Is there any question? 1st PICK (1 Viewer)

[Steelnation]

After 11 years of playing it has finally happened baby!!! First pick of the draft to Steelnation!!!!



So is there ANY question about who I should take?

Seriously, is ANYONE worthy of that pick other than LT?

12 team redraft

1 pt 10 rush/receive

6 pt TD

 

[shadyridr]

7 years and I still have never gotten a pick higher than 4. Just got 6 this year.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Well.... Steven Jackson isn't half bad himself and he is 4 years younger than Tomlinson (24 to 28). LT is the better player but he had the career year to end all career years in 2006. If he scores under 30 touchdowns it'll seem like a disappointment.

Usually when a player plays that great a letdown the next season is almost inevitable. People will say there's no way that happens to LT. But they probably felt the same way about Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper in 2005, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice in 1996, and Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis in 1999. When you're at the top there's nowhere else to go but down. Most of the time.

With all that being said if I have the #1 pick I'd probably take LT. If I could trade it for Steven Jackson (#2 pick) and something else I'd strongly consider it. It's important to not fall in love with any one player no matter who it is. Think with your head, not with your heart.

 

[compreal]

After 11 years of playing it has finally happened baby!!! First pick of the draft to Steelnation!!!! So is there ANY question about who I should take?Seriously, is ANYONE worthy of that pick other than LT?

i got #1 overall this year and obviously i'm going LT.the other thing i'm considering is trading draft spots with the 6th or 7th overall pick. my price for the flip is to get the other team's 3rd round pick as well (i'd prob settle for 4th though....).

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I think LTs numbers will decrease from last season,

but even a 10-20 drop off still makes this kid a dominating force.

LT.

 

[ceo3west]

After 11 years of playing it has finally happened baby!!! First pick of the draft to Steelnation!!!! So is there ANY question about who I should take?Seriously, is ANYONE worthy of that pick other than LT?

I am in the same boat, and am also worried about a letdown. Injury is a concern too due to LT's workload over the years. One thing is for sure, I will be drafting Turner earlier than he should go just to guarantee #1 RB production for the entire year.

 

[Steelnation]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:

LT = 334

Peyton = 357

Just saying..........

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:LT = 334Peyton = 357Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

 

[Sweetness_34]

Well.... Steven Jackson isn't half bad himself and he is 4 years younger than Tomlinson (24 to 28). LT is the better player but he had the career year to end all career years in 2006. If he scores under 30 touchdowns it'll seem like a disappointment.Usually when a player plays that great a letdown the next season is almost inevitable. People will say there's no way that happens to LT. But they probably felt the same way about Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper in 2005, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice in 1996, and Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis in 1999. When you're at the top there's nowhere else to go but down. Most of the time.With all that being said if I have the #1 pick I'd probably take LT. If I could trade it for Steven Jackson (#2 pick) and something else I'd strongly consider it. It's important to not fall in love with any one player no matter who it is. Think with your head, not with your heart.

And it is not like Steven Jackson will not have a regression to the mean on his #s right? I mean I am sure SJax will get 90 catches again So what that the Rams now have Leonard, Randy McMichael and Pace back (allowing longer passes to Wrs instead of check downs to SJax)

 

[BigSteelThrill]

LT2

'grats.

 

[Steelnation]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:LT = 334Peyton = 357Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Well.... Steven Jackson isn't half bad himself and he is 4 years younger than Tomlinson (24 to 28). LT is the better player but he had the career year to end all career years in 2006. If he scores under 30 touchdowns it'll seem like a disappointment.Usually when a player plays that great a letdown the next season is almost inevitable. People will say there's no way that happens to LT. But they probably felt the same way about Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper in 2005, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice in 1996, and Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis in 1999. When you're at the top there's nowhere else to go but down. Most of the time.With all that being said if I have the #1 pick I'd probably take LT. If I could trade it for Steven Jackson (#2 pick) and something else I'd strongly consider it. It's important to not fall in love with any one player no matter who it is. Think with your head, not with your heart.

And it is not like Steven Jackson will not have a regression to the mean on his #s right? I mean I am sure SJax will get 90 catches again So what that the Rams now have Leonard, Randy McMichael and Pace back (allowing longer passes to Wrs instead of check downs to SJax)

He's a younger player than LT. What's to say that he doesn't get better in other ways (scoring more touchdowns, rushing for more yards)? Maybe those last 4 games in which he went ballistic scoring 10 TDs becomes a regular thing for SJax in 07. Steven Jackson doesn't need 90 receptions to be a fantasy phenom.Leonard's nobody so he's not a factor. Another threat in McMichael helps the running game. Pace returning from injury helps there too. Are you seriously telling me that there's no way Steven Jackson can be the number 1 running back over Tomlinson?History would tend to disagree with you. Like I said if you have the #1 pick you draft LT but look at your options. I also said think with your head not your heart. With the attitude you're giving me about this you're not thinking about this as clearly as you could be.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

no. he's Neo.

 

[shadyridr]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:

LT = 334

Peyton = 357

Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

0 pts

 

[Steelnation]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:

LT = 334

Peyton = 357

Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

0 pts

ActuallyQB - 45

RB - 57

 

[Sweetness_34]

Well.... Steven Jackson isn't half bad himself and he is 4 years younger than Tomlinson (24 to 28). LT is the better player but he had the career year to end all career years in 2006. If he scores under 30 touchdowns it'll seem like a disappointment.Usually when a player plays that great a letdown the next season is almost inevitable. People will say there's no way that happens to LT. But they probably felt the same way about Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper in 2005, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice in 1996, and Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis in 1999. When you're at the top there's nowhere else to go but down. Most of the time.With all that being said if I have the #1 pick I'd probably take LT. If I could trade it for Steven Jackson (#2 pick) and something else I'd strongly consider it. It's important to not fall in love with any one player no matter who it is. Think with your head, not with your heart.

And it is not like Steven Jackson will not have a regression to the mean on his #s right? I mean I am sure SJax will get 90 catches again So what that the Rams now have Leonard, Randy McMichael and Pace back (allowing longer passes to Wrs instead of check downs to SJax)

He's a younger player than LT. What's to say that he doesn't get better in other ways (scoring more touchdowns, rushing for more yards)? Maybe those last 4 games in which he went ballistic scoring 10 TDs becomes a regular thing for SJax in 07. Steven Jackson doesn't need 90 receptions to be a fantasy phenom.Leonard's nobody so he's not a factor. Another threat in McMichael helps the running game. Pace returning from injury helps there too. Are you seriously telling me that there's no way Steven Jackson can be the number 1 running back over Tomlinson?History would tend to disagree with you. Like I said if you have the #1 pick you draft LT but look at your options. I also said think with your head not your heart. With the attitude you're giving me about this you're not thinking about this as clearly as you could be.

Before last year, where was SJax? LT has been consistently a top 5 Rb in most FF leagues. SJax had a career year last year, and still could not even come close to LT's career year. No way SJax even repeats close to what he did last year.

 

[shadyridr]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:

LT = 334

Peyton = 357

Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

0 pts

ActuallyQB - 45

RB - 57

Read his question more closely

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Well.... Steven Jackson isn't half bad himself and he is 4 years younger than Tomlinson (24 to 28). LT is the better player but he had the career year to end all career years in 2006. If he scores under 30 touchdowns it'll seem like a disappointment.

Usually when a player plays that great a letdown the next season is almost inevitable. People will say there's no way that happens to LT. But they probably felt the same way about Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper in 2005, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice in 1996, and Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis in 1999. When you're at the top there's nowhere else to go but down. Most of the time.

With all that being said if I have the #1 pick I'd probably take LT. If I could trade it for Steven Jackson (#2 pick) and something else I'd strongly consider it. It's important to not fall in love with any one player no matter who it is. Think with your head, not with your heart.

And it is not like Steven Jackson will not have a regression to the mean on his #s right? I mean I am sure SJax will get 90 catches again So what that the Rams now have Leonard, Randy McMichael and Pace back (allowing longer passes to Wrs instead of check downs to SJax)

He's a younger player than LT. What's to say that he doesn't get better in other ways (scoring more touchdowns, rushing for more yards)? Maybe those last 4 games in which he went ballistic scoring 10 TDs becomes a regular thing for SJax in 07. Steven Jackson doesn't need 90 receptions to be a fantasy phenom.Leonard's nobody so he's not a factor. Another threat in McMichael helps the running game. Pace returning from injury helps there too. Are you seriously telling me that there's no way Steven Jackson can be the number 1 running back over Tomlinson?

History would tend to disagree with you.

Like I said if you have the #1 pick you draft LT but look at your options. I also said think with your head not your heart. With the attitude you're giving me about this you're not thinking about this as clearly as you could be.

Before last year, where was SJax? LT has been consistently a top 5 Rb in most FF leagues. SJax had a career year last year, and still could not even come close to LT's career year. No way SJax even repeats close to what he did last year.

There's a slight difference. Steven Jackson had a career year last season. LaDainian Tomlinson had the greatest fantasy season of all time. What's more likely? Steven Jackson at 24 having a season like he had last year or LT at 28 having the season he had last year. SJax had a great season. LT had one for the ages. Usually when a player plays that well there's a letdown this next season. I can't totally explain it but you see it happen all the time.I know it sounds like i'm dogging LT but really I'm not. Obviously he's the best running back in the NFL and he runs behind the best offensive line in the league. You'd be crazy not to draft him #1. Truth be told I hope I don't get the first pick. It just seems like too much pressure to me.

FWIW the past top running backs were #1 in back-to-back seasons. Faulk 2000-2001, Holmes 2002-2003, Alexander 2004-2005. Maybe LT continues that trend from 2006 to 2007.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:

LT = 334

Peyton = 357

Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

0 pts

ActuallyQB - 45

RB - 57

Read his question more closely

Good thing Steelnation gave me the benefit of the doubt!

 

[Steelnation]

The VBD application suggest the following totals based on my league's point system:

LT = 334

Peyton = 357

Just saying..........

But what's the differentials between the #1 vs #2 RB and the #1 and #2 RB?Is this really even a question?

0 pts

ActuallyQB - 45

RB - 57

Read his question more closely

Good thing Steelnation gave me the benefit of the doubt!

 

[Dancing Bear]

I'd say it depends upon your assessment of the various risks. Let's look at the possibilities ...

Just two short years ago Shaun Alexander broke the TD record and gave us 22.7 ppg. Last year he lost Hutch, he broke his foot, and he lost his QB and he still had a 13.6 ppg last year!

Frank Gore had a stellar year in 2006 but only came in at 17.0 ppg. Could improve, but ...

Ahman Green is 4 years removed from a season where he had a 21.6 ppg. New team ... not happening.

Steven Jackson had over a 50% increase from 2005 and finished with 20.6 ppg in 2006. He could give us another 20+ ppg season.

Edgerrin James is seven years removed from his 20+ ppg season. Arizona's Offense will be good this year, but I don't see Edgerrin giving us 20+ ppg.

LJ has had two straight 21.0 ppg seasons!

Rudi Johnson is the main-man in Cincinnati, but he has yet to break 15.0 ppg.

Thomas Jones has had 3 good years in a row but he has never broken 14.0 ppg.

Maurice Jones-Drew had a terrific first year; RBBC all over it and he gave us 14.2 ppg. Not happening ...

Willis McGahee had his best year 3 years ago; he gave us 13.0 ppg. New team, not happening ...

Willie Parker gave us 16.7 ppg last year. Cannot see Willie hitting the 20.0 ppg mark ...

Clinton Portis is 5 years removed from giving us 20.0 ppg and he has not come close since leaving Denver.

LT2 broke the 20.0 ppg plateau for just his second time in 6 years last year. He of course had the best year in NFL history for a RB, and he gave us 26.7 ppg. LT2 will regress to his previous average which is essentially the 20.0 ppg mark.

Brian Westbrook has consistently flirted with 15.0 ppg, but last year he had a career year and gave us 17.2 ppg. McNabb is back and their Offense will have more balance. He will not eclipse 20.0 ppg.

So in the end, you have to pick from ...

Shaun Alexander

Steven Jackson

Larry Johnson

LaDanian Tomlinson

Who is the most likely to get you the 20.0 ppg?

I'd rank them as follows:

1) LT2 or LJ

2) Steven Jackson

3) Shaun Alexander

LT2 has been a Top 5 RB for 6 years; you have to ask yourself at what point does his body feel its age and his performance fall off correspondingly?

LJ has been a Top 5 RB for 2 years; he has plenty more in the tank for this year at a minimum. The issue is whether he comes to his senses in the next week or so and signs on the dotted line ...

If your draft is after LJ signs in the next week, then I'd flip a coin and take whomever is "heads". If your draft is before LJ signs, then I would err on picking LT2.

I would also say though that your 2.12 and 3.01 picks are as equally vital as the 1.01 pick. Just because you have LT2 does not guarantee a championship. In each of the past six years, the LT2 Owner in my most competitive FFL League has never one the championship!

 

[Steelnation]

I'd say it depends upon your assessment of the various risks. Let's look at the possibilities ...

Just two short years ago Shaun Alexander broke the TD record and gave us 22.7 ppg. Last year he lost Hutch, he broke his foot, and he lost his QB and he still had a 13.6 ppg last year!

Frank Gore had a stellar year in 2006 but only came in at 17.0 ppg. Could improve, but ...

Ahman Green is 4 years removed from a season where he had a 21.6 ppg. New team ... not happening.

Steven Jackson had over a 50% increase from 2005 and finished with 20.6 ppg in 2006. He could give us another 20+ ppg season.

Edgerrin James is seven years removed from his 20+ ppg season. Arizona's Offense will be good this year, but I don't see Edgerrin giving us 20+ ppg.

LJ has had two straight 21.0 ppg seasons!

Rudi Johnson is the main-man in Cincinnati, but he has yet to break 15.0 ppg.

Thomas Jones has had 3 good years in a row but he has never broken 14.0 ppg.

Maurice Jones-Drew had a terrific first year; RBBC all over it and he gave us 14.2 ppg. Not happening ...

Willis McGahee had his best year 3 years ago; he gave us 13.0 ppg. New team, not happening ...

Willie Parker gave us 16.7 ppg last year. Cannot see Willie hitting the 20.0 ppg mark ...

Clinton Portis is 5 years removed from giving us 20.0 ppg and he has not come close since leaving Denver.

LT2 broke the 20.0 ppg plateau for just his second time in 6 years last year. He of course had the best year in NFL history for a RB, and he gave us 26.7 ppg. LT2 will regress to his previous average which is essentially the 20.0 ppg mark.

Brian Westbrook has consistently flirted with 15.0 ppg, but last year he had a career year and gave us 17.2 ppg. McNabb is back and their Offense will have more balance. He will not eclipse 20.0 ppg.

So in the end, you have to pick from ...

Shaun Alexander

Steven Jackson

Larry Johnson

LaDanian Tomlinson

Who is the most likely to get you the 20.0 ppg?

I'd rank them as follows:

1) LT2 or LJ

2) Steven Jackson

3) Shaun Alexander

LT2 has been a Top 5 RB for 6 years; you have to ask yourself at what point does his body feel its age and his performance fall off correspondingly?

LJ has been a Top 5 RB for 2 years; he has plenty more in the tank for this year at a minimum. The issue is whether he comes to his senses in the next week or so and signs on the dotted line ...

If your draft is after LJ signs in the next week, then I'd flip a coin and take whomever is "heads". If your draft is before LJ signs, then I would err on picking LT2.

I would also say though that your 2.12 and 3.01 picks are as equally vital as the 1.01 pick. Just because you have LT2 does not guarantee a championship. In each of the past six years, the LT2 Owner in my most competitive FFL League has never one the championship!

I 100% agree that my 2nd and 3rd pick are critical. Not sure what I will be looking at when those picks come but I plan on:Taking Palmer or Brady if still on the board

if not

Taking the best RB then the best WR

if the RB picking is slim

Take the best two WR on the board

The third option is risky but it all comes down to what RBs are left at 24 & 25.

Thoughts?

All you 1st pick guys chime in, what is your strategy for picks 2 and 3????

 

[einstein2u]

I'd say it depends upon your assessment of the various risks. Let's look at the possibilities ...

Just two short years ago Shaun Alexander broke the TD record and gave us 22.7 ppg. Last year he lost Hutch, he broke his foot, and he lost his QB and he still had a 13.6 ppg last year!

Frank Gore had a stellar year in 2006 but only came in at 17.0 ppg. Could improve, but ...

Ahman Green is 4 years removed from a season where he had a 21.6 ppg. New team ... not happening.

Steven Jackson had over a 50% increase from 2005 and finished with 20.6 ppg in 2006. He could give us another 20+ ppg season.

Edgerrin James is seven years removed from his 20+ ppg season. Arizona's Offense will be good this year, but I don't see Edgerrin giving us 20+ ppg.

LJ has had two straight 21.0 ppg seasons!

Rudi Johnson is the main-man in Cincinnati, but he has yet to break 15.0 ppg.

Thomas Jones has had 3 good years in a row but he has never broken 14.0 ppg.

Maurice Jones-Drew had a terrific first year; RBBC all over it and he gave us 14.2 ppg. Not happening ...

Willis McGahee had his best year 3 years ago; he gave us 13.0 ppg. New team, not happening ...

Willie Parker gave us 16.7 ppg last year. Cannot see Willie hitting the 20.0 ppg mark ...

Clinton Portis is 5 years removed from giving us 20.0 ppg and he has not come close since leaving Denver.

LT2 broke the 20.0 ppg plateau for just his second time in 6 years last year. He of course had the best year in NFL history for a RB, and he gave us 26.7 ppg. LT2 will regress to his previous average which is essentially the 20.0 ppg mark.

Brian Westbrook has consistently flirted with 15.0 ppg, but last year he had a career year and gave us 17.2 ppg. McNabb is back and their Offense will have more balance. He will not eclipse 20.0 ppg.

So in the end, you have to pick from ...

Shaun Alexander

Steven Jackson

Larry Johnson

LaDanian Tomlinson

Who is the most likely to get you the 20.0 ppg?

I'd rank them as follows:

1) LT2 or LJ

2) Steven Jackson

3) Shaun Alexander

LT2 has been a Top 5 RB for 6 years; you have to ask yourself at what point does his body feel its age and his performance fall off correspondingly?

LJ has been a Top 5 RB for 2 years; he has plenty more in the tank for this year at a minimum. The issue is whether he comes to his senses in the next week or so and signs on the dotted line ...

If your draft is after LJ signs in the next week, then I'd flip a coin and take whomever is "heads". If your draft is before LJ signs, then I would err on picking LT2.

I would also say though that your 2.12 and 3.01 picks are as equally vital as the 1.01 pick. Just because you have LT2 does not guarantee a championship. In each of the past six years, the LT2 Owner in my most competitive FFL League has never one the championship!

I 100% agree that my 2nd and 3rd pick are critical. Not sure what I will be looking at when those picks come but I plan on:Taking Palmer or Brady if still on the board

if not

Taking the best RB then the best WR

if the RB picking is slim

Take the best two WR on the board

The third option is risky but it all comes down to what RBs are left at 24 & 25.

Thoughts?

All you 1st pick guys chime in, what is your strategy for picks 2 and 3????

I plan on taking two WR if they are on the board85

smith

TO

Harrison

Wayne

Holt

or

benson and one of the above WR.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

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All you 1st pick guys chime in, what is your strategy for picks 2 and 3????

here you go:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=330183

 

[Steelnation]

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All you 1st pick guys chime in, what is your strategy for picks 2 and 3????

here you go:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=330183

Thanks

 

[Blackstar]

Its hard to even comprehend how someone would ruin the awesomeness that is the 1st pick with someone other than LT. It shouldn't even be a debate. In fact, its not a debate if you ask anyone with any football sense. Don't mean to be mean but anything else is drafting with your heart instead of your brain. Period. Unless you're in a Keeper league, LT's age means N O T H I N G compared to S.Jack's. You can't hurt what you can't hit.

my league is;

12 teams/snake/non-keeper

1,2,3,1,1,1 format

QBs get 6 pts per TD

bonus points awarded at 300 passing, 100 rushing 100 receiveing as well as long distance TD bonuses.

I'm picking third(which means LJ) so I'll give you a little help into how a 3rd pick might/will/should be drafting. I can tell you right now, that as the #3, I think I'm sitting in one of the best possible positions after round 1 compared to the 1st and 2nd picks. In round 2, if I can also take a stud WR away from you and on the wayback, worstcase scenario, only 2 WRs and 2RBs are going once 1st and 2nd picks complete their draft.

On the wayback in rounds 2/3, I'm most likely going to fill my team with the best WRs that are available at that time. That means some sort of combination of Reggie Wayne, Roy Williams, Javon Walker, TJ housh, and if I'm REALLY lucky, torry Holt(assuming that Marvin, Steve, Ocho, and TO are gone before my pick). I would rather have 1 Beast RB and 2 #1 Beastly WRs(ones that could end up in the top 5-7) in the first 2 rounds than to go RB/QB/RB or RB/WR/RB. My rationale is, I'm trying to create a team who will on a week by week basis will put up monster numbers. QBs don't count because they're all essentially the same after peyton and carson. RBs who get picked up in the 4th and 5th rounds vs. the late 2nd/early 3rd have equally good a chance of having a productive season.

I'm personally also not too worried about my 2nd RB because of the sweetness that is, a top 3 pick. I'll take my chances on a jamal lewis, marshawn lynch, APeterson, Brandon Jackson, Caddilac-ish type #2 in the 3rd/4th wayback because, as I said, All of them have as good a chance of being a top 10 back as anyone in the 15-20RB positional range will. Might as well bulk up on definite freak WRs. Same with QB, I'll take my chances in round 5 with a John Kitna who may get me 4300 yards by accident in Martz Offense.

In a perfect world, I'm going to the Ravens and V.Davis on my 6th/7th wayback.

So from my standpoint, I'm going to get:

1- LJ (top 5 potential)

2/3- Reggie Wayne and Roy Williams/Javon Walker(2 top 5 potentials)

4- upsided RB; lynch, lewis, jackson, peterson(risky but top 10 potential)

5- Kitna/Cutler(Top 5 potential w/ the double point WR hookup

6- Ravens(top 3 most likely)

7- V.Davis(top 5 potential)

So, I'm pretty stacked in my eyes as far as a starting core of my team goes. I can then worry about filling the rest of my squad with a 3rd starting WR, and backup RBs.

As for who I'd take if I were you, I'm still going for the "fill my team with studs" formula but it wouldn't be an awful choice if Carson is sitting there starting at you with his 4500/30+TDs. I just wouldn't squander the 1st pick taking a flyer on a RB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds when I can get almost definite studs at other high-point scoring positions.

There's my pair-o-pennies

 

[Steelnation]

I dunno

I just can't see passing up on Palmer or Brady at 3.01

You could potential have, along with LT

a 1-3 WR (Wayne/TO/SS/Housh/RW/etc)

a 1-3 QB

I really would like to go RB/WR/WR but not sure if I can pass on Brady or Palmer if still there at 3.01

Please explain the pros & cons

 

[Blackstar]

well, to me the reasoning on why NOT to take a QB is pretty simple. Why take a QB in round 2 or 3 when you can get the equivalent points with a slightly less sexy name much later if need be. Palmer is tough to pass up(but I could/would) but T.Brady is a no-brainer, let-em go guy.

 

[Steelnation]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

 

[einstein2u]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

what other backs where at the 4/5 turn?peterson? caddy? mb3? duece?

 

[shadyridr]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

You have sick WRs and LT. The rest of your team is average at best. I wouldnt count the money just yet.

 

[Steelnation]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

what other backs where at the 4/5 turn?peterson? caddy? mb3? duece?

Caddy and MB3 where there

 

[North]

Well.... Steven Jackson isn't half bad himself and he is 4 years younger than Tomlinson (24 to 28). LT is the better player but he had the career year to end all career years in 2006. If he scores under 30 touchdowns it'll seem like a disappointment.Usually when a player plays that great a letdown the next season is almost inevitable. People will say there's no way that happens to LT. But they probably felt the same way about Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper in 2005, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice in 1996, and Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis in 1999. When you're at the top there's nowhere else to go but down. Most of the time.With all that being said if I have the #1 pick I'd probably take LT. If I could trade it for Steven Jackson (#2 pick) and something else I'd strongly consider it. It's important to not fall in love with any one player no matter who it is. Think with your head, not with your heart.

And it is not like Steven Jackson will not have a regression to the mean on his #s right? I mean I am sure SJax will get 90 catches again So what that the Rams now have Leonard, Randy McMichael and Pace back (allowing longer passes to Wrs instead of check downs to SJax)

He's a younger player than LT. What's to say that he doesn't get better in other ways (scoring more touchdowns, rushing for more yards)? Maybe those last 4 games in which he went ballistic scoring 10 TDs becomes a regular thing for SJax in 07. Steven Jackson doesn't need 90 receptions to be a fantasy phenom.Leonard's nobody so he's not a factor. Another threat in McMichael helps the running game. Pace returning from injury helps there too. Are you seriously telling me that there's no way Steven Jackson can be the number 1 running back over Tomlinson?History would tend to disagree with you. Like I said if you have the #1 pick you draft LT but look at your options. I also said think with your head not your heart. With the attitude you're giving me about this you're not thinking about this as clearly as you could be.

Before last year, where was SJax? LT has been consistently a top 5 Rb in most FF leagues. SJax had a career year last year, and still could not even come close to LT's career year. No way SJax even repeats close to what he did last year.

Last year SJAx was picked 4th by me in my draft b/c I was extremely confident he would post solid #'s, just as I am this year. I think at years end you will have 4 players all within 20 points of each other at the top of the RB rankings.That being said, you can't go with anyone but LT.

 

[Steelnation]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

You have sick WRs and LT. The rest of your team is average at best. I wouldnt count the money just yet.

I was 2 picks away from handcuffing LT, but I think Tatum Bell has a ton of potential. My D's are very solid and I have the kicker for one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL and he also kicks in a dome........I think this team is much better than average.

 

[einstein2u]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

You have sick WRs and LT. The rest of your team is average at best. I wouldnt count the money just yet.

I was 2 picks away from handcuffing LT, but I think Tatum Bell has a ton of potential. My D's are very solid and I have the kicker for one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL and he also kicks in a dome........I think this team is much better than average.

i agree...better than average.i think green is a servicable rb2.

 

[One]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

Gratz, I think you did well.

 

[Steelnation]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......

The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

 

[einstein2u]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

i would have taken TO.

 

[One]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

23 straight RB's and Manning? I saw 18 straight go last season in one draft, but it was followed shortly by a long string of WR's.

 

[TheWick]

Wayne over CJ? reasoning?

They'll be close enough in points where it probably won't matter but, that'd be a touch call.

 

[shadyridr]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

I agree with your commish. So in other words you have Wayne ranked #2 overall?

 

[Steelnation]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......

The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

23 straight RB's and Manning? I saw 18 straight go last season in one draft, but it was followed shortly by a long string of WR's.

RB'sManning

Brady

Palmer

Brees

 

[Steelnation]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

I agree with your commish. So in other words you have Wayne ranked #2 overall?

I did not, I just was set on having Reggie Wayne on my team.Once I got home I was thinking WTF did I just do???? I passed on TO, CJ and Marvin for Wayne?????But I do think Wayne's time is NOW

 

[switz]

There's a slight difference. Steven Jackson had a career year last season. LaDainian Tomlinson had the greatest fantasy season of all time. What's more likely? Steven Jackson at 24 having a season like he had last year or LT at 28 having the season he had last year. SJax had a great season. LT had one for the ages. Usually when a player plays that well there's a letdown this next season. I can't totally explain it but you see it happen all the time.

I know it sounds like i'm dogging LT but really I'm not. Obviously he's the best running back in the NFL and he runs behind the best offensive line in the league. You'd be crazy not to draft him #1. Truth be told I hope I don't get the first pick. It just seems like too much pressure to me.

FWIW the past top running backs were #1 in back-to-back seasons. Faulk 2000-2001, Holmes 2002-2003, Alexander 2004-2005. Maybe LT continues that trend from 2006 to 2007.

The flaw in your reasoning is basing your decision on which player is likely to repeat their stats from last season. The answer is neither.However, the question should be - given what we know about both players, which is more likely to put up stats worthy of being the #1?

That answer clearly is LT.

 

[switz]

I just could not believe that not 1 WR was off the board at 24......The Commish told me I was crazy for not taking Marvin, CJ or TO to pair up with Steve Smith as opposed to Reggie Wayne.

I agree with your commish. So in other words you have Wayne ranked #2 overall?

I did not, I just was set on having Reggie Wayne on my team.Once I got home I was thinking WTF did I just do???? I passed on TO, CJ and Marvin for Wayne?????But I do think Wayne's time is NOW

I think you lost your championship with that pick.

 

[switz]

Completed my draft last night, team as follows:

QB

Big Ben

Jake Delhome

RB

LT

Ahman Green

Tatum Bell

J Norwood

WR

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Lee Evans

Devery Henederson

TE

Heath Miller

Bo Scafie



D

Carolina

Denver

K

Olindo Mare

Neil Rackers

When it came to my 2nd and 3rd pick not 1 WR had beem taken???? This really threw me off, so I grabbed Steve Smith and Reggie Wayne. When it came to my 4th pick I needed to take the best RB and I took Ahman, then at 5 SOMEHOW Lee Evans slipped through the cracks!!!!!

This league had been fairly competitive until last night. We had 5 new teams and some people either are first timers or were just plain DRUNK.

But hey $200 entry fee so I will be happy to take there $$$$

Gratz, I think you did well.

I'm not sure what your lineup requirements are, or the size of your league, so I'm not sure how to critique your team, but here's a stab at it.QB: You're still looking for one.

RB: Unless Norwood surprises, you're stuck with LT alone, and I'm pretty sure you need to start 2.

WR: Smith, Evans, and Wayne make a solid #1, #2, #3 excellent.

TE: Alot of people are high on that Bo guy.

D: Hard to predict, I think you'll be pleased with both.

K: Rackers should be good.

Overall, outside of LT, you have very little at the RB and QB positions, and it will hurt you.

 

[Clark Griswold]

I have the two pick and the #1 has already confirmed he is taking SJax. So I am a little at getting LT at 2.

I fully support the WR/WR picks at the 2/3 turn, but for me I will be at picks 19 and 22. Making these picks here is all about forcasting what will be available to you at 4/5 and beyond. Although I want to go WR/WR here, I think one fo McGahee/Benson/MJD will be available to me at 19. If Willis is there, it will be an easy decision. So I will get one of the Top WR at the 3rd, but we will see.

If you have a flex RB/WR in your lineup this does change the thought process here slightly.

Will post draft results tonight.

 

[einstein2u]

with the 1st pick

Mcnabb, Leinart

LT, Green, JJ, Adrian Peterson (Chi)

TO, Chad Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, David Boston

Ben Watson

Mare

Vikings.

Little thin at TE....but over all happy.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

with the 1st pickMcnabb, LeinartLT, Green, JJ, Adrian Peterson (Chi)TO, Chad Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, David BostonBen WatsonMareVikings.Little thin at TE....but over all happy.

I'm seeing a LOT of LT owners end up with Green. I guess he's just considered the best guy at the turn when all the main options are gone, but can you tell me who else was available?

 

[einstein2u]

with the 1st pickMcnabb, LeinartLT, Green, JJ, Adrian Peterson (Chi)TO, Chad Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, David BostonBen WatsonMareVikings.Little thin at TE....but over all happy.

I'm seeing a LOT of LT owners end up with Green. I guess he's just considered the best guy at the turn when all the main options are gone, but can you tell me who else was available?

mb3, jamal lewis, dwill, norwood, tatum bell...