DevilintheDetail
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Is Burress a #1 fantasy WR for the rest of the season? (1 Viewer)
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
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gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
since 2001 he has missed 6 games.
Max Power
Footballguy
I thought he missed more time than that. My Bad...Still dont think he is a #1
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
The last two seasons he's been a #1 wr (top 12) in 12+team leagues. So far there's no reason to think differently. In his last 18 games he has 16 touchdowns.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Really dependent upon:1) How many teams in the league; and2) The scoring systemAbsent that, in the leagues I play in? NO
pollardsvision
Footballguy
this is the 3rd year in a row now that i've watched plax over the 1st few games and thought, "damn, this guy is great. he's huge, goes up to make great catches, and they throw it to him all the time"
for the past 2 years, i never got around to trading for him and was always glad i didn't get him by the the end of the season.
(although, it does seem like someone always gets WR1 value for him by trading him by week 4 and makes out like a bandit)
maybe this could be the year he keeps it up all season, but once again, he won't be on my team, no matter what happens.
for the past 2 years, i never got around to trading for him and was always glad i didn't get him by the the end of the season.
(although, it does seem like someone always gets WR1 value for him by trading him by week 4 and makes out like a bandit)
maybe this could be the year he keeps it up all season, but once again, he won't be on my team, no matter what happens.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
Hell yea, and I have Burress and Lee Evans (who will be breaking out any week now)...... Along with Braylon Edwards who I knew was going to have a breakout season this year. I also have Randle El, Patrick Crayton, and Mark Clayton on my squad. I am hoping that Mark Clayton will become healthy, and put up some big numbers as he was projected to.
Shrek
Having a great season
He's one of my #1's. Don't see what's not to like. He has developed some sort of bond with Manning, because Manning obviously has no problem targeting him a lot, especially in the red zone. If Shockey doesn't get a TD pretty soon, though, I will start to get worried. Because whenever he thinks he's not getting the ball enough, he starts whining and sowing discontent.
Oddly, I have Steve Smith and Roy Williams and was going up against Ward and Burress. CBSsportsline gave the edge to Ward and Burress by a good margin.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Just like Marvin.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
No, because there's about 10 other guys I can tell you that are in front of him.
Avery
Footballguy
BuckeyeArt
Footballguy
Doesn't being #11 make him a #1?
BuckeyeArt
Footballguy
Or maybe last year. His first 7 games last year - 81 FP's. The second 7 games - 75.2 FP's. In fact, out of the 156.2 FP's through week 16 last year (15 games), he had 11 games over 10 points. Pretty consistent.
PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
az he is out for the year.....Receiver Plaxico Burress suffered ankle and pinky sprains on Sunday, Plax said he is playing on sunday vs WASHINGTON
Captain Spaulding
Footballguy
I have 10 WR's on my dynasty roster and not one of them puts up stats as good as Burress (I'm sitting 2-0 by the way). He's performing top 5 right now and has been a consistent top 10-20 Wr for a few years (and he's mid career) I'd say he's a lower end #1 WR.
Raiders Fan
The Black Hole
If Manning is in he he no doubt.. If Manning isn't in he isn't worth playing. If you watched the games you would see Manning looks for him all he time and he even throws it to him like Culpepper did to Moss.
Steelnation
Footballguy
That's because CBS is a joke
Banger
Footballguy
That's not different than last year either and he wasn't the #1 wr. Yes, he's definitely Manning's #1 option I just don't think he'll be #1 o/a.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Since Ward is playing the Niners and Burress is against the Skins I think it is conceivable.
Steelnation
Footballguy
Plax is banged up and the Skins secondary is the real deal. Ward will have decent stats but Ben has other options like Holmes, Nate, FWP and Heath.Smith is on fire and puts up huge numbers in domes. Roy Williams is simply a stud. I would take Smith and Williams over Hine and Plexiglass any day of the week regardless of the match up.If we remember, let's check back on Monday
NYG Endzone
Footballguy
Don't put too much into his "nicked up" status. No reason to bench him in any league IMO.
jurrassic
Footballguy
I hear ya. Normally, I will start him every week, but I really like Moss's matchup vs. NYG this week, and my opponent has Brady as his qb. I know a bunch of people are anti this philosphy, but Welker has been very solid so far this year, and I want to be able to steal some of Brady's points back. If Brady throws for 300 and Welker catches 100 of that, the yards cancel out.
zamboni
Footballguy
Plax is a maddening guy to have. He's got tons of talent and puts up big points from time to time, but seems to lack that consistency, intensity and hunger that the top-tier guys have. This latter aspect IMO is what prevents him, and may always do so, from reaching the upper echelon.
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Men-in-Cleats
Footballguy
I hear this sort of overanalyzation all of the time and it is incredibly ridiculous. You cannot gameplan an opponent as you only have control over your own roster. Your opponent will score the exact same amount of points no matter whom you have on your roster. If you have another player that scores the same amount as Welker or more then your results will be either the same or better. There is absolutely no reason to start Welker over a player expected to score significantly more points. If you have two players expected to have roughly the same point total one can make a weak argument for it but under no other circumstances is this a good idea. Welker is a #2/#3 fantasy WR at best if you have PPR and probably a #3/#4 if no PPR so why one would start him over a guy off to a top 5 WR start is insane.jurrassic said:
jurrassic
Footballguy
It's called hedging your bets young skywalker. Projections are just that. I can't tell you how many times I had a player PROJECTED to blow up. It doesn't mean they will. Welker is currently the 18th ranked wr in my 12 team league. That certainly makes him start worthy. In addition, yes one of my other wr's may score more points but chances are if Brady has a good game so will Welker. Why take the chance. If my 3rd wr can assist me in taking points off the board from my opponents 2nd best player. I am going to do it. It's not like I am rolling Chad Jackson out there.
VerticalVike
Footballguy
I don't understand why people continue to argue that Burress is inconsistent despite the posts and evidences that seem to prove otherwise.
I will say that he is more likely to put up games like game 2 vs. game 1, but he was the definition of consistent last year in our scoring rules.
I will say that he is more likely to put up games like game 2 vs. game 1, but he was the definition of consistent last year in our scoring rules.
minister
Footballguy
I'll say yes.
While Burress will come back to earth from 4 scores in 2 games, it's clear that he's an excellent redzone target.
He hasn't benefited from an unusually high number of opportunities (13 targets).
And his tendency to get nicked up doesn't scare me much; he hasn't missed that much time in his past.
While Burress will come back to earth from 4 scores in 2 games, it's clear that he's an excellent redzone target.
He hasn't benefited from an unusually high number of opportunities (13 targets).
And his tendency to get nicked up doesn't scare me much; he hasn't missed that much time in his past.
Men-in-Cleats
Footballguy
It doesn't take a single point away from your opponent, that's the problem, and there's no way you can look at it that way. He has a QB and he has a WR too. If Brady goes off and your QB doesn't then you are behind in the QB battle and need to make it up at other positions, not weaken yourself at other positions when he has an advantage at QB. It's not called hedging your bets, its called taking points off of your weekly total. If you look at it via expected values, Burress may not reach his projections but his probability of reaching or exceeding his projected values has to be higher than that for Welker. If Brady throws for 4 TD's but they go to Moss, Watson, and Sammie Morris and Welker has 5 receptions for 60 yards to Burress's 7 receptions for 150 yards and 2 TD's then you just screwed yourself over and possibly gave yourself a loss for the week. The likelihood of Welker having a big game is less than the likelihood of Burress having one and it isn't as if their floors are any different. If anything, Burress has been a more consistent scorer than Welker so statistically you are giving yourself a lower expected value. It may make sense to hedge your bet if two players give you equal expected value but it is suicidal in this particular circumstance unless you see Burress getting completely shut down by his particular opponent. There is absolutely no way you can support this argument mathematically so don't call it a hedge. There are just too many variables for this strategy to give you any sort of advantage in any way shape or form. Even if Brady does go off there is too low of a probability of Welker being the big beneficiary of this to make it a profitable hedge. There are too many people for him to distribute the receiving yardage and TD's to and while Welker has done well thus far, he hasn't been anywhere close to getting the biggest piece of the pie and there is nothing to indicate that he'd get a bigger chunk this particular week. Mathematically you are bending yourself over benching Burress for Welker. It may end up differently but that doesn't support your argument.
In a TD heavy league, he's UNBENCHABLE against any opponent In a yardage league, I would only bench him against Top 5 defenses, and only if my other option was solid. He lacks yards to be a top #1 WR, but as a weak #1/strong #2, you can't ask for much more than what he delivered last year and so far this year. He's usually nicked, but rarely sits. I like Burress a lot, and the weak Giants "D" will only help him more. I think he'll end the year w/ something like 1075 yards and 12 TD's. That's an average of about .6 TD's/game and roughly 65 yards/game the rest of the way. Seems attainable to me.
Actually I was referring to last weeks games. It ended up Smith/Williams 58....Ward/Burress 17.....Plax is banged up and the Skins secondary is the real deal. Ward will have decent stats but Ben has other options like Holmes, Nate, FWP and Heath.Smith is on fire and puts up huge numbers in domes. Roy Williams is simply a stud. I would take Smith and Williams over Hine and Plexiglass any day of the week regardless of the match up.If we remember, let's check back on Monday
VerticalVike
Footballguy
Can we finally get rid of the inconsistent tag for Burress? All he does is get you touch or 100 yards every week for the past year and half...
montanatorice
Footballguy
Burress fast becoming stud status
az_prof
Footballguy
That doesn't reflect how many times he is hurt but plays, and doesn't do that well as a result. I agree that he will NOT be the top Wr because of injuries and inconsistency.I thought he missed more time than that. My Bad...Still dont think he is a #1
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