Jay Ajayi's knee: Countdown to retirement (1 Viewer)

[georg013]

Just thought I would create a safe space for the all of the doomsday prophets and Lamar Miller hopefuls to vent and discuss his knee. This way, others can discuss Ajayi's skill set and role in his other threads. You are welcome.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

So if it isnt what you want to talk about it goes to another thread? Lamar Millers impact, Ajayis skill set and knee are all tied into each other when discussing his value.

 

[georg013]

This is the perfect place to talk about it!

 

[alvarndc]

It's a shame how often this is appropriate

Proverbs 26:4

 

[Braktastic]

This thread should launch a .wav file of bone scrapping on bone when opened.

 

[georg013]

This thread should launch a .wav file of bone scrapping on bone when opened.

Lol

 

[voiceofunreason]

I'll start a list of guys who fell to the 5th round due to injury and had good careers

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[spider321]

Lamar Miller owners: He's improved every year and he was a top 5 RB for 4 games last year!!!!

Everyone else: Who?

Does that about sum up the other thread?

 

[georg013]

I'll start a list of guys who fell to the 5th round due to injury and had good careers

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All jokes aside, ever since news came out about his knee (WHICH I DO ACKNOWLEDGE AS IMPORTANT), it seems that is ALL we talk about with this guy. There is zero discussion about what he brings to the table as a running back. The fact is, right NOW he is healthy and ready to play. Has been for some time now. The knee is not keeping him out of camp, limiting reps, or putting him on PUP. Some of us would like to know how he fits the Dolphins's scheme without a reference to his knee falling off. It's ALL that is discussed so I thought if I created an island for all of the knee enthusiasts, maybe just maybe, we can actually discuss how his play translates to the NFL. I mean, he did actually play last season right? Perhaps we can separate the two and figure out why such a doomed player was even drafted by the Dolphins with a great young back rostered (Lamar Miller) in the first place.

 

[cstu]

I'll start a list of guys who fell to the 5th round due to injury and had good careers

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All jokes aside, ever since news came out about his knee (WHICH I DO ACKNOWLEDGE AS IMPORTANT), it seems that is ALL we talk about with this guy. There is zero discussion about what he brings to the table as a running back. The fact is, right NOW he is healthy and ready to play. Has been for some time now. The knee is not keeping him out of camp, limiting reps, or putting him on PUP. Some of us would like to know how he fits the Dolphins's scheme without a reference to his knee falling off. It's ALL that is discussed so I thought if I created an island for all of the knee enthusiasts, maybe just maybe, we can actually discuss how his play translates to the NFL. I mean, he did actually play last season right? Perhaps we can separate the two and figure out why such a doomed player was even drafted by the Dolphins with a great young back rostered (Lamar Miller) in the first place.

He's a very talented RB, best behind Gurley and Gordon IMO.

I don't think you can separate his ability from his knee issue because the knee will likely be what prevents him from being trusted as a teams primary RB.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

How is "missing an ACL" the same as "bone on bone?"

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

How is "missing an ACL" the same as "bone on bone?"

Really?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

How is "missing an ACL" the same as "bone on bone?"

Really?

Uh, yeah, really. Those aren't the same thing.Cartilage isn't the same as an ACL.

 

[Sabertooth]

Don't even try Alex.

 

[Sabertooth]

The uncertainty around his knee, coupled with the uncertainty surrounding Miller have me backing of the J train. Even if he's fine for a while, they will most likely have other guys in there competing with him.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

How is "missing an ACL" the same as "bone on bone?"

Really?

Uh, yeah, really. Those aren't the same thing.Cartilage isn't the same as an ACL.

They both are important to the stability of the knee. But keep with the agenda.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

How is "missing an ACL" the same as "bone on bone?"

Really?

Uh, yeah, really. Those aren't the same thing.Cartilage isn't the same as an ACL.

They both are important to the stability of the knee. But keep with the agenda.

What agenda? You wrote something idiotic and I corrected you.Keep deflecting from your lack of knowledge though, it is working well for you.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Well, since no one else will even mention it.

Didnt Hines Ward play with bone on bone (Missing his ACL) and have a highly successful hall of fame type career?

When he came out of college it was discovered that Ward was missing an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee, which he lost during a bicycle accident during childhood.[4][5] According to a Yahoo! Sports article, Ward broke his kneecap in the fourth grade and the doctors never accounted for the ligament.[6] He received his bachelor's degree in consumer economics from UGA.

Some teams passed on him 3 times.

How is "missing an ACL" the same as "bone on bone?"

Really?

Uh, yeah, really. Those aren't the same thing.Cartilage isn't the same as an ACL.

They both are important to the stability of the knee. But keep with the agenda.

What agenda? You wrote something idiotic and I corrected you.Keep deflecting from your lack of knowledge though, it is working well for you.

Classy. Agenda.

Tell me what the bolded underline red text says?

Thanks for correcting me though.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/anterior_cruciate_ligament_acl_injuries-health/article_em.htm

What is an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury?An anterior cruciate ligament, or ACL, injury is a tear in one of the knee ligaments that joins the upper leg bone with the lower leg bone. The ACL keeps the knee stable.

Injuries range from mild, such as a small tear, to severe, such as when the ligament tears completely or when the ligament and part of the bone separate from the rest of the bone.

Without treatment, the injured ACL is less able to control knee movement, and the bones are more likely to rub against each other. This is called chronic ACL deficiency. The abnormal bone movement can also damage the tissue (cartilage) that covers the ends of the bones and can trap and tear the pads (menisci) that cushion the knee joints. This damage can lead to osteoarthritis.

 

[mr roboto]

VB123 has got to be schtick right? There's no way that's real.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Thanks for agreeing with me. ACL injuries aren't the same as a bone-on-bone condition.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

VB123 has got to be schtick right? There's no way that's real.

LHUCKS part deux

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Thanks for agreeing with me. ACL injuries aren't the same as a bone-on-bone condition.

I just showed you a link showing that no ACL can result in bone on bone from a medical point not just "Keatons" opinion and I agree with you?

Do you think not having an ACL doesnt wear down the cartilage over time and cause bone on bone? If you say no, doctors disagree with you.

Is it always schtick when people disagree with you and provide info that goes against what you are arguing?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Thanks for agreeing with me. ACL injuries aren't the same as a bone-on-bone condition.

I just showed you a link showing that no ACL can result in bone on bone from a medical point not just "Keatons" opinion and I agree with you?

Do you think not having an ACL doesnt wear down the cartilage over time and cause bone on bone? If you say no, doctors disagree with you.

Is it always schtick when people disagree with you and provide info that goes against what you are arguing?

I'll let others read the back and forth....and draw their own conclusions.

 

[Shutout]

Shew...Thought he announced his retirement today and I missed it. I know the world expects it.

Remember when Stephen Davis ran for 1300+ after microfracture surgery and had several good seasons...even though docs said athletes can't come back from that at the time?

Remember when people said Damryius Thomas might never be an impact player after he tore his Achilles?

Is that Thomas Davis still playing at a high level after three ACL tears?

Docs haven't found a way to measure and universally chart "want to" yet. Something tells me since Ajayi has been dealing with this since 2011, he "wants to". Sure, the body can say at any day "sorry, bub..you're done" but we haven't seen any indication of that yet and as a NFL RB, EVERY player is one play away from being done.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Thanks for agreeing with me. ACL injuries aren't the same as a bone-on-bone condition.

I just showed you a link showing that no ACL can result in bone on bone from a medical point not just "Keatons" opinion and I agree with you?

Do you think not having an ACL doesnt wear down the cartilage over time and cause bone on bone? If you say no, doctors disagree with you.

Is it always schtick when people disagree with you and provide info that goes against what you are arguing?

I'll let others read the back and forth....and draw their own conclusions.

I'm not worried about "others conclusions", just because you have friends that will support you against another on a message board is no conclusion of significance. A fact is that not having an ACL will cause bone on bone issues, a fact, not an opinion. Since the cartilage will rub together it will dissolve over time, in fact, that is why Ajayis knee is under scrutiny. He tore his ACL and it caused the cartilage to wear.

So imagine the wear of the cartilage of the players with no ACL like Ward, I bet that stayed in tip top shape and never was bone on bone over his many years in the NFL.

But I'm the one making idiotic statements as you said earlier, when in actuality I'm providing information not opinions off an agenda like yourself.

Sorry, but a player who tore his ACL in his Freshman year and who still has the ability to put up the tape that had the NFL loving his talent in subsequent years until the knee worries panicked them (much like you), who didnt even wear a knee brace in minicamp should panic my opinion of his ability over the next 5-6 years why? Because the NFL passed on him for four rounds? Because people like you dont like him? Sorry, his opinion like Ajayi saying he is OK seems important to me. Oh, and the fact that he is still running just fine like a stud tells me otherwise.

The knee panic is too much and the current state of his ability is not being appreciated like it should.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

You guys should really take advantage of the board's "Ignore User" feature. The less we feed the troll, the sooner he'll lose interest. And please stop quoting him for those of us ignoring already. TIA.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

You guys should really take advantage of the board's "Ignore User" feature. The less we feed the troll, the sooner he'll lose interest. And please stop quoting him for those of us ignoring already. TIA.

How am I a troll? I'm providing another perspective for those who do not think Ajayis career is over before it started. That was your first post in this thread and it was a trolling post and has nothing to do with Ajayi.

Discussing his knee in a thread for his knee, and I am the one who should be put on ignore? I see why so many lack certain information, they ignore the people providing it because they disagree with them and they dont like it.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

You guys should really take advantage of the board's "Ignore User" feature. The less we feed the troll, the sooner he'll lose interest. And please stop quoting him for those of us ignoring already. TIA.

Apologies. I'm not on the board that often anymore, thus not as aware of which posters are LHUCKS part 2

 

[VarsityBlues123]

You guys should really take advantage of the board's "Ignore User" feature. The less we feed the troll, the sooner he'll lose interest. And please stop quoting him for those of us ignoring already. TIA.

Apologies. I'm not on the board that often anymore, thus not as aware of which posters are LHUCKS part 2

More talk of this instead of Ajayi? Why even visit the thread then? I have provided that your reason was proven wrong and now you deflect and avoid the discussion all together. I would have deflected too if I was arrogant in my trolling and was proven wrong. Maybe for the best.

I am ready to continue talking about Ajayi at any time.

 

[pghrob]

It's a shame how often this is appropriate

Proverbs 26:4

The Secret?

 

[VarsityBlues123]

It was so active in here yesterday.



So is the Ajayi knee talk in a Ajayi knee thread done?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 2h2 hours ago

Jay Ajayi is being helped off the field by a trainer. Holding his right arm/elbow.

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Knee injury moved up to his elbow.

 

[tangfoot]

InjuryProneTM

 

[Shutout]

Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 2h2 hours ago

Jay Ajayi is being helped off the field by a trainer. Holding his right arm/elbow.

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Knee injury moved up to his elbow.

probably the dreaded ACL-bow. It's a career killer.