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Is Calvin Johnson really a must start this week? (1 Viewer)
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davidwb
Footballguy
that depends, of course, upon what your other options are. stanton and johnson did OK in previous games, even if last week was atrocious. at least megatron gets to go against a very depleted bucs d -- especially their secondary. bottom line, unless you have a really good alternative, you should probably start him.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Absolutely not (me)!It's the FF play-offs and I'm gonna dance with who brung me here!
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Benching him for who? It totally depends on who you have to insert and no he is not a must start. Even Roddy White isnt a must start in 1 WR leagues because your other WR might be Andre Johnson. Capiche?
Dizzy
Footballguy
Santonio Holmes... of the NYJ... playing AT Pittsburgh?Good luck... I wish I was playing against you.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
DittoSantonio Holmes... of the NYJ... playing AT Pittsburgh?Good luck... I wish I was playing against you.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Stanton was hard to watch last week and I think Holmes is going to have a bounce back game vs. the Steelers...the only real question is how many targets will the Jets OC give him.At least Holmes targets will be quality targets, unlike Stanton's inaccurate ducks.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
I see a lot of 4 and outs in that game myself.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
My only option is Brandon Marshall vs Buffalo. So I'm going to stick with him and hope for the best. Wish he had a QB to take over a game with a 7-110-2 type stat line,
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Steeler offense has been struggling some too...Jets are going to get their chances.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Just go back and look at Sanchise/NYJ versus teams with WINNING records this season.If they can't run the ball - and they WON'T this week - they are dead in the water.
buck naked
Footballguy
If I were you i'd bench him. His 12 td's this year despite 3 different QB's are all in the past. Plus, you never know but Tampa could to be starting a new, soon-to-be Pro Bowl cornerback to take the place of the one they just lost to injury.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Most of those with Stafford and Hill...Stanton sucks...bad.
It doesn't matter because Stanton can't get him the ball
kingmalaki
Footballguy
I'm probably going to bench him for Britt.
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
You'd have to have some pretty impressive options on your bench to not start Calvin.
OR you'd have to have an accurate crystal ball to know which WR2/WR3 is going to have the Derrick Mason-Jacoby Jones-type of game.
OR you'd have to have an accurate crystal ball to know which WR2/WR3 is going to have the Derrick Mason-Jacoby Jones-type of game.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
In three games Stanton has hit Calvin for TDs of 87 and 46 yards. In the three games where Stanton has been the primary passer, Calvin is averaging 85.3 yards receiving. No doubt that Stanton is the worst of the Lions' 3 QBs, but against a Bucs defense without Talib or McCoy there's no way I'd bench Johnson.
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
Wouldn't most people logically bench Calvin Johnson (when they played the Giants who are a great defense and Calvin was Questionable with a shoulder injury?) I know I benched him that week. And yes if you take away his 86yard TD Stanton threw him he would've had a WR2/WR3 day. But the point is this. The Lions defense can't hardly stop anyone. So they have to Throw and throw and throw. So because of so much throwing and Megatron can break one off at anytime. You almost have to start him. Or you end up doing this when he goes off for 120 yards and a TD
If you could guarantee me 15 targets, I'd be all on board the Megatron express.
But his low reception count with Stanton throwing him the ball worries the hell out of me.
1 catch out of 11 targets last week... I don't care whether it was against a good D or not. I hate that line.
This is the same scenario Fitzgerald owners have been faced with all season.
I agree with the masses that benching him for Holmes would be foolishness. Sanchez hasn't shown himself to be any better than Stanton.
I have Tampa Mike in the same game and I'd have a hard time benching Calvin for him... the Lions D hasn't exactly played poorly against teams with OK offenses.
But I do have Nicks. And I have Britt. And I have a huge deficit to make up due to Vernon Davis getting skunked. Nicks is a must-start in any scenario and I trust Collins to get Britt the ball at home against Houston (a team that plays well against the run) more than I trust Stanton to get Megatron the ball on the road against Tampa Bay (a team that does not play well against the run; I think Best redeems himself this week).
So the question now is this... do I find a spot in my active roster to start Megatron at FLEX over Felix Jones or Ahmad Bradshaw? With a likely scenario of only 3-4 receptions, I'm thinking no.
But his low reception count with Stanton throwing him the ball worries the hell out of me.
1 catch out of 11 targets last week... I don't care whether it was against a good D or not. I hate that line.
This is the same scenario Fitzgerald owners have been faced with all season.
I agree with the masses that benching him for Holmes would be foolishness. Sanchez hasn't shown himself to be any better than Stanton.
I have Tampa Mike in the same game and I'd have a hard time benching Calvin for him... the Lions D hasn't exactly played poorly against teams with OK offenses.
But I do have Nicks. And I have Britt. And I have a huge deficit to make up due to Vernon Davis getting skunked. Nicks is a must-start in any scenario and I trust Collins to get Britt the ball at home against Houston (a team that plays well against the run) more than I trust Stanton to get Megatron the ball on the road against Tampa Bay (a team that does not play well against the run; I think Best redeems himself this week).
So the question now is this... do I find a spot in my active roster to start Megatron at FLEX over Felix Jones or Ahmad Bradshaw? With a likely scenario of only 3-4 receptions, I'm thinking no.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
benching him for SEA Mike Williams .... crazy ?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I think that ranking is based on Hill playing at Qb. It's now looking like Hill may not be ready so don't be surprised if those rankings come down closer to game time. Keep in mind the TB secondary is dinged up. The top 5 ranking with Hill is warranted. With Stanton in there, it's more of a risky play.Is he in your top 20? Either way most people would have him ranked inside their top 24 making him an easy start.LHUCKS said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Yep. Anything can happen but Megatron is healthy, last time Williams played he left the game early.Stealthycat said:
kingmalaki
Footballguy
Same boat for me. I'm rolling with Britt and trying to decide if I want to roll with CJ over Stewart. Probably not....Lascelle said:
banjomatic
Footballguy
Never. Bench. Your. Studs.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
:unsubscribe:At the very least everybody has him overranked this week...no way is he a top 5 WR with Stanton.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
You have to go with Johnson.
Saint
Footballguy
Because no one posts in the AC Forum because no one ever answers over there. It has really gotten fairly sad.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Time for Joe to either #### or get off the pot. The rash of WDIS threads has spread in the SP this year, in part because of exactly this...no one goes to the ACF. But, of course, we all have lineup decisions, and the crafty guys post those questions in the SP and hope no one's watching. If the ACF is ever to succeed, they need to get serious about moderating these threads out of the SP and into the ACF.But, that won't happen, so just blow that thing up, already. It's worthless, if it's not going to be used for what it was intended.
Das Boot
Footballguy
Lots of people have CJ and his is a very complicated case. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-yous. Definitely worthy of its own thread.
bringerofchill
Footballguy
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Stanton has gone up against 2 very tough pass defenses (against Wr's) the last two weeks. This is not the case this week as Tampa Bay has key secondary out as well as Pittsburgh. Not only do they have secondary out, they have some D linemen out, which will limit the pass rush which should allow Stanton some time.Keep in mind this: Fantasy wise Stanton has played bad but he's had 2 start this year. They played even with the Bears, he played much better than I thought he would. Then they played the Packers and beat them 7-3. The good news about that is the team is feeling kind of good about that. They're not entering the game with their heads down and looking to finish out the season. They're turned on and ready to play, and that includes Megatron. The offense knows they need to try and get Megatron the ball and with key defenders out on Tampa, this may be the week it happens.You know as well as I that just about anything can happen in fantasy football, so sure, Holmes might outperform Johnson. I personally think the right play is to start Johnson. When you look at how Sanchez has been playing himself and who he's up against regardless if Polamalu is out, it's hard to love that matchup either. That dude is about to get pulled himself.You know you worry about posters just posting because they have that player on their team and not being objective. I have both of these guys myself and I can tell you I'm going with Megatron. I chose to start VJax over a couple other receivers the other night and the question I asked myself is who has more talent? My answer was VJax so I started him and I was rewarded. I did ask myself that same questions 2 weeks prior and got burned, but I should have waited till he had 1 full game under his belt, which he had before he went off this past week.So ask yourself who has more talent Megatron or Holmes? I think there are negatives in both camps. No, you can't like Stanton in terms of fantasy purposes. No, you can't like Sanchez or at least how he's played recently and of course the matchup in Pittsburgh stinks.Got to roll with Megatron. Throw the freaken ball up to this guy and he'll catch it. Hopefully Stanton will learn it and just do it. Hill finally learned how to do it after a slow start, maybe this guy will too.
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
In the ACF.Otherwise, get rid of the thing. As the previous poster said, it's a "sad" and depressing place.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Agree, unless he's going against Revis, of course.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Unfortunately, (or fortunately) I have a bunch of options this week. Is he better than Steve Johnson or BMW in PPR? I'm not sure. Better than Fitz? Again, not sure.
My guess is that Tampa is going to have problems with Talib and McCoy out. If it's a close game you gotta figure Calvin is a big part of the plan to get a win. I'm leaning toward starting him because of the opponent.
So is he a must-start? he might not be your WR1 but he's probably your WR2 and it's hard to imagine he's not your WR3. In most formats, yeah.
My guess is that Tampa is going to have problems with Talib and McCoy out. If it's a close game you gotta figure Calvin is a big part of the plan to get a win. I'm leaning toward starting him because of the opponent.
So is he a must-start? he might not be your WR1 but he's probably your WR2 and it's hard to imagine he's not your WR3. In most formats, yeah.
Das Boot
Footballguy
"Help, do I start A or B ??? !!!"
That's for the ACF
"Is Calvin Johnson really a must start this week?"
That's a great and useful SP thread.
You're right about some threads being thinly veiled WDIS... this isn't one of them though.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
It's not thinly veiled at all. It's blatantly obvious. Don't have to look far to see where LHUCKS's intent lies:
It's a WDIS thread. Pretty obvious.Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum
Just get rid of the ACF. Nobody's paying attention to it.
Agreed. Keep the focus on Calvin Johnson and not on your roster and this is good. Talking about what we expect a player to do this week is exactly what the Shark Pool is.
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