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Jacobs and Ward owners Week 12 (1 Viewer)

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Looks like Jacobs practiced yesterday and we should get some more updates later today. I have a feeling if he starts he may be limited, as in a few series and than the D. Ward show. I can't afford to plug in Jacobs and get 5 points. I know the Giants are looking for home field through out and are pretty close to it , but do they really start resting Jacobs with 6 games left?

What are people doing with Jacobs this week? What are Ward owners doing this week? What if you own both?

 
I just wonder if they use jacobs for goaline only...that way hes not doing wear and tear but still contributes where he could excel

 
In a TD-heavy league, I'm currently rolling w/ Jacobs, but will have a close eye on the situation around gametime so I can switch if Jacobs is supposed to be out or extremely limited

 
The best scenario for Jacob's owners is that he sits and the Giants lose, and they loose primarily because they can't move the ball on the ground. Seems really unlikely though. With one day of rest, and being back at practice, I think we will see him play and put in his usual game, 15 carries, 75 yards and hopefully some more TD's. I think the "injury" was more of a "bump", he played quite a bit after it occurred. If he is not limited in practice today, feels ok, I think he plays.

We are all making the assumption that they want to enusre Jacobs is healthy for the playoffs, and that's true. But I also believe that they want to keep both Jacobs and Ward healthy. Both are very important to that offense. Why would they take the chance of giving Ward 25 carries this week if they can still use the RBBC. If Jacobs doesn't play we should see a lot more of Bradshaw in this game.

 
If Jacobs plays, I start him. If he doesn't, I will start DeAngelo. I don't see myself starting Ward, as I see Bradshaw getting a lot of looks without Jacobs.

 
Anon said:
The best scenario for Jacob's owners is that he sits and the Giants lose, and they loose primarily because they can't move the ball on the ground. Seems really unlikely though. With one day of rest, and being back at practice, I think we will see him play and put in his usual game, 15 carries, 75 yards and hopefully some more TD's. I think the "injury" was more of a "bump", he played quite a bit after it occurred. If he is not limited in practice today, feels ok, I think he plays. We are all making the assumption that they want to enusre Jacobs is healthy for the playoffs, and that's true. But I also believe that they want to keep both Jacobs and Ward healthy. Both are very important to that offense. Why would they take the chance of giving Ward 25 carries this week if they can still use the RBBC. If Jacobs doesn't play we should see a lot more of Bradshaw in this game.
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If you think giants are going to lose a game solely based on them not being able to move the ball on the ground, you don't know the giants too well. First off, they have a great line. Arguably the best in the league. Secondly, they have 2 solid runners behind Jacobs. Ward has been running a muck all season. He's actually posting better numbers than a bunch of starting rbs in the league. Finally, their passing attack is more than capable of taking over if the run game is off. However, against the cards, the run game will be fully on, regardless of who gets how many touches. Believe it...
 
My 4 RB's (that is all you are allowed on your roster) are Chris Johnson, Westbrook, Portis and Jacobs. I don't have much choice. I'm putting CJ3 in and hope that either Portis or Jacobs goes in the late game. Gonna have to sit by the computer to see who's in. :goodposting:

My choice is Portis then Jacobs

 
p00h said:
Anon said:
The best scenario for Jacob's owners is that he sits and the Giants lose, and they loose primarily because they can't move the ball on the ground. Seems really unlikely though. With one day of rest, and being back at practice, I think we will see him play and put in his usual game, 15 carries, 75 yards and hopefully some more TD's. I think the "injury" was more of a "bump", he played quite a bit after it occurred. If he is not limited in practice today, feels ok, I think he plays.

We are all making the assumption that they want to enusre Jacobs is healthy for the playoffs, and that's true. But I also believe that they want to keep both Jacobs and Ward healthy. Both are very important to that offense. Why would they take the chance of giving Ward 25 carries this week if they can still use the RBBC. If Jacobs doesn't play we should see a lot more of Bradshaw in this game.
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If you think giants are going to lose a game solely based on them not being able to move the ball on the ground, you don't know the giants too well. First off, they have a great line. Arguably the best in the league. Secondly, they have 2 solid runners behind Jacobs. Ward has been running a muck all season. He's actually posting better numbers than a bunch of starting rbs in the league. Finally, their passing attack is more than capable of taking over if the run game is off. However, against the cards, the run game will be fully on, regardless of who gets how many touches. Believe it...
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Agreed.
 
NoCheese said:
In a TD-heavy league, I'm currently rolling w/ Jacobs, but will have a close eye on the situation around gametime so I can switch if Jacobs is supposed to be out or extremely limited
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I don't know if i would say he was extremly limited.. acorrding to CoughlinRB Brandon Jacobs (knee), CB Aaron Ross (hamstring) and LB Chase Blackburn (neck) all practiced.

"They practice limited and apparently did pretty well," Coughlin said. "Nobody was hampered, nobody had to come out, so I would say they did okay."

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...amstring_i.html

 
I will probably play Ward as my flex option in my 12 team league. It's between him, deuce and vjax. I think ward will get more touches than deuce and ward seems like he is about to break off a huge run on almost every play, much like bradshaw.

In my 10 team league I have Jacobs and Ward. I have so many rb's onthat team that it is vapor locking my brain. I have Jacobs starting currently but if I pull Jacobs I may not play Ward in his place. If jacobs is out I'll play Ward in both leagues and might consider Bradshaw but i'd have to bench Turner(not totally crazy against CAR). If Jacobs sits and it is reported that Bradshaw and Ward are splitting carries, I may roll with both. :banned:

 
Brandon Jacobs-RB- Giants Nov. 21 - 2:20 pm et

The Giants have listed Brandon Jacobs (knee) as probable for Week 12. Plaxico Burress (hamstring) is questionable to face Arizona.

Coach Tom Coughlin says both will play if "they are in the right frame of mind" and committed to the game, which is seemingly an indirect shot at Burress. Jacobs is in a contract year and sure to have the right mindset. He should be in fantasy lineups for a 4:15PM ET game, although owners would be smart to have Derrick Ward or Ahmad Bradshaw ready to plug in if needed.

Source: New York Daily News

:shrug:

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Brandon Jacobs-RB- Giants Nov. 21 - 2:20 pm et The Giants have listed Brandon Jacobs (knee) as probable for Week 12. Plaxico Burress (hamstring) is questionable to face Arizona.Coach Tom Coughlin says both will play if "they are in the right frame of mind" and committed to the game, which is seemingly an indirect shot at Burress. Jacobs is in a contract year and sure to have the right mindset. He should be in fantasy lineups for a 4:15PM ET game, although owners would be smart to have Derrick Ward or Ahmad Bradshaw ready to plug in if needed.Source: New York Daily News :lmao:
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Thanks for the update...
 
BustedKnuckles said:
Brandon Jacobs-RB- Giants Nov. 21 - 2:20 pm et

The Giants have listed Brandon Jacobs (knee) as probable for Week 12. Plaxico Burress (hamstring) is questionable to face Arizona.

Coach Tom Coughlin says both will play if "they are in the right frame of mind" and committed to the game, which is seemingly an indirect shot at Burress. Jacobs is in a contract year and sure to have the right mindset. He should be in fantasy lineups for a 4:15PM ET game, although owners would be smart to have Derrick Ward or Ahmad Bradshaw ready to plug in if needed.

Source: New York Daily News

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baha ... that is definitely an indirect shot at Burress :lmao:
 
KellysHeroes said:
blackjack23 said:
The guy is probably. I am definitely starting him
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I'm starting him if hes active... but I am expecting a lesser workload. After Ward and Bradshaw failed at the GL last week, there will be no doubt who gets the TDs
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Maybe I'm over-analyzing the several NYG's game-time decision this week, but....Does anyone think with Plax questionable, and the weekly Tynes/Carney issue, that Jacobs will be MORE likely to play?My thoughts are as follows:1. Hixon can replace Plax this week.2. Coughlin doesn't like having 2 kickers active.3. There aren't enough pratice squad players to plug into the Plax and Jacobs holes.4. Therefore only one of PLAX and JACOBS will be active.5. Jacobs appears to be the healthier of the 2 (Plax and BJ), and thus more likely to start.Any thoughts?
 
Dodds currently has DeAngelo and Addai rated higher according to my league's scoring system, so Jacobs is currently looking at riding the pine for me.

 
p00h said:
Anon said:
The best scenario for Jacob's owners is that he sits and the Giants lose, and they loose primarily because they can't move the ball on the ground. Seems really unlikely though. With one day of rest, and being back at practice, I think we will see him play and put in his usual game, 15 carries, 75 yards and hopefully some more TD's. I think the "injury" was more of a "bump", he played quite a bit after it occurred. If he is not limited in practice today, feels ok, I think he plays.

We are all making the assumption that they want to enusre Jacobs is healthy for the playoffs, and that's true. But I also believe that they want to keep both Jacobs and Ward healthy. Both are very important to that offense. Why would they take the chance of giving Ward 25 carries this week if they can still use the RBBC. If Jacobs doesn't play we should see a lot more of Bradshaw in this game.
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If you think giants are going to lose a game solely based on them not being able to move the ball on the ground, you don't know the giants too well. First off, they have a great line. Arguably the best in the league. Secondly, they have 2 solid runners behind Jacobs. Ward has been running a muck all season. He's actually posting better numbers than a bunch of starting rbs in the league. Finally, their passing attack is more than capable of taking over if the run game is off. However, against the cards, the run game will be fully on, regardless of who gets how many touches. Believe it...
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Did you skip over the part where he said "Seems really unlikely though" :toilet: PS I'm starting Ward in my Flex over Stewart

 
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I think it is more likely that Jacobs will play than not.

I also think it is very very likely that Jacobs will get fewer carries than normal (and fewer than Ward).

I am a Jacobs owner and will be starting Dunn instead of Jacobs...Cardinals has a pretty good run defense and even if Jacobs is playing they will be a little bit more careful with him and put in Ward/Bradshaw some more...Dunn has a soft matchup against Detroit.

 
Howie said:
Dodds currently has DeAngelo and Addai rated higher according to my league's scoring system, so Jacobs is currently looking at riding the pine for me.
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True, but he has Jacobs ranked around 30th overall, with Ward ahead of him. I think there may be some overthinking going on here -- Jacobs is probable, so he's a near lock to play. I don't know how you could possibly bench him with the way he's been playing. He's a stud -- get him in the lineup.
 
talbott said:
Howie said:
Dodds currently has DeAngelo and Addai rated higher according to my league's scoring system, so Jacobs is currently looking at riding the pine for me.
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True, but he has Jacobs ranked around 30th overall, with Ward ahead of him. I think there may be some overthinking going on here -- Jacobs is probable, so he's a near lock to play. I don't know how you could possibly bench him with the way he's been playing. He's a stud -- get him in the lineup.
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I though it was interesting that Jacobs didn't get a little bump in the Friday rankings when he is listed as probable. Maybe today. I guess I'm waiting until warm ups to see if I will play Jacobs or Ward. Anyone think this might be a little gamesmanship on Coughlin's part? Preparing for Jacobs has to be a totally different thing than preparing for Ward or Bradshaw. Now the Cardinals don't really know what the Giants are going to do. Either do we.The thing I worry about the most is if he starts and then they limit him. Roll the dice I guess.
 
Ward is fairly good with Jacobs in the lineup so IMO the safer play would be Ward.

I don't have any luxuries of depth, I'll be playing Jacobs regardless. Even if he just played for a quarter, if he gets a TD I'll be OK.

 
thatguythere said:
talbott said:
Howie said:
Dodds currently has DeAngelo and Addai rated higher according to my league's scoring system, so Jacobs is currently looking at riding the pine for me.
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True, but he has Jacobs ranked around 30th overall, with Ward ahead of him. I think there may be some overthinking going on here -- Jacobs is probable, so he's a near lock to play. I don't know how you could possibly bench him with the way he's been playing. He's a stud -- get him in the lineup.
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I though it was interesting that Jacobs didn't get a little bump in the Friday rankings when he is listed as probable. Maybe today. I guess I'm waiting until warm ups to see if I will play Jacobs or Ward. Anyone think this might be a little gamesmanship on Coughlin's part? Preparing for Jacobs has to be a totally different thing than preparing for Ward or Bradshaw. Now the Cardinals don't really know what the Giants are going to do. Either do we.The thing I worry about the most is if he starts and then they limit him. Roll the dice I guess.
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Jacobs and Ward play the same role as each are big big backs. It's more a theory of wearing down the D than guys with different roles. Each have also played as Tiki's backup and know the O very well. Defenses are preparing for a big back that'll be used often and pounding away at them. I don't think, for preparation, it really matters which.
 
Wooderson said:
I think I'm going to start both.If I can get 200 yards total and 2 TD's I would be happy.
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I have to chose between BJ or Portis.. right now i leaning toward Jacobs as i don't know if Portis can or will play the entire game, which kind of the same problem i having with Jacobs.. Will Couglin cut him short on touches because of the knee problem??
 
I own jacobs and ward. I think I am going to start Kevin Smith over both of them @ RB2 (my league: 0.5ppr, 5pt bonus @ 25 carries & 100 yds)

I may change my mind tomorrow, but leaning towards Smith right now.

 
I already have a solid back with M. Lynch, and expect him to keep it up. . .Now I only need production from my #2 back. Putting in Jacobs leaves me with the probability that Jacobs gets limited or pulled at the half, and Ward finishes up like always. . .or in a fluke the Giants need to run a more explosive offense and really work the passing game, and Ward gets more than usual.

Either way, if Jacobs has been getting 50% of the carries for the team, and think this week %35 or 40% is more likely. . . .neither team has a ton to lose, so overly risking your "beast" RB at this point seems like a bad call from a good coach.

Start Jacobs if you have a long shot win, start ward if you just need to maintain your team.

 
StuntMonkee said:
I already have a solid back with M. Lynch, and expect him to keep it up. . .Now I only need production from my #2 back. Putting in Jacobs leaves me with the probability that Jacobs gets limited or pulled at the half, and Ward finishes up like always. . .or in a fluke the Giants need to run a more explosive offense and really work the passing game, and Ward gets more than usual.

Either way, if Jacobs has been getting 50% of the carries for the team, and think this week %35 or 40% is more likely. . . .neither team has a ton to lose, so overly risking your "beast" RB at this point seems like a bad call from a good coach.

Start Jacobs if you have a long shot win, start ward if you just need to maintain your team.
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I disagree. If the Cardinals win, they will be within 1 game of the Giants with the heads up tiebreaker advantage, leaving very little breathing room for the Giants the rest of the way to secure a #1 or #2 seed. Not to mention Carolina (at 8-2) is currently 1 game back from the Giants, and will likely be tied for the #1 seed should the Giants lose. Suggesting neither team has a much to lose is quite a statement considering the importance of this game as it relates to home field advantage throughout the playoffs for both teams.
 
NoCheese said:
I disagree. If the Cardinals win, they will be within 1 game of the Giants with the heads up tiebreaker advantage, leaving very little breathing room for the Giants the rest of the way to secure a #1 or #2 seed. Not to mention Carolina (at 8-2) is currently 1 game back from the Giants, and will likely be tied for the #1 seed should the Giants lose. Suggesting neither team has a much to lose is quite a statement considering the importance of this game as it relates to home field advantage throughout the playoffs for both teams.
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VERY GOOD point!!! :excited:
 


NoCheese said:
StuntMonkee said:
I already have a solid back with M. Lynch, and expect him to keep it up. . .Now I only need production from my #2 back. Putting in Jacobs leaves me with the probability that Jacobs gets limited or pulled at the half, and Ward finishes up like always. . .or in a fluke the Giants need to run a more explosive offense and really work the passing game, and Ward gets more than usual.

Either way, if Jacobs has been getting 50% of the carries for the team, and think this week %35 or 40% is more likely. . . .neither team has a ton to lose, so overly risking your "beast" RB at this point seems like a bad call from a good coach.

Start Jacobs if you have a long shot win, start ward if you just need to maintain your team.
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I disagree. If the Cardinals win, they will be within 1 game of the Giants with the heads up tiebreaker advantage, leaving very little breathing room for the Giants the rest of the way to secure a #1 or #2 seed. Not to mention Carolina (at 8-2) is currently 1 game back from the Giants, and will likely be tied for the #1 seed should the Giants lose. Suggesting neither team has a much to lose is quite a statement considering the importance of this game as it relates to home field advantage throughout the playoffs for both teams.
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I have been corrected.

With that said, I still think Jacobs plays a smaller roll. And I think this will be more of a shoot out as opposed to a grind it out. Then again, thats if the cardinals control the game. . . .and if so, then Ward becomes the pass catching back. . . .if the giants are controlling the game, they they are most likely up, and resting Jacobs.

Out side of that, I may just be justifying myself starting Ward over Jacobs after several weeks of Jacobs dominating the teams he played against.

 
I have Jacobs and I'm starting him. Although injuries are forcing my hand a little bit, I think he should be good for about 8-12 points.

 
Bradshaw will have some solid yards plus he's their number 1 kick returner, with AZ there are going to be a lot of returns for him.

 
Mimo said:
Fitz is the best. He learned from one of the best as well in Cris Carter.Hines Ward is by far the worst. He jumps for balls all the time and cradles them. Most of the time there is no need to jump, just catch it with the hands. Since he is not a great hands catcher you always see him jump and cradle the ball with the basket catch.
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Estimations on Bradshaw's totals if a) Jacobs plays b) he doesn't?
 
chihawk said:
I think it is more likely that Jacobs will play than not.I also think it is very very likely that Jacobs will get fewer carries than normal (and fewer than Ward).I am a Jacobs owner and will be starting Dunn instead of Jacobs...Cardinals has a pretty good run defense and even if Jacobs is playing they will be a little bit more careful with him and put in Ward/Bradshaw some more...Dunn has a soft matchup against Detroit.
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I agree and am doing the same thing. Don't want to over think it, and Dunn is the better option anyway. I'm thinking the Giants will be cautious with Jacobs simply because they can afford to do so.
 
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