[Javon Walker] Disrespected by the Packers? (1 Viewer)

[BlueOnion]

Last year, Javon Walker believed if the Packers respected him, they would redo his contract even though his contract had two or more years remaining on it. Therefore, Walker intrepreted the Packers' FO actions as disrespectful.

 

[sho nuff]

Did Walker call that disrespectful? Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

 

[thatguy]

Did Walker call that disrespectful? Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Lighten up man. It doesn't seem to me that he has any sort of agenda.

 

[Killerclown]

he had one good year and wanted a new contract and the team said no, we need to see more before you get a new deal. His contract was front loaded and with 2 years left he wanted a new deal. How was he disrepected ?

 

[BlueOnion]

he had one good year and wanted a new contract and the team said no, we need to see more before you get a new deal. His contract was front loaded and with 2 years left he wanted a new deal. How was he disrepected ?

It is my understanding that Walker made the assumption that the Packers' FO does redo contracts with 2 or more years remaining on the contracts if the Packers' FO does respect the player in question.

 

[sho nuff]

Did Walker call that disrespectful? Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Lighten up man. It doesn't seem to me that he has any sort of agenda.

Yeah...its not as if Blue is in every Driver/Walker thread basically badmouthing the organization.

 

[sho nuff]

he had one good year and wanted a new contract and the team said no, we need to see more before you get a new deal. His contract was front loaded and with 2 years left he wanted a new deal. How was he disrepected ?

It is my understanding that Walker made the assumption that the Packers' FO does redo contracts with 2 or more years remaining on the contracts if the Packers' FO does respect the player in question.

How did you come up with that?

 

[Perfect Tommy]

Sure the Packers disrespected Walker. He didn't deserve respect and the FO was right not to respect him. They have shown tremendous respect to Brett Favre and to Donald Driver. Again, the respect was well deserved. Kudos to the Pack!

 

[BlueOnion]

Did Walker call that disrespectful?  Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Lighten up man. It doesn't seem to me that he has any sort of agenda.

Yeah...its not as if Blue is in every Driver/Walker thread basically badmouthing the organization.

How many links would you like to post I made defending the Packers, a Packer player or the Packer FO?

 

[BlueOnion]

Sure the Packers disrespected Walker. He didn't deserve respect and the FO was right not to respect him. They have shown tremendous respect to Brett Favre and to Donald Driver. Again, the respect was well deserved. Kudos to the Pack!

This is a completely fair statement and I can live with this.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

 

[BlueOnion]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

Is giving someone no respect not the same as being disrespectful?

 

[Big Score]

Just a quick FYI.

Supposedly Walker is about as sharp as a bowling ball.

Given that, I doubt he feels disrespected. That is too big & complicated a word for him.

However...he might feel that he's been dissed

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

Is giving someone no respect not the same as being disrespectful?

Sure....But not giving something to someone does not mean you are being disrespectful.

If I ask you for $1000 and you say no, does that mean you are disrespecting me?

 

[Pipes]

I voted no...Though I do believe the Packer front office is not at all blameless in the whole Javon Walker fiasco.

 

[Big Score]

I do believe the Packer front office is not at all blameless in the whole Javon Walker fiasco.

That's Pipes. you know darn good & well that this all Walkers fault.

 

[sho nuff]

Did Walker call that disrespectful?  Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Lighten up man. It doesn't seem to me that he has any sort of agenda.

Yeah...its not as if Blue is in every Driver/Walker thread basically badmouthing the organization.

How many links would you like to post I made defending the Packers, a Packer player or the Packer FO?

Irrelevant to the last few days really given the topic of this poll and the topics in which you are involved that I referenced above.

 

[sho nuff]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

Is giving someone no respect not the same as being disrespectful?

Why do you assume they gave him no respect? Because Walker said so?

 

[cstu]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

Is giving someone no respect not the same as being disrespectful?

Sure....But not giving something to someone does not mean you are being disrespectful.

If I ask you for $1000 and you say no, does that mean you are disrespecting me?

Yes, if I give it to someone who has done less for me than you have.

 

[Traders2001]

Walker signed a contract and after 1 year he wants to redo , he ( Walker ) is disrepectful not the Packers. You dont need to be a brain surgeon to figure that one out.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

Is giving someone no respect not the same as being disrespectful?

Sure....But not giving something to someone does not mean you are being disrespectful.

If I ask you for $1000 and you say no, does that mean you are disrespecting me?

Yes, if I give it to someone who has done less for me than you have.

And in this case, its who??

 

[Big Score]

Did Walker call that disrespectful? Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Believe it or not sho nuff, Walker did say it was disrespectful and I do have a link.

Walker’s bigger problem was with Thompson, the Packers’ general manager, who refused to renegotiate his contract because he had two years left on the deal.

“I said, ‘Let’s just talk about it,”’ Walker said. “It was just a flat-out, disrespectful ‘No.”

www.packersnews.com

 

[sho nuff]

Did Walker call that disrespectful?  Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Believe it or not sho nuff, Walker did say it was disrespectful and I do have a link.

Walker’s bigger problem was with Thompson, the Packers’ general manager, who refused to renegotiate his contract because he had two years left on the deal.

“I said, ‘Let’s just talk about it,”’ Walker said. “It was just a flat-out, disrespectful ‘No.”

www.packersnews.com

That is proving that they said "no" was disrespectful...and my wording sucks in that first post...I was getting more at the actions of the front office and other things that onion has been getting at.But as I did say...did he just think them saying no was disrespectful? And if so...so the hell what?

 

[cstu]

How is it DISrespectful?

Just because Walker felt disrespected does not mean it was.

Is giving someone no respect not the same as being disrespectful?

Sure....But not giving something to someone does not mean you are being disrespectful.

If I ask you for $1000 and you say no, does that mean you are disrespecting me?

Yes, if I give it to someone who has done less for me than you have.

And in this case, its who??

That's what the judgement call comes in. Walker obviously thought that he's the best WR on the team and wanted a new contract and felt disrespected when he didn't get it. You see guys with two years left get new contracts all time - when they are respected.

 

[Big Score]

Did Walker call that disrespectful?  Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Believe it or not sho nuff, Walker did say it was disrespectful and I do have a link.

Walker’s bigger problem was with Thompson, the Packers’ general manager, who refused to renegotiate his contract because he had two years left on the deal.

“I said, ‘Let’s just talk about it,”’ Walker said. “It was just a flat-out, disrespectful ‘No.”

www.packersnews.com

That is proving that they said "no" was disrespectful...and my wording sucks in that first post...I was getting more at the actions of the front office and other things that onion has been getting at.But as I did say...did he just think them saying no was disrespectful? And if so...so the hell what?

Not to get technical, but walker didn't just say the "No" was only disrespectful.He said it was "a flat-out disrespectful No"

See, that "flat-out" part, makes all the difference in the world.

 

[Ozymandias]

Disrespect...mishrespect...What a bunch of crap.

It's all about bargaining. He rolled the dice in insisting on a new contract, and the Packers rolled the dice in saying no.

So what's Walker going to say now? "I was a butthole for insisting on a new contract??????" Sheesh. "I was a butthole for wanting more money????" Sheesh.

So he plays the martyr and says: "It was all about them flat out disrespecting me."

What nobility.

 

[T Man]

he had one good year and wanted a new contract and the team said no, we need to see more before you get a new deal.  His contract was front loaded and with 2 years left he wanted a new deal.  How was he disrepected ?

It is my understanding that Walker made the assumption that the Packers' FO does redo contracts with 2 or more years remaining on the contracts if the Packers' FO does respect the player in question.

I voted NO. The Packers simply said no at the time. There was nothing that said they wouldn't have renegotiated last year had he done well.Nonetheless, they must respect Driver, since he had two yars remaining and they have redone his contract. So much for the Packers do not renegotiate with more then one year remaining on a contract

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Did Walker call that disrespectful?  Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Lighten up man. It doesn't seem to me that he has any sort of agenda.

Huh? He's a part-time Packer hater.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Well, I don't think it was necessarily disrepect. However, it certainly could've been handled better by both parties. A situation just doesn't go from good to bad. It takes time and a serious lack of communication. Both parties are at fault.

 

[fatness]

It's all about bargaining. He rolled the dice in insisting on a new contract, and the Packers rolled the dice in saying no.

He got his new contract in Denver, so he got what he wanted. The Packers got a rookie WR in Jennings who may be pretty good in the NFL. It'll take at least one whole season, maybe more, to see how the dice roll works out for the Packers.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

It's all about bargaining.  He rolled the dice in insisting on a new contract, and the Packers rolled the dice in saying no.

He got his new contract in Denver, so he got what he wanted. The Packers got a rookie WR in Jennings who may be pretty good in the NFL. It'll take at least one whole season, maybe more, to see how the dice roll works out for the Packers.

Don't forget the 4 draft picks!

 

[jetsman]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Did Walker call that disrespectful?  Or just that they said no?

Got a link to go along with this foolish attempt at proving something?

Lighten up man. It doesn't seem to me that he has any sort of agenda.

Yeah...its not as if Blue is in every Driver/Walker thread basically badmouthing the organization.

Exactly. Sorry, but this is nothing more than another post by a viking-fan tool that is pissed off because their sorry-### team can't finish the job....

 

[Challenge Everything]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

This is good stuff here. GOLD Jerry... GOLD!!!!

 

[sho nuff]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

Link to Favre holding out? (though Walker did not either).Retirement is in players contracts...holding out for more money is not.

Retirement is not a breach of the contract...holding out is.

No hypocrisy at all actually.

Brett's actions have what? Hmm...funny how Walker claims it had little to nothing to do with it actually.

But nice try.

 

[Ozymandias]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

Brett will cry all year in an agony of sorrow, because you disrespected him.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

Just when I thought the Favre haters couldn't get any worse......andWOW

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

Brett will cry all year in an agony of sorrow, because you disrespected him.

This is pathetic too. I'm serious Joe....you need to set up a forum for the Favre and Packer haters.

 

[Perfect Tommy]

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year? I'd be calling him a hypocrite and Yeah, I'd feel disrespected, I was a Huge Brett Favre fan, he led my teams to many fantasy bowls over the years, but his actions concerning javon and the games he played holding the team hostage has made me lose all respct for him... Chmura said it all, and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

but while Brett goes out a loser at 5-11 this year, Javon will be fighting to win a championship in Denver. so in the end it evens out.

And I suppose all those personal tragedies were just his bloated ego seeking attention as well. The legend has done nothing to tarnish his image. He has conducted himself with the kind of honor that demands admiration.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

It looks like the Walker supporters/Packer haters are getting in this poll.

 

[Big Score]

You know, to begin with, I really thought this was a joke of a poll.

But the fact that nearly 1 out of 3 people think the Pack disrespected Walker, does not bode well.

Bit of a for the organization.

If 1 out of 3 NFL players sees the Pack in the same light, it's gonna be tough for them to sign FA's at market prices.

 

[Airbus79]

As a Packer fan, I can say "disrespect" my ###! Walker only had one big year and he had to prove that it wasn't a fluke year. While Walker was whining, Driver posted three years of solid stats plus being a great team player and getting involved in the community charity work.

Driver definitely deserved the contract extension. A great public relations move for the Packers by keeping one of fan favorites in Frozen Tundra for a few more years.

Last year, Javon Walker believed if the Packers respected him, they would redo his contract even though his contract had two or more years remaining on it. Therefore, Walker intrepreted the Packers' FO actions as disrespectful.

 

[sts911911]

You know, to begin with, I really thought this was a joke of a poll.

But the fact that nearly 1 out of 3 people think the Pack disrespected Walker, does not bode well.

Bit of a for the organization.

If 1 out of 3 NFL players sees the Pack in the same light, it's gonna be tough for them to sign FA's at market prices.

OH NO!!! PACKERS ARE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Big Score]

You know, to begin with, I really thought this was a joke of a poll.

But the fact that nearly 1 out of 3 people think the Pack disrespected Walker, does not bode well.

Bit of a for the organization.

If 1 out of 3 NFL players sees the Pack in the same light, it's gonna be tough for them to sign FA's at market prices.

OH NO!!! PACKERS ARE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit being such a little Drama Queen sts911911.

Possibly paying above avg FA market prices...

...does not equate to the Packer's being doomed

 

[sho nuff]

You know, to begin with, I really thought this was a joke of a poll.

But the fact that nearly 1 out of 3 people think the Pack disrespected Walker, does not bode well.

Bit of a for the organization.

If 1 out of 3 NFL players sees the Pack in the same light, it's gonna be tough for them to sign FA's at market prices.

I doubt the players see it that way...they are not as ignorant as alot of the people on this board.Poll should be changed...did Walker disrespect the Green Bay Packers?

 

[Big Score]

...they are not as ignorant as alot of the people on this board.

Jeez but you're insultingly arrogant

 

[sho nuff]

38 PM]...they are not as ignorant as alot of the people on this board.

Jeez but you're insultingly arrogant

Maybe...but do you read some of these posts?

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year?

Not quite the same actually.

and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

The definition of ignorance...speaking when you do not know...just this week Javon is quoted as saying it basically had nothing to do with Favre.

 

[Big Score]

38 PM]...they are not as ignorant as alot of the people on this board.

Jeez but you're insultingly arrogant

Maybe...but do you read some of these posts?

when your QB calls you out for holding out, questioning your team spirit, and then that QB does the same thing the next year?

Not quite the same actually.

and no doubt Brett's actions regarding Javon's coming back from his holdout, and subsequent injury have alot to do with Walker's feelings of betrayal and disrespect.

The definition of ignorance...speaking when you do not know...just this week Javon is quoted as saying it basically had nothing to do with Favre.

Few of the 32 people (and counting) who voted in a way that you don't like posted....so yeah...you're insultingly arrogant.

 

[jetsman]

Sho Nuff isnt Arrogant, He's Just Clueless, The fact that Javon wont trash a Teammate in print is seen as a bad thing. Javon has a problem with that alright. The Fact that teammates Like Chmura and Freeman have come out and questioned Brett's actions are lost on Sho nuff. I wish I could repeat what I personaly was told by a former Jets assistant coach with firsthand knowledge of the situation, but I'm sure it will come out eventually, so have your fun. just remember that not everything said between teammates is public knowledge.

Actually I have to respect Javon because he has handled it as well as he has. It isn't the definition of Ignorance as Big Score has said, its actually a teammate keeping things out of press when it doesnt belong there. I'm not a packer hater either... I just listen to what I'm told and look to see what happens after.

 

[Big Score]

That will go over like a lead ballon with the Packer faithful.