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Who does he need to prove wrong? They didn't draft any competition, and he still looks to be Dunn's successor. Not sure what you mean.
But do you like Norwood better - THAT is the question...
I love these highly intuitive postings. Great insight here. Now, my 
:I am a Norwood owner and was thrilled with what he showed last year. Without a doubt he outperformed "D Will".However, I don't like the fact that Norwood has a new coaching regime and has no loyalty to him. New coaches are almost always very arrogant and think that they know something no one else knows. The simple fact that Norwood isn't Petrino's guy scares me.Deangelo is in a better situation simply because of the coaching staff. Even though that coaching staff is on the hot seat this year. If Fox falters, all bets are off.As far as talent level, everyone says Williams is better because of where he was drafted and what kinda stats he put up while in college. But I can only go by what I've seen and Norwood has shown me that he's better than Williams at this moment.
I view it as a crap shoot right now.
I think this is really the only thing that should scare people away... and its a big thing. If the coach doesn't want to play you; you don't play. However; Atl used their 4 Day 1 picks very well and filled 3 gapping holes (DE / O-Line / CB). The fact that in the mid 3rd.. they passed on their boy, Micheal Bush, shows me that after pre-draft mini's, Petrino does have Faith In Dunn / Norwood / Mughelli.. if it aint broke, don't fix it. And out of that group, Norwood should get the majority of carries.It would of been interesting if Bush was aval when they picked in the 4th.. I believe they might have even passed then too as LB was a major issue for them even before the Williams injury.
That might not be true.. Foster seems to be Fox's pet project and is very faithful to him. It would be a much better situation for DeWill if Fox got fired this yr.. but the fact that hes kicking around hurts DeWill's value.IMO, for this yr anyway, Norwood gets the edge based on better team and whoes in front. W/ Dunn reaching age 33 and the wear and tear finally kickin in, Atl not going to have a choice but to lean on Norwood.
Fellow Norwood owner in multiple leagues...Normally, I would agree with your statement in the bolded part. However, here is what I see in Atlanta.I love these highly intuitive postings. Great insight here.
Now, my:
I am a Norwood owner and was thrilled with what he showed last year. Without a doubt he outperformed "D Will".
However, I don't like the fact that Norwood has a new coaching regime and has no loyalty to him. New coaches are almost always very arrogant and think that they know something no one else knows. The simple fact that Norwood isn't Petrino's guy scares me.
Deangelo is in a better situation simply because of the coaching staff. Even though that coaching staff is on the hot seat this year. If Fox falters, all bets are off.
As far as talent level, everyone says Williams is better because of where he was drafted and what kinda stats he put up while in college. But I can only go by what I've seen and Norwood has shown me that he's better than Williams at this moment.
I am not sure I understand why someone would say this, please expand why you think this. From what I noticed Foster did just as well as Williams last season, with the exception that Foster is a better blocker. Williams was not very impressive, with a back like Maroney during week 1 I was in awe of this guy, Williams never did anything to make me think he's going to be a stud, I did think he had a great kickoff for a TD but that's on special teams. I'm not defending Foster here, I own neither and will target neither. The Carolina O-line is a huge problem to say the least, they are an average line with no depth so one injury and they are below average, take away Steve Smith and their offense is easily one of the worst in the league. With all that said, Foster will get your some good bang for your buck in leagues while Williams will disappoint. I am starting to lean towards Norwood as having the better career at this point, I think Foster will be back in 08 and probaly quite a while after that too, Dunn is getting up there in age.
I believe darkman is reffering to ff owners. There are a number of ppl who say norwood is too small or fragile to be a featured rb and he's just a change of pace type of rb
Westbrook came into the league at 203 lbs, but is more like 215 at this point. He is not skinny, and has a thick build and very strong legs, which enhances ability to make quick cuts and explode downfield. Besides, there is a huge difference between a 203 lb back that is 6-0, and one that is 5-8. Name another feature back in the NFL that is 6-0 and not close to 220 lbs (at least). Although Norwood is talented and extremely explosive (several of his runs were very impressive), he just doesn't have the build to take the pounding in a feature role. He needs to add a LOT of muscle on his upper body and legs, and those changes would not only be difficult to maintain but may also affect his speed/explosiveness. If you want to compare him to Dunn, I think that is a better comparison...but clearly Dunn was never a guy that could carry the full load for a full season. I like Norwood, but I just don't think he will ever be a feature back, which severely affects his upside.I was impressed with what I saw in Norwood last year...enough that I took him in my rookie dynasty draft. Some people say that he is too small to be an every down starter in the NFL...HOW'S THAT? Westbrook is 5-8, 203...In fact the aging Warrick Dunn is 5-9, 180...Norwood = 6-0, 203. So, he actually compares favorably to Westbrook's size (and speed).
Norwood being too small just does not wash with me....Let's just hope Petrino is smart enough to use him effectively.
You make some good points here... Just curious: What info did you see where Westbrook is at 215? Every resource I see has him between 5-8 and 5-10 and 203.Westbrook came into the league at 203 lbs, but is more like 215 at this point. He is not skinny, and has a thick build and very strong legs, which enhances ability to make quick cuts and explode downfield. Besides, there is a huge difference between a 203 lb back that is 6-0, and one that is 5-8. Name another feature back in the NFL that is 6-0 and not close to 220 lbs (at least). Although Norwood is talented and extremely explosive (several of his runs were very impressive), he just doesn't have the build to take the pounding in a feature role. He needs to add a LOT of muscle on his upper body and legs, and those changes would not only be difficult to maintain but may also affect his speed/explosiveness. If you want to compare him to Dunn, I think that is a better comparison...but clearly Dunn was never a guy that could carry the full load for a full season. I like Norwood, but I just don't think he will ever be a feature back, which severely affects his upside.I was impressed with what I saw in Norwood last year...enough that I took him in my rookie dynasty draft. Some people say that he is too small to be an every down starter in the NFL...HOW'S THAT? Westbrook is 5-8, 203...In fact the aging Warrick Dunn is 5-9, 180...Norwood = 6-0, 203. So, he actually compares favorably to Westbrook's size (and speed).
Norwood being too small just does not wash with me....Let's just hope Petrino is smart enough to use him effectively.
Perhaps b/c Peterson was a bell-cow in college in a conference that plays defense...KellysHeroes said:
AD is 6'2" and only weighs 218.. that about the same as Norwood and I don't hear anyone #####ing that AD can't be an everydown back.Oh wait.. here the best one..Clinton Portis is listed at 5'11" 205 Norwood is listed at 5'11" 204 Hey.. Don't you guys remember this argument from last yr too.. that guy was FWP 5'10" 209
Your basing "williams is not very impressive" off of one rookie season? Yeah neither was Larry Johnson....geeze give the guy a chance to get in the league and get playing time before you write him off...
And by that you mean the couple of nice runs Norwood had in the preseason last year?While I'm not ready to put DWill in Canton just yet either, all Norwood has shown us is he's good in limited duty. DeAngelo showed us for 4 years at Memphis what he's capable of. Norwood can't touch DWill's body of work.
Really??Thats not what that stats indicate.I love these highly intuitive postings. Great insight here.
Now, my:
I am a Norwood owner and was thrilled with what he showed last year. Without a doubt he outperformed "D Will".
However, I don't like the fact that Norwood has a new coaching regime and has no loyalty to him. New coaches are almost always very arrogant and think that they know something no one else knows. The simple fact that Norwood isn't Petrino's guy scares me.
Deangelo is in a better situation simply because of the coaching staff. Even though that coaching staff is on the hot seat this year. If Fox falters, all bets are off.
As far as talent level, everyone says Williams is better because of where he was drafted and what kinda stats he put up while in college. But I can only go by what I've seen and Norwood has shown me that he's better than Williams at this moment.
So the SEC doesn't play defense? Wow, that bit of info will really surprise a lot of ppl
Yeah because the Big 12 plays a lot better Defence than the SEC.
How about adding the fact the Norwood can be drafted round 6 whille Dewill has been going around round 3
WTF does that have to do w/ AD being an everydown backHow come guys like Portis (5'11" 205), FWP (5'10" 209), Tiki Barber (Height: 5'10" 205) and AD (6'2" 218) can be viewed as 3 down / 300+ carry backs.. But Norwood (5'11 204) is seen as a change of pace just because he looks skinny.
DWilly really did not outperform Foster though. Both ended with the same YPC for the season. DWilly may get debunked this year.
Really??Thats not what that stats indicate.I love these highly intuitive postings. Great insight here.
Now, my
I am a Norwood owner and was thrilled with what he showed last year. Without a doubt he outperformed "D Will".
However, I don't like the fact that Norwood has a new coaching regime and has no loyalty to him. New coaches are almost always very arrogant and think that they know something no one else knows. The simple fact that Norwood isn't Petrino's guy scares me.
Deangelo is in a better situation simply because of the coaching staff. Even though that coaching staff is on the hot seat this year. If Fox falters, all bets are off.
As far as talent level, everyone says Williams is better because of where he was drafted and what kinda stats he put up while in college. But I can only go by what I've seen and Norwood has shown me that he's better than Williams at this moment.
Norwood - 633 yds rushing 2 TD 12 rec/102 yds 0 TD
"D Will" 501 yds rushing 1 TD 33 rec/331 yds 1 TD
Nothing to get all that excited about, but to say " without a doubt he outpreformed "D Will" is not very intuitive, or insightful either.
Norwood has some big play ability, and I like him, but prefer DeAngelo right now.
You forgot one small stat...SEC doesn't play defense. That was genius. Instead of embarrassing one liners, stick with the fact that AD dominates Norwood in every physical measurable that exists. Was a beast in college, and was taken in the top 10 overall.I love Norwood, but he has the body of a WR. He has the heart and toughness of a RB. But his body is a total mismatch for his position. Not to say I doubt him, but AD pretty much has the prototypical NFL RB body. Big, cut, fast, strong.Colin Dowling said:
Have you seen them both naked or something
Did you miss the part in bold where I say "Not that Sporstsline is any authority"?
Not that FBG is any greater authority, but even the staff here has DeAngelo ranked 11 spots higher in the dynasty RB list...
Portis is listed at 5'11" 212 on the Washington Redskins website. Peterson is a little over 6'1" and weighs 217. Norwood is listed at 6' 203. All the examples you are using are shorter than Norwood but weigh more.AD is 6'2" and only weighs 218.. that about the same as Norwood and I don't hear anyone #####ing that AD can't be an everydown back.Oh wait.. here the best one..Jedimaster21 said:
Clinton Portis is listed at 5'11" 205
Norwood is listed at 5'11" 204
Hey.. Don't you guys remember this argument from last yr too.. that guy was
FWP 5'10" 209
Tiki was a freak, and had a different running style that enabled him to avoid contact. He was shorter and more stocky than Norwood. The fact that Norwood looks "skinny" bothers me considerably...he just isn't built to be hit a lot.KellysHeroes said:
they had a chance. how many time did he pass on michael bush?. i believe he even passed on bush's backup also.
hey look. another at 6' 1" 212 lbs.
this RB class is pretty weak. Everyone knows that. If they get a chacne to draft someone they really covet, they would do that. So Norwood may have a shot at more time this year for sure, but in dynasty format, this guy CAN be replaced.....and is not a FRANCHISE-type back....
OMG.. 7 pounds.. Maybe he PUT ON 7 POUNDS DURING HIS ####ING CAREERI remember when Portis 1st came out for Denver, he was skinny too.Jedimaster21 said:
OH.. that settles that then.. Hes just a Freak
These are extremely weak responses. IMO, there is a huge difference between 5-11 212 and 6-0 203. The fact is, Norwood hasn't put on any weight, and is more of a straight line runner with long speed. Here is a scouting report from Scouts Inc.Strengths: Is a slashing back with very good quickness and speed. Is a home run threat. Has great initial burst and explodes through the LOS when he finds the right crease. He can bounce the run outside on the second level and he will run away from defenders in daylight. He lacks great bulk and has smallish legs, but he runs hard and has surprising power for his size. He stays low and runs with great pad-level. Will lower his shoulder and show impressive power when taking on defenders. He runs through attempted arm tackles on a consistent basis and he will drag tackler after contact. He pumps his legs and always seems to be falling forward. He is slippery and will fit through small creases. Does a good job of protecting his body and the football as a runner. He shows solid hands and can catch on the run. Has upside as a receiver and possibly as a KOR. Gets by as a cut blocker at the collegiate level Is a team leader and his coaches have nothing but great things to say about his work ethic, toughness and character.
