Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Is Julio Jones a top 5 fantasy WR next year? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter ponchsox
- Start date
Mario Kart
Footballguy
If you can draft him anywhere after 1.04, then you get a steal.
ponchsox
Footballguy
I'm thinking he flip flops where Roddy was drafted this year. Jones the deep threat, White the possession guy. Jones is turning into a stud regardless.
Maybe I am off, but I am thinking in the WR 10-12 range? He's had a nice day...DAY.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I think he's a WR1 next year. I think Roddy is also.
I think the situation is very similar to Dez/Austin.
I think the situation is very similar to Dez/Austin.
scott72
Footballguy
I dunno. Right now teams are game planning for White, but obviously they can't do that. When coverage moves Jones' way, then White will see more balls. They're both studs and worthy of high picks.
SlevinKelevra
Footballguy
Top 1
Mario Kart
Footballguy
The following list is my top 5 next year:Calvin JohnsonTorrey SmithGreg JenningsAJ GreenWes WelkerRoddy WhiteJulio JonesBrandon MarshallSteve Smith (car)Each of these WRs will be top 5 next year.
shader
Footballguy
Julio is obviously immensely talented. We've seen that this year. He's had a ten catch day, he's had a day like today where he made an amazing deep ball reception and then showed his speed on a slant pass.
But with the Falcons offense and Roddy White on the other side...I don't think he could be a top 5 guy in any format for re-draft.
In dynasty, I honestly can't think of too many guys I like better than Julio. Calvin, possibly Nicks, Welker in ppr...maybe Andre if I want to win immediately.
Anyway, lets see how the Falcons use him as the season progresses.
But with the Falcons offense and Roddy White on the other side...I don't think he could be a top 5 guy in any format for re-draft.
In dynasty, I honestly can't think of too many guys I like better than Julio. Calvin, possibly Nicks, Welker in ppr...maybe Andre if I want to win immediately.
Anyway, lets see how the Falcons use him as the season progresses.
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
"Julio top 5 everrrr!!"
(After 2 weeks of Julio under 100 yards....)
"Should I drop Julio???"
Shark Pool never ceases to entertain.
(After 2 weeks of Julio under 100 yards....)
"Should I drop Julio???"
Shark Pool never ceases to entertain.
Gopher State
Footballguy
'spider321 said:
That caught my eye too, but 3 months ago, Steve Smith would have been "lucky' to end the year with 700 yards and 3 TDs...I never snicker at projections (WR especially), because there is always one random guy who eases his way into the top 5-7 at their respective position. This year we have Cam Newton, Fred Jackson/Darren Sproles, Steve Smith/Garcon/Green and Fred Davis/Greg Olsen at their respective positions...for all we know, Brandon LaFell will take over for an injured SS in NC and rip it up.Now, I would be curious as to why he thinks Torrey Smith will be Top 5 in 2012...'Mario Kart said:The following list is my top 5 next year:Calvin Johnson'Shawnky said:
Torrey Smith lol
Greg Jennings
AJ Green
Wes Welker
Roddy White
Julio Jones
Brandon Marshall
Steve Smith (car)
Each of these WRs will be top 5 next year.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
^ this and he plays on a run first bland offense with Ryan at QB. Not top 10 IMO maybe top 15'Sweet Love said:
CravenM
Footballguy
I think he'l be in the top 15-20 range until Gonzo retires. The Falcons prefer to pound the ball with Mike Turner et.al. and I don't think the passes are very prevalent inside the 10 yard line (like the Packers).
Once Gonzo retires (all things being equal), he could be 10-15.
Once Gonzo retires (all things being equal), he could be 10-15.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
He's played in 6 games and has three 100 yard efforts and 532 YFS (88.7 per game)... 
That's in WR1 territory.
That's in WR1 territory.
two_dollars
Footballguy
I'd still take Roddy before JJ if my 2012 ppr redraft were tomorrow.
Shutout
Footballguy
Top 18-20 likely but not likely that he will be the consistent focal point, week in and week out. Too many guys that ARE those guys (calvin, Welker, Jennings, Steve Smith, wallace, Maclin, Green, Bowe, Stevie Johnson, Britt, Nicks, Marshall, Fitz, Austin, Bryant, Roddy, Colston). Hard to imagine him consistently jumping a dozen or so of those guys.
Hendo
Footballguy
Colston.. huh? if anything Jimmy Graham is the closest thing to a "focal" point on the Saints in that spread offense.
Dought Man
Footballguy
#11-13 WR range sounds right...right in the Colston range. Maybe it will change, but the Falcons don't take enough deep shots for Julio to have big games often enough. Too many other priorities in Atlanta's offense.. ball control, run game, check downs.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Some of them, may even do it twice.'Mario Kart said:
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Way too early to declare Julio top 5. If I were forced to draft today, maybe somewhere between WR 12-18.
This is very likely to be Gonzos last year, and Turner will be 30 in just a few months. Pretty likely that this offense will rely heavily on Julio and Roddy in 2012.
This is very likely to be Gonzos last year, and Turner will be 30 in just a few months. Pretty likely that this offense will rely heavily on Julio and Roddy in 2012.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Think the question should be whether Ryan is good enough to generate 2 top 10 caliber WRs. From what I've seen he's way too conservative and doesn't attack downfield enough to make this happen.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Gonzo averaged 83 catches/season for the last 3 years and likely will retire after this season. Roddy averaged 93. Pretty easy to see Julio being able to get 75+ catches next year.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
He has had much more than a "nice day".He had a dominant day, and he had 2 dominant days before the injury. week 3 - 6 rec 115 ydsweek 4 - 11 rec 127 ydsNow he comes back from injury and goes for 131 and 2TDs. The kid is a ROOKIE, and a top tier WR1 going forward.Much more than a "nice day", a WR1 stud for many years to come.'Sweet Love said:
chinawildman
Footballguy
Gonzo wasn't even a Falcon 3 years ago... And his 10 YPR is putrid for a WR. Unless Ryan or the coaching philosophy changes I just don't see it. Remember the Falcons WERE SUPPOSED to really open it up this year, and all that revealed is that Ryan is not a top tier QB.
Is it too late to prep his wing in Canton? I think the Mark Ingram suite may be available.Lets calm down and see how he finishes the season. He's still only scored 2 tds this season, both yesterday on enormously long broken plays. Is he a priority red zone threat, cuz thats what makes for a consistent stud WR. So far this season JJ has been targeted TWICE in the red zone. We'll have to see how that improves.'Casting Couch said:
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
As much as I think the op is trying to jump the gun ... . None of his plays that he has made so far this season seem fluky or busted coverage, they simply look like he is going to be elite in this league. I dont understand the people saying the 2012 class is better for WRs, Green and Jones are two of the best prospects to come out in in the past 5 year.
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Dez Bryant
3. AJ Green
4. Julio Jones
I see no reason why Julio couldn't be a top 10 or even a top 5 WR for years to come. All the elite WRs over the past ten years (Calvin-1300 and 12, fitz -1400 and 10, andre- 1100 and 6) Have blown up there second year in the league, so maybe this isn't that crazy after all. I would say it's very likely that one of AJ Green or Julio Jones accomplishes ending in the top ten, actually I dont think its crazy if one of them finishes in the top 5. I Would not however, put my money on just Julio. Elite WRs come in at a level that can dominate from day one, they both have it and have shown it thusfar.There's a reason a seemingly good organization sold the farm for him.
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Dez Bryant
3. AJ Green
4. Julio Jones
I see no reason why Julio couldn't be a top 10 or even a top 5 WR for years to come. All the elite WRs over the past ten years (Calvin-1300 and 12, fitz -1400 and 10, andre- 1100 and 6) Have blown up there second year in the league, so maybe this isn't that crazy after all. I would say it's very likely that one of AJ Green or Julio Jones accomplishes ending in the top ten, actually I dont think its crazy if one of them finishes in the top 5. I Would not however, put my money on just Julio. Elite WRs come in at a level that can dominate from day one, they both have it and have shown it thusfar.There's a reason a seemingly good organization sold the farm for him.
Last edited by a moderator:
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Agreed, I wont draft him top 10, but I would try to nab Him and Green later and expect one of them to be top 10.
Last edited by a moderator:
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
????I guess you are correct, Gonzo was still a Chief three years ago. He joined the Falcons in 2009 and caught 83 passes. Last year he caught 70. Through 8 games this year, he's caught 39, (on pace for 78). Don't you think that just maybe Julio might command some of those targets that Gonzo was getting? Isn't it also possible that Julio can do more with them than Gonzo's 10 YPR? Also, as Julio showed yesterday, Ryan doesn't have to throw the ball 50 yards down the field to make a big play happen. Ryan may not be an elite passer, but I don't really think that's hampered Roddy White's numbers all that much.'chinawildman said:
I'm with the OP on this one. Although I wouldn't draft him as a top 5 wr (dont have to), I think it is very possible he could approach top 5 numbers. In Dynasty I would trade for him if I could aquire him for WR8-12 cost or less.Tony G has been very high on him and had this to say yesterday (source rotoworld)
AJ Green and Julio may very well go down as one of the best if not the best 1/2 WR Draft combo ever.
Last edited by a moderator:
irish eyes
Footballguy
Geez people calm down, those were his 1st two TDs of the year. He had 3 catches all day take it easy annointing him the next jerry rice.
How about you just stay calm and those of us that see the talent (Tony Gonz included) will waive to you as the train passes you by
Shutout
Footballguy
You're kinda splitting hairs and nit picking if you pluck one name out of the 17 or so I listed. The bigger point is that I listed 2 handfuls of players that are the same or more so the focus of their teams and are very good players that will be the primary targets week in and week out. On the other hand, Jones still must contend with roddy white and the falcons even like to run the ball still more than a lot of other teams. So its very likely that the Falcons can play matchups more so than a lot of these other teams. And there are a few players that were not even mentioned that might have much improved situations next year (lloyd, Decker, Wayne/Garcon, AJ Green, Mike williams, Sidney rice, Andre Johnson, desean Jackson, Vincent jackson). So, we could really pick apart a few of the fringe selections but in the end, its going to be really hard to honestly think that the falcons will just ignore Roddy and Turner and all the rest and feed Jones so much that he leap frogs 15 or so of these perennial household top WRS. Even if you take the top 4 out of contention (Calvin, Welker, AJ..who I didn't even mention 1st time, and let's just say Nicks for sake of argument, I just can't say its "likely" that he goes each and every week of a season and consistently outproduces ALL of these others: Jennings, Wallace, Maclin, Steve smith, Bowe, Stevis Johnson, VJAX, DJAX, Miles Austin, Bryant, on and on... Just too many proven VERY GOOD players out there to think he bumps them all (especially when Roddy is on the team too).'Hendo said:
Last edited by a moderator:
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
His ADP next year will be WR12-WR18, just like Dez this year, and I think that is appropriate based on his talent, offense, and surrounding competition for targets. In my non-PPR league, he is WR17 right now in points per game. We'll see where he ends up, but I doubt its top 12 or much worse than where he is right now.
Just like Dez, everybody has seen the talent but neither have been able to stay healthy yet. Dez hasnt lived up to the hype this year (WR20 right now in PPG), but he isnt failing so bad that he's a WR3 either. Julio will have as much upside as any other guy drafted WR12-WR18 next year, but if he's is going higher than that, the value isnt there as much.
Just like Dez, everybody has seen the talent but neither have been able to stay healthy yet. Dez hasnt lived up to the hype this year (WR20 right now in PPG), but he isnt failing so bad that he's a WR3 either. Julio will have as much upside as any other guy drafted WR12-WR18 next year, but if he's is going higher than that, the value isnt there as much.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Truth.'Dr. Octopus said:
chinawildman
Footballguy
I don't think you can just say that because Gonzo isn't there anymore that Ryan will just instead throw to Julio. Ryan has a tendency to check down WAY too early and more often than not, that guy is gonzalez, not the other WR. If his primary read isn't open, he's going to his TE or RB, seldom have I seen him look to the other half of the field after his initial read.I have no doubt that Julio has elite talent, or that he can be a WR1. What I am saying however is that it will take a significant dip from Roddy White's production for that to happen, and that Ryan doesn't have the skill set or coaches behind him to support 2 WR1s in fantasy.
Similar threads
