Is nuclear energy the answer to climate change? (1 Viewer)

[stlrams]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

 

[FairWarning]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

 

[BladeRunner]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no?

 

[stlrams]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

 

[BladeRunner]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

Nah....It's all about hamstringing the USA. Let them pollute as much as they want. The focus is taking down America so let's blame everything on us.

America = Bad
Everyone Else = Good

 

[tommyGunZ]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

Nah....It's all about hamstringing the USA. Let them pollute as much as they want. The focus is taking down America so let's blame everything on us.

America = Bad
Everyone Else = Good

Do real people actually believe stuff like this?

 

[tommyGunZ]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

 

[BladeRunner]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

Nah....It's all about hamstringing the USA. Let them pollute as much as they want. The focus is taking down America so let's blame everything on us.

America = Bad
Everyone Else = Good

Do real people actually believe stuff like this?

You bet they do.

 

[FairWarning]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

We are not influencing China on anything until we quit dealing with them.

 

[FairWarning]

Since we are buying our solar panels, batteries, and other crap from China, we’re screwed.

 

[joffer]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

 

[stlrams]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

 

[Stoneworker]

Since we are buying our solar panels, batteries, and other crap from China, we’re screwed.

This is already somewhat outdated thinking. Lots of stuff happening very quickly.

...automakers are looking for gold on US soil. After President Biden signed the new climate bill, automakers are scrambling to establish their position.

Here are a few of the biggest updates since the Inflaton Reduction Act was passed.

• Hyundai, which was already planning to build EVs in the US, is reportedly considering speeding up the timeline and may start construction on its dedicated EV plant in Georgia later this year rather than waiting until 2023.
• Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz signed agreements to source EV battery raw materials from Canada. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau were both in attendance at the historic signing.
• Mercedes-Benz said it will be sourcing 10,000 tons of lithium from Rock Tech, a Canadian mining company.
• Honda is forming a joint venture with LG Energy. The JV is investing $4.4 billion into a new US battery plant that expects a 40 GWh annual capacity.

After climate bill passes, automakers race to make EV batteries in the US

Just two weeks after President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act (also known as the climate bill) into law, we are already seeing the positive effects ripple through the US economy. Global automakers are racing to source and assemble EV components in the US as new tax incentives from the...

electrek.co

 

[Stoneworker]

And more EV supply chain deals for North America (all since IRA passed)...

Japan’s Honda Motor and Korea’s LG Energy Solution, a major supplier of EV batteries, today (Aug. 29) announced a plan to build a $4.4 billion battery factory in the U.S. The exact location wasn’t disclosed, but the Wall Street Journal reported it will be somewhere in Ohio.

Panasonic is in discussion to build a $4 billion EV battery plant in Oklahoma, the Wall Street Journal reported on Aug. 26. The Japanese company, which supplies batteries to Tesla, announced in July it’s building a similar-sized factory in Kansas.

Tesla is reportedly considering opening a Gigafactory in Canada. CEO Elon Musk hinted at the plan during a company meeting in June.

Biden’s Climate Bill Is Accelerating the Pace of Electric Vehicle Makers Relocating to North America

Volkswagen, Mercedes and Honda are among the EV makers that have announced deals to build battery factories in the U.S. since the Inflation Reduction Act took effect.

observer.com

 

[joffer]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

 

[FairWarning]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

 

[ekbeats]

The issue with nuclear seems to always come back to fear planted into the public and not coincidently, seems to be coming form those who benefit from non-nuclear options.

I think it's more based on disasters like Chernobyl than anything the media does.

We had one of the worst possible scenarios and we somehow survived it. The United Nations, in its 2016 report, states that only 54 people died. We all know that's BS, but when you look at the big picture, the positives and negative's and the problems with the alternatives, I don't think there's any other logical choice right now. And in 50 years when we figure out nuclear fusion, we can deconstruct all the nuclear power plants and not have to do so in 110 degree weather.

 

[BladeRunner]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

He's telling other people how to live.

 

[stlrams]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

My point which you don’t address is that without China and India we can’t solve the problem hence my useless statement.

 

[joffer]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

My point which you don’t address is that without China and India we can’t solve the problem hence my useless statement.

you’re statement implies that unless we “solve” it, we can’t help it, which is absurd.

 

[joffer]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

oh bless your heart. if you really want to go there, I’ll engage. you sure? want to compare carbon footprints?

 

[FairWarning]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

My point which you don’t address is that without China and India we can’t solve the problem hence my useless statement.

you’re statement implies that unless we “solve” it, we can’t help it, which is absurd.

Of course we can help it. Until we cut our reliance on foreign goods, it’s not going to do a lot of good. it also doesn’t do a lot of good of China and India are not on board.

 

[BladeRunner]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

oh bless your heart. if you really want to go there, I’ll engage. you sure? want to compare carbon footprints?

For sure! How big are your virtues?

I feel like you've been waiting for someone to ask this entire time so you could bring it up.

 

[FairWarning]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

oh bless your heart. if you really want to go there, I’ll engage. you sure? want to compare carbon footprints?

For sure! How big are your virtues?

I feel like you've been waiting for someone to ask this entire time so you could bring it up.

He was springing the big Gotcha Trap.

I’m doing my thing, driving my 10 MPG delivery truck around.

 

[FairWarning]

At least I can drive it around all weekend. Better than what California has going on for the holiday if they own a electric car.

 

[quick-hands]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

but we aren't. but China is happy to sell us all the batteries we need.

 

[FairWarning]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

but we aren't. but China is happy to sell us all the batteries we need.

They are getting shipped on green-powered boats I bet.

 

[FairWarning]

Let’s make a list of who isn’t going green this weekend.

- china
- india
- Tim S
- California policy makers
- Congress

Enjoy the climate change.

 

[quick-hands]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

oh bless your heart. if you really want to go there, I’ll engage. you sure? want to compare carbon footprints?

oh please do. what is your foot print

 

[stlrams]

Let’s make a list of who isn’t going green this weekend.

- china
- india
- Tim S
- California policy makers
- Congress

Enjoy the climate change.

Add in Hollywood elites that rail about climate change then jet off in their private Lear.

 

[stlrams]

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

We’re #2 on CO2

Meanwhile in China - https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564908052985384963?s=21&t=-Eh4gngD5C-9Qh9NnE1kXg

Thought I read that between India and China, one new coal fired plan is being built every month.

I saw that also.

Looks like they are fully onboard with this whole environmental thing, no

Can’t solve global warming without the 2 biggest polluters slowing down.

So we should just give up because a couple of other countries aren't all in?
Seems like the solution would be for us to lead on renewables and become the country that shows others how much better and cheaper renewable energy is for all. Or we can just continue burning oil, race to the bottom, and speed up climate change.

Our efforts are useless unless China and India clean up their act. Lead on renewables? Since when did the United States lead on renewables ?

we’re the 2nd biggest emitter. Any improvement we make is not “useless”. We’re also responsible for the majority of the CO2 already up there. It’s mostly our fault. Take some responsibility.

What are you doing to make things better?

oh bless your heart. if you really want to go there, I’ll engage. you sure? want to compare carbon footprints?

oh please do. what is your foot print

I already had this discussion with him in gas price thread. He made the comment that he hopes for $10 gas because his family is all electric. I said what about the little guy that can’t afford 50k Tesla, charging station, solar panels etc, what’s his options? Nothing. The reality is the top 10% of Americans have the financial power to go green and the other 90% are stuck.

 

[Sabertooth]

Nobody is going to do anything. It's already too late anyway. We are over hear bickering about Trump lol, and the world is on fire. Many will laugh but I shudder to think what this world is going to look like in 2050 or 2100.

 

[RCon]

We’re #2 on CO2

And still higher than China or India when measured per capita.

 

[FairWarning]

We’re #2 on CO2

And still higher than China or India when measured per capita.

If China can make Doritos, they may pass us.

 

[BladeRunner]

Nobody is going to do anything. It's already too late anyway. We are over hear bickering about Trump lol, and the world is on fire. Many will laugh but I shudder to think what this world is going to look like in 2050 or 2100.

Okay Chicken Little.

 

[BladeRunner]

Let’s make a list of who isn’t going green this weekend.

- china
- india
- Tim S
- California policy makers
- Congress

Enjoy the climate change.

Add in Hollywood elites that rail about climate change then jet off in their private Lear.

Exactly! Al Gore has made a billion dollars grifting the little guy while he does nothing. You see, he wants YOU to make that change - the 1%? They get to keep their private jets, multiple 20K+ square foot mansions and fleets of vehicles.

 

[FairWarning]

How can you tell If someone is driving electric? You can’t, they’ll tell you

 

[Sabertooth]

Nobody is going to do anything. It's already too late anyway. We are over hear bickering about Trump lol, and the world is on fire. Many will laugh but I shudder to think what this world is going to look like in 2050 or 2100.

Okay Chicken Little.

You are wrong about almost every single thing you post so I take your flippant attitude as almost certain proof we are in deep trouble climate wise. You are uncanny how wrong most of your stances are.

That said may I ask you which team isn’t going to win the super bowl this year? Asking for myself.

 

[BladeRunner]

Nobody is going to do anything. It's already too late anyway. We are over hear bickering about Trump lol, and the world is on fire. Many will laugh but I shudder to think what this world is going to look like in 2050 or 2100.

Okay Chicken Little.

You are wrong about almost every single thing you post so I take your flippant attitude as almost certain proof we are in deep trouble climate wise. You are uncanny how wrong most of your stances are.

That said may I ask you which team isn’t going to win the super bowl this year? Asking for myself.

Yeah, we've seen your posts. I'm not the one who is wrong.

Most assuredly the drama queens are always wrong.

 

[Schmeabs]

I’m no nuclear expert. I don’t really get the science, never have. Don’t ask me what to do about nuclear accidents and nuclear waste: I have no idea and I know these are real concerns. But here is what I DO know, or think I know:

1. We need to find an alternative to oil and coal or we’re ####ed. That’s the basic message of climate change.

2. None of the proposed liberal alternative energy sources- solar, wind, water- pay for themselves. Maybe they will someday but they don’t.

3. At least in theory, nuclear pays for itself. And nuclear fusion, if we ever develop it, would do more than pay for itself- it would essentially solve all of our energy needs. It would create incredible prosperity, and change all of our lives for the better. It wouldn’t be the answer to all of life’s problems but it pretty much would be the answer to all of life’s problems.

4. Promoting nuclear energy is going to take a huge monetary investment. Private firms won’t do it, insurance won’t cover it. It’s going to have to be a government investment like the space program.

5. As a general rule conservatives are more friendly to promoting nuclear energy than liberals are. Liberals and especially green types appear to be emotional and irrational IMO in their opposition. Yet as enthusiastic as conservatives tend to be, no major Republican politicians that I’m aware of has offered specific proposals. Certainly not for the big government investment that will be necessary.


Thoughts?

I don't see an urgent need to change anything.

 

[John123]

The Feds suddenly think Nuclear matters:

EPA head: Advanced nuke tech key to mitigate climate change

The head of the U.S. Environment Protection Agency says advanced nuclear technology will be “critical” for both the United States and Japan as they step up cooperation to meet decarbonization goals.

apnews.com

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

The Feds suddenly think Nuclear matters:

EPA head: Advanced nuke tech key to mitigate climate change

The head of the U.S. Environment Protection Agency says advanced nuclear technology will be “critical” for both the United States and Japan as they step up cooperation to meet decarbonization goals.

apnews.com

Nuclear energy is currently 19% of the U.S. energy mix. They actually plan to decrease that to 12% by 2050, which is a miss IMO. They are counting on renewables to provide 40% of the energy mix by then, double what it currently provides. What makes more sense to me would be to have both of those categories at 30%, which would allow a more reasonable growth target for renewables. Hopefully the advanced nuclear technology they’re referring to in the article makes that more feasible.

The US has plenty of places that don’t deal with earthquakes, which is a major issue for Japan obviously. They are aiming for a 20% contribution of nuclear to their mix, per the article.

 

[John123]

Baby steps, but exciting anyways.....

Korean nuclear fusion reactor achieves 100 million°C for 30 seconds

A sustained, stable experiment is the latest demonstration that nuclear fusion is moving from being a physics problem to an engineering one

www.newscientist.com

 

[The Commish]

Since we are buying our solar panels, batteries, and other crap from China, we’re screwed.

Point of clarification.....China is behind Malaysia, Vietnam, SK, Thailand, Turkey, Mexico, Singapore etc. China is lumped into the "other" category most of the time.

 

[dschuler]

I think if we are going to have increase our nuclear energy capacity we need rules/regulations. I also think nuclear energy should be run free of profit motives.

Yeah, I'm not saying we have no regulation. I'm saying all the regulation that does exist (and there's a ton....most of which sparked by uneducated fear IMO) needs to be revisited and paired down.

THIS. My #1 pet peeve with nuclear projects is when we discuss how to do XYZ, and someone says what’s the safest or most conservative way to do it? The safest thing would be to do nothing, everything after that involves a level of risk. I can’t stand that mentality, and it’s been my career goal in the field as I get more senior to get rid of it and change the mindset of junior people who think this way. Unfortunately, there is such a cloud over the industry, especially in this country, that I am skeptical anything will be done on a federal level anytime soon.

As far as regulations for nuclear permits and bringing more reactors online, I think legislatures who are told to oppose nuclear power will continuously call for an unlimited amount of engineering, environmental, and other evaluations to hold the process up indefinitely. It doesn’t matter to them how safe or effective it may be, what matters to them is that the nuclear pie is getting smaller because that’s what they are told to do.

It amazes me that 20 year old kids have maintained several hundred nuclear reactors over the last 60 years, traveling hundreds of millions of miles in the process and avoiding any nuclear accidents, even when ships/subs have gotten into collisions and taken significant battle damage. The fact the federal government allows this risk, but does not allow more experienced plant operators to operate in a fixed facility is mind boggling.

I’ve actually reached out to people in an effort to create an infinite distilled water system that could refill the Ogallala aquifer or the entire state of California or Lake Mead, but I’ve realized old people in power are too comfortable making their living off “the system” rather than to look at problem solving and change. Eventually, the west coast will have to make a decision to make fresh water, but California is treating Water as a commodity like Oil rather than a necessity.

Three Mile Island was the greatest thing to ever happen to the Fossil Fuel industry. The subsequent fear, panic, and overreaction that capped our potential energy output easily set civilization back fifty years or more IMO. We would already have fixed mass transportation and phased out gas cars with an unlimited energy capacity that can only currently be offered by a form of nuclear.

Nuclear Power is the one topic where extreme environmental progressives and price gouging oil loving far right republicans passionately team together to vehemently undermine something because it’s a threat to both of their status quo.

 

[The Commish]

I think if we are going to have increase our nuclear energy capacity we need rules/regulations. I also think nuclear energy should be run free of profit motives.

Yeah, I'm not saying we have no regulation. I'm saying all the regulation that does exist (and there's a ton....most of which sparked by uneducated fear IMO) needs to be revisited and paired down.

THIS. My #1 pet peeve with nuclear projects is when we discuss how to do XYZ, and someone says what’s the safest or most conservative way to do it? The safest thing would be to do nothing, everything after that involves a level of risk. I can’t stand that mentality, and it’s been my career goal in the field as I get more senior to get rid of it and change the mindset of junior people who think this way. Unfortunately, there is such a cloud over the industry, especially in this country, that I am skeptical anything will be done on a federal level anytime soon.

It amazes me that 20 year old kids have maintained several hundred nuclear reactors over the last 60 years, traveling hundreds of millions of miles in the process and avoiding any nuclear accidents, even when ships/subs have gotten into collisions and taken significant battle damage. The fact the federal government allows this risk, but does not allow more experienced plant operators to operate in a fixed facility is mind boggling.

I’ve actually reached out to people in an effort to create an infinite distilled water system that could refill the Ogallala aquifer or the entire state of California or Lake Mead, but I’ve realized old people in power are too comfortable making their living off “the system” rather than to look at problem solving and change. Eventually, the west coast will have to make a decision to make fresh water, but California is treating Water as a commodity like Oil rather than a necessity.

Three Mile Island was the greatest thing to ever happen to the Fossil Fuel industry. The subsequent fear, panic, and overreaction that capped our potential energy output easily set civilization back fifty years or more IMO. We would already have fixed mass transportation and phased out gas cars with an unlimited energy capacity that can only currently be offered by a form of nuclear.

 

[Rubiobot]

I think if we are going to have increase our nuclear energy capacity we need rules/regulations. I also think nuclear energy should be run free of profit motives.

Yeah, I'm not saying we have no regulation. I'm saying all the regulation that does exist (and there's a ton....most of which sparked by uneducated fear IMO) needs to be revisited and paired down.

THIS. My #1 pet peeve with nuclear projects is when we discuss how to do XYZ, and someone says what’s the safest or most conservative way to do it? The safest thing would be to do nothing, everything after that involves a level of risk. I can’t stand that mentality, and it’s been my career goal in the field as I get more senior to get rid of it and change the mindset of junior people who think this way. Unfortunately, there is such a cloud over the industry, especially in this country, that I am skeptical anything will be done on a federal level anytime soon.

As far as regulations for nuclear permits and bringing more reactors online, I think legislatures who are told to oppose nuclear power will continuously call for an unlimited amount of engineering, environmental, and other evaluations to hold the process up indefinitely. It doesn’t matter to them how safe or effective it may be, what matters to them is that the nuclear pie is getting smaller because that’s what they are told to do.

It amazes me that 20 year old kids have maintained several hundred nuclear reactors over the last 60 years, traveling hundreds of millions of miles in the process and avoiding any nuclear accidents, even when ships/subs have gotten into collisions and taken significant battle damage. The fact the federal government allows this risk, but does not allow more experienced plant operators to operate in a fixed facility is mind boggling.

I’ve actually reached out to people in an effort to create an infinite distilled water system that could refill the Ogallala aquifer or the entire state of California or Lake Mead, but I’ve realized old people in power are too comfortable making their living off “the system” rather than to look at problem solving and change. Eventually, the west coast will have to make a decision to make fresh water, but California is treating Water as a commodity like Oil rather than a necessity.

Three Mile Island was the greatest thing to ever happen to the Fossil Fuel industry. The subsequent fear, panic, and overreaction that capped our potential energy output easily set civilization back fifty years or more IMO. We would already have fixed mass transportation and phased out gas cars with an unlimited energy capacity that can only currently be offered by a form of nuclear.

Nuclear Power is the one topic where extreme environmental progressives and price gouging oil loving far right republicans passionately team together to vehemently undermine something because it’s a threat to both of their status quo.

This is one of the best posts I've ever seen here.

 

[timschochet]

I think if we are going to have increase our nuclear energy capacity we need rules/regulations. I also think nuclear energy should be run free of profit motives.

Yeah, I'm not saying we have no regulation. I'm saying all the regulation that does exist (and there's a ton....most of which sparked by uneducated fear IMO) needs to be revisited and paired down.

THIS. My #1 pet peeve with nuclear projects is when we discuss how to do XYZ, and someone says what’s the safest or most conservative way to do it? The safest thing would be to do nothing, everything after that involves a level of risk. I can’t stand that mentality, and it’s been my career goal in the field as I get more senior to get rid of it and change the mindset of junior people who think this way. Unfortunately, there is such a cloud over the industry, especially in this country, that I am skeptical anything will be done on a federal level anytime soon.

As far as regulations for nuclear permits and bringing more reactors online, I think legislatures who are told to oppose nuclear power will continuously call for an unlimited amount of engineering, environmental, and other evaluations to hold the process up indefinitely. It doesn’t matter to them how safe or effective it may be, what matters to them is that the nuclear pie is getting smaller because that’s what they are told to do.

It amazes me that 20 year old kids have maintained several hundred nuclear reactors over the last 60 years, traveling hundreds of millions of miles in the process and avoiding any nuclear accidents, even when ships/subs have gotten into collisions and taken significant battle damage. The fact the federal government allows this risk, but does not allow more experienced plant operators to operate in a fixed facility is mind boggling.

I’ve actually reached out to people in an effort to create an infinite distilled water system that could refill the Ogallala aquifer or the entire state of California or Lake Mead, but I’ve realized old people in power are too comfortable making their living off “the system” rather than to look at problem solving and change. Eventually, the west coast will have to make a decision to make fresh water, but California is treating Water as a commodity like Oil rather than a necessity.

Three Mile Island was the greatest thing to ever happen to the Fossil Fuel industry. The subsequent fear, panic, and overreaction that capped our potential energy output easily set civilization back fifty years or more IMO. We would already have fixed mass transportation and phased out gas cars with an unlimited energy capacity that can only currently be offered by a form of nuclear.

Nuclear Power is the one topic where extreme environmental progressives and price gouging oil loving far right republicans passionately team together to vehemently undermine something because it’s a threat to both of their status quo.

Others have said it but really a tremendous post.

 

[joffer]

I think if we are going to have increase our nuclear energy capacity we need rules/regulations. I also think nuclear energy should be run free of profit motives.

Yeah, I'm not saying we have no regulation. I'm saying all the regulation that does exist (and there's a ton....most of which sparked by uneducated fear IMO) needs to be revisited and paired down.

THIS. My #1 pet peeve with nuclear projects is when we discuss how to do XYZ, and someone says what’s the safest or most conservative way to do it? The safest thing would be to do nothing, everything after that involves a level of risk. I can’t stand that mentality, and it’s been my career goal in the field as I get more senior to get rid of it and change the mindset of junior people who think this way. Unfortunately, there is such a cloud over the industry, especially in this country, that I am skeptical anything will be done on a federal level anytime soon.

As far as regulations for nuclear permits and bringing more reactors online, I think legislatures who are told to oppose nuclear power will continuously call for an unlimited amount of engineering, environmental, and other evaluations to hold the process up indefinitely. It doesn’t matter to them how safe or effective it may be, what matters to them is that the nuclear pie is getting smaller because that’s what they are told to do.

It amazes me that 20 year old kids have maintained several hundred nuclear reactors over the last 60 years, traveling hundreds of millions of miles in the process and avoiding any nuclear accidents, even when ships/subs have gotten into collisions and taken significant battle damage. The fact the federal government allows this risk, but does not allow more experienced plant operators to operate in a fixed facility is mind boggling.

I’ve actually reached out to people in an effort to create an infinite distilled water system that could refill the Ogallala aquifer or the entire state of California or Lake Mead, but I’ve realized old people in power are too comfortable making their living off “the system” rather than to look at problem solving and change. Eventually, the west coast will have to make a decision to make fresh water, but California is treating Water as a commodity like Oil rather than a necessity.

Three Mile Island was the greatest thing to ever happen to the Fossil Fuel industry. The subsequent fear, panic, and overreaction that capped our potential energy output easily set civilization back fifty years or more IMO. We would already have fixed mass transportation and phased out gas cars with an unlimited energy capacity that can only currently be offered by a form of nuclear.

Nuclear Power is the one topic where extreme environmental progressives and price gouging oil loving far right republicans passionately team together to vehemently undermine something because it’s a threat to both of their status quo.

yeah good post. I’m a big nuclear fan. We should be investing in Gen4 technologies hand over fist. It will require a lot of regulation, but it will be worth it.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Any concern about putting radioactive spent rods in the earth?