Is Brandon Tate worth a dynasty roster spot? (1 Viewer)

[doubletrouble]

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/r...ng-the-missing/

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I like Tate a lot as a dynasty prospect. He is a play-maker in the open field.

 

[SSOG]

I've got him rostered (10 team league, 30 man rosters, no kickers, 271 offensive players rostered). I liked him a lot coming out of college, so I'm perfectly willing to let him sit on my bench until I can see him on the field against NFL competition.

It also helps that my league has an IR (so if he goes on NFL IR in a couple of weeks he will no longer cost a roster spot), and my league also rewards punt return yardage the same as receiving yardage. Still, I think he has a lot of upside strictly as a receiver, and our league is deep so roster spots are cheap.

 

[Avery]

I've got him rostered (10 team league, 30 man rosters, no kickers, 271 offensive players rostered). I liked him a lot coming out of college, so I'm perfectly willing to let him sit on my bench until I can see him on the field against NFL competition.It also helps that my league has an IR (so if he goes on NFL IR in a couple of weeks he will no longer cost a roster spot), and my league also rewards punt return yardage the same as receiving yardage. Still, I think he has a lot of upside strictly as a receiver, and our league is deep so roster spots are cheap.

Curious what other receivers you'd have ranked dynasty wise similar to Tate to gauge how strongly you feel about him.

 

[identikit]

Posted this in an Edelman thread, but thought it might help here as well:

Per Boston Herald beat reporter Ian Rapoport (via twitter):

'Bad break for the Patriots. Julian Edelman has a broken arm, The Herald has learned. Not sure how long he's out.'

Different types of WRs but when coupled with Galloway being cut, looks like Tate could get an opportunity.

ETA link:

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/r...s-a-broken-arm/

 

[SSOG]

I've got him rostered (10 team league, 30 man rosters, no kickers, 271 offensive players rostered). I liked him a lot coming out of college, so I'm perfectly willing to let him sit on my bench until I can see him on the field against NFL competition.It also helps that my league has an IR (so if he goes on NFL IR in a couple of weeks he will no longer cost a roster spot), and my league also rewards punt return yardage the same as receiving yardage. Still, I think he has a lot of upside strictly as a receiver, and our league is deep so roster spots are cheap.

Curious what other receivers you'd have ranked dynasty wise similar to Tate to gauge how strongly you feel about him.

In terms of young guys who have yet to do anything on the field... I like him as much as any of the 2nd or 3rd tier rookie WR prospects. I'd tier him with Louis Murphy, Heyward-Bey, Mike Thomas, Deon Butler, Sammy Stroughter, Ramses Barden. I liked him better than MoMass, Knox, and Collie, but obviously with what they've done on the field I've had to move them up. I don't hold that against Tate, though- he just hasn't had a chance to do anything yet.

 

[Avery]

I've got him rostered (10 team league, 30 man rosters, no kickers, 271 offensive players rostered). I liked him a lot coming out of college, so I'm perfectly willing to let him sit on my bench until I can see him on the field against NFL competition.It also helps that my league has an IR (so if he goes on NFL IR in a couple of weeks he will no longer cost a roster spot), and my league also rewards punt return yardage the same as receiving yardage. Still, I think he has a lot of upside strictly as a receiver, and our league is deep so roster spots are cheap.

Curious what other receivers you'd have ranked dynasty wise similar to Tate to gauge how strongly you feel about him.

In terms of young guys who have yet to do anything on the field... I like him as much as any of the 2nd or 3rd tier rookie WR prospects. I'd tier him with Louis Murphy, Heyward-Bey, Mike Thomas, Deon Butler, Sammy Stroughter, Ramses Barden. I liked him better than MoMass, Knox, and Collie, but obviously with what they've done on the field I've had to move them up. I don't hold that against Tate, though- he just hasn't had a chance to do anything yet.

Interesting.How about compared to the apples of the shark pool's eye: Morgan and Schillens?

 

[SSOG]

Interesting.How about compared to the apples of the shark pool's eye: Morgan and Schillens?

Not really an apples to apples comparison, as both Morgan and Schilens have actually shown something on the field against NFL competition. I'd take either over Tate right now, but if Tate comes back and shows even flashes against NFL competition he'll quickly join those two, MoMass, Knox, Mike Wallace, and Britt.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Here's a comment from Schefter's Twitter, fwiw:

# RT @reciever83 RT @Adam_Schefter: Any news about Pats WR Brandon Tate and WR Nunn? <----My sense is Tate plays Sunday in London.7 minutes ago from web

As a Pats fan, my gut says that T. Nunn will get the first nod over Tate, but I suppose it's entirely possible that AS has a few more connections around the league than I do. As a fan, I'm curious to see how this plays out. Hopefully one of these young guys can step it up.

 

[SSOG]

If it's looking like Tate's going to be activated, the time to add him is now.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

i drafted him at 2.1 in my rookie draft. i cant wait to see him on the field with brady throwing to him

 

[northern exposure]

If it's looking like Tate's going to be activated, the time to add him is now.

Do you think Tate will start out on Special Teams and eventually replace Aiken as the third WR? I'm not familiar with Aiken and his talent, how would you rate Tate vs. Aiken?

 

[TheBradyBunch]

If it's looking like Tate's going to be activated, the time to add him is now.

Do you think Tate will start out on Special Teams and eventually replace Aiken as the third WR? I'm not familiar with Aiken and his talent, how would you rate Tate vs. Aiken?

IF Tate gets activated, it should be because he's a top notch returner. Due to depleted numbers, he'd then also probably be added to the back-end of the WR group. Aiken's basically a special teams ace that's having to play WR because there's nobody else. From a dynasty perspective, if that's what you're asking, Aiken has zero value. For this season only, it's tough to imagine Tate providing too much at WR given that's he's only started practicing. Learning the Pats system and getting in the good graces of Brady takes time. If he's a first round talent, though, as some have said..I suppose it's possible that he could contribute earlier than expected.

 

[az_prof]

If it's looking like Tate's going to be activated, the time to add him is now.

Do you think Tate will start out on Special Teams and eventually replace Aiken as the third WR? I'm not familiar with Aiken and his talent, how would you rate Tate vs. Aiken?

I just dropped Stuckey to pick him up with this expectation in my dynasty. He is one year removed from a knee injury now but he hasn't had a chance to really run in that offense so I doubt he will do much as a receiver this year. However, what I look for in deep dynasty sleepers is upside and he seems to have it in spades. This is a guy that many think was a better receiver than his teammate, Nicks, and we have seen what he is doing. I will stash him until training camp next year and then reevaluate.

 

[northern exposure]

If it's looking like Tate's going to be activated, the time to add him is now.

Do you think Tate will start out on Special Teams and eventually replace Aiken as the third WR? I'm not familiar with Aiken and his talent, how would you rate Tate vs. Aiken?

IF Tate gets activated, it should be because he's a top notch returner. Due to depleted numbers, he'd then also probably be added to the back-end of the WR group. Aiken's basically a special teams ace that's having to play WR because there's nobody else. From a dynasty perspective, if that's what you're asking, Aiken has zero value. For this season only, it's tough to imagine Tate providing too much at WR given that's he's only started practicing. Learning the Pats system and getting in the good graces of Brady takes time. If he's a first round talent, though, as some have said..I suppose it's possible that he could contribute earlier than expected.

Thanks. I was wondering about Aiken and Tate from a dynasty perspective.

 

[northern exposure]

If it's looking like Tate's going to be activated, the time to add him is now.

Do you think Tate will start out on Special Teams and eventually replace Aiken as the third WR? I'm not familiar with Aiken and his talent, how would you rate Tate vs. Aiken?

I just dropped Stuckey to pick him up with this expectation in my dynasty. He is one year removed from a knee injury now but he hasn't had a chance to really run in that offense so I doubt he will do much as a receiver this year. However, what I look for in deep dynasty sleepers is upside and he seems to have it in spades. This is a guy that many think was a better receiver than his teammate, Nicks, and we have seen what he is doing. I will stash him until training camp next year and then reevaluate.

Thanks.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Interesting tweet from Mike Reiss this morning:

# @K_CanadaJr Nunn and Tate did travel. In terms of No. 3, Aiken might be the first option for this week. Think Tate will be active.19 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to K_CanadaJr

Mike Reiss Twitter

 

[Boston]

As long as Welker and Moss remain healthy and playing at a high level whoever is the Pats #3 will have limited value. Also, you have to remember that Endelman was playing QB last year at Kent State which means (to me at least) he has a pretty big upside since he's still learning the position. I see him remaining a piece of the puzzle for awhile. So, basically that means Tate's upside during the Moss-Welker era is probably what Stallworth did a few years ago and since he's coming off a major injury and is a rookie it could be a few years before he can even reach that level (if he ever does).

I don't think he's a bad guy to stow away since he is physically gifted and is playing in a very good offense but I really don't see him being fantasy relevant this year or in 2010. After that it's anyone's guess...and you really won't even be able to project that until you see him play next year (i.e. another year removed from the injury and with a year of NFL experience under his belt).

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Here's an article that I wrote on the UNC trio (Nicks, Tate, Foster) before the draft:

http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/1/..._brooks_foster/

 

[az_prof]

Regarding Endelman as a threat: I don't see it. Upside? How many top 20 WRs can you name who changed to the WR position in Pros? Does he have more ability than Matt Jones or Brad Smith? I don't know if Tate will pan out but the fact that he was a third round pick despite having suffered a serious injury and a pot smoking charge makes me think he must have talent in spades. With my deep dynasty sleepers I want a guy who has a very high ceiling and Tate has it. He may never fulfill it, but at least he has a chance to replace Moss someday.

 

[Boston]

Regarding Endelman as a threat: I don't see it. Upside? How many top 20 WRs can you name who changed to the WR position in Pros? Does he have more ability than Matt Jones or Brad Smith? I don't know if Tate will pan out but the fact that he was a third round pick despite having suffered a serious injury and a pot smoking charge makes me think he must have talent in spades. With my deep dynasty sleepers I want a guy who has a very high ceiling and Tate has it. He may never fulfill it, but at least he has a chance to replace Moss someday.

I could not disagree with you more about Endelman. The coaching staff loves him and in a short period of time (while changing positions) he already seems to have a decent handle of the Patriot offense which isn't easy (see Galloway, Hayes and Chad Jackson). Now, I don't think Endelman will ever be anything special Fantasywise during the Moss-Welker era. Yet, I can almost guarantee you he will remain a viable and active option who will get his share of catches which will make it even more difficult for a WR like Tate to put up quality fantasy numbers. At the end of the day there are only so many receptions to go around and if your name isn't Moss or Welker it will be extremely difficult to put up numbers with any type of consistency.

 

[Captain Hook]

guys - at least spell his name right if you are going to analyze him - it is EDELMAN

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

As long as Welker and Moss remain healthy and playing at a high level whoever is the Pats #3 will have limited value. Also, you have to remember that Endelman was playing QB last year at Kent State which means (to me at least) he has a pretty big upside since he's still learning the position. I see him remaining a piece of the puzzle for awhile. So, basically that means Tate's upside during the Moss-Welker era is probably what Stallworth did a few years ago and since he's coming off a major injury and is a rookie it could be a few years before he can even reach that level (if he ever does).

Could you explain your reasoning behind these two opinions? I realize the #3 WR on the Pats has had limited value in the past, but if they have a #3 with a lot of talent, who's to say Belichick wont utilize him? NFL offenses can support 3 viable WRs. Edelman looks like a Welker clone to me. He would fit better in the slot and Tate would line up outside, no?

 

[munchkin]

Regarding Endelman as a threat: I don't see it. Upside? How many top 20 WRs can you name who changed to the WR position in Pros? Does he have more ability than Matt Jones or Brad Smith? I don't know if Tate will pan out but the fact that he was a third round pick despite having suffered a serious injury and a pot smoking charge makes me think he must have talent in spades. With my deep dynasty sleepers I want a guy who has a very high ceiling and Tate has it. He may never fulfill it, but at least he has a chance to replace Moss someday.

I could not disagree with you more about Endelman. The coaching staff loves him and in a short period of time (while changing positions) he already seems to have a decent handle of the Patriot offense which isn't easy (see Galloway, Hayes and Chad Jackson). Now, I don't think Endelman will ever be anything special Fantasywise during the Moss-Welker era. Yet, I can almost guarantee you he will remain a viable and active option who will get his share of catches which will make it even more difficult for a WR like Tate to put up quality fantasy numbers. At the end of the day there are only so many receptions to go around and if your name isn't Moss or Welker it will be extremely difficult to put up numbers with any type of consistency.

If Tate shows he is a viable option he will get the ball. Brady will pass to the open receiver; granted, it would take time to gain the kind of trust that Welker and Moss have but if you show it on the field your number will be called. He has a lot to overcome and to this point he has done nothing. You can't rule out his viability until he shows what he has. Good players get the ball; if he is a threat he will be another weapon. If Moss is double teamed, he is open and he catches the ball he will be targeted. That's a lot of if's and there is a crowd in front of him. Belichick has shown (Richard Seymour, Vrabel, etc.) he doesn't play favorites.

 

[EBF]

Sure he's worth a roster spot. Don't expect any production for a year or two though.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

According to Mike Reiss, the Pats have activated Tate and LeVoir to the 53

Tate and LeVoir activated by Pats.

Reiss-Twitter

 

[az_prof]

Sure he's worth a roster spot. Don't expect any production for a year or two though.

Our dynasty league has 22 man rosters so you can carry a couple of players like this but not too many. I have been carrying Meachem now for three years. It will be hard to carry him next year if he doesn't win a starting spot next offseason.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

WR Tate, OL LeVoir on Pats' gameday rosterRookie will bolster depleted receiving corpsOctober 24, 2009, 6:18 PMBy: Mike ReissLONDON -- The Patriots have filled their two open roster spots by activating rookie receiver Brandon Tate and veteran offensive lineman Mark LeVoir.Tate, a third-round draft choice out of the University of North Carolina, opened the season on the non-football injury list as he was still recovering from torn knee ligaments sustained during his final season with the Tar Heels.Tate bolsters a receiving corps that has been thinned this week; Julian Edelman is out with a forearm injury and Joey Galloway was released. Tate also should be a factor in the return game.LeVoir opened the season on the physically unable to perform list with a shoulder injury. With starting left tackle Matt Light out with a right knee injury, LeVoir adds depth.Rookie Sebastian Vollmer started last week at left tackle. LeVoir projects as the swing tackle -- the top backup -- as he eases his way back into action.

I must admit that my excitement for Tate is purely as a Patriots fan. I honestly have no idea about his fantasy future.

 

[Boston]

As long as Welker and Moss remain healthy and playing at a high level whoever is the Pats #3 will have limited value. Also, you have to remember that Endelman was playing QB last year at Kent State which means (to me at least) he has a pretty big upside since he's still learning the position. I see him remaining a piece of the puzzle for awhile. So, basically that means Tate's upside during the Moss-Welker era is probably what Stallworth did a few years ago and since he's coming off a major injury and is a rookie it could be a few years before he can even reach that level (if he ever does).

Could you explain your reasoning behind these two opinions? I realize the #3 WR on the Pats has had limited value in the past, but if they have a #3 with a lot of talent, who's to say Belichick wont utilize him? NFL offenses can support 3 viable WRs. Edelman looks like a Welker clone to me. He would fit better in the slot and Tate would line up outside, no?

My point isn't that Tate can't be productive if he's the real deal. My point is with Welker and Moss around and another youngster with a lot of potential in Edelman his upside numberswise is limited. Stallworth put up 46/697/3 stats in 2007...a year in which Brady and the Pats had a ridiculous year. While Stallworth had his ups and downs with the Pats he was a talented WR. If Tate put up those type of numbers next year I would be blown away (and quite happy as a Patriots fan). As for Edelman being a slot guy that probably looks like where he'll eventually be the most successful. Yet, with Welker on the team and still relatively young, Edelman won't be used solely in the slot. The kid is a player and I see him becoming a Kevin Faulk type of player...meaning that BB will find ways to keep him involved and productive. IMO the kid has been very impressive so far...not only is he making a big leap from a small program he's learning a new position while playing in a pretty complex offense that veterans like Joey Galloway, Donald Hayes and Doug Gabriel could not master. Regardless of how good Tate is Edelman is going to get his fair share.I'm not trying to put down Tate. My point is that for the next couple of years I think it will be very difficult for a WR not named Welker or Moss to be a consistent fantasy performer. There's only so many balls to go around (and the Pats will probably have a new TE or two next year and God knows what that means) and I think the value of an Edelman or Tate (should he prove to be legit) will probably lie more in real football than fantasy football.

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

As long as Welker and Moss remain healthy and playing at a high level whoever is the Pats #3 will have limited value. Also, you have to remember that Endelman was playing QB last year at Kent State which means (to me at least) he has a pretty big upside since he's still learning the position. I see him remaining a piece of the puzzle for awhile. So, basically that means Tate's upside during the Moss-Welker era is probably what Stallworth did a few years ago and since he's coming off a major injury and is a rookie it could be a few years before he can even reach that level (if he ever does).

Could you explain your reasoning behind these two opinions? I realize the #3 WR on the Pats has had limited value in the past, but if they have a #3 with a lot of talent, who's to say Belichick wont utilize him? NFL offenses can support 3 viable WRs. Edelman looks like a Welker clone to me. He would fit better in the slot and Tate would line up outside, no?

My point isn't that Tate can't be productive if he's the real deal. My point is with Welker and Moss around and another youngster with a lot of potential in Edelman his upside numberswise is limited. Stallworth put up 46/697/3 stats in 2007...a year in which Brady and the Pats had a ridiculous year. While Stallworth had his ups and downs with the Pats he was a talented WR. If Tate put up those type of numbers next year I would be blown away (and quite happy as a Patriots fan). As for Edelman being a slot guy that probably looks like where he'll eventually be the most successful. Yet, with Welker on the team and still relatively young, Edelman won't be used solely in the slot. The kid is a player and I see him becoming a Kevin Faulk type of player...meaning that BB will find ways to keep him involved and productive. IMO the kid has been very impressive so far...not only is he making a big leap from a small program he's learning a new position while playing in a pretty complex offense that veterans like Joey Galloway, Donald Hayes and Doug Gabriel could not master. Regardless of how good Tate is Edelman is going to get his fair share.I'm not trying to put down Tate. My point is that for the next couple of years I think it will be very difficult for a WR not named Welker or Moss to be a consistent fantasy performer. There's only so many balls to go around (and the Pats will probably have a new TE or two next year and God knows what that means) and I think the value of an Edelman or Tate (should he prove to be legit) will probably lie more in real football than fantasy football.

I understand your feelings on Stallworth and Edelman, but what specifically is it about Tate or the Patriots offense that is going to hold him back?In the interest of full disclosure, I am an owner of Tate in both my dynasty leagues. But I acquired him well before this thread was started, so Im just looking for all the info I can get.

 

[Boston]

As long as Welker and Moss remain healthy and playing at a high level whoever is the Pats #3 will have limited value. Also, you have to remember that Endelman was playing QB last year at Kent State which means (to me at least) he has a pretty big upside since he's still learning the position. I see him remaining a piece of the puzzle for awhile. So, basically that means Tate's upside during the Moss-Welker era is probably what Stallworth did a few years ago and since he's coming off a major injury and is a rookie it could be a few years before he can even reach that level (if he ever does).

Could you explain your reasoning behind these two opinions? I realize the #3 WR on the Pats has had limited value in the past, but if they have a #3 with a lot of talent, who's to say Belichick wont utilize him? NFL offenses can support 3 viable WRs. Edelman looks like a Welker clone to me. He would fit better in the slot and Tate would line up outside, no?

My point isn't that Tate can't be productive if he's the real deal. My point is with Welker and Moss around and another youngster with a lot of potential in Edelman his upside numberswise is limited. Stallworth put up 46/697/3 stats in 2007...a year in which Brady and the Pats had a ridiculous year. While Stallworth had his ups and downs with the Pats he was a talented WR. If Tate put up those type of numbers next year I would be blown away (and quite happy as a Patriots fan). As for Edelman being a slot guy that probably looks like where he'll eventually be the most successful. Yet, with Welker on the team and still relatively young, Edelman won't be used solely in the slot. The kid is a player and I see him becoming a Kevin Faulk type of player...meaning that BB will find ways to keep him involved and productive. IMO the kid has been very impressive so far...not only is he making a big leap from a small program he's learning a new position while playing in a pretty complex offense that veterans like Joey Galloway, Donald Hayes and Doug Gabriel could not master. Regardless of how good Tate is Edelman is going to get his fair share.I'm not trying to put down Tate. My point is that for the next couple of years I think it will be very difficult for a WR not named Welker or Moss to be a consistent fantasy performer. There's only so many balls to go around (and the Pats will probably have a new TE or two next year and God knows what that means) and I think the value of an Edelman or Tate (should he prove to be legit) will probably lie more in real football than fantasy football.

I understand your feelings on Stallworth and Edelman, but what specifically is it about Tate or the Patriots offense that is going to hold him back?In the interest of full disclosure, I am an owner of Tate in both my dynasty leagues. But I acquired him well before this thread was started, so Im just looking for all the info I can get.

Pure numbers...Welker and Moss are big time studs and I think both have at least a few good years left...they are going to get more than their share. I truly believe that Edelman is a quality player who will be an active part of the Patriot offense for years to come. The Pats will also throw to their RBs and TEs. Taking all that into account I just don't see how the #3 WR is going to put up numbers that can make him a consistent fantasy threat (key word being consistent). The #3 didn't do anything special in a year when Brady set the TD record so I think it's even more unlikely that the #3 will be able to do it in a "normal" year.As a Pats fan I hope I'm wrong because it would be great to have Tate come in and light it up. Yet, if you think that's going to happen than you need to show me who he's going to take those numbers from. I'm not trying to dump on Tate because right now I see him as a wildcard who could end up like Chad Jackson or turn into a big play threat that benefits from playing with Moss/Welker (i.e. not getting much defensive attention). Yet, at the end of the day I think it's somewhat of a reach to think a young WR coming off of a major injury, playing in a complex offense will be fantasy relevant sooner rather than later.

 

[Boston]

By the way...I think he is worth a spot on a Dynasty roster...he has talent and if Moss or Welker got injured who knows what could happen. My point is expectations for the next couple of years need to be realistic.

 

[bakes]

guys - at least spell his name right if you are going to analyze him - it is EDELMAN

They're just used to prounouncing Entenmann's cookies as "Entemann's" I think Tate is a solid value going forward in dynasty if you have a patient roster spot. Good system, great quarterback, and Moss isn't getting any younger; but it will likely take 2 or 3 years for him to reach his full potential due to Moss, Welker and Entenm, err, Edelman.

 

[Badm]

Rotoworld) Patriots rookie WR Brandon Tate is expected to share No. 3 receiver snaps with Sam Aiken this week against the Dolphins.

Analysis: Neither player will be a fantasy option while splitting time this week, but Tate is worth keeping an eye on -- especially in return yardage leagues. He's still getting into the offensive rhythm after not being allowed to practice while on the PUP list, but the Pats want to get him more involved in the second half of the season.

 

[Don Quixote]

Placed on the IR. Hold on to him for next year....

 

[munchkin]

Placed on the IR. Hold on to him for next year....

It will be interesting to see if Tate comes out of this healthy. The Pats struck out with Lewis and Galloway and Edelman had the bad fore-arm injury which may have forced their hand in putting Tate on the active roster before he was fully recovered from his knee injury. The team has few prospective playmakers on their WR roster behind Moss and Welker. The team has to hope that Tate can recover for Training Camp and OTA's next year.

 

[loose circuits]

he shouldn't have tried to push it if he wasn't ready. Stupid move, but Edelman's injuries kinda forced their hand. I'm gonna assume New England has confidence in Aiken. They just gave him an extension, didn't they?

I'd say Tate's only worth it in leagues that have IR roster spots. The league I have him in, he's getting place on IR. I'll make that decision in Feb (likely will cut an extra D to keep him around). He'll still be battling Aiken & Edelman for scraps when he gets back. Moss doesn't look done anytime soon, does he?

 

[az_prof]

he shouldn't have tried to push it if he wasn't ready. Stupid move, but Edelman's injuries kinda forced their hand. I'm gonna assume New England has confidence in Aiken. They just gave him an extension, didn't they?I'd say Tate's only worth it in leagues that have IR roster spots. The league I have him in, he's getting place on IR. I'll make that decision in Feb (likely will cut an extra D to keep him around). He'll still be battling Aiken & Edelman for scraps when he gets back. Moss doesn't look done anytime soon, does he?

I agree about him only being worth a spot if you have IR. I dropped him earlier this week and picked up Danny Ware.

 

[jdswan922]

Is Moss a free agent after this year or next year?