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Is Marques Colston the top reciever in the league? (1 Viewer)

Who would you rather have as your WR1?

  • Andre Johnson

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  • Marques Colston

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  • Larry Fitzgerald

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  • Reggie Wayne

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  • Randy Moss

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  • Vincent Jackson

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  • Ocho Stinko

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  • Calvin Johnson

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billjohnson

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Reggie Wayne > Andre Johnson> Marques Colston > Larry Fitzgerald > Vincent Jackson > Randy Moss > Calvin Johnson > Ocho Stinko

What say you??

Bill

 
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I would take Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson as my 1a and 1b, but Colston is in the mix for best ones after that. He is terrific.

 
But for 12 inches and 2 reviews, colston would be the #2 receiver in our league behind wayne. And i'd prefer him over wayne going forward.

 
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As the proud 4th year owner of Colston in my dynasty league, I homer-picked Colston.

BTW - How, exactly, was Calvin Johnson left off this list?

 
The lack of love for Moss is crazy, but that being said if I am drafting my fantasy league today I am still taking Andre Johnson as the first WR off the board.

 
Fitz, AJ, Moss, CJ all above Colston.. no question. He'll never come close to these WR athletically.
if this was redraft I would take colston every day of the week over CJ. Athletic ability or no Calvin has a boat anchor of a team while Colst is a key cog in the best offense in the NFL
 
As the proud 4th year owner of Colston in my dynasty league, I homer-picked Colston.

BTW - How, exactly, was Calvin Johnson left off this list?
Spider,Let me just list a few guys AHEAD of him at this point in my league:

Tory Holt

Terrell Owens

Jacoby Jones

Nate Washington

Mark Clayton

Pierre Garcon

Bernard Berrian

Johnny Knox

Lee Evans

Steve Breaston

Mike Wallace

Hakeem Nicks

Austin Collie

Need I go on. The only list Calvin Johnson belongs on is a "biggest bust of 2009-2010"!!

Bill

 
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As the proud 4th year owner of Colston in my dynasty league, I homer-picked Colston.

BTW - How, exactly, was Calvin Johnson left off this list?
Spider,Let me just list a few guys AHEAD of him at this point in my league:

Tory Holt

Terrell Owens

Jacoby Jones

Nate Washington

Mark Clayton

Pierre Garcon

Bernard Berrian

Johnny Knox

Lee Evans

Steve Breaston

Mike Wallace

Hakeem Nicks

Austin Collie

Need I go on. The only list Calvin Johnson belongs on is a "biggest bust of 2009-2010"!!

Bill
Way to lack perspective.
 
As the proud 4th year owner of Colston in my dynasty league, I homer-picked Colston.

BTW - How, exactly, was Calvin Johnson left off this list?
Spider,Let me just list a few guys AHEAD of him at this point in my league:

Tory Holt

Terrell Owens

Jacoby Jones

Nate Washington

Mark Clayton

Pierre Garcon

Bernard Berrian

Johnny Knox

Lee Evans

Steve Breaston

Mike Wallace

Hakeem Nicks

Austin Collie

Need I go on. The only list Calvin Johnson belongs on is a "biggest bust of 2009-2010"!!

Bill
Way to lack perspective.
So you would vote for CJ if he were on this list? C'mon man....!!! Guess in dynasty he could take Ocho's place...but in redraft (for this year) he doesn't belong. You disagree??
 
I guess I don't look at football players in respect to only one season since I choose not to play in redraft leagues anymore.

In a dynasty, I would take Megatron over everyone on this list.

He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.

 
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I guess I don't look at football players in respect to just this season since I don't play in redraft leagues anymore.In a dynasty, I would take Magatron over everyone on this list.He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.
Megatron helped me win my league title last year, so I do have love for him. But I will respectfully disagree with him being the number one choice here..not even close in my opinion. Detroit will still be bad in 3,4,5 years...and Megatron has been more injury prone than some of the other guys on the list. I think Fitz in a little overrated...but to me...a guy like AJ would be an easy choice over Calvin Johnson.
 
I guess I don't look at football players in respect to just this season since I don't play in redraft leagues anymore.In a dynasty, I would take Magatron over everyone on this list.He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.
Megatron helped me win my league title last year, so I do have love for him. But I will respectfully disagree with him being the number one choice here..not even close in my opinion. Detroit will still be bad in 3,4,5 years...and Megatron has been more injury prone than some of the other guys on the list. I think Fitz in a little overrated...but to me...a guy like AJ would be an easy choice over Calvin Johnson.
AJ has never had back to back 1000 yard seasons.. :shrug:
 
The poll question was Who would you rather have as your WR1?

Back in August - when Jackson and 85 were being taken as a WR2, and Colston was a low end WR1 - the answer was Fitz or AJ.

Now its Wayne (5th or 6th WR off the board in most redrafts).

I'd still take Moss over Colston. I didn't expect VJ to score well, but I'm chuckling over the lack of respect for Randy.

In a dynasty, I would take Megatron over everyone on the list.

 
I guess I don't look at football players in respect to just this season since I don't play in redraft leagues anymore.In a dynasty, I would take Magatron over everyone on this list.He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.
Megatron helped me win my league title last year, so I do have love for him. But I will respectfully disagree with him being the number one choice here..not even close in my opinion. Detroit will still be bad in 3,4,5 years...and Megatron has been more injury prone than some of the other guys on the list. I think Fitz in a little overrated...but to me...a guy like AJ would be an easy choice over Calvin Johnson.
AJ has never had back to back 1000 yard seasons.. :shrug:
That stat will be history after this year. 1500+ last year....700 already this year.
 
OK....I've learned my lesson and added Calvin Johnson to the list. Still think he's significantly overrated but see that some disagree. He can now be selected....

Bill

 
Wow, a healthy Moss with 3 votes, 2 years after breaking the single season TD record.

What have you done for me lately I guess....

 
I guess I don't look at football players in respect to just this season since I don't play in redraft leagues anymore.In a dynasty, I would take Magatron over everyone on this list.He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.
Megatron helped me win my league title last year, so I do have love for him. But I will respectfully disagree with him being the number one choice here..not even close in my opinion. Detroit will still be bad in 3,4,5 years...and Megatron has been more injury prone than some of the other guys on the list. I think Fitz in a little overrated...but to me...a guy like AJ would be an easy choice over Calvin Johnson.
Fitz is most certainly not overrated. He has 3 career 1400 yard seasons with 10+ TDs. Andre Johnson has only topped 1150 yards once, and he's never topped 10 TDs. Larry Fitzgerald's THIRD BEST season (100/1409/10) is almost as good as Andre Johnson's best season (115/1575/8). Also, Andre's awesome and he's one of the few WRs in the league possessing of a "Beast Mode", but the only guys in the league today who have dominated quality competition as thoroughly as Fitzgerald did last postseason are Steve Smith South and Randy Moss. Fitzgerald *AVERAGED* 7.5/137/1.75 in the playoffs last season (would pro-rate to 120/2184/28 over a full season). Fitzgerald clearly demonstrated why he's the best WR in the entire NFL.Oh, by the way... he's only 26 years old. Which is insane. The kid had three 1400 yard seasons before his 26th birthday.
 
I guess I don't look at football players in respect to just this season since I don't play in redraft leagues anymore.In a dynasty, I would take Magatron over everyone on this list.He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.
Megatron helped me win my league title last year, so I do have love for him. But I will respectfully disagree with him being the number one choice here..not even close in my opinion. Detroit will still be bad in 3,4,5 years...and Megatron has been more injury prone than some of the other guys on the list. I think Fitz in a little overrated...but to me...a guy like AJ would be an easy choice over Calvin Johnson.
Fitz is most certainly not overrated. He has 3 career 1400 yard seasons with 10+ TDs. Andre Johnson has only topped 1150 yards once, and he's never topped 10 TDs. Larry Fitzgerald's THIRD BEST season (100/1409/10) is almost as good as Andre Johnson's best season (115/1575/8). Also, Andre's awesome and he's one of the few WRs in the league possessing of a "Beast Mode", but the only guys in the league today who have dominated quality competition as thoroughly as Fitzgerald did last postseason are Steve Smith South and Randy Moss. Fitzgerald *AVERAGED* 7.5/137/1.75 in the playoffs last season (would pro-rate to 120/2184/28 over a full season). Fitzgerald clearly demonstrated why he's the best WR in the entire NFL.Oh, by the way... he's only 26 years old. Which is insane. The kid had three 1400 yard seasons before his 26th birthday.
Spoken like a Fitz dynasty owner. Not that I don't think Fitz is a stud...but behind most of these guys in fantasy points this year..and gonna lose his Warner any year now.
 
we're voting on the present or the future, right? not on the past?

to answer the original question, no colston is not the top WR in the league. he's a very good one. and i'm glad i have him on my team, but i couldn't trade him fast enough if i was offered fitzgerald or aj.

as for the fitz vs. aj argument:

warner >>>>> schaub the last 3 years so fitz was going to have better numbers.

this year and the future;

schaub >> warner and it could be a lot more pronounced next year and the year after warner probably won't be around.

 
Spoken like a Fitz dynasty owner. Not that I don't think Fitz is a stud...but behind most of these guys in fantasy points this year..and gonna lose his Warner any year now.
Do you think I'm high on Fitzgerald because I own him, or do you think I own him because I'm high on him? I didn't draft Fitz- I traded Antonio Gates, Javon Walker, and a rookie 1st rounder to get him back when Walker was still with Denver. That's a king's ransom, and I considered it a bargain for a 25 year old who already had a pair of 1400 yard seasons. And now he's a 26 year old with a trio of 1400 yard seasons. That's more than Randy Moss had at his age. That's more than Jerry Rice had at his age.Talent trumps all, and since people have short memories, after the playoffs last year the question wasn't whether Fitzgerald was the best WR in the NFL (it was widely accepted that he was), it was whether he was the best PLAYER in the NFL. I'm not going to bury him just because he's ONLY on pace for 1150/11 so far this season.Even if Warner goes down... so what? Warner only played 10 games in 2004, and Fitz still had 1400+/10+. Warner only played 11 games in 2007 and Fitz still had 1400+/10+. In '04, he averaged 5.8 grabs for 86.3 yards and .83 TDs in games started by Josh Freaking McCown- that's 93/1380/13 over a full season. With Josh McCown. He was on pace for 109/1433/3 receiving in 2007 in games started by Matt Leinart (I think it's safe to say that the TD number there is a fluke). With Boldin, without Boldin, with Warner, without Warner- all Fitz has done his entire career is produce at an elite level, regardless of any surrounding circumstances. Which is what real studs do.Like I said, he's only 26, and he's already the second most proven WR in the entire NFL. Larry Fitzgerald (age 26) and Randy Moss (age 32) are the only receivers in the league with more than 2 1400+ yard seasons. Larry Fitzgerald (age 26), Randy Moss (age 32), Hines Ward (age 33), and Terrell Owens (age 35) are the only guys in the league with more than two 10+ TD seasons. Reggie Wayne can't claim that. Steve Smith can't claim that. Torry Holt can't claim that. Ochocinco can't claim that. Donald Driver, Derrick Mason, Brandon Marshall, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Andre Johnson... none of them can make that claim. Fitzgerald already has more 200 fantasy point campaigns in his career (3) than either Torry Holt (2) or Isaac Bruce (2). He has as many 200 fantasy point campaigns as Reggie Wayne (1), Andre Johnson (1), and Chad Ochocinco (1) COMBINED. If anything, Larry Fitzgerald isn't overrated, he's UNDERRATED. Basically, the only WRs in the last 20-30 years who have been this good and this proven this young have been Randy Moss and Jerry Rice.There are no circumstances under which I would bet against Fitzgerald. If you asked me "who is going to be the top receiver over the next _________", no matter what the blank is, I'm betting on Fitzgerald. He's the best receiver in the NFL.
 
COLSTON IS A BEAST!!!

What makes any reciever better then Colston? I can tell people listen to what ANYLYSTS say!

I took Colston with my 2nd pick in a 10 team redraft...people laughed....(I laughed everytime he caught one of his league high 6 tds (tied))

I'll let Colston put up yet ANOTHER GREAT YEAR, and let him make the argument for me!

Best WR in the league BAR NONE...

 
:goodposting: I thought the question was for NFL purposes. Either way, chose AJ.

But this poll should have allowed for multiple choices.

 
It is all about situations. Calvin Johnson on the Saints would be unstoppable. Colston on the Lions would be just average.

 
seems some people are speaking regarding Fantasy numbers.... others discussing real-life ability.

Fantasy wise I can't argue that hard against Colston... BUT

If we are discussing reality and talent Colston is well behind most the WRs in the Poll

 
I guess I don't look at football players in respect to just this season since I don't play in redraft leagues anymore.In a dynasty, I would take Magatron over everyone on this list.He and Stafford should become a TD factory in the near future.
Megatron helped me win my league title last year, so I do have love for him. But I will respectfully disagree with him being the number one choice here..not even close in my opinion. Detroit will still be bad in 3,4,5 years...and Megatron has been more injury prone than some of the other guys on the list. I think Fitz in a little overrated...but to me...a guy like AJ would be an easy choice over Calvin Johnson.
Fitz is most certainly not overrated. He has 3 career 1400 yard seasons with 10+ TDs. Andre Johnson has only topped 1150 yards once, and he's never topped 10 TDs. Larry Fitzgerald's THIRD BEST season (100/1409/10) is almost as good as Andre Johnson's best season (115/1575/8). Also, Andre's awesome and he's one of the few WRs in the league possessing of a "Beast Mode", but the only guys in the league today who have dominated quality competition as thoroughly as Fitzgerald did last postseason are Steve Smith South and Randy Moss. Fitzgerald *AVERAGED* 7.5/137/1.75 in the playoffs last season (would pro-rate to 120/2184/28 over a full season). Fitzgerald clearly demonstrated why he's the best WR in the entire NFL.Oh, by the way... he's only 26 years old. Which is insane. The kid had three 1400 yard seasons before his 26th birthday.
Spoken like a Fitz dynasty owner. Not that I don't think Fitz is a stud...but behind most of these guys in fantasy points this year..and gonna lose his Warner any year now.
Does losing his QB make him less of a player? Less "fantasy points"? Is that an argument? What's your question: Top WR, Top redraft fantasy WR, or top dynasty fantasy WR? Because I didn't see 'fantasy' anywhere in your original post.
 
Fantasy points = production....and i'm equating "the best' in this case with statistical significance. Too hard to argue who has the most talent or that so-and-so would possibly do (x) if in (y) situation. I'm saying, "who's getting it done right now...and who is most likely to get it done in the future".

And again, I do think Fitz is a stud...but not quite as high on him as some of you :shrug:

Bill

 
Spoken like a Fitz dynasty owner. Not that I don't think Fitz is a stud...but behind most of these guys in fantasy points this year..and gonna lose his Warner any year now.
Do you think I'm high on Fitzgerald because I own him, or do you think I own him because I'm high on him? I didn't draft Fitz- I traded Antonio Gates, Javon Walker, and a rookie 1st rounder to get him back when Walker was still with Denver. That's a king's ransom, and I considered it a bargain for a 25 year old who already had a pair of 1400 yard seasons. And now he's a 26 year old with a trio of 1400 yard seasons. That's more than Randy Moss had at his age. That's more than Jerry Rice had at his age.Talent trumps all, and since people have short memories, after the playoffs last year the question wasn't whether Fitzgerald was the best WR in the NFL (it was widely accepted that he was), it was whether he was the best PLAYER in the NFL. I'm not going to bury him just because he's ONLY on pace for 1150/11 so far this season.Even if Warner goes down... so what? Warner only played 10 games in 2004, and Fitz still had 1400+/10+. Warner only played 11 games in 2007 and Fitz still had 1400+/10+. In '04, he averaged 5.8 grabs for 86.3 yards and .83 TDs in games started by Josh Freaking McCown- that's 93/1380/13 over a full season. With Josh McCown. He was on pace for 109/1433/3 receiving in 2007 in games started by Matt Leinart (I think it's safe to say that the TD number there is a fluke). With Boldin, without Boldin, with Warner, without Warner- all Fitz has done his entire career is produce at an elite level, regardless of any surrounding circumstances. Which is what real studs do.Like I said, he's only 26, and he's already the second most proven WR in the entire NFL. Larry Fitzgerald (age 26) and Randy Moss (age 32) are the only receivers in the league with more than 2 1400+ yard seasons. Larry Fitzgerald (age 26), Randy Moss (age 32), Hines Ward (age 33), and Terrell Owens (age 35) are the only guys in the league with more than two 10+ TD seasons. Reggie Wayne can't claim that. Steve Smith can't claim that. Torry Holt can't claim that. Ochocinco can't claim that. Donald Driver, Derrick Mason, Brandon Marshall, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Andre Johnson... none of them can make that claim. Fitzgerald already has more 200 fantasy point campaigns in his career (3) than either Torry Holt (2) or Isaac Bruce (2). He has as many 200 fantasy point campaigns as Reggie Wayne (1), Andre Johnson (1), and Chad Ochocinco (1) COMBINED. If anything, Larry Fitzgerald isn't overrated, he's UNDERRATED. Basically, the only WRs in the last 20-30 years who have been this good and this proven this young have been Randy Moss and Jerry Rice.There are no circumstances under which I would bet against Fitzgerald. If you asked me "who is going to be the top receiver over the next _________", no matter what the blank is, I'm betting on Fitzgerald. He's the best receiver in the NFL.
Great, not just :hey: by SSOG up in here.
 
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The lack of love for Moss is crazy, but that being said if I am drafting my fantasy league today I am still taking Andre Johnson as the first WR off the board.
Moss is the second best WR on his team
That's a baloney sandwich.
from a fantasy standpoint he is, Welker is outscoring him in my league and I would image in every league. Welker definitely was ahead of him all of last season as well.
 
It is all about situations. Calvin Johnson on the Saints would be unstoppable. Colston on the Lions would be just average.
You mean when he is actually being a man and not getting hurt all the time, he is a wuss and has proved nuthing to me except he cant play through injuries!And what is your proof that Colston would be just average and CJ would be unstoppable except just your king like knowledge?
 
seems some people are speaking regarding Fantasy numbers.... others discussing real-life ability.Fantasy wise I can't argue that hard against Colston... BUT If we are discussing reality and talent Colston is well behind most the WRs in the Poll
Again whats your proof, Colston has had very few drops in his career and has always played at a high level since his rookie year!I might be mistaken, but does he not have the record for most catches for any wr in history after his first 2 years in the league?....if thats the case your right Colston is well behind the WR's in this poll. :goodposting:
 
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The lack of love for Moss is crazy, but that being said if I am drafting my fantasy league today I am still taking Andre Johnson as the first WR off the board.
Moss is the second best WR on his team
That's a baloney sandwich.
Thats why Welker has more catches then Moss, and Welker missed a couple games, lol!That means that Brady like Welker more, not even up for debate, more targets in less weeks, ummmmmmMost targets = Favorite WR for QB!
 
It is all about situations. Calvin Johnson on the Saints would be unstoppable. Colston on the Lions would be just average.
You mean when he is actually being a man and not getting hurt all the time, he is a wuss and has proved nuthing to me except he cant play through injuries!And what is your proof that Colston would be just average and CJ would be unstoppable except just your king like knowledge?
Hey..I like Colston...just saying.How many times has Colston been injured?
 
The lack of love for Moss is crazy, but that being said if I am drafting my fantasy league today I am still taking Andre Johnson as the first WR off the board.
Moss is the second best WR on his team
That's a baloney sandwich.
Thats why Welker has more catches then Moss, and Welker missed a couple games, lol!That means that Brady like Welker more, not even up for debate, more targets in less weeks, ummmmmmMost targets = Favorite WR for QB!
I said that JuSt CuZ his his username is Baloney Sandwich. It seemed fitting. And I don't care what the numbers say right now. Moss is the best WR in New England, and it's not close.
 
It is all about situations. Calvin Johnson on the Saints would be unstoppable. Colston on the Lions would be just average.
You mean when he is actually being a man and not getting hurt all the time, he is a wuss and has proved nuthing to me except he cant play through injuries!And what is your proof that Colston would be just average and CJ would be unstoppable except just your king like knowledge?
Hey..I like Colston...just saying.How many times has Colston been injured?
Rookie year missed only 2 games with the dreaded high ankle sprain, and last year missed 5 games with a torn tendon in his thumb!Not as injury prone as people make him out to be!Calvin wont even try to play if hes hurt!I own both in leagues so I am a fan of both so just talkin what I belive to be fact, (Not to mention bot the Saints and the Leos r my fav teams and I follow both closely)
 
The lack of love for Moss is crazy, but that being said if I am drafting my fantasy league today I am still taking Andre Johnson as the first WR off the board.
Moss is the second best WR on his team
That's a baloney sandwich.
Thats why Welker has more catches then Moss, and Welker missed a couple games, lol!That means that Brady like Welker more, not even up for debate, more targets in less weeks, ummmmmmMost targets = Favorite WR for QB!
I said that JuSt CuZ his his username is Baloney Sandwich. It seemed fitting. And I don't care what the numbers say right now. Moss is the best WR in New England, and it's not close.
Stats dont lie, so if its not close u just lost all credibility in this discussion!I wish I could start Moss on my team and know he will outperform Welker cuz u say so, to bad Brady dont agree with you this year!
 

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