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Is Rohan Davey a good sleeper? (1 Viewer)
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Boston
Footballguy
I'd be shocked if he ends up as their #2. Having seen him play I can definetly say that he's just not good. He did not develop at all under BB/Weis and the Pats. There's really not much he does well although he is well liked by his teammates. One think you'll notice very quickly with him is there's a gap between him deciding to do something and actually doing it. The game does not come naturally to him.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Dude has slept through alll his opportunity thus far, so I say yes, great sleeper.
Slinger
Footballguy
I'm in the school of thought that he's not. From what I've read he just doesn't have what it takes to become a good QB in this league. I think he originally caught the avid Fantasy Football player's attention by backing up Tom Brady and the Patriots.Reading between the lines, Rohan Davey is not a good second option?I agree, but what does this have to do with Rohan Davey?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
FWIW, I've given up on him and I usually take a while to give up on a guy I really like. (I still think Jason Thomas could have been a great NFL QB) 
NFLE MVP or just a real good year over there one year. They have some excellent QB coaches and apparently it was yet another great coaching job.I'm in the school of thought that he's not. From what I've read he just doesn't have what it takes to become a good QB in this league. I think he originally caught the avid Fantasy Football player's attention by backing up Tom Brady and the Patriots.Reading between the lines, Rohan Davey is not a good second option?I agree, but what does this have to do with Rohan Davey?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
After your PDSL selections, I take all your QB recommendations with a lot of grains of salt.FWIW, I've given up on him and I usually take a while to give up on a guy I really like. (I still think Jason Thomas could have been a great NFL QB)
Navarre is the clear 2 at this point out in the desert.Look for them to probably draft someone late first day / early second day to groom for the 2/3 role.
Vet QBs without homes may also wind up in AZ (Collins, Harrington, etc.)
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Slinger
Footballguy
That's right, I forgot about that. That's when his value was at the highest, then he went over to the Patriots camp and stunk up the joint.NFLE MVP or just a real good year over there one year.I'm in the school of thought that he's not. From what I've read he just doesn't have what it takes to become a good QB in this league. I think he originally caught the avid Fantasy Football player's attention by backing up Tom Brady and the Patriots.Reading between the lines, Rohan Davey is not a good second option?I agree, but what does this have to do with Rohan Davey?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Well, I offered Bass the sig bet that Nall outscores his 3rd QB. He declined. You up for it?After your PDSL selections, I take all your QB recommendations with a lot of grains of salt.FWIW, I've given up on him and I usually take a while to give up on a guy I really like. (I still think Jason Thomas could have been a great NFL QB)
Look for them to probably draft someone late first day / early second day to groom for the 2/3 role.
Vet QBs without homes may also wind up in AZ (Collins, Harrington, etc.)
David Yudkin
Footballguy
From what I've seen, the pecking order in ARI is Warner, Navarre, then Davey and the Cards could add someone else in the draft. I would not hold out a lot of hope that Davey will be counted on by the Cardinals this year (and may not even stick with the team).
Sanboy
Footballguy
Davey = came out of college with raw upside
DAvey in N.E never got to play for good reason mind you .. LOl .... went to europe had a bust out season in NFLE when given playing time
came back to N.E with what i read a new approach ... which B.B openly critizized and ven went as far as saying he would never said a QB over to NFLE again because his guy went over being able to read defenses and came back a "free lancer" from that piont on you started to see Davey FALL on the depth charts
he gets stuck at # 3 ... they draft Cassel .. he is then given the # 4 job at the start of camp .. behind a QB that hasnt thrown a pass in years .. the only time N.E gave him last training camp was mop up duty in one 4 th quarter and then they waived him
Davey needs to get back into shape ...
If you read the arizona boards and paper . Davey is back to playing shape and has had almost a full year studying the playbook
now i dont think he ever becomes a stud ... BUT he might one day get a chance .. and a chance is all he needs to show something .. what he does with that something . who knows...
DAvey in N.E never got to play for good reason mind you .. LOl .... went to europe had a bust out season in NFLE when given playing time
came back to N.E with what i read a new approach ... which B.B openly critizized and ven went as far as saying he would never said a QB over to NFLE again because his guy went over being able to read defenses and came back a "free lancer" from that piont on you started to see Davey FALL on the depth charts
he gets stuck at # 3 ... they draft Cassel .. he is then given the # 4 job at the start of camp .. behind a QB that hasnt thrown a pass in years .. the only time N.E gave him last training camp was mop up duty in one 4 th quarter and then they waived him
Davey needs to get back into shape ...
If you read the arizona boards and paper . Davey is back to playing shape and has had almost a full year studying the playbook
now i dont think he ever becomes a stud ... BUT he might one day get a chance .. and a chance is all he needs to show something .. what he does with that something . who knows...
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Stick a fork in him.
ren hoek
Footballguy
It doesn't take a good quarterback to play with WRs like what the Cardinals have. Anyone who bore the label of "Arizona Starting QB" last year belonged on a fantasy roster, and that doesn't change with Davey. If Warner went down and R-Dave became the guy, he would most definitely have value. If it turns out that he's the #2 quarterback, he should probably be one of the first back-up QBs (real life back-ups, not fantasy league back-ups) taken.
I don't know why people are so quick to write this guy off.
I don't know why people are so quick to write this guy off.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Because Navarre is the #2, and Davey the #3. That's not going to change unless they bring in another guy, which will push Davey down another notch. I love board guys who remain in denial. Davey will never be a starting QB. He's closer to being out of the league than he is to ever starting.
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ren hoek
Footballguy
Do you really need to be this condescending to prove your point? I'm in denial? What exactly am I in denial of?He's barely had an opportunity to even start dude. It wasn't long ago that Bulger was an unheard of 3rd-stringer, who sat behind Jamie Martin, who sucks. And until Davey gets a chance to throw more than 10 passes in an NFL season, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Things change when the bullets start flying, and so far, Davey has been successful with every opportunity he's been given.
I'm sure you would have said the same thing about Kurt Warner with the Rams and Delhomme in NFL Europe only a few years ago, so BTFU.
Boston
Footballguy
As someone who has seen Davey in action I can honestly say he's horrible. If possible he regressed while wearing a Pats uniform. While I know this is based on just preseason it's also based on watching him play against other teams scrubs as well as first teamers. There's nothing about him that is is translating to the pros. He has bad footwork, is not accurate and most of all is incredibly slow when it comes to making a decision and than executing it. I was rooting as hard as hell for the guy while he was with the Pats but have no problem saying his play was simply abysmal and I saw literally no upside to him. When he came back from Europe many were excited but that vanished very quickly. The Pats had no problem dumping him even though they invested three years in trying to develop him. The fact he lost out to a player who wasn't even a starter in college and was raw as hell last preseason shows that the Pats truly had given up on him. Anything is possible but I would be truly shocked if Davey ever amounts to anything in the NFL.
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I've watched Davey struggle with the Pats offense for a few years and based on his talent see no reason to support him. It's not that we're him writing off, it's just as it stands now he's the #2 QB at best. At worst, he's #3 or maybe cut. There's probably 45 other QBs I would consider before him, unless I was a Warner owner. If I owned Warner then it makes more sense to draft him as insurance, if he's the clear cut #2 going into the season.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I thought for sure he would do that. Dropped him soon after.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Hey DTM,Yes, it would've been better to leave that 'in denial' comment out. Sorry about that.
ren hoek
Footballguy
Davey has attempted, at the most, 10 NFL passes in any given season. He could be successful IF he ended up securing the #2 spot behind Warner, and subsequently got an opportunity to start if Warner was injured.
And the statement that I don't understand why people are so quick to write him off was based on his potential fantasy value. Not his potential to become a great NFL quarterback. I thought I had made it clear that my argument hinged on whether or not he actually ends up winning the back-up job.
And the statement that I don't understand why people are so quick to write him off was based on his potential fantasy value. Not his potential to become a great NFL quarterback. I thought I had made it clear that my argument hinged on whether or not he actually ends up winning the back-up job.
Sanboy
Footballguy
to bring up the SABAN thing ..
please go back in the blogger or rotoworld . and you will see SABAN actually had a meeting set up with DAVEY to discuss a deal ... BUT ARIZONA came calling with a contract and he took the first contract that came his way ...
i even watched a SABAN press conference on the dolphins web site during that time last year . when saban discussed he was upset he wasnt able t get Davey under contract in time
so that argument doesnt hold much water with me
please go back in the blogger or rotoworld . and you will see SABAN actually had a meeting set up with DAVEY to discuss a deal ... BUT ARIZONA came calling with a contract and he took the first contract that came his way ...
i even watched a SABAN press conference on the dolphins web site during that time last year . when saban discussed he was upset he wasnt able t get Davey under contract in time
so that argument doesnt hold much water with me
I was basing my opinion on a compilation of Davey's preseason, training camp and actual starting experience. Yes, I misunderstood your prior posts. My bad. Yes, if Davey secures the #2 spot, and got the chance to start if Warner is injured, then yes, he would have fantasy value. You'd probably agree though that there's half a dozen backups in the league that we could say that about.Davey has attempted, at the most, 10 NFL passes in any given season. He could be successful IF he ended up securing the #2 spot behind Warner, and subsequently got an opportunity to start if Warner was injured.
And the statement that I don't understand why people are so quick to write him off was based on his potential fantasy value. Not his potential to become a great NFL quarterback. I thought I had made it clear that my argument hinged on whether or not he actually ends up winning the back-up job.
Slinger
Footballguy
Of course SABAN "discussed a deal" with his former QB DAVEY. It's more PR than anything. If SABAN really wanted DAVEY he WOULD'VE got him, but in all ACTUALITY he didn't want him because he SUCKS. It's total coach speak. He wasn't upset that he didn't get DAVEY. Bank on that.I'm 99 percent sure that Davey will not be the 2nd string QB for the Cardinals come opening day. I'm not even sure why I'm leaving the 1 percent out. Heck I'm not even certain he'll make the roster, he sucks so bad.
It's only April and the Cardinals are looking for another QB because they don't have confident in DAVEY.
If you want to stash him on your roster, fine, but don't try to convinced the masses that it's a good idea.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Navarre was the Qb DaKnee Green picked to develop and he has stuck with him over McCown who was erratic but has shown much more potential than Davey has.
If your looking for a deep value Qb who could emerge due to the high chance of Warner getting injured then I think you should look at Navarre not Davey.
That being said Navarre was and probobly still is a pretty raw prospect at Qb and it would not suprise me at all if Arizona adds another Qb in free agency (Kerry Collins?) or the draft.
If your looking for a deep value Qb who could emerge due to the high chance of Warner getting injured then I think you should look at Navarre not Davey.
That being said Navarre was and probobly still is a pretty raw prospect at Qb and it would not suprise me at all if Arizona adds another Qb in free agency (Kerry Collins?) or the draft.
Sanboy
Footballguy
you missed the whole piont of the original poster .. he was looking for a deep young guy sleeper that could come out of no where ... DAvey at 27 on a team with a shaky QB position .. is as good of a long shot as any i wouldnt ever trade for Davey .. but to pick him up for free.. why not
my comments were just information nothing more .. but people saying " he sucks" .. and " he is terrible " .. and the vast knowledge that they have is 1 or 2 pass attempts.. just makes them ignorant .. you cant judge anything like that
i watched Davey for 3 years at LSU .. so my knowledge of watching him was actually during games and years .. n ot just 2 pass's in the 4 th quarter of a game with scrubs
ren hoek
Footballguy
I have to disagree here. I definitely remember Saban commenting during training camp about how, paraphrasing, 'neither Frerotte or Feeley seem intent on winning the job.'Even though their QB situation was bad when Davey was available, you have to agree that Saban being disappointed that he missed out on him is completely different from the implication in this thread that the Dolphins had no interest in him whatsoever.
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