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Is Carson Palmer a good buy low? (1 Viewer)
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two_dollars
Footballguy
There were 40 mph winds in Cinci with rain, no QB was going to have a good day in those conditions.
vikingdave
Footballguy
I got him in one league and was trying to give him away last week...at this point Ill trade him for a bag of Doritos, any flavor...
The psychological profile on him predraft was that he would be great when things were going good and would wilt when faced with adversity.He's gonna be awful all year IMO, that team isn't good and he doesn't handle failure well.He's actually a sell high at this point, his value is only going to go lower and he isn't much better then a WW QB at this time.
hooptd
Footballguy
I never looked at it that way, bet it's a very goog point. I don't own Palmer in any leagues and until this week, I would have looked to aquire him. Not now, even for a bag of Dorito's.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Stay away this year. Our O-line is absolutely brutal. And CJ is an idiot - he can't even get his name change on his jersey correct.
Restricted
Footballguy
I really don't want any bengals on my roster this year. Even the IDPs where thay seem to be on the field forever...
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't like any Cinci Bengal right now
FavreCo
Footballguy
Redraft ? ......don't bother. They are a mess. They will be lucky to start 1-7.
cowboysin07
Footballguy
I know I will be in the minority but I like him the rest of the year (don't own him in any leaugue). Too good of WR's to be that bad. I think QB 5-9.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
This is the correct answer. It's going to a brutal year for my Bengals I'm afraid. That said, Carson is still a good buy low candidate as it won't be 40 MPH winds every time they are trying to come from behind and make up the inevitable deficit. They are going to have to throw A LOT.That said, I'm glad I drafted Rodgers as my QB3 as generic value behind Palmer and Garrard!-QG[scooter] said:
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Palmer has already seen his best years. There's no "buy" here at all unless he's traded.
Yes...redraft.With the WR weapons, Palmer has to get better than this. Last week was Baltimore defense, and this week was the wind along with the Titans great D. Once Chris Henry returns, I think Palmer could put up some really good numbers.
Saint
Footballguy
Weather was a major factor today, but look at the schedule down the road:
- Giants
- Browns
- Cowboys
- Jets
- Steelers
- Texans
- Jaguars
- Eagles
- Steelers
- Ravens
- Colts
- Redskins
- Browns
- Chiefs
I really don't like his schedule down the road. As for selling, I don't think you'll get any value for him at all.
- Giants
- Browns
- Cowboys
- Jets
- Steelers
- Texans
- Jaguars
- Eagles
- Steelers
- Ravens
- Colts
- Redskins
- Browns
- Chiefs
I really don't like his schedule down the road. As for selling, I don't think you'll get any value for him at all.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Not a bad playoff schedule, with Cleveland projecting to have the 2nd-worst passing defense, and Washington 19th. If you can afford to stash Palmer on your bench in the regular season, he just might lead you to the Superbowl.
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Cookiemonster
Footballguy
He's a good QB when facing a team that they can block. He doesn't do too well under heavy pressure. I've put the teams in bold that I think he can do well against. I don't have the schedule in front of me, but he also doesn't do well in bad weather. Look at which of the bolded games may be bad weather and you can decide if he's worth a 2nd QB on your roster. He may cover a bye well or have a favorable playoff matchup, but I had Campbell starting over him this week, and last year would have advanced in the playoffs if I had started T.Edwards instead. I'm in the camp that says he has faced two of the AFC's best defenses so far, and shouldn't be this bad week in and week out, but have lost enough faith in him to start a pedestrian Campbell over him because of matchups.I prefer ranch or hot Doritos, if you're interested.
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valhallan
Footballguy
Man, we're going to be seeing these buy low questions all year. The fact is that the Bengals are a terrible team and it's not getting better under Marvin Lewis. Pray that he's fired and someone with half a brain comes in, THEN buy low in next years draft.
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4 - Digit Shark
Footballguy
How many people sold, or bought low on D. Brees last year after the first "4" weeks. Two more bad weeks then we're talking about here with Palmer. Through those 4 weeks in 2007, Brees posted 924/1/9, or 231/.25/2.25 per game. Over the last 12 weeks he posted 3504/27/9, or 292/2.28/.75 per game. Point is, it's way to early to write off the season after 2 weeks.
Palmer has averaged 4000/28.7/15 over the last 3 years. Yes, the TD's and Int's have been going the wrong way over those 3 years, but he's on a very impressive run. No matter what the situation is in CIN, he still has the same receiving weapons, and there is no way he will continue to be as bad as he has been over the first 2 weeks. Considering Palmer has started off with 233/0/3, in 2 games, there is no where to go but up.
If his current owner has completely given up on him already, I'd take the chance if the price was right.
I do not own Palmer in any league.
Palmer has averaged 4000/28.7/15 over the last 3 years. Yes, the TD's and Int's have been going the wrong way over those 3 years, but he's on a very impressive run. No matter what the situation is in CIN, he still has the same receiving weapons, and there is no way he will continue to be as bad as he has been over the first 2 weeks. Considering Palmer has started off with 233/0/3, in 2 games, there is no where to go but up.
If his current owner has completely given up on him already, I'd take the chance if the price was right.
I do not own Palmer in any league.
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If I can get Palmer for Hasselbeck, should I do it??
W1cked
Footballguy
As a Palmer owner in one league... u have given me hope.I owned Brees last year, and of course I own Palmer this year. I held on to my boy Breesy and happily missed the playoffs because of my 0 - 4 start. Its going to be a fun ride.As a Palmer owner in one league... u have given me hope.
I entirely agree that jumping ship is premature at this point.
Tomlinson has about 120 yards and 0 TD through two weeks. The sky is falling!
Maybe Palmer won't pan out, but panic at this point is pretty goofy. Unless you can get a guppy to give a top 10 QB for him then start your #2 for another couple weeks to see if things get better. I benched him yesterday and was glad I did. I won't dump him for at least a few more weeks.
Tomlinson has about 120 yards and 0 TD through two weeks. The sky is falling!
Maybe Palmer won't pan out, but panic at this point is pretty goofy. Unless you can get a guppy to give a top 10 QB for him then start your #2 for another couple weeks to see if things get better. I benched him yesterday and was glad I did. I won't dump him for at least a few more weeks.
jurrassic
Footballguy
I wouldn't buy him right now. Besides the 5 td game vs. the Browns last year, he really hasn't done much in a few years. The Bengals team is not good, and there really isn't any reason for it. They have 2 good wr's, a better pass-catching te this year, a rb who can catch the ball. Somthing is not right with this team.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Every other week that train derails.jaybebo said:
Irish
Footballguy
Yes without any hesitation. Hasselbeck has back issues and no Wr to throw to.
Domination
Footballguy
I think that Cincy has to go back to what was working a few years ago. That is letting Palmer throw the ball all day, and letting the run get going off of the pass. It hasn't worked for them the other way around the last few years. They seem to be very conservative until it is too late.
sholditch
Footballguy
Kerry Collins did. IN fact, way better than Carson. To OP, I have no idea. There are so many things wrong with Cincy I could easily see it being a blackhole for fantasy value all season. However, Cincy is really no worse than it's been the past three years and Palmer, Chad, and Hous have all gotten theirs. Tough to call.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Yeah but Collins did it against the Bengals defense. I will hold Palmer for now. He's faced 2 brutal defenses & dealt with nasty winds. He gets Henry back soon. His receivers missed nearly all the preseason & the line "should" get better as the season progresses.*at least that is what I keep telling myself.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
In what way? He is viewed as the bright spot in Cincy and well known around the league to still be one of the best. In dynasty, imo, palmer is very underrated. People have pretty bad memories around here.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I can't disagree that Palmer may have had his worst games of the season as his first two and could salvage the season (fantasy wise, that is). But I fail to understand how the difference between good Palmer and bad Palmer is Chris Henry.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Exactly...and it's a something that's a little more significant than not having a WR3 (Chris Henry) available.If Chris Henry is the answer, it must have been a f'd up question.jurrassic said:
blackjack23
Footballguy
Debating an offer of Big Ben & Roddy White for Palmer & Calvin Johnson. Palmer would be my starting QB if I did this.
2000 called, it wants its quote back.
valhallan
Footballguy
Take it fast. Calvin is more valuable than both of those guys.
Palmer is basically a free throw in. Calvin is the man.
valhallan
Footballguy
I fought this battle during the off-season...First four seasons:
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Comp Att Comp% Yards YPA TD TD% Int Int%Bledsoe 1310 2379 55.1% 14642 6.15 80 3.36% 73 3.07%Palmer 1305 2036 64.1% 14899 7.32 104 5.11% 63 3.09%
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Comp Att % Yards YPA TD IntManning 1357 2226 61.0% 16418 7.4 111 81Palmer 1305 2036 64.1% 14899 7.3 104 63
PahtyTom
Footballguy
bump this in december please k thanksSteeler43 said:2000 called, it wants its quote back.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Palmer will get back on track, I would say hes a good buy low.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I am not going to argue the Bengals are a solid organization but I will say that Palmer has looked bad this season, even when he's had time and an open receiver. He may get his mojo back this season but he sure hasn't looked too good thus far.valhallan said:
