Is There A CB Playing Better In The League Right Now ... (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

This is not a homer post. Honestly. But I'm not sure there's a CB playing better ball in the league right now than Woodson. I was at the game yesterday and the job he did on Reggie Wayne was nothing short of spectacular. I'm not sure if they talked about it or showed it on TV but Woodson completely took Wayne out of the game plan with his blanket coverage. Wherever Wayne went, Woodson followed. I mentioned in the thread about the Jets WRs vs. Oakland this week that it's never made sense to me how a team just lines their top CB on one side of the field and leaves him there, allowing offenses to dictate where they can get the ball to their best WR(s). The Packers didn't do that yesterday. They made sure that Woodson was on Wayne regardless of which side of the field Wayne was on or if he was split wide or in the slot.

Manning didn't even look in Wayne's direction for much of the game. I don't recall too many games where the Colts have basically conceded and allowed their top WR to be taken out of the game that easily. It was extremely impressive.

From a fantasy perspective, this is definitely something to keep an eye on the rest of when it comes to WR projections against Green Bay. I'm not saying you sit the likes of Reggie Wayne against anyone but if you have a good WR going against Woodson you may need to lower your expectations. And if you have an OK WR going against him, you may want to find another option. The guy is playing at a lights-out level right now.

 

[Art Vandalay]

He's been the best corner in League for a while. He was hur tin Oakland for a bit and everyone got Down on him. Last year he got snubbed from the Pro-Bowl and has managed to take his game to another level now yet again. And he's doing it all playing hurt. He only has a couple years left and is still sour about losing the SuperBowl.

 

[Lash]

well since you were at the game and didn't see the TV replays ... he was practically holding onto RWayne every play

reminded me of the early-this-decade NE Patriots DB's grab and hold techniques

thought they outlawed that?

one time he even got beat on a slant and slipped and deliberately grabbed Wayne to get a pass interference on purpose to avoid a possible TD ... no call

not saying he isn't playing very well but not sure if he gets a different set of refs (like when he gave up 132/1 to Roddy White in week 5) that there aren't several better CB's in the league

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I'm hoping his toe gets a little better over the bye.

 

[MCguidance]

I know I am in the minority here, and my homerism aside, but Darrelle Revis is quitely becoming the corner the Jets drafted him to be. In only his second season, he has really done a great job. He was quoted last year that he didn't really know what he was doing, that he was playing on instinct. The ceiling is very high for this kid.

Woodson is a great corner, no doubt. I think he has a couple high performance years left. Corners like him are such an asset to have on defense, thet effectively almost take a away a side of the field on passing downs.

 

[packersfan]

Woodson is a great corner, no doubt. I think he has a couple high performance years left. Corners like him are such an asset to have on defense, thet effectively almost take a away a side of the field on passing downs.

Taking away a side of the field is nice, but taking away a WR is much more impressive in my opinion. That's what Woodson did to Wayne yesterday (and to Bobby Engram the week before as well). Again I'll ask when was the last time we saw the Colts just give up and not even try to get the ball to their top WR? How often has that ever happened? But that's exactly what Manning did yesterday. He refused to even try to get the ball to Wayne for much of the game because Woodson wouldn't let him. The Colts moved Wayne around but it didn't matter; Woodson was there every time and that played a critical role in Green Bay's victory.

 

[Manasseh]

Was Nnamdi Asomugha on Cotchery all day yesterday? Or is there another reason why Cotch sucked so bad?

I would think Asomugha has to be mentioned in any conversation of greatest CB.

(Unfortunately for me, I have Wayne and Cotch on my team...)

 

[MCguidance]

Woodson is a great corner, no doubt. I think he has a couple high performance years left. Corners like him are such an asset to have on defense, thet effectively almost take a away a side of the field on passing downs.

Taking away a side of the field is nice, but taking away a WR is much more impressive in my opinion. That's what Woodson did to Wayne yesterday (and to Bobby Engram the week before as well). Again I'll ask when was the last time we saw the Colts just give up and not even try to get the ball to their top WR? How often has that ever happened? But that's exactly what Manning did yesterday. He refused to even try to get the ball to Wayne for much of the game because Woodson wouldn't let him. The Colts moved Wayne around but it didn't matter; Woodson was there every time and that played a critical role in Green Bay's victory.

Agreed - very impressive. I don't know when the last time that happened, to be honest. Probably only a handful of times with Wayne and Harrison in the last 10 years.

 

[sho nuff]

well since you were at the game and didn't see the TV replays ... he was practically holding onto RWayne every play

No...he really wasn't.

one time he even got beat on a slant and slipped and deliberately grabbed Wayne to get a pass interference on purpose to avoid a possible TD ... no call

Actually, if you watch the replay...he was illegally picked anyway...and even still never grabbed Wayne.

not saying he isn't playing very well but not sure if he gets a different set of refs (like when he gave up 132/1 to Roddy White in week 5) that there aren't several better CB's in the league

He was not always on White in that game for some reason. Williams was on him for at least one of the long plays the TD I think.

 

[jurrassic]

I don't think he is the frontrunner but I would think Woodson has to be in the top 5 right now for defensive player of the year.

 

[Sabertooth]

Woodson got hit by his own player on what would have been a pick as well. He's great. He's tough as nails and plays with great fire. Athletically he's not the gifted I don't think though.

 

[aldelgreco]

Was Nnamdi Asomugha on Cotchery all day yesterday? Or is there another reason why Cotch sucked so bad?I would think Asomugha has to be mentioned in any conversation of greatest CB. (Unfortunately for me, I have Wayne and Cotch on my team...)

No, he is always on the right hand side of the defense, so he just covered cotehery when he would split out left.I

 

[T Bell]

Carlos Rogers has seemingly come out of nowhere to play at an elite level for the Redskins this year. He belongs in the conversation too.

 

[ProBowler88]

as much as I love Michigan's Mr. Everything, I think Rashean Mathis is playing better ball.

 

[shims3]

Carlos Rogers has seemingly come out of nowhere to play at an elite level for the Redskins this year. He belongs in the conversation too.

I agree...after coming off a scary knee surgery, Rogers has been an elite corner.

 

[ImTheScientist]

well since you were at the game and didn't see the TV replays ... he was practically holding onto RWayne every play

No...he really wasn't.

one time he even got beat on a slant and slipped and deliberately grabbed Wayne to get a pass interference on purpose to avoid a possible TD ... no call

Actually, if you watch the replay...he was illegally picked anyway...and even still never grabbed Wayne.

The guy is a angry Colts fan or Wayne owner

 

[Buffaloes]

I think we can put Finnegan's name out there as well. He is one of the best CBs is run support right now too. If Denver had a better supporting cast, I would say Bailey too but I think he has to do too much right now to make up for the lapses by the safeties.

 

[sho nuff]

well since you were at the game and didn't see the TV replays ... he was practically holding onto RWayne every play

No...he really wasn't.

one time he even got beat on a slant and slipped and deliberately grabbed Wayne to get a pass interference on purpose to avoid a possible TD ... no call

Actually, if you watch the replay...he was illegally picked anyway...and even still never grabbed Wayne.

The guy is a angry Colts fan or Wayne owner

Probably...NFL network just keyed in on several plays.Woodson had a great jam on him at the line nearly every play. I think he got called for one hands to the face call early on.Hell...Woodson would have had an INT on the one deep ball to Wayne (into triple coverage).He was with Wayne step for step and was in front of him when the ball was coming down...Rouse just jumped in and took it instead.He also had the great undercut of a route where he about picked on off too.

 

[Lord Lucan]

It was almost comical watching Favre throwing the ball against Oakland yesterday. For most of the game, as soon as the ball was snapped, he swivelled his body 45 degrees to the right, so he could only possibly throw it to the middle or right; basically, on virtually every play he had no intention of even looking to see if the WR on his left (Asomugha's side) was open. He did throw a couple of short ones to that side late on (and even got a pass interference on Asomugha), but for most of the game the Jets, who usually throw much more to the left hand side than the right, ignored that side of the field. Coles normally lines up on the left-hand side, but every pass he caught yesterday, he lined up on the right. Cotchery got banged up early which is why he didn't produce much.

I didn't see the Packers game and can't comment on Woodson's performance (though he's looked good when I have seen him), but all I can say is that Woodson has four ints this year - there's no way Asomugha will get close to that because the entire league seems genuinely terrified of chucking it anywhere near him.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Woodson got hit by his own player on what would have been a pick as well. He's great. He's tough as nails and plays with great fire. Athletically he's not the gifted I don't think though.

As a Michigan fan having watched all of his college games, I disagree. Injuries in Oakland may have taken some of his athleticism away but he won the Heisman because he was the most athletic and best player on the field in every game he played.

 

[millertyme1]

He's definitely in the top 5 conversation for D player of the year. Great performance yesterday.

 

[Sabertooth]

Woodson got hit by his own player on what would have been a pick as well. He's great. He's tough as nails and plays with great fire. Athletically he's not the gifted I don't think though.

As a Michigan fan having watched all of his college games, I disagree. Injuries in Oakland may have taken some of his athleticism away but he won the Heisman because he was the most athletic and best player on the field in every game he played.

Took a while but :(

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Woodson got hit by his own player on what would have been a pick as well. He's great. He's tough as nails and plays with great fire. Athletically he's not the gifted I don't think though.

As a Michigan fan having watched all of his college games, I disagree. Injuries in Oakland may have taken some of his athleticism away but he won the Heisman because he was the most athletic and best player on the field in every game he played.

Took a while but

Wow. You need a life.

 

[Moe Green]

He's like a fine wine.

 

[ben4titans]

Courtland Finnegan???

 

[Sabertooth]

Woodson got hit by his own player on what would have been a pick as well. He's great. He's tough as nails and plays with great fire. Athletically he's not the gifted I don't think though.

As a Michigan fan having watched all of his college games, I disagree. Injuries in Oakland may have taken some of his athleticism away but he won the Heisman because he was the most athletic and best player on the field in every game he played.

Took a while but

Wow. You need a life.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Carlos Rogers has seemingly come out of nowhere to play at an elite level for the Redskins this year. He belongs in the conversation too.

I agree...after coming off a scary knee surgery, Rogers has been an elite corner.

Rogers is playing at an all-pro level right now. I never thought I would type those words.

 

[drew726]

Depends what you consider a good corner. For my money, I still think Nmandi Asomusgha is the best corner in the league. You don't hear his name much because no one throws to his side of the field. Of course in terms of fantasy football, he's completely useless, but I think he's the only shutdown corner left in the NFL.

 

[Thorpe]

Depends what you consider a good corner. For my money, I still think Nmandi Asomusgha is the best corner in the league. You don't hear his name much because no one throws to his side of the field. Of course in terms of fantasy football, he's completely useless, but I think he's the only shutdown corner left in the NFL.

I agree. The Bills tried it once, throwing to Lee Evans, and Nmandi wrapped him up and at the same time forced a fumble.

 

[enfuego]

I like Finnegan because of his versatility. He has the same number of picks as Woodson (4), but double the tackles (32) in a stout Titan D. That says to me he's very active....

 

[packersfan]

Depends what you consider a good corner.

I'd define it in part as being matched up on one of the game's premier WRs everywhere he went on the field and rendering him totally useless and removing him almost entirely from one of the league's most explosive passing attacks.

 

[Bri]

Finnegan for now. It'll be interesting to see him against the Colts WRs this week

 

[T Bell]

Depends what you consider a good corner.

I'd define it in part as being matched up on one of the game's premier WRs everywhere he went on the field and rendering him totally useless and removing him almost entirely from one of the league's most explosive passing attacks.

So being a good corner is like being Braylon Edwards' hands?

 

[massraider]

It's all a guess. Even if we wanted to focus on the CB play, we couldn't. The camera simply doesn't go there. When a guy has a good game, we hear about it.

Asomougha is finally getting his props, but is he playing that well, or is Hall simply easier pickings?

I always liked Woodson, nice to see him doing well. Finally matured.

 

[cheese]

Was Nnamdi Asomugha on Cotchery all day yesterday? Or is there another reason why Cotch sucked so bad?I would think Asomugha has to be mentioned in any conversation of greatest CB. (Unfortunately for me, I have Wayne and Cotch on my team...)

As someone else posted, I think he covers a side. Regardless, you're starting to see Asomugha get thrown at less and less... to the point where teams seem to be changing their entire game plan.

 

[PahtyTom]

Woodson has played very well since going to GB, but the best CB in the league last year and this year is Asomugha.

 

[JMJ]

Darrell Revis

 

[Assani Fisher]

Was Nnamdi Asomugha on Cotchery all day yesterday? Or is there another reason why Cotch sucked so bad?I would think Asomugha has to be mentioned in any conversation of greatest CB. (Unfortunately for me, I have Wayne and Cotch on my team...)

Asomugha and Champ Bailey are the best two in the league right now imo. I think Woodson is in the next tier. Springs when healthy also belongs in that tier.