Isaiah Crowell (3 Viewers)

[Henry Ford]

It's like Bo Jackson, Barry Sanders and Walter Payton had a baby.

Best "Three Men and a Baby" remake idea ever.

 

[knickstorm]

he looked great, but the fumble looked like hurt his confidence. Then the Texans went up 2 scores and a series of miscues just led to a lack of more rushing attempts in the 2nd half.

 

[dhockster]

Why in the world would Cleveland go back to Crowell after he fumbled in the second when there are two highly talented backs on the roster?

west has looked good the last two weeks and his reward was getting benched so wtf knows.

Maybe they want the most explosive guy in there. You know, the guy with the highest ypc. If he hadn't had these fumbles, there would be absolutely no discussions about who should get the carries. Why trot out there guys averaging 3.14 and 3.64 ypc when you can get 4.59 out of Crowell.

crowell had the lowest ypc last week

Those gotta be some tasty cherries you are picking. Try looking at the whole season.

im just saying (and this was the point of my first post) it was a strange time to make the change since the hot RB has actually been Wes.

Well they do have a Shanahan on the payrolls calling the plays.

This may be the most astute comment I have seen on these boards in a long time. Shanahan and RB consistency do not go together

 

[Chaka]

Why in the world would Cleveland go back to Crowell after he fumbled in the second when there are two highly talented backs on the roster?

west has looked good the last two weeks and his reward was getting benched so wtf knows.

Maybe they want the most explosive guy in there. You know, the guy with the highest ypc. If he hadn't had these fumbles, there would be absolutely no discussions about who should get the carries. Why trot out there guys averaging 3.14 and 3.64 ypc when you can get 4.59 out of Crowell.

crowell had the lowest ypc last week

Those gotta be some tasty cherries you are picking. Try looking at the whole season.

im just saying (and this was the point of my first post) it was a strange time to make the change since the hot RB has actually been Wes.

Well they do have a Shanahan on the payrolls calling the plays.

This may be the most astute comment I have seen on these boards in a long time. Shanahan and RB consistency do not go together

Steve Slaton and Alfred Morris disagree.

I think K.Shanahan has always featured an individual RB when he had one worth featuring. In Cleveland I think they are still trying to determine which one that is.

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Just read on Rotoworld that the Ben Tate has fallen behind both guys on the depth chart because the coaches want explosiveness from the young guys. I think that's evident when Crowell fumbled and they have him more carries.

 

[georg013]

Does this mean they feel Crowell is explosive? Some of the earlier posts imply all three backs are similar. I honestly have been living under a rock this season and haven't had a chance to see Crowell play. For those guys who hate Rotoworld copy and paste jobs.....BOOM

Coach Mike Pettine says Ben Tate has fallen behind Isaiah Crowell and Terrance West on the depth chart because the Browns have been looking for more "explosiveness."
"It's explosiveness with the young backs," Pettine said. "Just a little more pop." Pettine's comments jibe with the reality, as Tate's YPC has slumped to 3.1. West hasn't been much better at 3.6, but Crowell is managing 4.6. The Browns' running back corps remains a weekly crapshoot where Tate could randomly take on big workloads, but he's an RB4/5 for fantasy purposes after handling all of two touches in Sunday's loss to the Texans.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

He's going to have a game where he is doing well and they will give it to him all day long.

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

I'm hurting bad at RB2. I might just roll with him hoping for the best, knowing he could get pulled at any time.

Sounds to me like they know he's the most explosive and they want him to have the job. But i could be reading it all wrong/the coaches change their mind as usual.

 

[Soulfly3]

Does this mean they feel Crowell is explosive? Some of the earlier posts imply all three backs are similar. I honestly have been living under a rock this season and haven't had a chance to see Crowell play. For those guys who hate Rotoworld copy and paste jobs.....BOOM

Coach Mike Pettine says Ben Tate has fallen behind Isaiah Crowell and Terrance West on the depth chart because the Browns have been looking for more "explosiveness."
"It's explosiveness with the young backs," Pettine said. "Just a little more pop." Pettine's comments jibe with the reality, as Tate's YPC has slumped to 3.1. West hasn't been much better at 3.6, but Crowell is managing 4.6. The Browns' running back corps remains a weekly crapshoot where Tate could randomly take on big workloads, but he's an RB4/5 for fantasy purposes after handling all of two touches in Sunday's loss to the Texans.

When I talk about the Browns, folks should listen....

Called this ages ago. Crowell will also lead this, solo, very soon... Provided he holds on to the ball better.

 

[Tool]

Does this mean they feel Crowell is explosive? Some of the earlier posts imply all three backs are similar. I honestly have been living under a rock this season and haven't had a chance to see Crowell play. For those guys who hate Rotoworld copy and paste jobs.....BOOM

Coach Mike Pettine says Ben Tate has fallen behind Isaiah Crowell and Terrance West on the depth chart because the Browns have been looking for more "explosiveness."
"It's explosiveness with the young backs," Pettine said. "Just a little more pop." Pettine's comments jibe with the reality, as Tate's YPC has slumped to 3.1. West hasn't been much better at 3.6, but Crowell is managing 4.6. The Browns' running back corps remains a weekly crapshoot where Tate could randomly take on big workloads, but he's an RB4/5 for fantasy purposes after handling all of two touches in Sunday's loss to the Texans.

When I talk about the Browns, folks should listen....

Called this ages ago. Crowell will also lead this, solo, very soon... Provided he holds on to the ball better.

That seems to be the x factor.

 

[georg013]

Should we bump anyone here? Looks like Tate owners are out of the running.

 

[njherdfan]

Well, this helps Crowell's outlook this year.

 

[oddsbodkins]

IT'S HAPPENING

 

[MattFancy]

Wow so glad I was just able to scoop up Crowell just before the Tate news broke. Lucked out there

 

[One]

I am starting to wonder how much experience some people in here have with the NFL. I don't care how many YPC a rookie back puts up. It is entirely irrelevant. If there is a veteran back who is moving the chains (even at a lower YPC), keeping his assignments in the passing game (particularly blitz pickup) and keeping the football secure then, in all but the rarest of circumstances, that veteran will keep the job.

If we were talking about a rookie Adrian Peterson and an incumbent Chester Taylor then I would worry about the veteran's job security, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about Crowell and Tate and in this case the veteran will win out. That's the way the NFL works. Now if Tate starts ######## the bed for several weeks in a row, fumbling, missing blocks and the like then maybe the door will open for the rookie, but if he keeps doing what he is doing then expect him to hold onto his job.

Injury is what will allow Crowell to get into the starting lineup this year and not much else.

Sorry.

 

[skol asylum]

So 1 35 yd run and a bunch more at 2.0 ypc defines a stud RB now?

Barry Sanders did well with that style.No stud potential until he gets closer to those 25 carries per game though.

So Crowell will be Sanders-esque if he just gets enough workload? Oh, and doesn't keep fumbling.

Not saying he's a must-start stud but "take away the big play" is literally one of the weakest arguments in fantasy football.

In FF, I agree. In real life? It makes a hell of a difference.

Good thing we all play FF and not real life football. Those ponies would look sweet running down the sideline though.

 

[Rimez]

what an entertaining circus this backfield has been all season, get ready for glenn winston to take the first team reps in practice this week lol.

 

[Ojaays]

Why in the world would Cleveland go back to Crowell after he fumbled in the second when there are two highly talented backs on the roster?

west has looked good the last two weeks and his reward was getting benched so wtf knows.

Maybe they want the most explosive guy in there. You know, the guy with the highest ypc. If he hadn't had these fumbles, there would be absolutely no discussions about who should get the carries. Why trot out there guys averaging 3.14 and 3.64 ypc when you can get 4.59 out of Crowell.

crowell had the lowest ypc last week

Those gotta be some tasty cherries you are picking. Try looking at the whole season.

im just saying (and this was the point of my first post) it was a strange time to make the change since the hot RB has actually been Wes.

Well they do have a Shanahan on the payrolls calling the plays.

This may be the most astute comment I have seen on these boards in a long time. Shanahan and RB consistency do not go together

Steve Slaton and Alfred Morris disagree.I think K.Shanahan has always featured an individual RB when he had one worth featuring. In Cleveland I think they are still trying to determine which one that is.

Looks like they just decided.

#socrow

 

[amnesiac]

CROW

 

[ponchsox]

Low end RB1/high end RB2 ROS?

 

[lod01]

CROW

F**K YEAH!!!!

 

[Andrew74]

I just messed my pants in excitement. CACAW!!!

 

[Banger]

he's got a good matchup vs. Atl, tough one vs. Buff, then Indy, Cincy and carolina in week 16. some good matchups to exploit.

 

[z14jcb]

6 to midnight in a hurry!

 

[FF Wiseguy]

Low end RB1/high end RB2 ROS?

Don't think he hits low-end RB1, probably mid RB2 with some upside weeks during their soft matchups. Tate hasn't been the only problem, or the biggest. West is still there, but the biggest problem is that the line is just not the same since Mack has been gone. They have improved over the last few weeks, and there are some good matchups left, but this coaching staff has still shown no desire to consistently feed one person.

 

[Soulfly3]

Oh, Soulfly...

 

[skol asylum]

Ca-CAW!

 

[Ilov80s]

####

 

[RBM]

Is he starting this week?

 

[SameSongNDance]

High-end RB2 for the remainder of the year. Relatively fresh legs, will help a lot of people make a push for the playoffs.

 

[Annyong]

Is he starting this week?

He is for Fart Jar!

 

[georg013]

I just messed my pants in excitement. CACAW!!!

Literally spit my water out at this!!! LOVE IT!!!! CAACAAWWW!!!!

 

[Sabertooth]

Feed the Crow!

 

[skol asylum]

Who's yer daddy?

http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/0/0/212749/212749-650-366.jpg

Just keep the switch away okay?

 

[Chaka]

I am starting to wonder how much experience some people in here have with the NFL. I don't care how many YPC a rookie back puts up. It is entirely irrelevant. If there is a veteran back who is moving the chains (even at a lower YPC), keeping his assignments in the passing game (particularly blitz pickup) and keeping the football secure then, in all but the rarest of circumstances, that veteran will keep the job.

If we were talking about a rookie Adrian Peterson and an incumbent Chester Taylor then I would worry about the veteran's job security, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about Crowell and Tate and in this case the veteran will win out. That's the way the NFL works. Now if Tate starts ######## the bed for several weeks in a row, fumbling, missing blocks and the like then maybe the door will open for the rookie, but if he keeps doing what he is doing then expect him to hold onto his job.

Injury is what will allow Crowell to get into the starting lineup this year and not much else.

Sorry.

Nice. And I'll own it for the most part because I never saw this coming. Although I think it is fair to say that Tate did #### the bed, he just did it by being a bad teammate.

 

[lod01]

Why in the world would Cleveland go back to Crowell after he fumbled in the second when there are two highly talented backs on the roster?

west has looked good the last two weeks and his reward was getting benched so wtf knows.

Maybe they want the most explosive guy in there. You know, the guy with the highest ypc. If he hadn't had these fumbles, there would be absolutely no discussions about who should get the carries. Why trot out there guys averaging 3.14 and 3.64 ypc when you can get 4.59 out of Crowell.

crowell had the lowest ypc last week

Those gotta be some tasty cherries you are picking. Try looking at the whole season.

some of us are

What do you see?

 

[Sabertooth]

So what do people think this workload split is going to look like?

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

So what do people think this workload split is going to look like?

If i had to guess based on recent events, it appears they want Crowell to get the most carries. They stuck with him even after he fumbled.That being said, an even split would still be useful for both in this offense. 10-15 carries each.

Also the "hot hand" approach would suck and is quite possible.

 

[Soulfly3]

60/40 to 70/30... more towards the 70/30, imo

 

[Gvindy]

Hot Hand imo. Now Winston is in the picture.

 

[SproutDaddy]

60/40 to 70/30... more towards the 70/30, imo

Because it changes on a weekly basis?

 

[Tool]

I am starting to wonder how much experience some people in here have with the NFL. I don't care how many YPC a rookie back puts up. It is entirely irrelevant. If there is a veteran back who is moving the chains (even at a lower YPC), keeping his assignments in the passing game (particularly blitz pickup) and keeping the football secure then, in all but the rarest of circumstances, that veteran will keep the job.

If we were talking about a rookie Adrian Peterson and an incumbent Chester Taylor then I would worry about the veteran's job security, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about Crowell and Tate and in this case the veteran will win out. That's the way the NFL works. Now if Tate starts ######## the bed for several weeks in a row, fumbling, missing blocks and the like then maybe the door will open for the rookie, but if he keeps doing what he is doing then expect him to hold onto his job.

Injury is what will allow Crowell to get into the starting lineup this year and not much else.

Sorry.

Nice. And I'll own it for the most part because I never saw this coming. Although I think it is fair to say that Tate did #### the bed, he just did it by being a bad teammate.

Next time try not to be so condescending.

 

[Sabertooth]

Josh Gordon is going to open up this offense too. I'd imagine the days of 8 in the box might be changing with the emergence of Gordon. I think within 3 weeks Crowell cements this job and is getting 20+ per game.

 

[DropKick]

Is he starting this week?

He is for Fart Jar!

Is this something i should understand if not spoken with a Chinese accent?

 

[Annyong]

Nope!

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm starting Crowell over West unless news comes out that West is starting. Nothing big, just fantasy playoffs on the line.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I'm starting Crowell over West unless news comes out that West is starting. Nothing big, just fantasy playoffs on the line.

I'm in a league where I currently have West signed to a contract and eligible to play but Crowell on a practice squad which he is not eligible until a contract is signed. I do not necessarily have space to sign Crowell without making other moves... Either I roll with West and hope for the best or sign up Crowell and roll him out this week with Lacy. Its win or go home so I'll be watching closely for signs of workload this week leading up to Sunday. Real question now is how does Gordon's return impact Crowell and co? I'd bet it helps quite a bit so long as they do not abandon the run.

 

[rdrouyn]

I can't read this thread anymore, it just makes me sad. Dropped Crowell for Ball two weeks ago.

 

[Him]

Blowing every FAAB dollar I have left on him. WIsh me luck.

 

[Chaka]

I am starting to wonder how much experience some people in here have with the NFL. I don't care how many YPC a rookie back puts up. It is entirely irrelevant. If there is a veteran back who is moving the chains (even at a lower YPC), keeping his assignments in the passing game (particularly blitz pickup) and keeping the football secure then, in all but the rarest of circumstances, that veteran will keep the job.

If we were talking about a rookie Adrian Peterson and an incumbent Chester Taylor then I would worry about the veteran's job security, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about Crowell and Tate and in this case the veteran will win out. That's the way the NFL works. Now if Tate starts ######## the bed for several weeks in a row, fumbling, missing blocks and the like then maybe the door will open for the rookie, but if he keeps doing what he is doing then expect him to hold onto his job.

Injury is what will allow Crowell to get into the starting lineup this year and not much else.

Sorry.

Nice. And I'll own it for the most part because I never saw this coming. Although I think it is fair to say that Tate did #### the bed, he just did it by being a bad teammate.

Next time try not to be so condescending.

No. It wasn't intended to be condescending and it wasn't entirely inaccurate either. Tate got benched and cut for attitude and it's my bad for not considering the "bad teammate" option but let's not act like he was benched for production.In the future I will add a "bad teammate" option.

And I sincerely apologize if I offended you or anyone else.