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Is MBIII an every week starter... (1 Viewer)
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packersfan
Footballguy
He's been Top 20 dating back to the second half of last season and he's Top 10 in most scoring systems this season. If you have Barber and you're not starting him you must have some incredible talent at RB. In flex leagues, he's an absolute no brainer to be starting. Julius Jones also got hurt tonight so if the injury is serious Barber's value goes up even more. The Cowboys face the Rams next week and should run all over them.
duaneok66
Footballguy
I am just dumb . . . I have Sjax and Cadillac . . .
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
He is for me.
packersfan
Footballguy
Hard to argue with starting Cadillac this week and he did score but if I had those two I'd be going with Barber. Just my two cents.
duaneok66
Footballguy
I will start Barber next week and with my luck, he will get hurt in the 1st quarter . . .
The Jerk
Footballguy
BECAUSEHe's their red zone and grind the clock guy.High scoring offense for red zone work (check)Team likely to win 11+ games (check)
packersfan
Footballguy
I passed on him as my RB3 and I think I'm going to spend every week kicking myself for that decision. I thought he'd suffer a decline in production this season - not significant but definitely in terms of TDs. But he's showing no signs whatsoever he'll drop off in terms of TDs and he's piling up the yards as well. I can't imagine any Barber parting with him for anything less than an obscene amount at this point.
The Jerk
Footballguy
He was the 34th pick of the draft in a heavy TD league, and I thought at the time that it was a bad move, too, as it was the team who had him last year who "reached" for him. I chose Owens with the 25th pick, so I'm not complaining, but it clearly wasn't much of a reach.
packersfan
Footballguy
Nope. I had him last season and just didn't think he could recapture everything that he did but it sure looks like I was wrong. I didn't think he'd score 16 TDs again and it appears I was right about that. The thing is - he very well could score more than 16 this season.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Don't feel bad. Like you I thought it was a lightning in a bottle type thing, too. I thought he would finish with 8-10 TDs and maybe a slight uptick in yards. Call it a learning experience for future FF reference.
one of my leagues is a TD heavy league and we can only start 2 rbs (no flex). my starters all season have been addai and thenry. i've been pondering utilizing barber since in td heavy leagues, he is one of the top rb's in overall points. but how do you start him over addai (you cannot) and henry (in spite of this 11-carry week)?
bottom line is if you have barber, you need to find a reason to get him into your lineup. find a reason, any reason. it's clear that barber is getting the goal line carries, the junk carries, the late game carries when the D's are tired, and julius jones is all but forgotten in this offense. and if JJ is hurt for any extended period of time, MB3 becomes a RB1 convincingly. at this point, his consistency with the limited reps makes him unbenchable. a tough decision for most owners with 2-3 stud-ish rb's, but think about the trades this frees you up for... get him into your lineup.
bottom line is if you have barber, you need to find a reason to get him into your lineup. find a reason, any reason. it's clear that barber is getting the goal line carries, the junk carries, the late game carries when the D's are tired, and julius jones is all but forgotten in this offense. and if JJ is hurt for any extended period of time, MB3 becomes a RB1 convincingly. at this point, his consistency with the limited reps makes him unbenchable. a tough decision for most owners with 2-3 stud-ish rb's, but think about the trades this frees you up for... get him into your lineup.
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packersfan
Footballguy
I was projecting 10-12 TDs which is still a good number but I bought into the party line that Jones would be more active in this offense. So I anticipated a slight decline in overall production from Barber and a slight increase in overall production from Jones.Oops.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Jones has value still (unless he is injured) mostly because Barber could himself get injured. That's the only way I'd start him at this point. Amazing how fast things change.
packersfan
Footballguy
I still like Jones and I thought he looked pretty good tonight. He had two long gains negated by penalty and showed good burst and he ran with authority. It's too bad he got hurt late because he may have gotten some of the carries late that Barber ended up getting. But as much as I like Jones, it's getting harder and harder to have any faith he's going to deliver some (at worst) decent fantasy production. If he isn't hurt and can't deliver next week against the Rams there may be no hope for him barring an injury to Barber. The sad thing about Jones is that last season he was a respectable RB3 in most leagues but he isn't even at that level now.
you're correct. the value is still there, only because jj has shown he can be a workhorse in the games he was soley featured in several years back.was it ever determined why parcells would never annoint jj the 'man' even after his multiple 100+ yard performances a few years back?...
packersfan
Footballguy
Parcells didn't believe Jones could hold up if given 20+ carries a game consistently. So enter Marion Barber.
The Jerk
Footballguy
And he had evidence to that effect with various injuries, including one for roughly half the season back in either 2004 or 2005.
Reservoir Dog
Footballguy
The guy is a beast, he might be the best RB in the NFL (no, I haven't gone mad). I thought last year was a fluke, but the guy scores 1-2 TD's EVERY WEEK!!!!!
easy, because......they use him inside the 5 yard line in the passing and rushing game and Dallas is one of the top offenses in the league. It's hard to keep him out of the endzone any week.
Fighting Noles
Footballguy
This is what cracks me up about the people here who slam MJD because he was the "TD guy" BACKUP behind a starter, yet everyone is fine with MB3 who was in a very similar situation (except far LESS total yards than MJD last year). It all depends on how YOUR guy does in the current situation here.
"Don't draft a QB early" look at what Bulger & Brees have done - Then those with Brady & Palmer say "you better get a consistent starting QB early". It all depends on which guy you ended up with how you view the argument IMO...
"Don't draft a QB early" look at what Bulger & Brees have done - Then those with Brady & Palmer say "you better get a consistent starting QB early". It all depends on which guy you ended up with how you view the argument IMO...
duaneok66
Footballguy
again, MBIII wasnt taken in the second round, and for the record, I wouldnt have taken Barber in the 4th either . . .
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
What's crazy is in these first three games of this season he's been scoring from well outside of 5 yds. His strength and quickness have allowed him to break tackles and juke on long runs AND receptions. Dude just has crazy sick talent -- and I think he's best with Jones up in the mix. Keeps Barber fresh throughout the game.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
MB3 is not just better than JJones, he's better than many starters on other teams.
Fantasy-wise, he's a Top 10 RB in a year where RB production is slim. That alone tells you that he's a must start.
Fantasy-wise, he's a Top 10 RB in a year where RB production is slim. That alone tells you that he's a must start.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
He is now. I have Edge James and Larry Johnson that I have played each week leaving Barber III on the bench. That decision has cost me one victory already. :wallbash:
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I would play Barber only if you like rBs that score TDs every week..i
packersfan
Footballguy
That's been the pattern. My belief is they would rotate the two RBs early and then give the bulk of the carries to the "hot hand" as the game went on. Last night, neither RB really jumped out although I would contend Jones was running better than Barber prior to his injury in the fourth quarter. So the carries remained split until Jones got hurt. Then Barber mopped up and went gonzo again.
