skol asylum
Footballguy
Barry Sanders did well with that style.
No stud potential until he gets closer to those 25 carries per game though.
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No stud potential until he gets closer to those 25 carries per game though.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
So Crowell will be Sanders-esque if he just gets enough workload? Oh, and doesn't keep fumbling.
CR69
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Not saying he's a must-start stud but "take away the big play" is literally one of the weakest arguments in fantasy football.
MAC_32
Footballguy
it's about a lot more than that
mnmplayer
Footballguy
georg013
Footballguy
Isaiah Crowell took over as the Browns' feature back in Sunday's Week 11 loss to the Texans, rushing 14 times for 61 yards and securing 2-of-4 targets for 30 additional yards.
Perhaps most promisingly, the Browns stuck with Crowell after he lost a second-quarter fumble; ball security has been an issue for the promising rookie in the past. Crowell finished with 16 touches compared to Terrance West's five and Ben Tate's two. The Browns can revert to a "hot-hand" approach at any moment, but Crowell has all along been their best option in the backfield. He will be a flex play with upside when Cleveland takes on Atlanta in Week 12.
Perhaps most promisingly, the Browns stuck with Crowell after he lost a second-quarter fumble; ball security has been an issue for the promising rookie in the past. Crowell finished with 16 touches compared to Terrance West's five and Ben Tate's two. The Browns can revert to a "hot-hand" approach at any moment, but Crowell has all along been their best option in the backfield. He will be a flex play with upside when Cleveland takes on Atlanta in Week 12.
Rimez
Footballguy
first murray, then lynch, now barry ####### sanders?! are we watching the same player lol. the cult following he has on this board is hilarious, crowell could hand the ball to an opposing linebacker then throw a block for him and someone here would try to rationalize it away lol.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
You completely missed the point. Im not saying he is Barry Sanders, just that reading into a tiny sample size of carries and saying that he sucks because he is explosive but had a few short stops is dumb. If you looked at alot of Sanders stat lines you could come to a similar conclusion because he was boom or bust alot too.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
He's Barry Freakin Sanders on offense and after he fumbles the ball He's **** Effin Butkis on Defense.
MAC_32
Footballguy
no explanation for West, but Tate was TERRIBLE
msudaisy26
Footballguy
He looks like Jim Brown to me, but faster, and stronger, and more elusive.
shadyridr
Footballguy
west has looked good the last two weeks and his reward was getting benched so wtf knows.
lod01
Footballguy
Maybe they want the most explosive guy in there. You know, the guy with the highest ypc. If he hadn't had these fumbles, there would be absolutely no discussions about who should get the carries. Why trot out there guys averaging 3.14 and 3.64 ypc when you can get 4.59 out of Crowell.
MAC_32
Footballguy
the team never recovered after his fumble. His blown pass blocking assignment almost got his qb killed. He ran the wrong way on a screen that changed the down and distance from third and manageable to third and 17. I want to re watch the flea flicker, but I think he could have chip blocked that too. If he did, 70 yard td to Rabbit. He didn't so Cushing got another big, clean hit rushing the throw and causing it to be under thrown. Killing another drive.Don't let the box score fool you, he did not have a good game.
shadyridr
Footballguy
crowell had the lowest ypc last week
JaxBill
Footballguy
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Wait, West owners actually are peeved and surprised that he's not starting? But the Crowell owners are delusional, lol.
amnesiac
beer is good
agree he has work to do in all those areas. but damn does he look good running the ball at times.
Football Jones
Footballguy
This is much simpler than some people are making it out to be. The Cleveland staff is going with Crowell because he's their best RB...not by a little bit, but by quite a bit.
Crow's raw skill is exceptional. He's a rookie & will improve on the finer points of the game, but they're trusting him more & more, & you can tell he's their guy. They're finally starting to use him as a receiver. Crow can be a difference-maker in that offense.
Crow's raw skill is exceptional. He's a rookie & will improve on the finer points of the game, but they're trusting him more & more, & you can tell he's their guy. They're finally starting to use him as a receiver. Crow can be a difference-maker in that offense.
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lod01
Footballguy
Those gotta be some tasty cherries you are picking. Try looking at the whole season.
MAC_32
Footballguy
some of us are
DropKick
Footballguy
I'm not sure why you feel the need to quote someone. This situation is so fluid that a week ago West was prime rib and Crowell was chipped beef on toast.
Actually, this regurgitation of internet opinions is starting to get on my nerves... why not just give us your analysis and skip the mindless quotes from Rotoworld, etc.
shadyridr
Footballguy
im just saying (and this was the point of my first post) it was a strange time to make the change since the hot RB has actually been Wes.
i dont own any of these guys but im stuck in cleveland forced to watch this clownshoes team and listen to their fans. i really dont think crowell is all that much better than the west as many ppl in this thread would have you believe. and today he made a ton of mistakes. crowell is pretty good, but so is west. tate looks to be the weakest of the bunch.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Tate is going to get axed come March, probably bring in a veteran that upgrades the passing game.
Chaka
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Yeah I never understood these arguments at all. I mean, if you take away Chris Johnson's longest run he doesn't have a career.
yeah I rolled my eyes when I read that argument. lol. Some people will say anything just to argue
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This may be the last real change of guard at RB absent injury we will see this year. The Browns run more than almost any other team in the league, they're a winning team and they have Gordon coming back. Get a serving now while you can & be thankful.
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Banger
Footballguy
the only time it makes sense is if it's a broken play but if a guy has talent like Crowell then that's part of his game.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I do not own any of the Cleveland RBs and these are my thoughts as well. Crowell and West look decent. Tate looks slow. It seems as though Cleveland is going to split the bulk of the carries between Crowell and West by game. That is strange. Seems like a 50/50 split in most games would make more sense.
Crowell and West should be owned. Tate should not.
wickster33
Footballguy
Not sure I understand what the front office is saying here. It's not like the Saints or Patriots who have specific roles for third down backs and pass catching backs. Tate looks like the best of the pass blockers, so I could easily see him work if they have a pass heavy game plan. Just don't see the difference in style between Tate and Crow, so I don't get how the game plan matters there.
I'm not biased, since I own all three, but Crow looks like the highest upside to me. In the games I've actually seen, he's the quickest and most powerful. I haven't seen enough of him in pass protection, but if he can't block, he'll struggle to stay on the field.
lod01
Footballguy
Well they do have a Shanahan on the payrolls calling the plays.im just saying (and this was the point of my first post) it was a strange time to make the change since the hot RB has actually been Wes.
lod01
Footballguy
lod01
Footballguy
The ATL matchup with Gordon in the lineup should be juicy for whoever does start. No fumbles Crow!!!! Ranked 32nd vs RBs.
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mnmplayer
Footballguy
Crow is clearly the highest ceiling fantasy football back in this offense. But not necessarily the best NFL RB in this offense. Situation and coaching game plan will obviously keep changing week to week so you can't really rely on any of these guys (for now) until one comes out and dominates with no mistakes. Even then I don't trust this coaching staff to stick with a single back for any length of time.
Bronco Billy
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