Is LaDainian Tomlinson washed up? (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

What all deals or even offers you sent out or recieved for Bush since we watched Monday Night football.

His value range is so crazy......

with that being said.

Here is some deals ive seen completed since then:

Tomlinson and T.Owens for S.McCoy and J.Gage (ppr dynasty)

Tomlinson and R.Jennings for M.Bush and D.Mason (non ppr dynasty)

 

[Addai's Adidas]

That was a quick hijack Rooster.

 

[karmarooster]

fine i'll delete... thought it was relevent

 

[Steel Dillo]

No deal done yet, but I proposed 3 trades last night & I hope some one bites.

LT for K. Smith

LT for Grant

LT for R.Rice

 

[mulliganman]

I have offered LT for Steven Jackson as that is what a staffer said they might offer. I have gotten no response yet.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I have offered LT for Steven Jackson as that is what a staffer said they might offer. I have gotten no response yet.

Not goin' to happen, not now.

 

[karmarooster]

I have offered LT for Steven Jackson as that is what a staffer said they might offer. I have gotten no response yet.

I wouldn't give up Sjax for LT for two reasons. 1. Age 2. Handcuff. LT is older and there is no player the caliber of Sproles on the Rams. You might want to set your sights lower.

 

[rascal]

I offered LT and D Mason for Jacobs and H Ward (I own Bradshaw).

 

[Jason Wood]

I traded LeSean McCoy and Justin Gage and got back LT and Terrell Owens in a dynasty league littered with Shark Poolers. Obviously I'm going for the "win now" while the other guy is banking on infusing his roster with a talented young runner and a serviceable WR.

 

[Oh Yes!]

offering marshawn lynch and fred jackson

 

[DILIUTA]

I'll be trading for LT soon

 

[imagroid]

Wow some of these deals are really low-ball for LT. I just shipped Benson for Sproles to make me feel a little better about things, but I couldn't imagine giving him away for guys like Grant or Rice right now.

 

[mulliganman]

I have offered LT for Steven Jackson as that is what a staffer said they might offer. I have gotten no response yet.

I wouldn't give up Sjax for LT for two reasons. 1. Age 2. Handcuff. LT is older and there is no player the caliber of Sproles on the Rams. You might want to set your sights lower.

I guess it's a good thing you are not in my league then. The point of my post was simply passing along info on what a staffer said they might try. Otherwise, you could fall into all the overreacting that is taking place from the results of the first week.

 

[rascal]

So people going after LT what are you prepared to offer?

For those with LT what are you prepared to accept?

I have LT and trying to determine his trade value.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Wow some of these deals are really low-ball for LT. I just shipped Benson for Sproles to make me feel a little better about things, but I couldn't imagine giving him away for guys like Grant or Rice right now.

I would trade LT2 for Rice in a New York second, especially in a dynasty league.

 

[Steel Dillo]

No deal done yet, but I proposed 3 trades last night & I hope some one bites.LT for K. SmithLT for GrantLT for R.Rice

Update...Was able to get Kevin Smith for LT straight up. I may be over reacting, but the piece of mind that my starting RB won't be splitting carries was worth it IMO.

 

[imagroid]

Wow some of these deals are really low-ball for LT. I just shipped Benson for Sproles to make me feel a little better about things, but I couldn't imagine giving him away for guys like Grant or Rice right now.

I would trade LT2 for Rice in a New York second, especially in a dynasty league.

I missed the part about it being a dynasty. Obviously, that makes much more sense.

 

[TheFanatic]

On that same note, what about Sproles? Those that are targeting LT are you trying for Sproles as well. And those that are trading LT away, are you keeping Sproles or sending him too?

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

No deal done yet, but I proposed 3 trades last night & I hope some one bites.LT for K. SmithLT for GrantLT for R.Rice

Update...Was able to get Kevin Smith for LT straight up. I may be over reacting, but the piece of mind that my starting RB won't be splitting carries was worth it IMO.

I don't claim to be any kind of an expert in either FF or certainly not the "RB at 30" curse, but this seems like quite an overreaction. Do you mind if I ask where you took LT to begin with? And do you have Sproles?

 

[Buffaloes]

He just went for DeAngelo Williams straight up in a league I'm in.

 

[Steel Dillo]

On that same note, what about Sproles? Those that are targeting LT are you trying for Sproles as well. And those that are trading LT away, are you keeping Sproles or sending him too?

I enquired about Sproles, but the owner wanted Colston in return. I imagine that most Sproles owners are asking a for more than he's worth right now.

 

[Steel Dillo]

No deal done yet, but I proposed 3 trades last night & I hope some one bites.LT for K. SmithLT for GrantLT for R.Rice

Update...Was able to get Kevin Smith for LT straight up. I may be over reacting, but the piece of mind that my starting RB won't be splitting carries was worth it IMO.

I don't claim to be any kind of an expert in either FF or certainly not the "RB at 30" curse, but this seems like quite an overreaction. Do you mind if I ask where you took LT to begin with? And do you have Sproles?

Took LT at 1.10 & Smith was taken @ 3.09 in a 12 team league. Did not have Sproles.I'm very aware that I gave up on my 1st round pick early, but I didn't like the pick when I made it. I was a mistake of drafting off the cheatsheet but having no conviction behind the move. The other side of the coin is what if LT continues to be brittle and splits more carries with Sproles. If thats the case then I was much better off making the trade now than later when LTs value drops even more.

 

[sho nuff]

He just went for DeAngelo Williams straight up in a league I'm in.

Wow.If I could get Dwill for him and Id even add in someone Id be ecstatic.Ive thought about offering LT and S. Holmes (my 3rd WR and we only play 2)...the guy has Braylon and Anthony Gonzolez as his #2 WR.

 

[EdwardCat]

He just went for DeAngelo Williams straight up in a league I'm in.

Considering how much Williams' value dropped after the first game (justifiably), this is about an even deal. Williams is splitting 50/50. LT, when healthy, sees a bulk of the carries in the game. LT is still more valuable than Williams. Not sure what Fox is thinking here.

 

[cvnpoka]

keeper league i offered donald brown and percy harving for ldt. dbrown costs a 4th round pick, harvin an 8th.

 

[theplayer11]

dumped LT for Jennings

 

[Texican]

He just went for DeAngelo Williams straight up in a league I'm in.

Considering how much Williams' value dropped after the first game (justifiably), this is about an even deal. Williams is splitting 50/50. LT, when healthy, sees a bulk of the carries in the game. LT is still more valuable than Williams. Not sure what Fox is thinking here.

 

[humphrp]

I know that this post is asking about deals that occured after the MNF game, but FYI, here is a draft night trade that I did the week before. In a keep 8 league, I decided to go young with my team and get some return out of LT. I traded him for the 1.07 pick this year and a 1.?? pick next year. I drafted McCoy with the 1.07 pick. I am happy with the trade especially seeing how he performed in week 1. Having been an LT owner I was spoiled during his good years, but the last 2 years I have been frustrated with his performance in the playoffs (Weeks 15, and 16). I have not been able to count on him. Seeing his week 1 performance I am glad I traded him, but if it keeps him fresh for the fantasy playoffs I would rather have him fresh.

That being said I may go back after LT with a buy low offer, maybe trade back his next years 1.?? pick. That would net me McCoy. Sounds great to me.

 

[Loopdog]

I think people are over reacting HARDCORE. He didn't look GREAT on Monday but he averaged close to 5 yards a pop if I remember correctly, and Sproles didn't look great running the ball either. I think its more their line than it's LT right now. I'd love to pick him up dirt cheap in some leagues, maybe i'll start poking around and see if I can.

 

[Bayhawks]

Considering how much Williams' value dropped after the first game (justifiably), this is about an even deal. Williams is splitting 50/50. LT, when healthy, sees a bulk of the carries in the game. LT is still more valuable than Williams. Not sure what Fox is thinking here.

IMO, this isn't even close to being accurate.Carolina was getting BLOWN OUT. Under these circumstances, it is not at all unusual to get your backups some game-time experience, and since Stewart had missed all of pre-season, he has had NO GAME EXPERIENCE this year.

Under normal situations, Williams will probably get approximately 60% of the carries in Carolina. Even with the blow out, Williams got 56% of the carries between he and Stewart.

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

So you are saying that trading the lead RB in a RBBC who is over 30 (and appears to have lost some of his talent/ability), and is hurt for the lead RB in a RBBC who is 26, had his best season last year, and is not hurt is an even deal?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

He just went for DeAngelo Williams straight up in a league I'm in.

Wow.If I could get Dwill for him and Id even add in someone Id be ecstatic.

I offered Tomlinson and Bryant for DeAngelo today, not expecting it to be accepted. Gotta take a shot or else I fear I'll be offering Tomlinson straight up for a WR2 in a few weeks.edit: rejected

 

[GROMS]

8 team dynasty league that has 45 man rosters, ppr and uses IDP. I already owned Sproles. I gave J. Durant & A Winfield and got back LT.

Seemed pretty good to me at the time , then I lost Mayo & Pos to injury. I wish I had Durant back now but overall I'm still ok with the trade

 

[Gbagzz]

Unless LT was your first round pick you should be able to survive w/o him.

Besides, who trades this low. If anything hope he has a good game then trade him. Otherwise, you're better off riding it out and hoping he strings together some quality starts.

Or...

we can all just be over reacting and LT will be fine. he looked good to me. Hopegully, the ankle doesn't linger and the rest helps. I think if anything he s just rusty.

 

[qimqam]

On that same note, what about Sproles? Those that are targeting LT are you trying for Sproles as well. And those that are trading LT away, are you keeping Sproles or sending him too?

I enquired about Sproles, but the owner wanted Colston in return. I imagine that most Sproles owners are asking a for more than he's worth right now.

LT is hurt and Sproles looks like he is going to get the starts if he is out ... I'd say he is worth quite a bit.I'm in a 1pt per 30 return yards league .... Don't no if I would take LT straight up for Sproles at this moment.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

 

[H.K.]

Considering how much Williams' value dropped after the first game (justifiably), this is about an even deal. Williams is splitting 50/50. LT, when healthy, sees a bulk of the carries in the game. LT is still more valuable than Williams. Not sure what Fox is thinking here.

IMO, this isn't even close to being accurate.Carolina was getting BLOWN OUT. Under these circumstances, it is not at all unusual to get your backups some game-time experience, and since Stewart had missed all of pre-season, he has had NO GAME EXPERIENCE this year.

Under normal situations, Williams will probably get approximately 60% of the carries in Carolina. Even with the blow out, Williams got 56% of the carries between he and Stewart.

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

So you are saying that trading the lead RB in a RBBC who is over 30 (and appears to have lost some of his talent/ability), and is hurt for the lead RB in a RBBC who is 26, had his best season last year, and is not hurt is an even deal?

The split between Williams and Stewart occurred on the first drive when CAR went up 7-0. They split most of the day. Check the play by play log if you didn't watch the game.

 

[qimqam]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

Tomlinson limped through the entire season last year and has started this year the same way. That's a huge cause for concern for a 30plus high mileage RB

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

LT is hurt and Sproles looks like he is going to get the starts if he is out ... I'd say he is worth quite a bit.

I think Michael Bennett would get the start. (link1, link2, link3, link4.)Sproles plays a huge role on special teams. The Chargers don't want to make him the featured back in addition to that.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

That's not true. Hell, Sproles was getting his long before LT's injury and will continue to do so going forward IMO.

 

[Darko M]

LT is toast. The writing has been on the way for well over a year.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

That's not true. Hell, Sproles was getting his long before LT's injury and will continue to do so going forward IMO.

In the Monday night game, the only touch Sproles had before LT's injury was on a kickoff return. He didn't touch the ball on offense until after LT's injury.(LT hurt his ankle on the play where he fumbled. Check the gamebook to see when Sproles got his first offensive touch.)

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Wow some of these deals are really low-ball for LT. I just shipped Benson for Sproles to make me feel a little better about things, but I couldn't imagine giving him away for guys like Grant or Rice right now.

I would trade LT2 for Rice in a New York second, especially in a dynasty league.

I missed the part about it being a dynasty. Obviously, that makes much more sense.

I would be tempted to do it in a redraft league as well.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

That's not true. Hell, Sproles was getting his long before LT's injury and will continue to do so going forward IMO.

In the Monday night game, the only touch Sproles had before LT's injury was on a kickoff return. He didn't touch the ball on offense until after LT's injury.

I didn't know LT got hurt that early in the game. Either way, I'm pretty sure Sproles would have played a lot even if LT hadn't got hurt. I"m not convinced that most of his injury isn't more of a hurt ego than anything else.

 

[sho nuff]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

Tomlinson limped through the entire season last year and has started this year the same way. That's a huge cause for concern for a 30plus high mileage RB

And still was the #8 scoring RB in my league (pretty standard scoring).That was bad last year when I drafted him #1.

 

[sho nuff]

What's more, LT only got 59% of the carries in his game. Sproles was impacting his numbers as much (even more, when you add in receptions) as Stewart was impacting Williams'. Furthermore, LT was "limping badly" after the game.

In the second sentence, I would not say "Furthermore." I would say "That's because."Tomlinson had 100% of the RB touches up to the time of his injury.

That's not true. Hell, Sproles was getting his long before LT's injury and will continue to do so going forward IMO.

In the Monday night game, the only touch Sproles had before LT's injury was on a kickoff return. He didn't touch the ball on offense until after LT's injury.

I didn't know LT got hurt that early in the game. Either way, I'm pretty sure Sproles would have played a lot even if LT hadn't got hurt. I"m not convinced that most of his injury isn't more of a hurt ego than anything else.

Seems like your mind is made up not based on the actual play of the game but more on your opinion of LT.

 

[sho nuff]

LT is toast. The writing has been on the way for well over a year.

Well over a year?How so?2007 he was the #1 RB...

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I traded LeSean McCoy and Justin Gage and got back LT and Terrell Owens in a dynasty league littered with Shark Poolers. Obviously I'm going for the "win now" while the other guy is banking on infusing his roster with a talented young runner and a serviceable WR.

Just plain ole robbery....did you atleast buy him a beer afterwards?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I just offered DeAngelo for Tomlinson in one league, and Portis for Tomlinson in two others.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I just don't see how some one trusted LT enough to make him an early draft pick and then decides after one game where he rolled his ankle but perfromed adequately when on the field that it's time to trade him.

I don't own him in any leagues but if I had enough faith to draft him in the first place I'd ride it out a bit.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'd wait until next week to trade for him. His stock should be lower then.