unnecessary but not overrated. it is of the human spirit to be consumed by something and parenthood is the most consumptive experience in creation. when we are not gods, we are bugs and raising children is perfect for those without the talent to be gods. one can be a god and a great parent, one can be a doting parent and a cockaroachI see the struggles my friends are going through and it feels like a hard pass to me.
I’ll hang up and listen. (I don’t have any)
I’ve also heard the “who is going to take care of you” argument.I'll let you know when I see what kind of nursing home he puts me in.
Sounds like kids are not for you then. That's awesome that your life has meaning! Everyone deserves to be happy!I’ve heard the “it gave my life meaning” before and that doesn’t fully register with me as I feel like my life has meaning now.![]()
It just feels odd to be perfectly content without kids when the vast majority of the rest of the world decides they want/need them. It feels like I was born without something that everybody else has.Sounds like kids are not for you then. That's awesome that your life has meaning! Everyone deserves to be happy!
I don't think its odd at all.It just feels odd to be perfectly content without kids when the vast majority of the rest of the world decides they want/need them. It feels like I was born without something that everybody else has.
I'd say that about 25% of my friends and family, ages 30 and up, don't have children. Its not that uncommonIt just feels odd to be perfectly content without kids when the vast majority of the rest of the world decides they want/need them. It feels like I was born without something that everybody else has.
Mine are younger (three between the ages of 3 and 6) so the rewards are different, but I agree 100%.I certainly don't judge anybody for not wanting kids. It really is up to the individual. But having my son was the single best thing I ever did in my life. He gives my life meaning. My life pretty much revolves around him and I dread the day when he is out of the house. His hobbies became my hobbies. Watching him play baseball is more entertaining than watching the Yankees. Id rather spend the day hanging out with him indoors doing nothing than travelling, clubbing, or whatever people without kids do these days. Call me lame or whatever, its just the honest truth.
I am the only one of my friends that doesn't have them. They all say the same thing "They LOVE their kids, but if they could go back in time...."I see the struggles my friends are going through and it feels like a hard pass to me.
I’ll hang up and listen. (I don’t have any)
Yeah, pretty much this.We don't have kids but I don't think overrated is a good description. It's just not for everyone. Very glad we never did.
No kids here but I know most of my friends with kids seem to be in perpetual hell.I see the struggles my friends are going through and it feels like a hard pass to me.
I’ll hang up and listen. (I don’t have any)
Freedom.It just feels odd to be perfectly content without kids when the vast majority of the rest of the world decides they want/need them. It feels like I was born without something that everybody else has.
Right, the cost to raise a kid is estimated at about $250k. There is the money to pay for my late life care. Also, since I don't have kids and party more, I likely won't live as long.I’ve also heard the “who is going to take care of you” argument.
This Also doesn’t register with me, I have plenty of money to pay somebody to take care of myself. (Obligatory, look at me I can pay to take care of myself!)
Amen. Only way I would have a kid is if I could afford a nanny. I would not want some little person expecting me to wait on them 24/7.and i don't know who came up with the idea that parenthood was about pleasing children but the concept has done more harm to this world than Osama.
Kinda missing the point here. Children who live to please - as they are designed to want to do - and not be pleased have the best chance to be productive adultsAmen. Only way I would have a kid is if I could afford a nanny. I would not want some little person expecting me to wait on them 24/7.
Maybe I did. If I wait on my kids 24/7 then they will expect all of life to be at their service. I don't want spoiled kids.Kinda missing the point here. Children who live to please - as they are designed to want to do - and not be pleased have the best chance to be productive adults
You think hiring an employee whose job is to wait on them would make things better in that regard?Maybe I did. If I wait on my kids 24/7 then they will expect all of life to be at their service. I don't want spoiled kids.
Excellent statementI think that, in the moment, having kids can easily feel like a mistake or just too overwhelming, but once you've gone through it, you wish you had it to go through all over again.
So to keep them from becoming spoiled, you'd hire a nanny to raise them?Maybe I did. If I wait on my kids 24/7 then they will expect all of life to be at their service. I don't want spoiled kids.
Couldn't you say that about most major medical issues?I don't think people with kids can put into words what it feels like to have kids. You'll never understand it until you have them.
The nanny's job isn't to wait on them. The nanny's job is to carry out my instructions and put someone other than the parents on the frontline for all the stupid BS kids try to pull.You think hiring an employee whose job is to wait on them would make things better in that regard?
I didnt want spoiled kids either. But it happensMaybe I did. If I wait on my kids 24/7 then they will expect all of life to be at their service. I don't want spoiled kids.
Yeah, a trained professional who isn't impacted by the biological connection to the child and prone to giving in to their worst demands. So when a kid throws an insane tantrum because they want some insane kid thing, the nanny can handle it. If they want to spend time with their parents, they can get their act together and act in a civilized manner. I don't want them rewarded for throwing tantrums.So to keep them from becoming spoiled, you'd hire a nanny to raise them?![]()
LOL, I know. I see from family how hard it is. The first thing I would have to do is move far away from my MIL. She has spoiled my nephew/nieces so bad it is digusting. I love them but they are total #######s and they are only 10/9.I didnt want spoiled kids either. But it happens
Good nanny's are third parent's; not servants.You think hiring an employee whose job is to wait on them would make things better in that regard?
Well, you could do that as well. So I don't see how the nanny/no nanny decision is a determiner of whether your children are spoiled.The nanny's job isn't to wait on them. The nanny's job is to carry out my instructions and put someone other than the parents on the frontline for all the stupid BS kids try to pull.
I'm not sure what you're looking for people to tell you. No one that has kids is going to say it's over-rated and nothing they tell you will make you want to have kids (it seems).I’ve heard the “it gave my life meaning” before and that doesn’t fully register with me as I feel like my life has meaning now.![]()
There's a very gray line, but I think grandparent coddling is a good thing.LOL, I know. I see from family how hard it is. The first thing I would have to do is move far away from my MIL. She has spoiled my nephew/nieces so bad it is digusting. I love them but they are total #######s and they are only 10/9.
Yeah, I think you may have this backwards. You have far more incentive not to give in to tantrums than a nanny does. Your nanny won't have to experience the long term consequences of spoiled children.Yeah, a trained professional who isn't impacted by the biological connection to the child and prone to giving in to their worst demands. So when a kid throws an insane tantrum because they want some insane kid thing, the nanny can handle it. If they want to spend time with their parents, they can get their act together and act in a civilized manner. I don't want them rewarded for throwing tantrums.