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Jahvid Best """OFFICIAL INJURY THREAD""" (1 Viewer)

PhantomJB

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Similar to the prior Andre Johnson threads, the Jahvid Best threads have deteriorated significantly. Here's a new thread for more fact-based news, insight and analysis only please.

Starting off with an article from this mornings Detroit Free Press.

http://www.freep.com/article/20111021/SPORTS01/110210452/The-Best-case-scenario-Jahvid-Best-Lions-run-game

Jahvid Best was considered an injury risk coming out of college after a concussion ended his junior season at Cal prematurely. Two more concussions in a two-month span this year have heightened worries even more.

But while CBSSports.com reported that Best has been advised by people close to him "to strongly consider sitting out the year" because of his concussion history, the Lions remain hopeful he'll be a big part of their offense going forward -- in this season and beyond.

"I'm not," offensive coordinator Scott Linehan said when asked Thursday how concerned he is about Best's long-term health. "He's a young player, and guys miss some time during the course of a season. I don't have any concerns. I'm sure he'll be out there soon, and he's going to have a long and great career for us."

Best missed his second straight practice Thursday, and several of his teammates said they don't expect him to play in Sunday's game against the Falcons, a loss that would leave the Lions thin at the running-back position.

Maurice Morris and Keiland Williams are the only healthy running backs currently on the roster, and they have just 28 combined carries for 69 yards on the season.

The Lions made a trade-deadline deal for Ronnie Brown on Tuesday, but that fell apart Wednesday when Kalamazoo native and Washington State product Jerome Harrison failed his physical, reportedly because of a brain tumor.

Harrison reverted back to the Lions' roster, though his status going forward is unclear. Neither Harrison nor his agent, Mitch Frankel, responded to messages seeking comment Thursday, and Harrison was listed with an "illness" on the Lions' injury report.

Comcast SportsNet in Philadelphia reported that the tumor was discovered by an MRI after Harrison complained of recurring headaches to Eagles team physician Gary Dorshimer.

"It's unfortunate," said cornerback Eric Wright, who played with Harrison in Cleveland and said he learned about Harrison's condition from media reports. "Just pray for him and hope for the best. I know everything is going to turn out well for him. That's all we can do."

Best's situation isn't as critical.

He made a brief appearance in the Lions' locker room on Wednesday, though Morris said. Best hasn't been in meetings this week because "they kind of want him to stay away from the noise and lights, especially around here."

And Best's agent, Tony Fleming, said he wasn't aware of anyone advising Best to sit out the rest of the season.

"Definitely no truth to him being out for the year at this point," Fleming wrote in a text message. "He will continue to be evaluated on a weekly basis."

Despite Best's history of concussions, doctors not affiliated with him or the Lions say there's no reason to end the running back's season simply based on the number of head injuries he's had.

"Each time somebody gets a concussion, it's a new concussion," said Dr. Richard Figler, who runs the clinical care division of the concussion center at the Cleveland Clinic Sports Health Center. "Concussions themselves, if you treat them appropriately with the guidelines, everyone returns once they're 100% asymptomatic. There are no specific set guidelines that we have to say that two concussions in periods of a month or two months or three months means that someone should never play football again or is out for the season."

Added Dr. Jeffrey Kovan, the head primary care team physician at Michigan State: "We're all trying to make this major push that if you've had two concussions, three concussions, you should sit out a year, however long, maybe a career.

"And the reality (is) that was the old school, the way we did it, and even that was just based on opinion. There was never any science to support it."

Lions coach Jim Schwartz said Best continues to follow the NFL's concussion protocols, which require clearance from an independent neurologist before he returns.

"Like we talked about before, it's not a situation you can tough out, and I think the NFL's been very proactive in what we're doing with concussions," Schwartz said. "We've had some players that have had them, some guys that have missed time and some guys that have gotten back, and I think we'll just take that same approach with Jahvid. As soon as he gets clearance he'll be back."

Will that be this year?

"Oh certainly," Linehan said. "I wouldn't see any other reason, unless anyone tells me otherwise."

 
From cbssports.com:

News: With Jahvid Best (concussion) being ruled out on Friday, it's time for Maurice Morris to step up in the running game for the Lions in Week 7 against the Falcons. "I've been in this situation plenty of times," Morris told the team's official website. "It's one of those things where it's nothing new for me. I'll just go out there and do what I can to help this team continue to win." Coach Jim Schwartz backed Morris on Thursday. "We have a lot of confidence in Maurice Morris," Schwartz said. "Every time we've given him the ball, he's done well. And Keiland's done some good stuff in short yardage/goal-line yardage situations, so we'll be OK."

 
another Best thread? if you guys havent heard, or refuse to want to believe it.. Best is DONE, hes not coming back to play football anytime soon. cut your losses this year

 
another Best thread? if you guys havent heard, or refuse to want to believe it.. Best is DONE, hes not coming back to play football anytime soon. cut your losses this year
Sounds like your handle is spot on. Slow down on the consumption of cheap win my friend. :lmao:
 
another Best thread? if you guys havent heard, or refuse to want to believe it.. Best is DONE, hes not coming back to play football anytime soon. cut your losses this year
i for one am glad we have this new official fact based thread i can come to and read fact based statements like the one above...bravo !!!!
 
Jahvid Best makes on average 1.96 Million dollars over his 5 year contract. He can walk away at any time. Those are both facts. If I am not mistaken he got a 7.1 million dollar signing bonus so the back end of this contract is pretty light. Tony Schleffer missed last week with a concussion and Justin Durant missed the last 3 weeks with concussion. The Lions do not take these things lightly. I would think it is fair to assume that he is going to be out past the lions Bye week, which is 4 weeks away. Does anyone know what grade concussion it was? Grade one I assume? Nothing has come out of Best mouth or twitter account other than he is taking it one day at a time.

Kind of a pointless post, but these are true facts. If I were him, id walk away, so I looking to sell.

 
Here are the timelines for the Durant / Scheffler concussions pieced together from various online sources. Interesting that Scheffler's sounded much more severe yet he is coming back sooner. Durant apparently has a concussion history (missed one game in 2009 w/ Jaguars).

Wk 3 (9/25 = gameday) - Durant suffers concussion when hit late and high on punt return.

Wk 4 (10/2) - Durant goes through post-concussion testing (9/29).

Wk 5 (10/10) - Durant "finally passes concussion tests" and returns to practice (10/7). Scheffler gets hit helmet-to-helmet by Urlacher on MNF. Scheffler sent to hospital after experiencing "tingling down the right side of his body after the hit" and "vomited several times." Durant doesn't play in MNF game. Revealed afterwards (10/11) that Durant had a relapse after returning to practice.

Wk 6 (10/16) - Neither Scheffler nor Durant practice in week 6.

Wk 7 (10/23) - Both Durant and Scheffler pass tests and cleared for Thursday/Friday practices. Both practice on a "limited basis" and listed as probable for 10/23 game).

Total time missed: Durant = 3 games, Scheffler = 1 game.

Interesting quote from Durant prior to setback:

Up until Friday's test, Durant thought he was going to play.

"This is my second (concussion) and the first was a couple of years ago," he said. "This one is not as bad that one."

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111001/SPORTS0101/110010331/Justin-Durant-is-ruled-out-for-Sunday#ixzz1bXiXNSor

And yet in 2009 he missed one game and this year he's missing three games. Maybe speaks to how much more stringent the testing has gotten?

 
Another interesting tibit on Justin Durant's concussion history from 2009.

Linebacker Justin Durant missed his second straight practice Thursday because of a concussion and has not been cleared to play.

Durant says he suffered a "mild concussion" in the third quarter of last week's 24-22 win at the New York Jets. He says he didn't tell anybody and kept playing.Durant doesn't have a headache but feels "cloudy." He underwent baseline testing Thursday but was not cleared to practice.

Durant is second on the team with 83 tackles. He says this is his first concussion "on record" but admitted he's felt like this before.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4671365

 
Is this the Best thread?
In the absence of direct information regarding Jahvid Best, reasonably intelligent people might be able to look at other recently concussed Detroit Lions players to better understand what might or might not happen to Best.
 
There are no new facts, nor do I expect there will be. The best speculation is the Lions will hold Best out until the 11th week bye, and evaluate him then. I can't imagine a scenario where they will bring him back before then.

 
There are no new facts, nor do I expect there will be. The best speculation is the Lions will hold Best out until the 11th week bye, and evaluate him then. I can't imagine a scenario where they will bring him back before then.
This.Except Detroit's bye is week 9.The Detroit doctors should know the risks of repeat concussions and I would expect their plan is to let him rest up through the bye - at a minimum.Then begin to evaluate him the week after their bye to see where he is.Remember, Detroit is just saying he has to pass the doctor's evaluations to play.They may have no timetable for this testing for several weeks.They should be thinking that a third concussion in the same year and he has to be shut down rest of the year.A third concussion could cause career and quality of life consequences after.Common sense would dictate Detroit gives him enough time off so if a third one happens, they do not look like they rushed him back.What is a good common sense timeframe? A month is my best guess. That would have him next playing Carolina in week 11.
 
I have best in all my leagues.

From a selfish standpoint I want him back, but I don't want to see him brain damaged in his mid 20's.

 
'jon_mx said:
There are no new facts, nor do I expect there will be. The best speculation is the Lions will hold Best out until the 11th week bye, and evaluate him then. I can't imagine a scenario where they will bring him back before then.
9th week bye guy?? I think u got it confused.. He should be good to go Week 10 at Chicago.
 
'jon_mx said:
There are no new facts, nor do I expect there will be. The best speculation is the Lions will hold Best out until the 11th week bye, and evaluate him then. I can't imagine a scenario where they will bring him back before then.
9th week bye guy?? I think u got it confused.. He should be good to go Week 10 at Chicago.
Where do you get your info from? Or did you check him out yourself?
 
'jon_mx said:
There are no new facts, nor do I expect there will be. The best speculation is the Lions will hold Best out until the 11th week bye, and evaluate him then. I can't imagine a scenario where they will bring him back before then.
9th week bye guy?? I think u got it confused.. He should be good to go Week 10 at Chicago.
He should be ready to go?Based on what? I think it is more likely he is out for the year. 2 concussions in 2 months is kind of a big deal.
 

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