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Is Felix Jones worth rostering ? (1 Viewer)

jacobo_moses

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Is Felix Jones just fading from anykind of use in the Dallas offense.??? What are the chances he asks for a trade in the offseason if this keeps up. I mean the guy has a great YPC average and can catch really well and he was drafted in the 1st Rnd by Dallas. What is the deal here.

Any Dallas Homers or anyone give me some insight here.

So is he even worth rostering when he gets like 4 carries like he did Sunday. ???

 
Barely. Him barely getting any touches in a game as big as the one against Philly last week is not a good sign. He'll probably bust out for a long TD or two in a game or two down the stretch, but good luck guessing which games that will happen in.

 
Included him as balance in a deal since he does not see my starting lineup (behind Hightower & Kevin Smith)

 
It's been tough owing Felix this year.. When healthy he does quite a bit with the touches he gets.. He just really doesn't get many. I won't drop him in my league since he does have huge upside if something happened to Barber & he is healthy. I wouldn't drop him but he most likely will be a wasted pick this year for a redraft league.. Can't really fault the Cowboys though as they are winning..

 
I don't understand how Dallas uses Felix. The guy has truly amazing running skills. His yards per touch is elite, though with a small sample size. They talked all offseason about how they needed to get him the ball because he's such a big playmaker. They spent a lot of time in training camp putting in plays specifically for him. I fully expected him to get 12-15 touches a game.

But that hasnt happened once. They give him the ball so seldomly. Especially when Barber is active. It sure looked like he was ready to explode in that game he started when Barber was out. But of course, he then got hurt himself, so he was limited to 10 touches.

I do wonder if he's playing hurt with his knee. He hasn't shown the same electric moves since coming back that he displayed earlier in the season and last year.

But regardless. He's definitely not lived up to his draft status. And I've considered dropping him in shallower leagues. Its just tough to do because you know he's got "IT". At least when Dallas decides to give him the ball.

 
jacobo_moses said:
Is Felix Jones just fading from anykind of use in the Dallas offense.??? What are the chances he asks for a trade in the offseason if this keeps up. I mean the guy has a great YPC average and can catch really well and he was drafted in the 1st Rnd by Dallas. What is the deal here.

Any Dallas Homers or anyone give me some insight here.

So is he even worth rostering when he gets like 4 carries like he did Sunday. ???
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Your best bet is to NOT listen to a Dallas homer. Live here - Falcon fan, NFL fan. I warned those that would listen that the unreasonable bandwagon for Felix began steaming in June/ July by beat writers and pseudo insiders who were charmed by Jones and Choice and as usual were always dissatisfied with the status quo. As best I can figure out Barber doesn't talk to anyone and Choice and Felix were like babbling lovable country boys willing to talk to the press and thus were given favor. Nowhere was Phillips or Jerry saying Barber was on the way out as some had hoped. Until the 4 game win streak- there seemed to be an organized campaign to get Phillips run out of town. It appears teams want to use their Bushs, Norwoods, Felix Jones as spot players and not the feature back still holds.

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Ghost Rider said:
Barely. Him barely getting any touches in a game as big as the one against Philly last week is not a good sign. He'll probably bust out for a long TD or two in a game or two down the stretch, but good luck guessing which games that will happen in.
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No one really got touches that game. Barber had 13, Choice 3, Felix 4... they basically didn't run.Felix is still wearing the knee brace, and that is limiting his explosiveness a little bit.

Running back Felix Jones carried only four times for 10 yards Sunday at Philadelphia, with his longest run going for four yards. It appeared Jones was tentative as he tried to hit the holes. He missed two games with a sprained ligament in his knee and just last week practiced without a brace. It's possible he will play Sunday at Green Bay without the brace for the first time since suffering the injury Sept. 28.

"I don't think he was tentative," Phillips said. "I think he looks healthy to me and probably more healthy for this game."
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As far as roster worthy, that's your call. Who knows what he'll do this week, but last time he played against GB he did this.Hard to call a guy drafted in the 8th round or later a bust though... that's pretty ridiculous.

 
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I drafted him in round 14 and thought I got a steal. Was really excited when Barber went down and he got the start, looked like a monster in the first half and then promptly got hurt.

I dumped him afterwards and have no regrets. Sure the guy is a home run waiting to happen the problem is you can never count on him.

 
It's frustrating to own him and Choice. Who would have thunk to play choice over jones last week although neither did much at least choice got a td

 
Don't read the Dallas thread there are lots of delusional homers in there. The guy is vastly overrated and in most formats does not deserve a roster spot. He can't pickup the blitz well, or at least as well as Barber or Choice so when he is on the field it's an obvious handoff or screen to the guy. Teams have him pegged. He's also banged up with a knee brace and with his extreme propensity to get injured he is not worth having. He's getting phased out of kick returns this week to try to get him more touches in the offense, but it's unlikely to project him to get consecutive weeks of 10+ again this season.

Waiver wire guys like Betts, McClain, Jennings are worth well more at this point in the case of long term injury to their starter.

 
Typical Dallas thread.

Ridgelake's post is by far the best on this topic.

Felix Jones:

Talented-check

Explosive home run hitter-Check

Hurt-Check

3 headed RBBC-Semi check

I'll just add that this week should be a better indication of what you should see going forward. His brace is coming off and he should be closer to normal.

 
You really can't answer the OP's question. Whether Felix Jones should be rostered depends on the # of teams in your league, roster spots per team, the makeup of your team, etc.

Fwiw, I drafted Felix in the 8th round of a 12 team redraft league, start 2 rb, 14 man rosters, standard scoring non-ppr. I just recently dropped him for Shonn Greene after Greene's big game, because for at least this season Greene has far more upside than Felix, imo.

 
i like how the felix faithful are playing it off like he was some kind of late rounder. if you got him late great but felix had an adp of #82 or 6.10 according to fbg's consensus adp rankings from the top fantasy draft sites.

 
Titus Pullo said:
i like how the felix faithful are playing it off like he was some kind of late rounder. if you got him late great but felix had an adp of #82 or 6.10 according to fbg's consensus adp rankings from the top fantasy draft sites.
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:unsure: I was going to post the same thing but I know every league is different. I took him in the 7th round in my 12 team & he actually went in the 4th in my 14 team league..
 
Kuz said:
Titus Pullo said:
i like how the felix faithful are playing it off like he was some kind of late rounder. if you got him late great but felix had an adp of #82 or 6.10 according to fbg's consensus adp rankings from the top fantasy draft sites.
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:thumbup: I was going to post the same thing but I know every league is different. I took him in the 7th round in my 12 team & he actually went in the 4th in my 14 team league..
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True, he has been one of the bigger busts this season. I think I got him in the 8th in the one league I had him in.The thing is though, you can't predict injuries. If the guy doesn't get injured when he did, he could of easily turned into a solid RB2 the rest of the season.

Personally, I don't regret taking him at the top of the 8th round at all, and if I would definitely do it again without hesitation.

 
In dynasty I still have high hope for Jones.

In redraft patience and the right match up or injury to barber may help win you a championship with this guy if you have the ability to hold.

I think Dallas themselves are still unsure how they are planning on using their 3 RB's. I think the off season plan really was meant for Jones to get 12-15 touches per week and then injuries and other in season factors occured and things changed.

 
Titus Pullo said:
i like how the felix faithful are playing it off like he was some kind of late rounder. if you got him late great but felix had an adp of #82 or 6.10 according to fbg's consensus adp rankings from the top fantasy draft sites.
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It depends on when you drafted, as his ranking climbed closer to the season. He still isn't a bust :goodposting:
 
culdeus said:
Don't read the Dallas thread there are lots of delusional homers in there. The guy is vastly overrated and in most formats does not deserve a roster spot. He can't pickup the blitz well, or at least as well as Barber or Choice so when he is on the field it's an obvious handoff or screen to the guy. Teams have him pegged. He's also banged up with a knee brace and with his extreme propensity to get injured he is not worth having. He's getting phased out of kick returns this week to try to get him more touches in the offense, but it's unlikely to project him to get consecutive weeks of 10+ again this season.

Waiver wire guys like Betts, McClain, Jennings are worth well more at this point in the case of long term injury to their starter.
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You tried this in the other thread to, but it's simply not true. It was a weakness his rookie season, which is typicaL, but he's been solid in pass protection this year. Both Peetes (RB coach) and Phillips have said how all 3 RBs have been solid in their blitz pickups this year.
 
Dexter Manley said:
The thing is though, you can't predict injuries. If the guy doesn't get injured when he did, he could of easily turned into a solid RB2 the rest of the season.Personally, I don't regret taking him at the top of the 8th round at all, and if I would definitely do it again without hesitation.
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i wouldn't regret it either. felix was someone i was targeting in all my leagues but got beat to the punch in most of them. there is no doubting his athletic abilities and his ceiling is extremely high when healthy. unfortunately injuries hit again and his floor remains low. next year i'll for sure be looking at him again and hopefully back to back seasons with missing time will help lower is adp.also need to note that it's not too late to see some fireworks from felix and that he lives up to his adp of 82.
 
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Other thoughts on his dynasty value? I was offering a ton for him earlier in the season (rejected), but now I am not so sure.

 
switz said:
Titus Pullo said:
i like how the felix faithful are playing it off like he was some kind of late rounder. if you got him late great but felix had an adp of #82 or 6.10 according to fbg's consensus adp rankings from the top fantasy draft sites.
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It depends on when you drafted, as his ranking climbed closer to the season. He still isn't a bust :shrug:
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So far he's been a bust.. He's most likely ranked like in the 50's for RB's this year. I know he was hurt etc but there's no other way to spin that Felix has been anything but a bust for Fantasy purposes.. Not trying to get you going as I like him as well. & hopeful he may have a few good games this year... but he's been brutal in FF terms..
 
switz said:
culdeus said:
Don't read the Dallas thread there are lots of delusional homers in there. The guy is vastly overrated and in most formats does not deserve a roster spot. He can't pickup the blitz well, or at least as well as Barber or Choice so when he is on the field it's an obvious handoff or screen to the guy. Teams have him pegged. He's also banged up with a knee brace and with his extreme propensity to get injured he is not worth having. He's getting phased out of kick returns this week to try to get him more touches in the offense, but it's unlikely to project him to get consecutive weeks of 10+ again this season.

Waiver wire guys like Betts, McClain, Jennings are worth well more at this point in the case of long term injury to their starter.
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You tried this in the other thread to, but it's simply not true. It was a weakness his rookie season, which is typicaL, but he's been solid in pass protection this year. Both Peetes (RB coach) and Phillips have said how all 3 RBs have been solid in their blitz pickups this year.
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Said and how they've performed are two different matters. They want teams to stop keying on screens when he comes in. It's deception as other NFL teams read the paper as well.
 
I forecasted Felix at about RB25 in a ppr setting. I drafted/auction bought him with that expectation. He hasnt been close to that. He's been a bust to this point in the season. Can he turn it around? Yes. He has the ability. Will he? I have significant doubts at this point.

 
kept him over ray Rice as my rookie keeper this year. I had 2 stud RB's on board already and decided to roll the dice with the guy that i thought was the superior talent. (i was willing to wait a year and see if the Barber situation would work itself out).

If i hadnt made this choice, i'd have 4 of the top 8 RB's in the league (PPR). As it stands, i'm scraping the barrel for a decent 2nd flex starter every week (Thank God for Benson) and i'm struggling for a playoff spot.

 
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On May 20th, I posted what I thought the distribution between the RBs would be....

Barber 225 carries (56%)

Jones 140 carries (35%)

Choice 40 carries (10%)

so far through a half of a season it's been

Barber 98 (52%)

Jones 51 (27%)

Choice 41 (21%)

Not bad as the Jones/Choice carries should level off over the next few weeks :patshimselfonback: :(

 
Felix Jones-RB- Cowboys Nov. 12 - 4:37 pm et

The Cowboys are "strongly considering" replacing Felix Jones on kickoff returns with rookie WR Kevin Ogletree.

Ogletree is splitting time with Jones in practice, though no change has been announced. With 4.36 speed, Ogletree has the speed to be a quality returner. A change would render Jones unstartable in return-yardage leagues.

:football:

 
Banger said:
On May 20th, I posted what I thought the distribution between the RBs would be....Barber 225 carries (56%)Jones 140 carries (35%)Choice 40 carries (10%)so far through a half of a season it's beenBarber 98 (52%)Jones 51 (27%)Choice 41 (21%)Not bad as the Jones/Choice carries should level off over the next few weeks :patshimselfonback: :lmao:
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Did anyone think the Cowboys would run so little?Projections based on games all three RBs playedBarber 210 (14/gm when playing - perhaps 16/gm when "healthy" is he's not now)Jones 113 (8/gm when healthy)Choice 67 (3/gm when Barber & Jones are healthy)
 
BustedKnuckles said:
Felix Jones-RB- Cowboys Nov. 12 - 4:37 pm et

The Cowboys are "strongly considering" replacing Felix Jones on kickoff returns with rookie WR Kevin Ogletree.

Ogletree is splitting time with Jones in practice, though no change has been announced. With 4.36 speed, Ogletree has the speed to be a quality returner. A change would render Jones unstartable in return-yardage leagues.

:lmao:
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Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Felix Jones remains the prime kickoff returner, but the club will look at Kevin Ogletree and Tashard Choice at the position.
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It wouldn't surprise me if they replace him though, that's why they signed Rossum in the first place. They want to use Felix more in the offense, but don't want to overwork him.
 
switz said:
Banger said:
On May 20th, I posted what I thought the distribution between the RBs would be....Barber 225 carries (56%)Jones 140 carries (35%)Choice 40 carries (10%)so far through a half of a season it's beenBarber 98 (52%)Jones 51 (27%)Choice 41 (21%)Not bad as the Jones/Choice carries should level off over the next few weeks :patshimselfonback: :D
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Did anyone think the Cowboys would run so little?Projections based on games all three RBs playedBarber 210 (14/gm when playing - perhaps 16/gm when "healthy" is he's not now)Jones 113 (8/gm when healthy)Choice 67 (3/gm when Barber & Jones are healthy)
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Me. ;) My estimates were 405 carries and they're projected for 390.
 
not so fast

Coach Wade Phillips clarified that the team is looking at other options on kickoff returns because Felix Jones is ready for a heavier offensive load.

"Now, he didn't have as many [touches] the last game but he's really coming back from injury like Marion was," explained Phillips. "The healthier he gets the more touches he'll get on offense." Jones hasn't even been a viable flex play of late. Make sure he works his way back into the offensive mix before considering him a weekly option.

 
I think F. Jones may end up being the M. Sims-Walker of running backs.

Loads of talent, had a knack for getting hurt. Was counted out more than once. People were waiting for him to get his chance. etc etc

I will patiently wait for this just turned 22 year old RB to make his mark. It will come.

 
He was dropped this week in my league. Yeah he may go off any given week on 10-12 touches as long as he doesn't sprain his vag, but he'll be doing it on your bench any way.

 
one league where i was rostering Barber, Felix, and Choice, and had to drop one. Felix was the no-brainer choice (no pun intended). just can't count on him to stay healthy even if he gets the chance.

 
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I would only be holding in deep leagues in Redraft, Dynasty or Keeper you should be holding.

But you can't argue thats hes not been disappointing this yr. Besides his one game where he had the start and got hurt, hes done nothing mean while Choice continues to impress. Felix has a Reggie Bush smell to him...

 
There is no doubt if you've watched the guy to see he has talent. He just sems to be made of glass. It really sux as I think he and Barber would make a great tandem. I'm happy to be a Choice dynasty owner as I think he has a brighter future with the 'boys. I drafted Felix as my RB3 in both of my redraft leagues, and have been very disappointed. Dropped him in both leagues for McCoy.

 
There is no doubt if you've watched the guy to see he has talent. He just sems to be made of glass. It really sux as I think he and Barber would make a great tandem. I'm happy to be a Choice dynasty owner as I think he has a brighter future with the 'boys. I drafted Felix as my RB3 in both of my redraft leagues, and have been very disappointed. Dropped him in both leagues for McCoy.

 
The guy is done as a fantasy option for the season. He'll almost certainly get sat the next two easy games in the hopes he'll be able to perform well for the New Orleans game and the remaining tough divisional matchups.

Drop at will.

 
3-6 for Jones...there's no way to spin these numbers. Very disappointing season for Jones. He may have a couple decent games at the end of the season but overall it's been a lost season for him...again.

 
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