What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Is Brett Favre the Greatest QB of All Time? (1 Viewer)

Is Brett Favre the Greatest QB of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    0
gianmarco

gianmarco

Footballguy
#1 in virtually every category. What say you?

If not, who is your #1?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
impossible to pick who's the 'best' of all time

he deserves to be in the conversation though and that is enough for me to vote yes

 
No on Favre as GOAT, much as I love his style of play. He's played at a very high level for a very long time, which put him at the top of the career stats.

I have Montana for GOAT.

 
Im a huge Packers fan and Favre fan...but no. He is not the GOAT.

The INTs are just too big and in too bad of times in the postseason.

He is top 5 IMO...with alot of people muddled in with him after Montana.

What Montana did in the postseason and how nearly flawless he was...is why I have him #1 all time.

Favre is there with Unitas, Elway, Marino...and so on. Brady and Manning right there as well and will probably be up above those guys when its all said and done for them.

 
Definitely in the conversation. For my money, its still Montana. The wreckless abandon with which Favre played contributed both to his greatness, and the reasoning behind why I feel he's not quite #1.

 
I voted for him. he made a lot of WRs careers (think Schroeder, Brooks, Driver)...guys who had some talent, but would not be nearly the player they were without him. i am not a homer and in fact think he will hold the title in my mind for only a few more seasons as i think Manning and Brady will take the prize. I know a lot of people think Montana is the greatest and while I saw him play, i was still young. This is going to draw a lot of criticism, but I would like to see what he could of done in the salary cap era.

 
ESPN's Voter's Rankings:

* 1 Montana (9,642) 459,413

* 2 Favre (8,393) 432,813

* 3 Marino (1,625) 382,037

* 4 Elway (1,442) 360,704

* 5 Brady (1,448) 316,891

* 6 P. Manning (669) 311,862

* 7 Unitas (1,205) 295,249

* 8 Bradshaw (289) 260,330

* 9 Young (127) 238,077

* 10 Starr (240) 235,314

* 11 Aikman (185) 216,016

* 12 Staubach (154) 194,501

* 13 Namath (116) 164,973

* 14 Tarkenton (79) 137,183

* 15 Baugh (88) 126,409

* 16 Graham (160) 122,206

* 17 Fouts (19) 117,265

* 18 Griese (10) 101,243

* 19 Moon (30) 100,476

* 20 Simms (36) 97,462

MY RANKINGS

1.Montana

2.Brady

3.Marino

4.Elway

5.P. Manning

6.Favre

7.Unitas

8.Young

9.Bradshaw

10.Fouts

11.Aikman

12.Starr

13.Staubach

14.Graham

15.Tarkenton

16.Griese

17.Namath

18.Moon

19.Baugh

20.Simms

Obviously I have Fouts ranked way higher than most other voters, but I was born in the early 1970s, so I don't have a great understanding of what some of the QBs from the 70s brought to the table. I thought Fouts was an absolute stud when I saw him play, though.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
An all time great who had a fantastic career and always answered the bell. His next stop is Canton. Yet, I've never thought he was as good as some of the other greats of the game. His penchant for mistakes was probably as high as it can be for a QB at his level and quite often they came at crucial times. When talking about the great ones he's not the guy I would want with the ball in his hand with a big game on the line (I'm not bashing him here because this is simply comparing him to other great QBs).

QBs I think are better than him are Marino, Elway, Montana, Unitas, Manning, Brady and Staubach (I really can't say guys like Baugh or Graham are or aren't better) . I'd take Young over Favre when comparing them at their best but Favre had a better overall career. After those guys Favre fits in which is pretty impressive for a guy who's career almost ended in a car accident in college.

 
Not the greatest, but my favorite.

Just watching him play...the pure joy was something that I hope I get to see again.

That and the durability. A lot can be said about strapping it on every week for 10 years.

You guys in Green Bay and all Packers fan who were able to see this were lucky mofos.

I'm jealous.

 
sho nuff said:
Im a huge Packers fan and Favre fan...but no. He is not the GOAT.The INTs are just too big and in too bad of times in the postseason.He is top 5 IMO...with alot of people muddled in with him after Montana.What Montana did in the postseason and how nearly flawless he was...is why I have him #1 all time.Favre is there with Unitas, Elway, Marino...and so on. Brady and Manning right there as well and will probably be up above those guys when its all said and done for them.
Click to expand...
Wow. Most intelligent post of the 2008 Shark Pool season. :)
 
Still don't get those that put Marino over him.

He beat all of Marino's numbers...has 3 MVPs...and the ring.

 
Road Warriors said:
No on Favre as GOAT, much as I love his style of play. He's played at a very high level for a very long time, which put him at the top of the career stats.I have Montana for GOAT.
Click to expand...
:thumbup: I'm a huge Green Bay fan, but there is no way Favre should be #1 in anyone's list.Montana is, simply put, the only sensible choice for GOAT. For those who have doubt, just look up the dude's postseason stats. Best ever, end of story.
 
The potentially greatest QB of all time is sitting in prison right now, wearing an orange jumpsuit and answering to the nickname "Pound Puppy". :stirspot:

j/k - I think Favre is arguably in the top 5 range, but I don't know about #1... Now, QB with the #1 fan following - that's a different question!

 
Best or Greatest - No.

Most Fun - Yes. I bet you could put a highlight reel of his crazy moves/passes and it would be as long of all the other QB's in the NFL put together.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
smackdaddies said:
Best or Greatest - No.Most Fun - Yes. I bet you could put a highlight reel of his crazy moves/passes and it would be as long of all the other QB's in the NFL put together.
Click to expand...
Oh, I don't know about that. I've seen David Carr put on some fancy moves when evading a pass rush before eventually curling up into a fetal position and getting trounced. The sheer length of that compilation would rival Favre's.
 
BigSteelThrill said:
travdogg said:
Montana
Click to expand...
||

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|

|



-----> And everyone else starts here and descends.
Click to expand...
XIt's not Favre, but it's not Montana either

1- Bart Starr

2- Joe Montana

3- Sammy Baugh

4- Otto Graham

5- Tom Brady

6- Johnny Unitas

7- Roger Staubach

8- Steve Young

9- Peyton Manning

10- Brett Favre

I've done a lot of reading on this, and after reading THIS I fully agree with this list.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I voted yes based on three things,

1) His toughness and competitiveness

2) His quick release and arm strength

3) His enthusiasm and passion for the game

Without a doubt my all time favorite to watch play the game. He will be sorely missed. He too often forced things, but that also made him fun to watch.

 
I'm a Brett Farve advocate, and I'm going to say No.

I have a 2 year old son and one day when we're watching a game together and he asks me, " Daddy, who's the best QB of all time,?"

I'm going to answer, that that is a tough question. I'll try and bring up some characteristics that I think are important in a QB and what other people do as well.

My answer will be after some pondering to show that it really isn't an easy question, that there is NO greatest QB of all time.

Brett Farve is one of the Greatest QB's of all time for various reasons we all know about, but he also had his flaws and even the guys who love Brett Farve know the areas he struggled in.

I could not say without a shadow of a doubt that Brett Farve was better than Joe Montana and I'm not certain that Montana was better than him in a lot of ways. They were great QB's, the best of their particular era and in 5 to 7 years you'll have to throw guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning into the mix.

Unless you have a guy like Tiger Woods who may just shatter not only the records in golf, but exhibits dominance year in and year out.....something like greatest QB where there's just a bunch of great QB's open to a timely debate.

 
I agree with the "homerism" remarks..

from a totally neutral perspective and as a "Fan of the Game"

John Elway is the benchmark in My eyes..

sure we can all say numbers, rings, longevity, etc are factors..

but put it all together... and look at the big picture..

like Great Coaches... with Great Players it's the same..

over time.. who has done more with less...???

Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman? no way...

great surrounding casts.. could they have accomplished their feats with the talent that Elway or Favre had around them...?

I think not..

Marino?

great numbers.. sure...

which I personally feel many, many others could also do tossing the ball around 40-48 times a game..

look at the Teams Elway essentially put on his back and carried to the Super Bowl...yeah they may have lost them...

but you can not discredit the fact that on a consistant basis and with mediocre talent in many cases that Elway and Favre essentilally willed their Teams to consistantly win games..

this can be argued til we are blue in the face but if you want reality...

look at the heart, the will ...the warrior in a player.. look at the entire package..

not just the guy that won on a team loaded with HoF'ers...

there's a helluva lot of Players that would never have even sniffed a Championship had they been on Teams other than the ones they were on.. yet there will be those who see them as "Great Players"...

 
the Jag Zone said:
I agree with the "homerism" remarks..from a totally neutral perspective and as a "Fan of the Game"John Elway is the benchmark in My eyes..sure we can all say numbers, rings, longevity, etc are factors..but put it all together... and look at the big picture..like Great Coaches... with Great Players it's the same.. over time.. who has done more with less...???Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman? no way... great surrounding casts.. could they have accomplished their feats with the talent that Elway or Favre had around them...?I think not..Marino? great numbers.. sure... which I personally feel many, many others could also do tossing the ball around 40-48 times a game.. look at the Teams Elway essentially put on his back and carried to the Super Bowl...yeah they may have lost them...but you can not discredit the fact that on a consistant basis and with mediocre talent in many cases that Elway and Favre essentilally willed their Teams to consistantly win games.. this can be argued til we are blue in the face but if you want reality... look at the heart, the will ...the warrior in a player.. look at the entire package..not just the guy that won on a team loaded with HoF'ers...there's a helluva lot of Players that would never have even sniffed a Championship had they been on Teams other than the ones they were on.. yet there will be those who see them as "Great Players"...
Click to expand...
People seem to think Montana did it all with Rice and so on. Take a look at his first title game and then get back to me.Elway did alot...but it took him having that dominant run game to take him over the top.
 
When I think of Brett Farve I think of one of the best "football players of all time" but NOT best "QB of all time."

 
The GOAT threads are a bit like asking who the most attractive woman of all time is. There really is no right answer, yet people will argue for hours pimping their guy.

IMO, Favre is certainly a candidate worthy of being in the discussion and I'm sure there are many reasons why he should be considered the GOAT. He was both a great QB for a very long time and had both top yearly and all time stats.

(Compare that to players like Testavedre or Bledsoe who had some decent years and decent career totals but people would be really hard pressed to make a case that there were truly all time greats.)

Favre has an impressive body of work and certainly brings plenty to the table for his candidacy as GOAT. IMO, that should be enough to be in the pantheon of candidates, but for some reason that is not enough and we collectively are inclined to try to come up with one uber QB.

So like women, some folks like blondes, others brunettes, and others redheads. And you won't be able to convince someone that the others are worthy of most attractive, just like people won't budge on who they think the GOAT QB is.

So IMO he's got a ticket worthy of inclusion in the discussion, and that is enough for me.

 
sho nuff said:
Im a huge Packers fan and Favre fan...but no. He is not the GOAT.The INTs are just too big and in too bad of times in the postseason.He is top 5 IMO...with alot of people muddled in with him after Montana.What Montana did in the postseason and how nearly flawless he was...is why I have him #1 all time.Favre is there with Unitas, Elway, Marino...and so on. Brady and Manning right there as well and will probably be up above those guys when its all said and done for them.
Click to expand...
:towelwave: In the conversation...that's good enough for me.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Soulfly3
All-time QB Draft - Do the OG GOATs stand a chance?
Replies
45
Views
1K
FreeBaGeL
FreeBaGeL
Dez
FSGA draft week is here once again for 2025
Replies
7
Views
397
Bri
B
Hot Sauce Guy
“System QB” and “Game Manager” - are these really negative traits?
Replies
32
Views
960
IHEARTFF
I

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top