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Is Green Bay the worst 4-0 team ever? (1 Viewer)
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Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I'm not a Packers fan, but they're a great story. They're just like every other 4-0 team ever-- a team with potential that hasn't accomplished anything yet. Why attack them? Isn't it nice for Favre to go out looking like the Hall of Famer we know he is?
Remember Marino throwing five picks in Dallas? Remember Elway winning two Super Bowls in a row? Favre will finish somewhere in between those endings. Last year I thought he was looking a lot like Marino at the end. This is a nice recovery.
4-0 is always better than 3-0 and never as good as 5-0.
Remember Marino throwing five picks in Dallas? Remember Elway winning two Super Bowls in a row? Favre will finish somewhere in between those endings. Last year I thought he was looking a lot like Marino at the end. This is a nice recovery.
4-0 is always better than 3-0 and never as good as 5-0.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
So the Bears on the moneyline, is that what you're saying?
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
I was waiting for this thread. 
Perfect Tommy
Footballguy
Worst 4-0 team in history. Nope. Not a very good insult. Sounds pretty nice to me. Just shows how great the latest chapter in the legend that is Brett Favre is. He has led this bunch of nobodies to a perfect record.
Mr. Fusion
Footballguy
They will also be the worst team to reach the NFC Championship game. Hell, maybe even the SuperBowl.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I agree. Their talent is questionable. On the other hand their heart, effort, scrappiness, coupled with Favre's incredible talent even in the twilight of his career make them more endearing to me as a fan than would a heartless corporate product of great talent but no heart. I prefer scrappers with heart to corporate drones who cheat. Go Pack
:angrypackersfan:
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
This schtick is Gold, Jerry. Gold!I was waiting for this thread.
bcr8f
Footballguy
"Favre has looked like he did 15 years ago throwing passes into 15" windows"Mike Ditka
Jagerbomber
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
thatguythere
Footballguy
Me too. I live in Packer country and let me tell you, a lot of knowledgeable Packer fans are biting their nails at 4-0. I don't think they even know what to make of it. Ripe for the picking was the actual comment. IMO 54 yds/game rushing is sooner or later going to catch up with them...its a matter of time before some team takes Favre out of his game and I don't think they have the personnel to run the ball. The question is...what defense will it be. They aren't going 16-0 that's for sure. Anybody who has watched Favre long enough knows he is due for one of those games.
Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
Top 5 defense. Best QB in NFL history playing mistake-free football with 3 very talented WRs. Yep they suck.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Longest regular season winning streak in the NFL. Best player in the history of the game. Potentail captain to the Black-Eyd Joes All Name team in Atari Bigby. One of the top 5 or 6 front sevens in the NFL. One of the top corner tandems in the NFL. Youngest team in the NFL.
Yeah they suck!
Yeah they suck!
Capella
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Not a big fan of Justin Harrell?
Perfect Tommy
Footballguy
You say they are the youngest team in the NFL, but they are really younger than that. Favre is playing like he is 25 again, and their oldest player is the long snapper, Rob Davis at 38. Long snapper shouldn't count.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
They're giving up 339 ypg. Just for comparision let's pick a team at random...say Washington...they're only allowing 309 ypg. Sure, the ppg are about identical, but the true measure of defense is yards allowed.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I would tend to say PPG is what matters most. What wins football games? A team that give up 600 yards and allows 3 points or a team that gives up 200 yards and 20 points?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Really, I thought it was wins. But that's cool.
twitch
Footballguy
I imagine we'll see a similar thread at the end of the year inserting an updated record of something like 13-3. Just like the Ravens of last year. There are a ton of injuries around the league, and there just arent enough good, healthy teams out there to beat these guys more than 3 times. And if I were a Pack fan, I couldnt care less what people would say about my 13 win team. And if they happen to stumble into an ugly Superbowl like Chicago did last year, theyll have a slightly better QB than Rex Grossman at the helm. Imagine Favre on last year's Bears team. Coulda turned out a little different. Good year to be a Pack fan. Enjoy it, fellas.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
When teams offenses are taken off the field because they scored yet another short T.D. due to the 'Skins having turned the ball over in their own territory that doesn't really reflect good defense. The goal line is not the 12th defender. When it stops drives that is a bad thing.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Why?I prefer my team gives up yards than points.Why does it matter if a team can move the ball here and there, but cannot score?Do yards win games? NoA team trying to come back from being down may put up yards, but fizzle out.In addition, the lack of a running game will be part of what hurts them in yards against, and could kill their season. They cannot just run out the clock and grind out the wins like other teams. Giving other teams the ball back, and relying on their defense.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I remember Ara Parsegian being asked about his teams lack of first downs in a game they had dominated getting multiple quick scoring drives. They opposing team had over twenty first downs and Notre Dame had only a handful, Parsegian commented that had he known first downs were so important he might have asked his guys to not socre so quickly.
The essentail metric is points.
The essentail metric is points.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
He still thinks Warren Sapp was the greatest player in history not to mention a superb human being.Not a big fan of Justin Harrell?
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Learn something new every day!
twitch
Footballguy
Oakland's '06 D is the perfect example of why that's not true. They had one of the worst offenses in league history. As a result, they didnt score any points. Teams werent pressed to throw against them (or really score against them for that matter), thus their D had a league-low pass attempts against at 25.6/game. Conversely, their D had a league high 33.9 rushing attempts/game against them. Low yardage/touch for rush vs the pass. It all added up to a deceivingly 'good' Oakland D on paper according to the yardage charts. But of course we all knew better. Its really tough to define the 'true' measure of a D when much of their success depends on how good the O is.
And speaking of stupid, implying that Favre is a poor QB to have at the helm in an important game is a great example of a failed cognitive task.
But hey, what is fish food for?
Worst 4-0 team this season? Probably. They are little better than the Lions at 3-1 IMHO. Part has been luck and part matchups against teams who played really poorly (e.g. Iggles).
Worst 4-0 in history? Certainly not.
Better than Da Bears? Absolutely!
Seeing Favre make detractors for the past two years (who blamed him instead of the situation) eat crow?
PRICELESS!!!!
But hey, what is fish food for?
Worst 4-0 team this season? Probably. They are little better than the Lions at 3-1 IMHO. Part has been luck and part matchups against teams who played really poorly (e.g. Iggles).
Worst 4-0 in history? Certainly not.
Better than Da Bears? Absolutely!
Seeing Favre make detractors for the past two years (who blamed him instead of the situation) eat crow?
PRICELESS!!!!
redman
Footballguy
And yet you never fail to bite.
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
And yet you always seem to show up trolling in Packer threads.And yet you never fail to bite.
