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Can’t we take solace in the fact most of their technology is stolen and hopefully we have been able to do this for years but kept it top secret?

 
The Chinese are doing this: China's $1 trillion 'artificial sun' fusion reactor just got five times hotter than the sun

Here it is in action: Whoa

Meanwhile we argue about wearing masks in Starbucks, can't figure out how to build bridges, etc.

It was a good run, boys.
NIF is closer to break even than the Chinese fusion work.  Supposedly this work from China will be brought into ITER, but I suppose it's they make some real advancement on their own they could pull out of ITER  and go it alone. 

The "whoa" link is not the fusion reactor, just a launch of some sort.  Totally not related. 

 
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Unlimited cheap labor and a desire for creating is a pretty unbeatable and has been for thousands of years.  Re: the pyramids. 

 
It's amazing what totalitarian state capitalism can do. 
Yes, unfettered power can accomplish works of good. I hope we can see the bigger picture about liberal vs illiberal democracy, however.

Another hot take on the future. Two of the three biggest forces of the 21st century will be declining birth rates and workable fusion. 

 
Is fusion development the new nuclear arms race? I don't really care whether the US or China has it working first because I don't think whichever one does can keep the technology from the other. The world is too big and interconnected.

 
Is fusion development the new nuclear arms race? I don't really care whether the US or China has it working first because I don't think whichever one does can keep the technology from the other. The world is too big and interconnected.
I would say a next step in the industrial revolution.  If we can get one to work it will presumably solve global warming as there will be very limited need for coal, natural gas, and oil. The implications are certainly intriguing if it can be made practical.  

 
I would say a next step in the industrial revolution.  If we can get one to work it will presumably solve global warming as there will be very limited need for coal, natural gas, and oil. The implications are certainly intriguing if it can be made practical.  
Everyone everywhere, save for some of the rulers whose countries' economies depend on fossil fuel extraction, will want workable fusion. The potential for changing the global economy is almost unimaginable.

The concern about that is going unexpressed, and which I can't quantify in words, is how it might be weaponized.

 
Everyone everywhere, save for some of the rulers whose countries' economies depend on fossil fuel extraction, will want workable fusion. The potential for changing the global economy is almost unimaginable.

The concern about that is going unexpressed, and which I can't quantify in words, is how it might be weaponized.
By weaponized do you mean turned into an actual weapon or do you mean used as leverage against other countries?

 
Unlimited cheap labor and a desire for creating is a pretty unbeatable and has been for thousands of years.  Re: the pyramids. 
That unlimited cheap labor is drying up. 

They have a serious problem with their aging population. Their one child policy basically taught a few generations not to procreate. 

The strain of caring for the old is going to be much much worse than the US. 

 
Illiberal states fail. I'm not saying China will, as it seems to be good at mixing a healthy amount of capitalism in with their communism (don't ask me, ask them) but illiberal states and economic systems not almost wholly based on supply and demand always seem to collapse or be overthrown by a public that demands freedom.

I'd look for it in China, too

The strain of caring for the old is going to be much much worse than the US. 
You seem to be assuming a social welfare state that "cares" about and for the elderly. I am not sanguineous that Chinese leadership feels the same way about their infirm, unless it's their own leadership's skin. 

 
I meant the former but I hadn't considered the latter and that's a pretty interesting thought. How would you see fusion being used as leverage in foreign relations?
I don't know if you can build something worse than our current Fusion weapons, thermonuclear weapons. But if you have enough electricity easily and cheaply provided lasers and rail guns become more feasible. Probably the best thing is you're just he's so much richer you can buy and reaerch better things.  Battery technology becomes the next hurtle to overcome unless a fusion reactor would scale down to Supply Power to vehicles.

As far as leverage economic and political;

A. You're richer with all the known benefits of that.  

B.  Your society can perform virtual works of wonder compared to others.

C.  You are probably nearly self sufficient as a country.  

 
Take for instance the drought in the Western United states.   What if you had enough cheap electricity to build desalinization plants on the west coast to supply all the major cities on the west coast with fresh water?  You are no longer reliant on the natural watershed.   

 
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