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Don't wish to jinx any player but Antonio Brown is as consistent a WR as I can recall from the past couple of years. Hasn't had a game below 5 catches and 59yds since season before last. He is a bit of a rarity though. He was available much later than Calvin this year. Calvin has bigger games than anyone but plenty of clunkers along the way.
If we're talking about draft position, then it comes down to who would have been a better player to take at that pick. We'll have to see how things finish up to judge for this year, but last year I imagine he was still worthy of where he was drafted despite having some down games. What player(s) don't have some down games during the year?
Wouldn't argue that much at all, just making the point there are one or two out there who are super consistent. Brown was just outside the so called elite WR's last year like Thomas and Marshall due to his TD totals being a little (think he had 8 as opposed to 12-14 like Dez and Demaryius) under theirs but with 5 already, i'd think double digit TD's shouldn't be a big reach.
How do you know the knees bothering him at all? Looked fine until the ankle.cvnpoka said:
His first game this year was awesome and the next two were solid before the injury.There have been other times in the past where players were written off due to injury and bounced back. I traded Jamal Charles after the season he got injured week one and missed the rest. He went on to be the top back. I'm not going to risk the same mistake with Calvin...
So am I. I don't care that he's gone on record stating he feels much better this week than he did last. It's player-speak.
Any official word on whether he was limited?
This reminds me of Randy Moss one year while he was still in MN. I don't remember specifics, but I had him in a dynasty league and he was always questionable for several weeks in a row. He wouldn't play much at all, but he still had to be started. For instance, one game he had something like only two short catches, but both were for TDs...
Someone here claims that someone personally in the know told him Calvin's knee is bone on bone.
Can't get my head round that one at all (being willing to trade Brown who is vying with Nelson for WR1 for an injured CJ).tombonneau said:
So...Brown is now the most dominant receiver in the game? Oh wait, this is a redraft site. Sorry. Carry on.
Nothing to do with being the most dominant WR in the game at all which Brown certainly isn't. I would imagine it's more to do with the small detail of averaging 18 points per game in non PPR versus 11. Obviously dynasty might be a different story. If CJ weren't injured, it's a different conversation altogether.
Maybe georg013's league doesn't award points based on things like yards, touchdowns, or maybe receptions? Maybe they just award points based on who has the biggest name and who had the best season in 2012?
Think i'll offer Brown for him. I prefer having that sexy name on my roster instead of the guy who is WR1 through 4 weeks. Who needs him to actually, ya know, play and stuff?
Or maybe...just maybe...Calvin Johnson has finished top 10 for SEVERAL consecutive years and I don't believe the sky is falling on his career. Maybe that. Again, I get the redraft mentality. It's the same mentality that has people questioning McCoy and Lacy after a few down weeks (despite outstanding years last season). But as I said, carry on. Panic away! An ankle injury is MORE THAN ENOUGH to abandon the most dominant PLAYER in fantasy football during his age 29 season. Yeah, I'm the crazy one. There is a difference between being HOT and being great. Calvin is great. Brown is hot.
Don't think anyone called you crazy. Actually agree with most of your post. To be fair though, Brown was excellent throughout last year as well, bettered Calvin's yardage and only fell short in td's, he had 8 to Calvin's 12. It's not a fluke or a hot streak. This year in redraft, I still would rather have Brown CURRENTLY, because who knows how bad Calvin's injury is? If it's a multi-week injury, or he plays and is only a decoy, he's not very useful is he?
Remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint. The poster above put it best. Don't allow yourself to get swept up into the hysteria. Calvin has been the most consistent WR in fantasy. I own Brown and more than appreciate what he brings to my REDRAFT team. However, some of the reactions I have seen surrounding Calvin's ankle injury is astounding. Perhaps I have mistakenly correlated the number of posts with fantasy acumen. Lots of empty ships floating around fantasy island because everyone has abandoned and now, they don't have anywhere to swim. The patience displayed by owners these days is lacking IMO. Wish the guys in my league were like this. I'd own every stud out there.
I'm only concerned with future production. CJ's ankle seems like it could be more serious than is being let on. Now we are talking about him missing a game. We aren't talking about panicking and trading him for a Victor Cruz or Emmanuel Sanders. But if you can trade him for a player that you project will finish in WR1-5 and remove the known risk of a potentially lingering ankle injury, that to me is smart planning.
Don't think there is anything hysterical about preferring the number one WR to an injured superstar who may or may not come back and be the player he has been. In redraft it's a fair debate at the very least.
In terms of value, just offered Cobb for Megatron straight up in a Keep 3 12 team standard league, Cobb can be kept for a 2015 14th rounder, Calvin can't and I'm in win now mode.
His TD average is an interesting stat to use.
Last time I checked a TD was worth 6 pts regardless of the quarter. Lots of TDs come in broken or bad coverage ...they are also worth 6 pts
Yes they are.
