Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Hypothetically, of course, but would Brian Urlacher make the HOF if he retired today (for argument's sake, due to injury)?
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Is Brian Urlacher a HOFer? (1 Viewer)
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benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I think Lance Briggs has had a better career in Chicago.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
not a chance
Grimace59
Footballguy
Maybe not a 1st Ballet, but yes he would be a shoe in Hall or Famer. No championship's but 6x Pro Bowler, 4X All Pro, Defensive MVP and the face of the Chicago Bears Franchise for the last Decade. He's looked at on the same level as Singletary and Butkus... he would have my vote.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Absolutely not. He has other Linebackers like Junior Seau, Zach Thomas, and Ray Lewis ahead of him. That's kind of his era and then you have to throw in some OLB that might be more noteworthy like Derrick Brooks...
I retract a bit, 4 time All Pro and one of the best 1st 5 or 6 seasons in the league but his game has really tapered of and then you add in injuries. I don't think he's a slam dunk for the hall but playing for Chicago won't hurt him a bit either.
I retract a bit, 4 time All Pro and one of the best 1st 5 or 6 seasons in the league but his game has really tapered of and then you add in injuries. I don't think he's a slam dunk for the hall but playing for Chicago won't hurt him a bit either.
Foosball God
Foos
He is?
Tau837
Footballguy
If you're saying Chicago fans look at him the same as Singletary and Butkus, then it lowers my respect for Chicago fans... a lot.IMO he is not in their class, and I don't think it's that close, either.
Tau837
Footballguy
If the question was should he get in in this scenario, I'd say no. But the question is would he. And I think the answer is probably yes, though it would take him a while.An issue for him in this scenario would be that he'd become eligible around the same time, give or take a year or two, as Brooks, Seau, Thomas, and Lewis, who would all be more deserving IMO... and there are currently only 9 LBs in the HOF who played in the 1980s or later, including Rickey Jackson, who is getting in this year.That said, Rickey Jackson becomes a fairly good argument for putting Urlacher in, for those who subscribe to the "if player A is in, and player B is as good as or better than player A, then player B should get in" argument.
1 Defensive Player of the Year Award, 4-time 1st team All Pro, 6 Pro Bowls, Defensive Rookie of the Year
I think he's not quite as good as his resume suggests, but they certainly would put him in the conversation.
Among the MLBs of his era, Ray Lewis is clearly ahead. Not sure who else. Zach Thomas probably. That's about it.
I think he's not quite as good as his resume suggests, but they certainly would put him in the conversation.
Among the MLBs of his era, Ray Lewis is clearly ahead. Not sure who else. Zach Thomas probably. That's about it.
I dont believe he is looked upon as good as either of those 2 LB's. Not outside of Chicago or inside of Chicago. Butkus is a legend and always will be. Singletary was leader on a Superbowl winner that people in Chicago will tell you was the greatest Defense ever. If Urlacher were to retire today, 5 years from now fans would have fond memories of an exceptional football player, but as time goes on, they won't be remeber as the BIG 3.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Nope
golfguy
Footballguy
i don't look at pro bowls as meaning much, especially after this past one.1 DPOY is nice, DROY is nice. and he has had some good seasons, but when i think of him, i think of injuries and lost time for whatever reason. (well I guess it's only really been 2 seasons) but that is 20%. hall or very good - yes.hall of fame - no.now if he plays 5 or 6 more seasons and plays well then maybe.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Well, I think Bill George already makes it the Big 3, but I agree that Urlacher probably isn't in the big 4, at least as it stands now.
Grimace59
Footballguy
I guess I'm pretty Bias to Urlacher being a Bears fan, but seeing him play he will be considered one the 5 best Line Backers to play for the Bears. Watching the plays he made on the field were truly unbelievable, but yes the injuries the last few years have hurt him, and the Defense. But Urlacher was the face of the Franchise for the last Decade until Cutler came along. He has about good 3 years left, baring major injuries over that span, I don't know one Bear fan who wouldn't put him in the Hall of fame in hsi first three years of eligibility.
But at the same time, I am in the VAST minority on this subject, but he's one one of my top 10 All time Bears.
But at the same time, I am in the VAST minority on this subject, but he's one one of my top 10 All time Bears.
5Rings
Lurker
. Too many guys getting into Canton lately who have no business there.
out of a 10-year career, he's played in all 16 games 8 times. he suffered two season-ending injuries. he's played through injuries, but hasn't really missed time because of any thing that wasn't major.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/U/UrlaBr00.htm
there's a lot of HOF type players on this similarity chart for him already.
golfguy
Footballguy
brian urlacher = jack lambert or jack ham 
sorry but he isn't in that class.
not in the ray lewis class.
and zach thomas is actually ahead of him IMO for the HOF.
you can't really compare those older guys to todays guys for stats, etc.
but i think lamber and ham lead some good defenses that i don't know... won 4 super bowls.
sorry but he isn't in that class.
not in the ray lewis class.
and zach thomas is actually ahead of him IMO for the HOF.
you can't really compare those older guys to todays guys for stats, etc.
but i think lamber and ham lead some good defenses that i don't know... won 4 super bowls.
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I was thinking similarly. Can the 3rd best MLB of an era make it? I love Urlacher but putting it that way makes me think he's going to have trouble getting in(in this instance).
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
There are more than half a dozen MLB's or Inside L.B.'s I would currently playing that I would take over him. Statistically he is no London Fletcher. I think that says all you need to know. He rode the hype train for a while but HOF, only in the minds of Bears fans starved for a hero and too young to remember Butkus or Singletary.
While I'm about the biggest London Fletcher fan there is, this isn't necessarily true.In 138 career regular season games, Urlacher has 37.5 sacks, 17 INTs, 8 FF, and 9 FR.In 191 career regular season games, Fletcher has 30.0 sacks, 15 INTs, 12 FF, and 9 FR.Fletcher has way more tackles but that's not an official NFL stat and there's quite a bit of subjectivity in how those are credited.Also, as ridiculous as it was, Fletcher didn't make a Pro Bowl until this year and only then as an injury replacement.
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The guys from the 90's are just becoming eligible though for the most part. The only guy that played the majority of his career in the 90's so far is D Thomas. Of guys that played the majority of their career in the 80's you have Singletary, Carson, R Jackson, A Tippett, and LT. Seau would be considered more of a 90's guy, yeah he's hung around a long time but that's where the bulk of his HOF credentials come from. Urlacher definitely compares favorably to Tippett and Carson. If they find room for 5 LB's from the 00's like they did the 80's then Urlacher should definitely make it. I doubt he's 1st ballot, but he's eventually going to get in.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
To an extent Int's. and Sacks cxan be a bit of a fortuituos stat. Tackles, on the other hand, over a career, maybe not sao much. Personally, I think tackling the prime job of a MLB. Also, while I like Fletcher's game, I do not see him as even approaching the HOF.Urlacher to me has been hype. The NFL always has a face of a franchise, even when that franchise sucks. Urlacher has been the face of the Bears and hyped pregame as the designated story not so much because of his excellence, but because the bears lacked other stories.
1 and 2- **** Butkus and Mike Singletary (it can be argued as to who was better)3- Bill George4, 5 and 6- Joe Fortunato, Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs (it can be argued as to who was better)
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
This is a good point in time to compare Urlacher's career with that of Randy Gradishar.
Both played ten seasons. Both started for 9 seasons, with Urlacher missing 2009 due to injury and Gradishar not starting as a rookie. Urlacher did miss half of 2004, although their games started numbers are similar since Gradishar played during the 9-game 1982 season (and in the 14-game era).
Pro Bowls: Urlacher made 6, Gradishar made 7.
All-Pros: Urlacher was a unanimous first-team All-Pro (AP, PFW, TSN) in four different seasons. Gradishar was only a two-time first-team All-Pro according to the Associated Press, but he was a first-team All-Pro by at least one source in five seasons. In '77, he was a 1AP selection by the AP and PFW. In '78, the AP, PFW, NEA and the FW named him to their first team. In '79, the PFW and FW named him first team. In '80, the Sporting News gave him their first All-NFL selection, and was the only source to do so. In '81, the Sporting News again named him All-NFl, as did PFW.
DPOY: Both players won 1 DPOY award.
Super Bowls: Both players went to, and lost, the Super Bowl on defensively dominant teams.
Team defensive rankings in yards allowed, points allowed, rushing yards allowed and rushing yards per carry allowed.
I'll let you guys chew on all of this. I'll also point out that for most of Gradishar's career, there were 26 teams in the NFL, so his team's defensive ranks are slightly inflated.
Both played ten seasons. Both started for 9 seasons, with Urlacher missing 2009 due to injury and Gradishar not starting as a rookie. Urlacher did miss half of 2004, although their games started numbers are similar since Gradishar played during the 9-game 1982 season (and in the 14-game era).
Pro Bowls: Urlacher made 6, Gradishar made 7.
All-Pros: Urlacher was a unanimous first-team All-Pro (AP, PFW, TSN) in four different seasons. Gradishar was only a two-time first-team All-Pro according to the Associated Press, but he was a first-team All-Pro by at least one source in five seasons. In '77, he was a 1AP selection by the AP and PFW. In '78, the AP, PFW, NEA and the FW named him to their first team. In '79, the PFW and FW named him first team. In '80, the Sporting News gave him their first All-NFL selection, and was the only source to do so. In '81, the Sporting News again named him All-NFl, as did PFW.
DPOY: Both players won 1 DPOY award.
Super Bowls: Both players went to, and lost, the Super Bowl on defensively dominant teams.
Team defensive rankings in yards allowed, points allowed, rushing yards allowed and rushing yards per carry allowed.
Code:
Year Yds Pts Yds Y/A1999 29 20 23 28 <-- year before Urlacher came2000 16 20 19 102001 15 1 2 42002 25 25 26 152003 14 22 16 172004 21 13 25 16 <-- year Urlacher missed 7 games2005 2 1 11 92006 5 3 6 112007 28 16 24 242008 21 16 5 32009 17 21 23 18 <-- year Urlacher missed 15 gamesavg 16 13 15 12 Year Yds Pts Yds Y/A1973 19 15 6 9 <-- year before Gradishar came1974 21 22 13 11 <-- Gradishar's rookie year/backup1975 9 18 13 61976 8 6 3 21977 9 3 1 11978 6 2 6 41979 10 5 1 11980 15 16 20 121981 6 9 13 221982 24 25 7 21983 21 9 10 91984 25 2 5 10 <-- year after Gradishar leftavg 13 12 9 7
ZWK
Footballguy
One thing to remember when looking at the Bears' average defenses of the early 2000s is that they didn't have much talent besides Urlacher. Mike Brown was good and they had Ted Washington for one season in 2001, but other than that what did they have? Phillip Daniels? Walt Harris? Lance Briggs was a rookie in 2003, and then in 2004 they added Tommie Harris which set them up for those elite 2005 & 2006 defenses. But for most of Urlacher's first four seasons, he was the one star out there and he got DROY and then two first-team All-Pros (with a Pro Bowl every year).
DoubleG
Footballguy
These two points, while both true are completely irrelevant to the discussion as to whther or not he will be a HOFer. Whther or not he lived up his hype or he was the face of the franchise have little to do with his onfield accomplishments.
No, he isn't. I am a Bears fan and one who owns an Urlacher jersey. He compares weakly to Singeltary (who was a play-maker much longer) and doesn't come close to Butkus. Interestingly, Chase avoided using the word "should" he be a HOFer. If he had maintained his performance level over a longer period, this really wouldn't be up for discussion. He was an excellent MLB, but for too short a time span to put him with the elite. Early in his career, the discussion of Urlacher vs. Ray Lewis were close - but Lewis was not only as dominant (if not more so) than Urlacher - he has maintained it. Urlacher has not. He may still sneak in (Not being as good as Lewis doesn't automatically discount him) - but I'd say it's 50/50 at best.
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Pictus Cat
Footballguy
Urlacher's coverage skills when showing blitz and the play when he stripped Arizona's QB to will a win and playoff progress come to mind.
These are the things I will always remember about him. It would not diminish the hall of fame to me to see him in it.
These are the things I will always remember about him. It would not diminish the hall of fame to me to see him in it.
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
No.
I also thought he was always hyped up but wasn't that good.
He has had 4 all pro seasons in his career and has been a good coverage player but he has disappeared for long stretches as well.
I know big plays (sacks, ff, int, etc) aren't everything but some of these stats are glaring:
* he hasn't forced a fumble in his last 47 games and has just 1 (the MNF one on Edge) in his last 56 games
* he had a streak of 28 straight games without a sack
* he had a streak were he had 1 int in a 52 game span
His 2003 "Pro Bowl" season is a bit confusing because the Bears were 7-9, 22nd in points allowed, and Urlacher had just 88 solo tackles, 2.5 sacks, 0 int, 0 ff, 0 fr, and 4 pd. That is hardly a pro bowl season.
Also, his 2005 DPOY season is a bit unusual as well. He did not record a single turnover all season (0 int and 0 fr) and didn't record a sack in his last 10 games tat season. That is the only DPOY season in which the recipient did not get their hands on the ball even once. I know defensive football isn't judged solely on stats but every other DPOY seems to have won based largley on individual statistics.
I always thought Urlacher played much smaller then his size. He is very poor at taking on blocks, takes poor pursuit angles to ball carriers, easily fooled by play fakes, and misses too many tackles as an "elite" MLB. When he was younger his superior athletic ability masked this to a certain degree but his last few seasons have completely exposed them as his athleticism has taken a nosedive. His performance in the SB was pretty bad as he missed 4-5 tackles on Addai and Rhodes which allowed the Colts to rush for 190 yards on the ground. I know this is not completely his fault but I could never see a Singletary or Lewis led team let that happen to them.
Sadly, when I think of Urlacher his whiff on Brady, destruction by Bettis, poor SB play, and getting thrown around by Jacobs is what I will remember.
I also thought he was always hyped up but wasn't that good.
He has had 4 all pro seasons in his career and has been a good coverage player but he has disappeared for long stretches as well.
I know big plays (sacks, ff, int, etc) aren't everything but some of these stats are glaring:
* he hasn't forced a fumble in his last 47 games and has just 1 (the MNF one on Edge) in his last 56 games
* he had a streak of 28 straight games without a sack
* he had a streak were he had 1 int in a 52 game span
His 2003 "Pro Bowl" season is a bit confusing because the Bears were 7-9, 22nd in points allowed, and Urlacher had just 88 solo tackles, 2.5 sacks, 0 int, 0 ff, 0 fr, and 4 pd. That is hardly a pro bowl season.
Also, his 2005 DPOY season is a bit unusual as well. He did not record a single turnover all season (0 int and 0 fr) and didn't record a sack in his last 10 games tat season. That is the only DPOY season in which the recipient did not get their hands on the ball even once. I know defensive football isn't judged solely on stats but every other DPOY seems to have won based largley on individual statistics.
I always thought Urlacher played much smaller then his size. He is very poor at taking on blocks, takes poor pursuit angles to ball carriers, easily fooled by play fakes, and misses too many tackles as an "elite" MLB. When he was younger his superior athletic ability masked this to a certain degree but his last few seasons have completely exposed them as his athleticism has taken a nosedive. His performance in the SB was pretty bad as he missed 4-5 tackles on Addai and Rhodes which allowed the Colts to rush for 190 yards on the ground. I know this is not completely his fault but I could never see a Singletary or Lewis led team let that happen to them.
Sadly, when I think of Urlacher his whiff on Brady, destruction by Bettis, poor SB play, and getting thrown around by Jacobs is what I will remember.
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johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
I found this on another site and thought it was interesting for this topic. It compares Urlacher to Ray Lewis (the clear #1 MLB of the era). It isn't perfect and by no means keeps Urlacher out BUT it provides some numbers to discuss:
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I have always been critical of Urlacher's ability in the run game. I agree that he is very good in coverage BUT the way he plays the game is not considered "changing the game". Yes, he plays it differently BUT that has resulted in just TWO defenses that were top 10 ranked in his era, just 3 Playoff Apperances, and no teams are clamoring to find the next "soft against the run, can't shed blocks, BUT good in coverage MLB".
Here are some facts against the run to help out:
Look at the ranks of the run D for both the Bears and Ravens since 2000 (1999 for the Ravens).
Ravens
1999-2nd
2000-1st
2001-4th
2002-13th
2003-6th
2004-8th
2005-9th
2006-2nd
2007-2nd
2008-3rd
2009-5th
So the two worst rankings for the Ravens were the 2 seasons that Lewis missed significant time (2002,2005). The average rank for the Ravens in the 9 seasons Lewis was healthy is 3.67.
Bears
2000-19th
2001-2nd (product of Traylor and Washington)
2002-26th
2003-16th
2004-25th (Urlacher missed 7 games but is at least partially to blame)
2005-11th
2006-6th
2007-24th
2008-5th
2009-23rd (Urlacher missed 15 game)
Averaging out the 8 seasons he was fully healthy (I'm giving him a gift because he was active for 4 of the 7 100 yard games in '04) the average rank of the Bears Run Defense in the "Urlacher Era" is: 13.625
Now look at this research I found out.
Ray Lewis
*In the 2000s Decade Ray Lewis played in 134 games for the Ravens. In those 134 games only 13 times did an opposing running back have a 100 yard game. That is only in 9.7% of the games he played in.
*Even in the 1996-99 era in the 60 games Lewis played only 9 times did a 100 yard game take place.
*So in Lewis's 194 career games only 22 100 yard rusher have been given up. That is 11.3% of the games played.
*Now in the the 30 games Lewis has missed during his career there have been 11 100 yard rushers, or in 36.7% of the games he has missed.
*So the Ravens are 25.4% more likely to give up a 100 yard rusher without Lewis in the lineup.
Urlacher
*In his 138 games there have been 35 100 yard rushers, or in 25.4% of the games played.
*In the 22 games he has missed the Bears gave up 8 100 yard rushers, or in 36.4% of the games Urlacher has missed.
*So the Bears are only 11% more likely to give up 100 yard rusher without Urlacher in the lineup.
Obviously, there is going to be some drop off when you put any backup in over a starter BUT Lewis's percentage is so large that it shows how effective and important he is/has been to the Ravens run D over the years.
Regardless or the different teammates (Ed Hartwell, Mike Croel, Bart Scott, etc), different schemes (4-3, 3-4, 46), different Defensive Coordinators (Marvin Lewis, Mike Nolan, Rex Ryan, etc), and advanced age (Lewis turned 30 in 2005) Lewis has continued to play at an elite level at this part of the game.
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I have always been critical of Urlacher's ability in the run game. I agree that he is very good in coverage BUT the way he plays the game is not considered "changing the game". Yes, he plays it differently BUT that has resulted in just TWO defenses that were top 10 ranked in his era, just 3 Playoff Apperances, and no teams are clamoring to find the next "soft against the run, can't shed blocks, BUT good in coverage MLB".
Here are some facts against the run to help out:
Look at the ranks of the run D for both the Bears and Ravens since 2000 (1999 for the Ravens).
Ravens
1999-2nd
2000-1st
2001-4th
2002-13th
2003-6th
2004-8th
2005-9th
2006-2nd
2007-2nd
2008-3rd
2009-5th
So the two worst rankings for the Ravens were the 2 seasons that Lewis missed significant time (2002,2005). The average rank for the Ravens in the 9 seasons Lewis was healthy is 3.67.
Bears
2000-19th
2001-2nd (product of Traylor and Washington)
2002-26th
2003-16th
2004-25th (Urlacher missed 7 games but is at least partially to blame)
2005-11th
2006-6th
2007-24th
2008-5th
2009-23rd (Urlacher missed 15 game)
Averaging out the 8 seasons he was fully healthy (I'm giving him a gift because he was active for 4 of the 7 100 yard games in '04) the average rank of the Bears Run Defense in the "Urlacher Era" is: 13.625
Now look at this research I found out.
Ray Lewis
*In the 2000s Decade Ray Lewis played in 134 games for the Ravens. In those 134 games only 13 times did an opposing running back have a 100 yard game. That is only in 9.7% of the games he played in.
*Even in the 1996-99 era in the 60 games Lewis played only 9 times did a 100 yard game take place.
*So in Lewis's 194 career games only 22 100 yard rusher have been given up. That is 11.3% of the games played.
*Now in the the 30 games Lewis has missed during his career there have been 11 100 yard rushers, or in 36.7% of the games he has missed.
*So the Ravens are 25.4% more likely to give up a 100 yard rusher without Lewis in the lineup.
Urlacher
*In his 138 games there have been 35 100 yard rushers, or in 25.4% of the games played.
*In the 22 games he has missed the Bears gave up 8 100 yard rushers, or in 36.4% of the games Urlacher has missed.
*So the Bears are only 11% more likely to give up 100 yard rusher without Urlacher in the lineup.
Obviously, there is going to be some drop off when you put any backup in over a starter BUT Lewis's percentage is so large that it shows how effective and important he is/has been to the Ravens run D over the years.
Regardless or the different teammates (Ed Hartwell, Mike Croel, Bart Scott, etc), different schemes (4-3, 3-4, 46), different Defensive Coordinators (Marvin Lewis, Mike Nolan, Rex Ryan, etc), and advanced age (Lewis turned 30 in 2005) Lewis has continued to play at an elite level at this part of the game.
Rumblefish
Footballguy
I agree completely. I've always liked Rickey Jackson and thought he was a good linebacker but it never even occurred to me that he was a Hall-of-Famer. Before Jackson's election, I would've said "no" on Urlacher but he should be in if Jackson is the benchmark.
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
I don't think Rickey Jackson is a good comparison because he was a 3-4 OLB for the majority of his career. Also, Rickey's put up 1180 tackles, 128 sacks, 8 int, 40 ff, and 29 fr. He also played great well into his 30s as he was making all pro teams at ages 34 and 35. He also finished his career at age 37 with 9.5 sacks. Throughout his career he made 6 legit pro bowls and was named an all pro by at least 1 publications in 7 different seasons. In 13 seasons in New Orleans he led a top 10 defense 7 times (while being on 2 more as a 49er). Urlacher, in comparison, made 4 legit pro bowls appearances (2000 was an injury sub, and 2003 was a horrible selection) and has been named an all pro by any publication in only 4 seasons during his career. In addition he has only led 2-3 top 10 defenses during his 10 seasons as a Bear and unlike Jackson has been playing poorly since he turned 29/30 years old. I think Jackson's longevity, being named an all pro 7 different seasons, and ridiculous stats are what got him into the HOF.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
No. He would need another 3 or 4 years as an elite LB and that does not appear to be in the cards.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
As a lifelong Bears fan I have to vote no. And I know I don't speak for all Chicago fans, but Urlacher is nowhere close to being on the same hallowed pedestal as Butkus and Singletary. He was lucky enough to be annointed the face of the team since there was little marketable personality when he arrived. C'mon, check out the roster his rookie year:
Alonzo Mayes
Barry Minter
Blake Brockermeyer
Bobby Engram
Brad Culpepper
Brent Bartholomew
Brian Urlacher
Bryan Robinson
Cade McNown
Casey Wiegmann
Chris Villarrial
Clyde Simmons
Curtis Enis
Dez White
Dustin Lyman
D'Wayne Bates
Eddie Kennison
Frankie Smith
Glyn Milburn
James Allen
James O. Williams
Jerry Azumah
Jim Flanigan
Jim Miller
Jimmy Herndon
John Allred
Kaseem Sinceno
Khari Samuel
Louie Aguiar
Macey Brooks
Marcus Robinson
Mark Hartsell
Marlon Barnes
Marty Booker
Michael Green
Mike Brown
Mike Wells
Olin Kreutz
Patrick Mannelly
Paul Edinger
Phillip Daniels
R.W. McQuarters
Ray McElroy
Rex Tucker
Robert Newkirk
Rosevelt Colvin
Scott Dragos
Sean Harris
Shane Matthews
Shawn Wooden
Thomas Smith
Todd McMillon
Todd Perry
Tony Parrish
Troy Wilson
Van Tuinei
Walt Harris
Warrick Holdman
A couple of busts and not alot of star power other than the hot young rookie Urlacher. Urlacher's career started great, but he's been coasting on reputation lately. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and he's a very good player, he's just not a Hall of Famer IMO.
Alonzo Mayes
Barry Minter
Blake Brockermeyer
Bobby Engram
Brad Culpepper
Brent Bartholomew
Brian Urlacher
Bryan Robinson
Cade McNown
Casey Wiegmann
Chris Villarrial
Clyde Simmons
Curtis Enis
Dez White
Dustin Lyman
D'Wayne Bates
Eddie Kennison
Frankie Smith
Glyn Milburn
James Allen
James O. Williams
Jerry Azumah
Jim Flanigan
Jim Miller
Jimmy Herndon
John Allred
Kaseem Sinceno
Khari Samuel
Louie Aguiar
Macey Brooks
Marcus Robinson
Mark Hartsell
Marlon Barnes
Marty Booker
Michael Green
Mike Brown
Mike Wells
Olin Kreutz
Patrick Mannelly
Paul Edinger
Phillip Daniels
R.W. McQuarters
Ray McElroy
Rex Tucker
Robert Newkirk
Rosevelt Colvin
Scott Dragos
Sean Harris
Shane Matthews
Shawn Wooden
Thomas Smith
Todd McMillon
Todd Perry
Tony Parrish
Troy Wilson
Van Tuinei
Walt Harris
Warrick Holdman
A couple of busts and not alot of star power other than the hot young rookie Urlacher. Urlacher's career started great, but he's been coasting on reputation lately. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and he's a very good player, he's just not a Hall of Famer IMO.
Grimace59
Footballguy
Article on the 50 Best Bears of all time...
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...bears05.article
Urlacher #13
Singletary #11
See he is looked at on par with the Great Linebackers of the Bears by the Chicago media.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...bears05.article
Urlacher #13
Singletary #11
See he is looked at on par with the Great Linebackers of the Bears by the Chicago media.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Grange #40? I have trouble taking that list seriously.
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
That list is embarrassing. Most Chicago media doesn't put Urlacher anywhere near those other all time greats. Heck, even most Bears fans now don't think he is a HOFer or should even be a MLB anymore.
Halas at 50? Singletary behind Hampton and Dent? Grange at 40? Two players at 33?
Who wrote that thing a 13 year old?
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
No....when I think of him I immediately think of overrated.
Captain Placeholder
Footballguy
No way that Urlacher should get in before Chris Hanburger.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
As much as I would like to see another Bear enter the Hall of Fame one day (still ticked Dent didn't get in this year), Urlacher needs some more outstanding seasons to be worthy of it in my opinion.And I don't consider him to be in Butkus' or Singletary's class. He was excellent in pass coverage, but not as strong at the point of attack as either of those two.
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
Urlacher's "Good at coverage but mediocre against the run" approach has resulted in two top 10 defenses and 3 playoff appearances in 10 seasons. I don't think teams will be/are clamoring to get a MLB that can't play the run effectively.
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
no.
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