you have, say, a string of 3 weeks of being 2nd high score and playing the high scorer, you still come out at least 3-3 rather than 0-3. That's a big difference.

It still won't assure there isn't some team that has an odd set of results, but they are much less likely to as you double the number of samples. And it's still close enough to head to head that I think it is more palatable to a lot of people than going all the way to all-play is.

 

[bryhamm]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs.

You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

 

[Sack-Religious]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.

Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?

Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?

IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

 

[Sack-Religious]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.

Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?

Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?

IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

 

[hadji]

That's why we use the victory points system for our standings. You get 2 points for a victory, 2 points for scoring in the top third of scores for the week, 1 point for scoring in the middle third of the scores for the week.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

What's all-play? You play everyone on your team?

 

[SwampDawg]

What's all-play? You play everyone on your team?

No you still set lineups but instead of playing only one team a week you play every team each week. in a 10 team league the high scoring team would go 9-0 the low scoring 0-9 for that week.

 

[Sack-Religious]

What's all-play? You play everyone on your team?

All play is where you set your lineup each week, like you normally would for a H2H matchup. But your score is compared to every other team's score that week.So, if you're in a 12 team league and score the second most points but play the highest scoring team that week your record, for that week, would be 5-1 rather than 0-1.

Over the course of the season, this system should provide a better representation of the top, middle and bottom teams as it all but eliminates "scheduling luck."

 

[Dr. No]

all play isn't the answer, it's about as fun/interesting as a total points league would be.

It mitigates luck for sure, but we are all in leagues where a few dudes don't try... if you eliminate the luck component and they never even have a chance to win, they'll leave the league.

The method we use:

12 teams, 3 divisions. CBS sportsline.

3 division winners make playoffs. Next team to make playoffs is best record of non-qualifiers. Then the last 2 spots for the playoffs you take the highest "power-ranked" teams. Power ranking is a component of record, all-play ranking, and total points.

That combination allows you to have head to head matchups that matter, but 90% of the time you're going to take the top 6 scoring teams in the league... or at least 6 of the top 7.

of course, we still need a better playoff system because single elimination (even when you give the top 2 teams a bye) still leads to some wack champs... but that's just life.

Sometimes the Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl even though they aren't the bettter team. Sometimes the Pats beat the Rams. That crap happens and everyone hates it except fans of the team that won, and haters of the team that lost, but it's life.

the only way to crown a champ completely fairly is to do total points and that's the format that will keep people's interest the least.

 

[Nefari]

all play isn't the answer, it's about as fun/interesting as a total points league would be.It mitigates luck for sure, but we are all in leagues where a few dudes don't try... if you eliminate the luck component and they never even have a chance to win, they'll leave the league.The method we use:12 teams, 3 divisions. CBS sportsline.3 division winners make playoffs. Next team to make playoffs is best record of non-qualifiers. Then the last 2 spots for the playoffs you take the highest "power-ranked" teams. Power ranking is a component of record, all-play ranking, and total points.That combination allows you to have head to head matchups that matter, but 90% of the time you're going to take the top 6 scoring teams in the league... or at least 6 of the top 7.of course, we still need a better playoff system because single elimination (even when you give the top 2 teams a bye) still leads to some wack champs... but that's just life.Sometimes the Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl even though they aren't the bettter team. Sometimes the Pats beat the Rams. That crap happens and everyone hates it except fans of the team that won, and haters of the team that lost, but it's life.the only way to crown a champ completely fairly is to do total points and that's the format that will keep people's interest the least.

I really like this format, might try it next year

 

[Billy Costigan Jr]

I think the biggest difference this year is that there are more people crying about it.

It happens every year in my league, but so be it. That's part of the fun and frustration of H2H...but there's no format more fun.

That said, this isn't a big money league, so maybe that would change my option of things.

But every year, it seems that my league has one strong team miss the playoffs or squeak in, and another team dominates but really catches all the breaks.

This year, our point leader is going to be in 9th place tomorrow morning (8 playoff teams), and another team will be tied with me at 8-2, but in 2nd place because of his 8th overall point totals.

He should barely be a playoff team but is catching teams at the right time.

POINT TO THE SHIRT PEOPLE!!!!11!!!

 

[rawdog]

We started All-Play a few years ago and it's hands-down not only more fair but more interesting than plain old boring H2H.

I really wish CBS would pick up on the trend and offer All-Play as a schedule choice so we didn't have to schedule 45 matchups a week for a 10-team league. it would be cool if they could make Live Scoring like a horse race, where teams keep moving up and down in one column as a way of keeping track.

Anyway, here's how our All-Play works as far as Playoffs. Lotta fun, little different.

Wks. 1-12

Ten-team All-Play. Everybody plays everybody each week. Can go anywhere from 9-0 to 0-9.

Wk. 13

Bye Bowl- First plays second. First gets 6 bonus pts over second. Winner

advances to Wk. 15.

Four-way Wildcard- Third, fourth, fifth and six play, w/ third getting 18

bonus pts, fourth 12, fifth 6. Top 2 scores advance

Wk. 14

Three-way game between Bye Bowl loser and WC winners. Bye Bowl loser gets 6

bonus pts against other 2 teams. Top 2 scores advance.

Wk. 15

Three-way game between Bye Bowl winner and two Wk. 14 winners. No bonus pts.

Top 2 scores advance.

Wk. 16

Super Bowl.

All ties to higher seed.

 

[radballs]

In one 10 teamer and one 12 teamer that both run the playoffs the same. In both leagues, 6 teams make the playoffs. However, in both only the top 4 by best record make the post season. The other two teams in each make by most points regardless of record.

Top teams by record get the bye with total points being the tiebreaker. Then, everyone is seeded by total points. Then, playoff teams are offset by their average weekly point differential.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

Good question. I'm curious to hear answers.

 

[Sabertooth]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

Good question. I'm curious to hear answers.

10 team league Top 6 teams make the playoffsTop 2 teams get a first round bye.First week of playoff. Teams 3-6 all play against each other. Top two advance.Second week of playoffs, remaining teams all play against each other. Top two advance.Third week, Championship game pits top two teams against one another. Team that were knocked out in the second playoff week battle it out for 3rd and 4th.

 

[duaneok66]

half the fun of FF is figuring out who to start each week . . .

sometimes when you double down on an 11, you get a two - that's the way it goes sometimes . . .

 

[Warrior]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs. You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

Wrong and wrong.Every year is crazy. All play generally puts the best teams into the playoffs. It is nothing like team RB at all. You do get the thrill of winning, you also get stomped when you don't product. It really does separate the good teams from the poor teams and you don't get as many teams squeaking into the playoffs.

No way. I play in 4 steady leagues that are all about 20+/- years old. Let alone all the individual leagues I play and have played.This year is different. No doubt about it.

You are absolutely 100% WRONG.Every year. Every sport, whether fantasy football, fantasy baseball, fantasy basketball, it doesnt matter. Every single year, there are tons of pointtotheshirt posts saying this year is soooo crazy, this year is soooo different. I've got news for you. People have short memories. This year is the same as the rest. Period.

 

[Warrior]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

Good question. I'm curious to hear answers.

10 team league Top 6 teams make the playoffsTop 2 teams get a first round bye.First week of playoff. Teams 3-6 all play against each other. Top two advance.Second week of playoffs, remaining teams all play against each other. Top two advance.Third week, Championship game pits top two teams against one another. Team that were knocked out in the second playoff week battle it out for 3rd and 4th.

There's your problem.a) Shallow league. Join a deeper league and your studs will be in your starting lineup.b) 60% of your league makes the playoffs! Thats insane...should a mediocre team really have a shot at winning the championship? No.

 

[Choke]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs.

You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

Yeah I know thats crazy talk. Who would want to do those things.

 

[Choke]

Never seen a year like this were luck of the draw in schedule is helping teams so much.

There has never been a year like this. Ever.Still doesnt make all-play the option. Thats like playing team RBs and team QBs. You cant say that winning and losing dont actually mean something, they do. Thats why it stings. Thas why it's joyful.

Wrong and wrong.Every year is crazy. All play generally puts the best teams into the playoffs. It is nothing like team RB at all. You do get the thrill of winning, you also get stomped when you don't product. It really does separate the good teams from the poor teams and you don't get as many teams squeaking into the playoffs.

No way. I play in 4 steady leagues that are all about 20+/- years old. Let alone all the individual leagues I play and have played.This year is different. No doubt about it.

You are absolutely 100% WRONG.Every year. Every sport, whether fantasy football, fantasy baseball, fantasy basketball, it doesnt matter. Every single year, there are tons of pointtotheshirt posts saying this year is soooo crazy, this year is soooo different. I've got news for you. People have short memories. This year is the same as the rest. Period.

Ok, so this year isnt any different the past couple decades we've been doin this. I'm okay with it.

 

[Sack-Religious]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

Good question. I'm curious to hear answers.

10 team league Top 6 teams make the playoffsTop 2 teams get a first round bye.First week of playoff. Teams 3-6 all play against each other. Top two advance.Second week of playoffs, remaining teams all play against each other. Top two advance.Third week, Championship game pits top two teams against one another. Team that were knocked out in the second playoff week battle it out for 3rd and 4th.

There's your problem.a) Shallow league. Join a deeper league and your studs will be in your starting lineup.b) 60% of your league makes the playoffs! Thats insane...should a mediocre team really have a shot at winning the championship? No.

There's your problem. Assuming you know every detail about his league based on it's size.The league I was referring to is also 10 teams. However, we start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), PK, DEF and have 20-person rosters, so the amount of players taken is roughly the same as most 12-teamers and the league is very competitive year to year.Who is the arbiter of mediocrity? Like many of the examples above a team could be in the top 3 in scoring yet be in 6th place due to "scheduling luck" is that 6th place team, who had the misfortune of playing a top scoring team each week truly mediocre?

 

[SWC]

i don't like it but then again i really only like Head 2 HeaD scoring with no "whole team" scoring stuff because i like real ff like we played it back in the day before the rule boys made 1 milion ways to play the game because the internet made scoring so easy i guess Im just old school

 

[CowboysFromHell]

My league used to be straight H2H, then we tried all-play and didn't like it.

We now have a hybrid: 6 pts for H2H win, then top scoring team gets 12 pts, 2nd gets 11, etc. Lowest scoring team gets 1 pt. So, best possible score in a week is 18. If you really tank, you're getting 1-5 pts. It balances a really low scoring team (ex. 6 + 4) and a high scoring team with bad schedule luck (ex. 0 + 10). Seems to work pretty well.

Now, playoffs. The last 2 years we tried a NASCAR-style approach where we "re-set" the points to bring everyone closer together. To keep everyone "in it" and interested, we put all 12 teams in the playoffs, but you start the playoffs with points based on your regular season finish. 2 years ago, I think we did 24 pts to first, 20 to second, etc. Didn't like that, so last year we tried another approach where you took your point total from the season (remember 18pts max per week) and then added your weekly score from each week of the playoffs and paid out based on that 4 number total (reg season + wk 13 + wk 14 + wk 15).

This year, we're NOT doing playoffs. We're just running our standard scoring system for 16 weeks and crown the champion based on the cumulative 16 week effort. We'll see how that works out.

Hope that helps or at least gets the wheels turning for a better way... Please do share more ideas!

 

[CowboysFromHell]

My league used to be straight H2H, then we tried all-play and didn't like it.We now have a hybrid: 6 pts for H2H win, then top scoring team gets 12 pts, 2nd gets 11, etc. Lowest scoring team gets 1 pt. So, best possible score in a week is 18. If you really tank, you're getting 1-5 pts. It balances a really low scoring team (ex. 6 + 4) and a high scoring team with bad schedule luck (ex. 0 + 10). Seems to work pretty well.Now, playoffs. The last 2 years we tried a NASCAR-style approach where we "re-set" the points to bring everyone closer together. To keep everyone "in it" and interested, we put all 12 teams in the playoffs, but you start the playoffs with points based on your regular season finish. 2 years ago, I think we did 24 pts to first, 20 to second, etc. Didn't like that, so last year we tried another approach where you took your point total from the season (remember 18pts max per week) and then added your weekly score from each week of the playoffs and paid out based on that 4 number total (reg season + wk 13 + wk 14 + wk 15).This year, we're NOT doing playoffs. We're just running our standard scoring system for 16 weeks and crown the champion based on the cumulative 16 week effort. We'll see how that works out.Hope that helps or at least gets the wheels turning for a better way... Please do share more ideas!

BTW, nobody in my league complaining any more than usual about it being a "crazy" year. Sure, we've got some of that, but no more than a "normal" year. Maybe that means we have a good system?

 

[CowboysFromHell]

Well, this thread just got a lot more interesting after tonight's game.

 

[Late225]

All play reminds me of NASCAR. I would hate it if my fantasy league reminded me of NASCAR.

 

[SofaCoach]

All play would be just like total points (which I've always thought is better). Our 21 year old league splits the pot between total points winner and H2H?Playoff Champ. The same team has won both only 5 out of the 20 previous seasons. And we generally consider the points champion the "Best Team" and League Champ.

 

[Happy]

I've been trying to get my league to do All play for a few years now. We made the transition to Double Headers, but it's still not solving the fundamental issue that you can still suffer from "Schedule Luck" and be the 3rd Highest scoring team out of 12 teams and get 2 losses for the week in double headers

Next year, if anyone has openings in an All Play league, let me know...I'm interested.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Seriously, cry me a river. Maybe the NFL should go to all play as well. I mean the Steelers put up 26 pts this week and lost, really unfortunate because that should be a enough to win.

 

[kinghill]

All Play is ######ed to use for anything other than "Power Rankings" or whining about on forums. Real men play H2H.

 

[PolishNorbi]

I truly prefer all play. Moved into #4 in scoring for the league, 5 of my 6 loses came to #1 scorer of the week, and I am essentially eliminated from the playoffs, baring a miracle.

 

[Sabertooth]

Ok, so this year isnt any different the past couple decades we've been doin this. I'm okay with it.

I was always under the impression that you were about 23 years old for some reason.

 

[Sabertooth]

All Play is ######ed to use for anything other than "Power Rankings" or whining about on forums. Real men play H2H.

Real men don't give a crap about fantasy football enough to say that "real men" do anything one way or the other.

 

[Sack-Religious]

I commish my local league and there seems to be an appetite to go to all-play.Question for those of you in all-play leagues. How do your playoffs work?Is it straight up H2H once you're in the playoffs, or is some form of all-play also at play in the playoffs?IMO, if you're using all-play to eliminate the luck in the regular season, just as much luck could go into having a lower seeded team going off in the first week of the playoffs and eliminating a top seed, would it not?

Good question. I'm curious to hear answers.

10 team league Top 6 teams make the playoffsTop 2 teams get a first round bye.First week of playoff. Teams 3-6 all play against each other. Top two advance.Second week of playoffs, remaining teams all play against each other. Top two advance.Third week, Championship game pits top two teams against one another. Team that were knocked out in the second playoff week battle it out for 3rd and 4th.

Thanks Sabertooth, this is a logical way to do playoffs in that format and definitely gives me something to work with.

 

[Choke]

Ok, so this year isnt any different the past couple decades we've been doin this. I'm okay with it.

I was always under the impression that you were about 23 years old for some reason.

I'm young at heart.

 

[uwgb96]

 

[bryhamm]

half the fun of FF is figuring out who to start each week . . .

sometimes when you double down on an 11, you get a two - that's the way it goes sometimes . . .

no one is talking about taking this part away. you still have to try and figure out what your best lineup will be.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Seriously, cry me a river. Maybe the NFL should go to all play as well. I mean the Steelers put up 26 pts this week and lost, really unfortunate because that should be a enough to win.

But the Steelers, themselves, are directly responsible for how much their opponent scored. It's called, you know, defense. How exactly do you play defense in fantasy?