Is Matt Jones being BLACKBALLED by NFL teams ? (1 Viewer)

[Casting Couch]

This Matt Jones situation is borderline bizarre. He really emerged last season on a team with a less than stellar passing attack.

There are many players who have seemingly committed more serious crimes and have been subsequently picked up quickly by other teams.

With the first pre-season game this coming weekend, why is Matt Jones still looking for work ?

 

[Wadsworth]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

 

[loose circuits]

I bet he's already had offers for 1 year vet minimum deals and has turned his nose. Maybe the 'right' team doesn't need a WR at this moment, but they could soon. Obviously with Atlanta's previous off the field issues, they don't want to bring on any baggage. Makes sense to me

 

[AB in DC]

Sounds like teams think his other shoe is about to drop. Or something like that.

 

[Sweet Love]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

 

[Routilla]

Perhaps he is not as good as some folks think.

 

[JMJ]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

 

[Wadsworth]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

If that qualifies as black balled then ball balling is pretty much SOP under Del Rio. He tends to go out of his way to blame others for anything that goes wrong. I've heard from several sources that the same thing happened with Leftwich and Mike Peterson(but of course Mike Smith knew Peterson from his days in Jax). Just a personal hunch, but I think Jack is concerned that a player like Leftwich or Matt Jones will go elsewhere and play well which would of course call his move into question. Jack is way concerned about what people think about Jack.

 

[rascal]

I bet he's already had offers for 1 year vet minimum deals and has turned his nose. Maybe the 'right' team doesn't need a WR at this moment, but they could soon. Obviously with Atlanta's previous off the field issues, they don't want to bring on any baggage. Makes sense to me

Oakland needs a QB and WR so he should give Al Davis a call and tell him his 40 time. Guaranteed to get a contract.

 

[FUBAR]

I bet he's already had offers for 1 year vet minimum deals and has turned his nose. Maybe the 'right' team doesn't need a WR at this moment, but they could soon. Obviously with Atlanta's previous off the field issues, they don't want to bring on any baggage. Makes sense to me

Oakland needs a QB and WR so he should give Al Davis a call and tell him his 40 time. Guaranteed to get a contract.

He will get a contract by the season, but I doubt it's Oakland. I'm borderline shocked that he hasn't signed with Dallas yet.

 

[massraider]

Obviously, it's a race thing. Poor white man can't get a break from the MAN.

 

[Sweet Love]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

If that qualifies as black balled then ball balling is pretty much SOP under Del Rio. He tends to go out of his way to blame others for anything that goes wrong. I've heard from several sources that the same thing happened with Leftwich and Mike Peterson(but of course Mike Smith knew Peterson from his days in Jax). Just a personal hunch, but I think Jack is concerned that a player like Leftwich or Matt Jones will go elsewhere and play well which would of course call his move into question. Jack is way concerned about what people think about Jack.

I hear ya...JDR does not seem to take the high road at all and eventually he is going to burn the wrong bridge...it almost seems petty the way he deals with ex-players.

 

[texasbirdfan]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

This confirms that I now conclude that Del Rio is perhaps the most ill suited man to head coach a modern NFL team (Petrino notwithstanding) Instead of "handling" Jones he would bully him. But I believe that Jones was just of a different temperament. You would think the front office would have gotten a clue to Del Rio's shortcomings when the best part of his staff left to join Atlanta and look how the Falcons improved and he tanked.I have trouble seeing Del Rio interviewed, he just looks disturbing. But to trash players, which fits him, especially Jones who I think can do great things is shameful.

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[Pictus Cat]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

 

[texasbirdfan]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.

Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

seems funny to you huh? read the link real storyhttp://www.jacksonville.com/sports/footbal...lots_nfl_return

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

I was trying to think of a more nuanced version of this joke. But I couldn't because I'm high. (ruh roh)

 

[Pictus Cat]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.

Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

seems funny to you huh? read the link real storyhttp://www.jacksonville.com/sports/footbal...lots_nfl_return

I'm glad he's a success story...and in record time for an addict...

 

[Adebisi]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.

Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

seems funny to you huh? read the link real storyhttp://www.jacksonville.com/sports/footbal...lots_nfl_return

I stopped reading after the claim that he first tried cocaine only three months prior to his arrest.

 

[Wadsworth]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

The coke arrest was over a year ago and he's stayed out of trouble while being tested very often. Oh, except he drank a beer from time to time while golfing. Since the coke arrest he's played some pretty good football and is likely currently in the best shape of his career. Sure he's a risk, but to say he has a coke habit when he's passed something like 100 drug tests since the arrest is stretching it a bit.

 

[loose circuits]

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

The coke arrest was over a year ago and he's stayed out of trouble while being tested very often. Oh, except he drank a beer from time to time while golfing. Since the coke arrest he's played some pretty good football and is likely currently in the best shape of his career. Sure he's a risk, but to say he has a coke habit when he's passed something like 100 drug tests since the arrest is stretching it a bit.

1 bust does not make an addict, seriously doubt he's smuggling blow into the training facility where he has been staying

 

[Phurfur]

This Matt Jones situation is borderline bizarre. He really emerged last season on a team with a less than stellar passing attack.There are many players who have seemingly committed more serious crimes and have been subsequently picked up quickly by other teams.With the first pre-season game this coming weekend, why is Matt Jones still looking for work ?

Blackballed? Do you mean 8-balled?

Your former coach's opinion seems to pale in comparson to your coke habit.Would you trust a coke addict to stay out of trouble?

The coke arrest was over a year ago and he's stayed out of trouble while being tested very often. Oh, except he drank a beer from time to time while golfing. Since the coke arrest he's played some pretty good football and is likely currently in the best shape of his career. Sure he's a risk, but to say he has a coke habit when he's passed something like 100 drug tests since the arrest is stretching it a bit.

1 bust does not make an addict, seriously doubt he's smuggling blow into the training facility where he has been staying

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

 

[loose circuits]

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

easy for you to judge that after the fact. I drank when I was on probation in my early 20's...as well as did lots of people I know. To simply conclude that 'he is an addict' based off 2 piss poor decisions is not logical IMO. Especially the 2nd one where having a few beers at a golf course is pretty harmless. Is Cris Carter an addict? Mike Irvin? many others that have made bad decisions and turned it around later in lifeEither way, it doesn't matter what you or I think and if we continue on this path, they will lock this thread again like the previous one where the discussion turned for the bad...

 

[Phurfur]

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

easy for you to judge that after the fact. I drank when I was on probation in my early 20's...as well as did lots of people I know. To simply conclude that 'he is an addict' based off 2 piss poor decisions is not logical IMO. Especially the 2nd one where having a few beers at a golf course is pretty harmless. Is Cris Carter an addict? Mike Irvin? many others that have made bad decisions and turned it around later in lifeEither way, it doesn't matter what you or I think and if we continue on this path, they will lock this thread again like the previous one where the discussion turned for the bad...

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I bet he's already had offers for 1 year vet minimum deals and has turned his nose. Maybe the 'right' team doesn't need a WR at this moment, but they could soon. Obviously with Atlanta's previous off the field issues, they don't want to bring on any baggage. Makes sense to me

:cokejoke:

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

A bad review of a former employee does NOT mean that employee is being "blackballed". If I employ you and you totally suck as an employee, why would I want to ruin MY credibility by giving you a positive review? I have every right to give an honest review if I choose to do so. That doesn't mean it's what I'd do necessarily, but it really has very little to do with "blackballing".Being "blackballed" is a situation where a GROUP gets together and agrees that they will not hire a particular person. I don't the the NFL owners have gotten together as a GROUP and done that. I think individual teams have decided he's not worth the trouble.

So far, no team team has been desperate enough to sign a guy who seems to have have a serious drug problem. It's not about "bad behavior", it's about the fact that guys with drug problems tend not to be productive in the long run, no matter how big and fast they are.

 

[Sweet Love]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

A bad review of a former employee does NOT mean that employee is being "blackballed". If I employ you and you totally suck as an employee, why would I want to ruin MY credibility by giving you a positive review? I have every right to give an honest review if I choose to do so. That doesn't mean it's what I'd do necessarily, but it really has very little to do with "blackballing".Being "blackballed" is a situation where a GROUP gets together and agrees that they will not hire a particular person. I don't the the NFL owners have gotten together as a GROUP and done that. I think individual teams have decided he's not worth the trouble.

So far, no team team has been desperate enough to sign a guy who seems to have have a serious drug problem. It's not about "bad behavior", it's about the fact that guys with drug problems tend not to be productive in the long run, no matter how big and fast they are.

I understand your thinking, but most people take the "high road" as I suggested. Very few in the business or NFL world, would flat-out state, "guy is a cancer", etc. I also did not say that he is being black-balled, but this is how is starts. Maybe Jones is the worst human being to ever put on a uniform (I highly doubt it), but when Del Rio goes around and bashes Leftwitch and Peterson, it is just plain dumb and can be hurtful when these guys have such short careers.For example, do I think Aaron Brooks was officially "black balled" from the NFL?? Of course not, but I also wonder why a guy who averaged 26 TDs total between ages 25-28 (4 years total) is out of the league by 30...never committed any crimes, just had enough people behind the scenes saying negative stuff and he never got a sniff again.

 

[loose circuits]

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

easy for you to judge that after the fact. I drank when I was on probation in my early 20's...as well as did lots of people I know. To simply conclude that 'he is an addict' based off 2 piss poor decisions is not logical IMO. Especially the 2nd one where having a few beers at a golf course is pretty harmless. Is Cris Carter an addict? Mike Irvin? many others that have made bad decisions and turned it around later in lifeEither way, it doesn't matter what you or I think and if we continue on this path, they will lock this thread again like the previous one where the discussion turned for the bad...

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Are you trying to tell me that everyone that has been popped for drug/alcohol then drank a beer while on probation is an alcoholic and shouldn't be offered a job by anybody regardless if they have turned their life around?Some people just make bad decisions and don't think things out...especially in their early late teens & early twenty's. Ridiculous to immediately assume they are an addict. Those bad decisions and the consequences they face are what allows them to mature and become a better person. Definitely shouldn't write them off and never allow them to make up for their mistakes- what good does that do our country as a whole?

I haven't seen you address the actions Jones is taking at this time to correct his life- mental, physical conditioning, etc... Those things don't matter to you? That he's paying a lot of his own money to make sure he is sharp? That doesn't seem to be a sign of an addict to me

 

[Phurfur]

I'm pretty close to the Matt Jones situation and Matt isn't being blackballed. The Jaguars and specifically Jack Del Rio are telling any team that asks that Matt is lazy, a locker room cancer, etc. But that's about as far as it goes, it's not a league wide thing, just his former team expressing their extreme disappointment in a player they cut.

It is a bit bizarre, but he should find a team soon and he's in great shape so any missed time shouldn't matter.

I believe that is how it starts. They could be taking the high road with either a "no comment" (like your HR dept would do if you were fired), or even say, something like "Hey, you know everything from the news. Guy got in trouble, guy has ability; hopefully he can turn things around". If you are close to the situation and the team/Del Rio are saying the things you listed, in essence, he is getting black balled.

A bad review of a former employee does NOT mean that employee is being "blackballed". If I employ you and you totally suck as an employee, why would I want to ruin MY credibility by giving you a positive review? I have every right to give an honest review if I choose to do so. That doesn't mean it's what I'd do necessarily, but it really has very little to do with "blackballing".Being "blackballed" is a situation where a GROUP gets together and agrees that they will not hire a particular person. I don't the the NFL owners have gotten together as a GROUP and done that. I think individual teams have decided he's not worth the trouble.

So far, no team team has been desperate enough to sign a guy who seems to have have a serious drug problem. It's not about "bad behavior", it's about the fact that guys with drug problems tend not to be productive in the long run, no matter how big and fast they are.

I understand your thinking, but most people take the "high road" as I suggested. Very few in the business or NFL world, would flat-out state, "guy is a cancer", etc. I also did not say that he is being black-balled, but this is how is starts. Maybe Jones is the worst human being to ever put on a uniform (I highly doubt it), but when Del Rio goes around and bashes Leftwitch and Peterson, it is just plain dumb and can be hurtful when these guys have such short careers.For example, do I think Aaron Brooks was officially "black balled" from the NFL?? Of course not, but I also wonder why a guy who averaged 26 TDs total between ages 25-28 (4 years total) is out of the league by 30...never committed any crimes, just had enough people behind the scenes saying negative stuff and he never got a sniff again.

Actually it is a legal matter. If you say anything negative about a former emplyee you better have a ton of documentation or you could find yourself losing a lawsuit. We offer no opinions of a former emplyees and only give out basic data like hire date and termination date. I don't believe the Jags organization are saying these things.

 

[Zoomanji]

Laughable

He's not being black-balled

He did this to himself. Gms won't trust him not to get busted again

 

[Phurfur]

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

easy for you to judge that after the fact. I drank when I was on probation in my early 20's...as well as did lots of people I know. To simply conclude that 'he is an addict' based off 2 piss poor decisions is not logical IMO. Especially the 2nd one where having a few beers at a golf course is pretty harmless. Is Cris Carter an addict? Mike Irvin? many others that have made bad decisions and turned it around later in lifeEither way, it doesn't matter what you or I think and if we continue on this path, they will lock this thread again like the previous one where the discussion turned for the bad...

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Are you trying to tell me that everyone that has been popped for drug/alcohol then drank a beer while on probation is an alcoholic and shouldn't be offered a job by anybody regardless if they have turned their life around?Some people just make bad decisions and don't think things out...especially in their early late teens & early twenty's. Ridiculous to immediately assume they are an addict. Those bad decisions and the consequences they face are what allows them to mature and become a better person. Definitely shouldn't write them off and never allow them to make up for their mistakes- what good does that do our country as a whole?

I haven't seen you address the actions Jones is taking at this time to correct his life- mental, physical conditioning, etc... Those things don't matter to you? That he's paying a lot of his own money to make sure he is sharp? That doesn't seem to be a sign of an addict to me

If you are ordered not to drink and you drink anyway you have a substance absuse problem. You can't stay away from it and anyone that doesn't see that is in denial. And I consider this to be their second chance. By the way, you don't turn your life around in 3 months.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

I voted no... not for the substance abuse problem being debated here. But because of the fact it took him 3 years to learn the JV playbook.

 

[loose circuits]

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

easy for you to judge that after the fact. I drank when I was on probation in my early 20's...as well as did lots of people I know. To simply conclude that 'he is an addict' based off 2 piss poor decisions is not logical IMO. Especially the 2nd one where having a few beers at a golf course is pretty harmless. Is Cris Carter an addict? Mike Irvin? many others that have made bad decisions and turned it around later in lifeEither way, it doesn't matter what you or I think and if we continue on this path, they will lock this thread again like the previous one where the discussion turned for the bad...

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Are you trying to tell me that everyone that has been popped for drug/alcohol then drank a beer while on probation is an alcoholic and shouldn't be offered a job by anybody regardless if they have turned their life around?Some people just make bad decisions and don't think things out...especially in their early late teens & early twenty's. Ridiculous to immediately assume they are an addict. Those bad decisions and the consequences they face are what allows them to mature and become a better person. Definitely shouldn't write them off and never allow them to make up for their mistakes- what good does that do our country as a whole?

I haven't seen you address the actions Jones is taking at this time to correct his life- mental, physical conditioning, etc... Those things don't matter to you? That he's paying a lot of his own money to make sure he is sharp? That doesn't seem to be a sign of an addict to me

If you are ordered not to drink and you drink anyway you have a substance absuse problem. You can't stay away from it and anyone that doesn't see that is in denial. And I consider this to be their second chance. By the way, you don't turn your life around in 3 months.

I don't see it near as black & white. We don't know the circumstances or peer pressure involved. If his friends happen to engage in those activities, it is certainly possible that he felt compelled to and just didn't think it through. As he grows up and matures, he'll be able to see that social activities can be done without alcohol. After learning bad decisions have consequences. At this point though, it could just be that he has some bad people around him rather than an addiction. In which case, the problem can be solved in 3 months by cutting off contact with that crowd. I agree it's possible he has a bad problem, but there is no way that we can conclude he's addict based on the evidence available. From many years spent on probation & all the crap that goes along with it, my experience tells me almost everybody on probation, work release, or whatever does things they are not supposed to do if they think they can get away with it. That is what I base my opinion on. I don't think all of those people are addicts, but I would agree a good portion of them are.Based on your line of thinking, I guess Vincent Jackson is an addict too since he got a DUI while on probation for a DUI? Brandon Marshall? Larry Johnson? should we avoid them in all drafts cause they are addicts and it's only a matter of time before they do something stupid again?

 

[finito]

By the way, you don't turn your life around in 3 months.

Link to proof this is impossible?

 

[Andy Herron]

I'm borderline shocked that he hasn't signed with Dallas yet.

That's all been strictly media driven. There is no place or opportunity for Matt Jones in Dallas at all.ETA: I voted "no" by the way.

 

[Wadsworth]

He has a substance abuse problem. The fact that he drank when he wasn't suppose to says it all. Matt Jones black balled himself.

easy for you to judge that after the fact. I drank when I was on probation in my early 20's...as well as did lots of people I know. To simply conclude that 'he is an addict' based off 2 piss poor decisions is not logical IMO. Especially the 2nd one where having a few beers at a golf course is pretty harmless. Is Cris Carter an addict? Mike Irvin? many others that have made bad decisions and turned it around later in lifeEither way, it doesn't matter what you or I think and if we continue on this path, they will lock this thread again like the previous one where the discussion turned for the bad...

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Are you trying to tell me that everyone that has been popped for drug/alcohol then drank a beer while on probation is an alcoholic and shouldn't be offered a job by anybody regardless if they have turned their life around?Some people just make bad decisions and don't think things out...especially in their early late teens & early twenty's. Ridiculous to immediately assume they are an addict. Those bad decisions and the consequences they face are what allows them to mature and become a better person. Definitely shouldn't write them off and never allow them to make up for their mistakes- what good does that do our country as a whole?

I haven't seen you address the actions Jones is taking at this time to correct his life- mental, physical conditioning, etc... Those things don't matter to you? That he's paying a lot of his own money to make sure he is sharp? That doesn't seem to be a sign of an addict to me

If you are ordered not to drink and you drink anyway you have a substance absuse problem. You can't stay away from it and anyone that doesn't see that is in denial. And I consider this to be their second chance. By the way, you don't turn your life around in 3 months.

Ordered? No one ordered him to not drink. It was part of the rehab program he was involved with and he was released from with glowing endorsement. I have a hard time understanding your logic that someone that has been drug tested around 100 times in the last year and passed everyone for anything except an enzyme which is used to process alcohol has a "habit" and is an "addict". Seems to me that you are throwing those words around pretty casually without a lot of information.

 

[texasbirdfan]

I'm borderline shocked that he hasn't signed with Dallas yet.

That's all been strictly media driven. There is no place or opportunity for Matt Jones in Dallas at all.ETA: I voted "no" by the way.

Why not? Jones Alma Mater, the other guys vying for time besides Williams are more hopeful than proven, Dallas is a haven for the unreformed- can't imagine why the 'Boys wouldn't be the ideal fit as do other observers.

 

[flat_earth]

Voted No.

The guy just isn't very good. If he was squeaky clean he might get a couple "show me" offers but he's not anywhere near squeaky clean. So who would a GM rather have....Marty Booker/Amani Toomer/Drew Bennet/etc or Matt Jones and all his baggage. The answer is obvious to me.

 

[texasbirdfan]

Voted No.The guy just isn't very good. If he was squeaky clean he might get a couple "show me" offers but he's not anywhere near squeaky clean. So who would a GM rather have....Marty Booker/Amani Toomer/Drew Bennet/etc or Matt Jones and all his baggage. The answer is obvious to me.

Sorry to disagree. When did the NFL quit taking guys with baggage? And when did the NFL not look at a guy who improved every year in the league and was the #1 at his position with his previous team?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Voted No.The guy just isn't very good. If he was squeaky clean he might get a couple "show me" offers but he's not anywhere near squeaky clean. So who would a GM rather have....Marty Booker/Amani Toomer/Drew Bennet/etc or Matt Jones and all his baggage. The answer is obvious to me.

Sorry to disagree. When did the NFL quit taking guys with baggage? And when did the NFL not look at a guy who improved every year in the league and was the #1 at his position with his previous team?

Jones did not improve every year. He nearly disappeared in 2007.

 

[Andy Herron]

I'm borderline shocked that he hasn't signed with Dallas yet.

That's all been strictly media driven. There is no place or opportunity for Matt Jones in Dallas at all.ETA: I voted "no" by the way.

Why not? Jones Alma Mater, the other guys vying for time besides Williams are more hopeful than proven, Dallas is a haven for the unreformed- can't imagine why the 'Boys wouldn't be the ideal fit as do other observers.

For one, Jones' Alma Mater means "zilch." For another, Matt wouldn't bring anything to the Cowboys that they don't already have.To expand, the Cowboys' present WRs have been here a few years having already developed a rapport with Romo and the offense. Austin and Hurd have only seen limited action due to the depth chart and injuries. Now healthy and in the last year of their contracts, it is their time to shine. Throw in Patrick Crayton, and these guys have produced far more than you realize when given the opportunity. Throw in TEs Witten and Martellus Bennett along with Roy Williams, and the Cowboys have all the arsenal they need in the passing game. There's no room or need here for a guy like Matt Jones. It doesn't even make sense.

ETA: "Haven for the unreformed" is in the past.

 

[texasbirdfan]

I'm borderline shocked that he hasn't signed with Dallas yet.

That's all been strictly media driven. There is no place or opportunity for Matt Jones in Dallas at all.ETA: I voted "no" by the way.

Why not? Jones Alma Mater, the other guys vying for time besides Williams are more hopeful than proven, Dallas is a haven for the unreformed- can't imagine why the 'Boys wouldn't be the ideal fit as do other observers.

For one, Jones' Alma Mater means "zilch." For another, Matt wouldn't bring anything to the Cowboys that they don't already have.To expand, the Cowboys' present WRs have been here a few years having already developed a rapport with Romo and the offense. Austin and Hurd have only seen limited action due to the depth chart and injuries. Now healthy and in the last year of their contracts, it is their time to shine. Throw in Patrick Crayton, and these guys have produced far more than you realize when given the opportunity. Throw in TEs Witten and Martellus Bennett along with Roy Williams, and the Cowboys have all the arsenal they need in the passing game. There's no room or need here for a guy like Matt Jones. It doesn't even make sense.

ETA: "Haven for the unreformed" is in the past.

With all due respect, mine are not original thoughts. Solid at Wide Receiver is not in most NFL analysts vocabulary this past off season. Jerry is a junkie for the unreformed and until he goes off the wagon for a good number of seasons I won't be convinced- just as many are convinced Matt Jones is an all out junkie and no good..

 

[Bruno2]

I am kinda surprised the Raiders haven't expressed any interest. Going into the season with Walker, Higgins, Heyward-Bey, Murphy and Schilens as the top WRs, I have to wonder, why not give the guy a shot? Davis has been known to roll the dice on outcasts or "2nd chance" guys in the past. If he's not biting maybe there's something more we don't know.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

With KC's depth chart, I would take him right now -- even after signing Toomer. Jones has to be better than Devard Darling or Jeff Webb.

 

[loose circuits]

I am kinda surprised the Raiders haven't expressed any interest. Going into the season with Walker, Higgins, Heyward-Bey, Murphy and Schilens as the top WRs, I have to wonder, why not give the guy a shot? Davis has been known to roll the dice on outcasts or "2nd chance" guys in the past. If he's not biting maybe there's something more we don't know.

wouldn't signing Jones just take reps away from the young guys? Seems like they could have their top 4 WR's for a while...

 

[FUBAR]

I'm borderline shocked that he hasn't signed with Dallas yet.

That's all been strictly media driven. There is no place or opportunity for Matt Jones in Dallas at all.ETA: I voted "no" by the way.

Why not? Jones Alma Mater, the other guys vying for time besides Williams are more hopeful than proven, Dallas is a haven for the unreformed- can't imagine why the 'Boys wouldn't be the ideal fit as do other observers.

For one, Jones' Alma Mater means "zilch." For another, Matt wouldn't bring anything to the Cowboys that they don't already have.To expand, the Cowboys' present WRs have been here a few years having already developed a rapport with Romo and the offense. Austin and Hurd have only seen limited action due to the depth chart and injuries. Now healthy and in the last year of their contracts, it is their time to shine. Throw in Patrick Crayton, and these guys have produced far more than you realize when given the opportunity. Throw in TEs Witten and Martellus Bennett along with Roy Williams, and the Cowboys have all the arsenal they need in the passing game. There's no room or need here for a guy like Matt Jones. It doesn't even make sense.

ETA: "Haven for the unreformed" is in the past.

With all due respect, mine are not original thoughts. Solid at Wide Receiver is not in most NFL analysts vocabulary this past off season. Jerry is a junkie for the unreformed and until he goes off the wagon for a good number of seasons I won't be convinced- just as many are convinced Matt Jones is an all out junkie and no good..

Pretty much what I'm thinking as well. Sign him to either a vet minimum or incentive laden contract, if he beats out the youngsters, great. If he doesn't, more competition is usually a good thing.

 

[mbuehner]

NFL's been blackballing me for years. Who wouldn't want a 6ft, middle aged white man that runs a 8.0 40, drinks like a fish, and can nearly benchpress his weight? I'm talking about me in this case- not Matt Jones.

 

[Routilla]

I'm a little surprised Philly has not shown interest especially with their early camp injuries at both TE and WR.

 

[loose circuits]

I'm a little surprised Philly has not shown interest especially with their early camp injuries at both TE and WR.

they are already having trouble finding roster spots for the 6 guys they got?who is he going to beat out?DeseanCurtisAvantMaclinBrownBaskett (special teams ace)

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I'm a little surprised Philly has not shown interest especially with their early camp injuries at both TE and WR.

they are already having trouble finding roster spots for the 6 guys they got?who is he going to beat out?

Desean

Curtis

Avant

Maclin

Brown

Baskett (special teams ace)

He should easily beat out these guys.

 

[loose circuits]

I'm a little surprised Philly has not shown interest especially with their early camp injuries at both TE and WR.

they are already having trouble finding roster spots for the 6 guys they got?who is he going to beat out?

Desean

Curtis

Avant

Maclin

Brown

Baskett (special teams ace)

He should easily beat out these guys.

based off what? He's not gonna be better than Baskett on special teams. The staff thinks Avant is the best slot receiver in the game and Brown has been lighting up camp.I like Matt Jones as much as anybody, but my Eagles have absolutely no use for another WR. In fact, they need to trade 1 away