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Trump campaign operative who delivered Jan. 6 false elector lists is identified

Mike Roman passed the names to a House GOP aide in a bid to get them to then-Vice President Mike Pence, people familiar with the episode told POLITICO.
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A little-known Donald Trump campaign operative delivered lists of false electors to Capitol Hill in a bid to get them to Vice President Mike Pence on Jan. 6, 2021, according to two people familiar with the episode.

Mike Roman, then Trump’s 2020 director of Election Day operations, delivered those false elector certificates — signed by pro-Trump activists in Michigan and Wisconsin — to Rep. Mike Kelly’s (R-Pa.) chief of staff at the time, both people told POLITICO. Kelly was a Trump ally in the effort to overturn the 2020 election, and his then-top aide received the documents from Roman before deputizing a colleague to disseminate copies on Capitol Hill, according to both people.
 
Roman and Epshteyn had their phones seized.

Bernard Kerik got a subpoena. How dumb can you be to get involved in any kind of nefarious behavior after receiving a pardon from Trump? You get everything wiped clean, get a fresh start, and this is how you act?
 
WASHINGTON — Justice Department officials have seized the phones of two top advisers to former President Donald J. Trump and blanketed his aides with about 40 subpoenas in a substantial escalation of the investigation into his efforts to subvert the 2020 election, people familiar with the inquiry said on Monday.

The seizure of the phones, coupled with a widening effort to obtain information from those around Mr. Trump after the 2020 election, represent some of the most aggressive steps the department has taken thus far in its criminal investigation into the actions that led to the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob.

The extent of the investigation has come into focus in recent days, even though it has often been overshadowed by the government’s legal clash with Mr. Trump and his lawyers over a separate inquiry into the handling of presidential records, including highly classified materials, the former president kept at his residence in Florida, Mar-a-Lago.

Federal agents with court-authorized search warrants took phones last week from at least two people: Boris Epshteyn, an in-house counsel who helps coordinate Mr. Trump’s legal efforts, and Mike Roman, a campaign strategist who was the director of Election Day operations for the Trump campaign in 2020, people familiar with the investigation said.

Mr. Epshteyn and Mr. Roman have been linked to a critical element of Mr. Trump’s bid to hold onto power: the effort to name slates of electors pledged to Mr. Trump from swing states won by Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020 as part of a plan to block or delay congressional certification of Mr. Biden’s Electoral College victory.

Key Revelations From the Jan. 6 Hearings
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Making a case against Trump. The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack is laying out a comprehensive narrative of President Donald J. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Here are the main themes that have emerged so far from eight public hearings:

An unsettling narrative. During the first hearing, the committee described in vivid detail what it characterized as an attempted coup orchestrated by the former president that culminated in the assault on the Capitol. At the heart of the gripping story were three main players: Mr. Trump, the Proud Boys and a Capitol Police officer.

Creating election lies. In its second hearing, the panel showed how Mr. Trump ignored aides and advisers as he declared victory prematurely and relentlessly pressed claims of fraud he was told were wrong. “He’s become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff,” William P. Barr, the former attorney general, said of Mr. Trump during a videotaped interview.

Pressuring Pence. Mr. Trump continued pressuring Vice President Mike Pence to go along with a plan to overturn his loss even after he was told it was illegal, according to testimony laid out by the panel during the third hearing. The committee showed how Mr. Trump’s actions led his supporters to storm the Capitol, sending Mr. Pence fleeing for his life.

Fake elector plan. The committee used its fourth hearing to detail how Mr. Trump was personally involved in a scheme to put forward fake electors. The panel also presented fresh details on how the former president leaned on state officials to invalidate his defeat, opening them up to violent threats when they refused.

Strong arming the Justice Dept. During the fifth hearing, the panel explored Mr. Trump’s wide-ranging and relentless scheme to misuse the Justice Department to keep himself in power. The panel also presented evidence that at least half a dozen Republican members of Congress sought pre-emptive pardons.

The surprise hearing. Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide, delivered explosive testimony during the panel’s sixth session, saying that the president knew the crowd on Jan. 6 was armed, but wanted to loosen security. She also painted Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, as disengaged and unwilling to act as rioters approached the Capitol.

Planning a march. Mr. Trump planned to lead a march to the Capitol on Jan. 6 but wanted it to look spontaneous, the committee revealed during its seventh hearing. Representative Liz Cheney also said that Mr. Trump had reached out to a witness in the panel’s investigation, and that the committee had informed the Justice Department of the approach.

A “complete dereliction” of duty. In the final public hearing of the summer, the panel accused the former president of dereliction of duty for failing to act to stop the Capitol assault. The committee documented how, over 187 minutes, Mr. Trump had ignored pleas to call off the mob and then refused to say the election was over even a day after the attack.

Mr. Epshteyn and Mr. Roman did not respond to requests for comment. A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment.

The names of those receiving the latest round of subpoenas in the investigation related to Jan. 6 have dribbled out gradually, with investigators casting a wide net on a range of issues, including Mr. Trump’s postelection fund-raising and the so-called fake electors scheme.

One of the recipients, people familiar with the case said, was Dan Scavino, Mr. Trump’s former social media director who rose from working at a Trump-owned golf course to become one of his most loyal West Wing aides, and has remained an adviser since Mr. Trump left office. Stanley Woodward, one of Mr. Scavino’s lawyers, declined to comment.

Another was Bernard B. Kerik, a former New York City police commissioner. Mr. Kerik, who promoted claims of voter fraud alongside his friend Rudolph W. Giuliani, was issued a subpoena by prosecutors with the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington, his lawyer, Timothy Parlatore, said on Monday. Mr. Parlatore said his client had initially offered to grant an interview voluntarily.

The subpoenas seek information in connection with the fake electors plan.

For months, associates of Mr. Trump have received subpoenas related to other aspects of the investigations into his efforts to cling to power. But in a new line of inquiry, some of the latest subpoenas focus on the activities of the Save America political action committee, the main political fund-raising conduit for Mr. Trump since he left office.

The fact that the Justice Department is now seeking information related to fund-raising comes as the House committee examining the Jan. 6 attack has raised questions about money Mr. Trump solicited under the premise of fighting election fraud.

The new subpoenas encompass a wide variety of those in Mr. Trump’s orbit, from low-level aides to his most senior advisers.

The Justice Department has spent more than a year focused on investigating hundreds of rioters who were on the ground at the Capitol on Jan. 6. But this spring, it started issuing grand jury subpoenas to people like Ali Alexander, a prominent organizer with the pro-Trump Stop the Steal group, who helped plan the march to the Capitol after Mr. Trump gave a speech that day at the Ellipse near the White House.

While it remains unclear how many subpoenas had been issued in that early round, the information they sought was broad.

According to one subpoena obtained by The New York Times, they asked for any records or communications from people who organized, spoke at or provided security for Mr. Trump’s rally at the Ellipse. They also requested information about any members of the executive and legislative branches who may have taken part in planning or executing the rally, or tried to “obstruct, influence, impede or delay” the certification of the presidential election.

By early summer, the grand jury investigation had taken another turn as several subpoenas were issued to state lawmakers and state Republican officials allied with Mr. Trump who took part in a plan to create fake slates of pro-Trump electors in several key swing states actually won by Mr. Biden.

At least 20 of these subpoenas were sent out and sought information about, and communications with, several lawyers who took part in the fake elector scheme, including Mr. Giuliani and John Eastman.

Around the same time, federal investigators seized Mr. Eastman’s cellphone and the phone of another lawyer, Jeffrey Clark, whom Mr. Trump had sought at one point to install as the acting attorney general. Mr. Clark had his own role in the fake elector scheme: In December 2020, he helped draft a letter to Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia, saying that the state’s election results had been marred by fraud and recommending that Mr. Kemp convene a special session of the Georgia Legislature to create a slate of pro-Trump electors.
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Let me guess, there will be a lot of attorney-client privilege claims going on here.

Before I do anything criminal, I should take and pass the bar exam so I can claim that all my correspondence is privileged.
 
The Z Machine said:
Let me guess, there will be a lot of attorney-client privilege claims going on here.

Before I do anything criminal, I should take and pass the bar exam so I can claim that all my correspondence is privileged.
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Claims yes, but it looks like there's evidence of attorneys committing crimes and conspiring with their client to commit crimes, there is no privilege.
 
1:03am: Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes + his new lawyer filed a motion asking to delay his trial and appoint a special master (sound familiar?) to manage discovery in the seditious conspiracy case.


I cannot believe this donkey is the Oath Keepers leader.
 

NBC News Article:​

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Nazi sympathizer and Jan. 6 rioter who claimed he didn't know Congress met at Capitol to be sentenced Thursday​

Federal prosecutors are seeking 6½ years in prison for Timothy Hale-Cusanelli of New Jersey.
 
dozer said:

NBC News Article:​

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Nazi sympathizer and Jan. 6 rioter who claimed he didn't know Congress met at Capitol to be sentenced Thursday​

Federal prosecutors are seeking 6½ years in prison for Timothy Hale-Cusanelli of New Jersey.
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Hale-Cusanelli sentenced to four years in federal prison.

Judge McFadden said that Hale-Cusanelli told a “risible lie” on the stand, that he didn’t know Congress met at the Capitol.

“I disgraced my uniform and I disgraced the country,” Hale-Cusanelli told the judge.
 
Good thread by Ryan Reilly.

>>This New York Post opinion column hides the ball, but it would appear that the conservative FBI special agent here wanted to be a "conscientious objector" to... the arrest of members of a militia group who were at the western tunnel on Jan. 6.

The New York Post opinion column mentions an Aug. 24 raid, and says the FBI special agent objected to the planned arrests on Aug. 19. That's three days after a magistrate judge, on Aug. 16, signed off on arrest warrants for five members of the Florida-based militia group.

There were five individuals arrested in connection with that case. Three of them were arrested in Florida. There are no other Capitol attack arrests in Florida on Aug. 24 in the Justice Department database.

So let's say that this FBI special agent was, on Aug. 24, supposed to help arrest a misdemeanor-only Jan. 6 defendant. That would be Tyler Bensch. In addition to dressing like this and spraying someone in the face with a chemical irritant on Jan. 6, the feds say he had a GoPro.

Setting all else aside, you can see here why the FBI might want to, say, get a copy of that critical GoPro footage rather than issuing a summons and giving him an opportunity to delete the incriminating evidence!

Here's what the feds say the only misdemeanor Capitol defendant arrested in Florida on Aug. 24 did. This is the guy who this FBI special agent apparently thought should've gotten the kid-glove treatment, such as with a court summons.

Can't imagine why the New York Post didn't include these photos in their story!

Also seems clear that the misdemeanors were likely just the opening salvo from DOJ. They've only been charged by criminal complaint. Just imagine what a grand jury can do with this with a boatload more evidence when it comes time for the indictment.

The notion that the FBI isn't, in essence, a conservative-leaning organization is really silly..."<<

 
SoBeDad said:
Good thread by Ryan Reilly.

>>This New York Post opinion column hides the ball, but it would appear that the conservative FBI special agent here wanted to be a "conscientious objector" to... the arrest of members of a militia group who were at the western tunnel on Jan. 6.

The New York Post opinion column mentions an Aug. 24 raid, and says the FBI special agent objected to the planned arrests on Aug. 19. That's three days after a magistrate judge, on Aug. 16, signed off on arrest warrants for five members of the Florida-based militia group.

There were five individuals arrested in connection with that case. Three of them were arrested in Florida. There are no other Capitol attack arrests in Florida on Aug. 24 in the Justice Department database.

So let's say that this FBI special agent was, on Aug. 24, supposed to help arrest a misdemeanor-only Jan. 6 defendant. That would be Tyler Bensch. In addition to dressing like this and spraying someone in the face with a chemical irritant on Jan. 6, the feds say he had a GoPro.

Setting all else aside, you can see here why the FBI might want to, say, get a copy of that critical GoPro footage rather than issuing a summons and giving him an opportunity to delete the incriminating evidence!

Here's what the feds say the only misdemeanor Capitol defendant arrested in Florida on Aug. 24 did. This is the guy who this FBI special agent apparently thought should've gotten the kid-glove treatment, such as with a court summons.

Can't imagine why the New York Post didn't include these photos in their story!

Also seems clear that the misdemeanors were likely just the opening salvo from DOJ. They've only been charged by criminal complaint. Just imagine what a grand jury can do with this with a boatload more evidence when it comes time for the indictment.

The notion that the FBI isn't, in essence, a conservative-leaning organization is really silly..."<<

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Fire him immediately
 
The George Floyd riots were terrible. And anyone who broke the law should be in jail. But to compare that to January 6th is absurd. The George Floyd rioters were a bunch of young punks who likely have never voted in their lives and have no clue how to vote. They saw an opportunity and took it. January 6th was a bunch of old brainwashed people who should have known better. They're not even Republicans. They're in a Cult. For anyone to compare the two is crazy to me. Any violence and destruction of property should be denounced. Only one president ever has been like "eh im cool with my fans tearing up the capital because they like me. Where is my ice cream?" And people here still defend him non stop.
 
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The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, was recorded days after the Jan. 6 insurrection saying his "only regret" about that day is that the group "should have brought rifles," federal prosecutors just revealed in court.

www.nbcnews.com

Oath Keepers leader regretted not having guns on Jan. 6, prosecutors say at seditious conspiracy trial

During opening arguments Monday, the Justice Department played a recording of Stewart Rhodes saying his group "should have brought rifles" to the Capitol.
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squistion said:
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The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, was recorded days after the Jan. 6 insurrection saying his "only regret" about that day is that the group "should have brought rifles," federal prosecutors just revealed in court.

www.nbcnews.com

Oath Keepers leader regretted not having guns on Jan. 6, prosecutors say at seditious conspiracy trial

During opening arguments Monday, the Justice Department played a recording of Stewart Rhodes saying his group "should have brought rifles" to the Capitol.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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Peaceful mass murder
 

Former Proud Boys leader pleads guilty to seditious conspiracy in Jan. 6 Capitol attack​

WASHINGTON – A former leader of the Proud Boys extremist group pleaded guilty Thursday to seditious conspiracy in connection with the group's efforts to halt the certification of the 2020 election.

Jeremy Bertino, 43, acknowledged his role in helping to plan the Proud Boys' participation in the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol and also agreed to cooperate in the government's continuing investigation.

In addition to the sedition charge, Bertino also pleaded guilty to unlawful possession of firearms related to a March search of his home where authorities recovered six guns, including an AR-15 rifle and more than 3,000 rounds of ammunition. Bertino had been barred from possessing firearms and ammunition due to a previous conviction.

In a videotaped deposition before the House committee investigating the Capitol assault, Bertino told lawmakers that membership in the Proud Boys group had "tripled," after then-President Donald Trump urged members to "stand back and stand by" during a 2020 presidential debate.

Bertino faces a maximum of 20 years in prison for seditious conspiracy and up to 10 years in prison for the firearms charge.

The guilty plea comes as five members of the para-military group Oath Keepers, including leader Stewart Rhodes, stand trial on sedition charges in a Washington, D.C., federal court.
 
:lmao: Reflecting on the history of the talking points....remember the "if this is insurrection then so is BLM!@#!@_)#(*_!@)(*#_)(@!#!!!!!!!!!" and the like. Hey, good news, you were right it ISN'T an insurrection....they're getting people on much more significant charges.
 
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