Agreed, I actually think this will help the Raiders move forward. Garcia is an experienced QB with fuel left in the tank and can mentor Russell. This may be all Russell needs to mature into a good starting NFL QB.can't hurt.
I think a football man in charge of the team and better WR's would work better.Agreed, I actually think this will help the Raiders move forward. Garcia is an experienced QB with fuel left in the tank and can mentor Russell. This may be all Russell needs to mature into a good starting NFL QB.can't hurt.
If this is true, I like it. Garcia comes in with tons of experience and could be a great mentor plus he fills a backup role that the Raiders were worried about.Agreed, I actually think this will help the Raiders move forward. Garcia is an experienced QB with fuel left in the tank and can mentor Russell. This may be all Russell needs to mature into a good starting NFL QB.can't hurt.
Yes, he should startThank you, Red, for sharing. Garcia would help mentor Russell and possibly start, imo.
If he is signed ther is no way does he start. Absolutely no way unless there is an injury.Yes, he should startThank you, Red, for sharing. Garcia would help mentor Russell and possibly start, imo.
I agree, no way do they start Jeff Garcia, Russell started looking good at the end of the season last year in only his first year starting. I personally was impressed with what Russell did the last three games of the season considering the WR talent he had to work with. IMO the Raiders would be making a huge mistake starting Garcia over Russell. Garcia will be a backup only.If he is signed ther is no way does he start. Absolutely no way unless there is an injury.Yes, he should startThank you, Red, for sharing. Garcia would help mentor Russell and possibly start, imo.
Good point and OAK was playing decent teams in NE, HOU and TB. His rushing yards disappeared. What do you think changed to cause this? Did the pass d get better or what?I agree, no way do they start Jeff Garcia, Russell started looking good at the end of the season last year in only his first year starting. I personally was impressed with what Russell did the last three games of the season considering the WR talent he had to work with. IMO the Raiders would be making a huge mistake starting Garcia over Russell. Garcia will be a backup only.If he is signed ther is no way does he start. Absolutely no way unless there is an injury.Yes, he should startThank you, Red, for sharing. Garcia would help mentor Russell and possibly start, imo.
This move makes ZERO sense.

McCown is the favorite as of now. Josh Johnson is probably second. Most do not expect Griese to have a chance to start, and could be a camp casualty ... if not before.McCown or Griese in Tampa?
yeah, that's really out of character for oakland.This move makes ZERO sense.
I would love it if he signed, but I agree, I don't see how its possible. He doesn't want to go somewhere as a backup, and if he comes to Oakland, that is exactly what he'll be. And a darn good one at that. I think that if he doesn't sign somewhere before the draft, he hangs around until someone suffers an injury in training camp. Just myseriously doubt it. garcia wants to play, his window is closing, someone who needs a starter will sign him. & whytf would he want to play back up in oakland?makes no sense.

Let's see what happens. If it doesn't pan out, there's always the IP ban...is this the same source that had the ocho cinco scoop?
I guess this is what I was thinking as well. Has Garcia ever been a good "mentor" for anyone? More likely he comes in and undermines the young QB's because he thinks he should be the one starting.I would love it if he signed, but I agree, I don't see how its possible. He doesn't want to go somewhere as a backup, and if he comes to Oakland, that is exactly what he'll be. And a darn good one at that. I think that if he doesn't sign somewhere before the draft, he hangs around until someone suffers an injury in training camp. Just myseriously doubt it. garcia wants to play, his window is closing, someone who needs a starter will sign him. & whytf would he want to play back up in oakland?makes no sense.![]()
That sounds more like the Al Davis we know. You remember Lamont Jordan?I wonder if this move is a reaction to the Cutler trade?I'm sure they feel like they have a better chance to compete now and this would prevent Denver from signing Garcia (which I assume they didn't want to do anyway, otherwise they already would've)
uuuhhh....we needed a rb at the time. we don't need a qb. :debatable:That sounds more like the Al Davis we know. You remember Lamont Jordan?I wonder if this move is a reaction to the Cutler trade?I'm sure they feel like they have a better chance to compete now and this would prevent Denver from signing Garcia (which I assume they didn't want to do anyway, otherwise they already would've)
Not referring to the signing of Jordan. I'm talking about the keeping of him when we didn't need him and he cost a lot.uuuhhh....we needed a rb at the time. we don't need a qb. :debatable:That sounds more like the Al Davis we know. You remember Lamont Jordan?I wonder if this move is a reaction to the Cutler trade?I'm sure they feel like they have a better chance to compete now and this would prevent Denver from signing Garcia (which I assume they didn't want to do anyway, otherwise they already would've)
Yes, he should startThank you, Red, for sharing. Garcia would help mentor Russell and possibly start, imo.

Exclusive: Jeff Garcia Negotiating With Raiders
By NBC Bay Area Sports
The 39 year-old quarterback will have the opportunity to compete for the starting position with JaMarcus Russell
Not a chance.If Garcia is willing to accept a backup role, I actually love the move. A guy with a work ethic like JG has can have a positive effect on a young, sometimes lazy guy like Russell. We can only hope some of that rubs off. He's a perfect "mentor" if both parties are willing.DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
When did "common sense" start becoming predictors of Al Davis' behavior?DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
beat me to itWhen did "common sense" start becoming predictors of Al Davis' behavior?DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
It actually makes perfect sense, but let's not waste another opportunity to bash Al Davis.beat me to itWhen did "common sense" start becoming predictors of Al Davis' behavior?DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense

does that sound anything like garcia? dude has made his career being 'scrappy' no way he's content holding a clipboard.If Garcia is willing to accept a backup role, I actually love the move. A guy with a work ethic like JG has can have a positive effect on a young, sometimes lazy guy like Russell. We can only hope some of that rubs off. He's a perfect "mentor" if both parties are willing.DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
it doesn't make sense for garcia.When did "common sense" start becoming predictors of Al Davis' behavior?DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
this guy gets it.I do not see how this does not make sense for the Raiders. The question is does it make sense for Garcia.
He's not 25 years old anymore. HIS contentness is of nobody's concern.Holding a clipboard for an NFL salary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unemployment.does that sound anything like garcia? dude has made his career being 'scrappy' no way he's content holding a clipboard.If Garcia is willing to accept a backup role, I actually love the move. A guy with a work ethic like JG has can have a positive effect on a young, sometimes lazy guy like Russell. We can only hope some of that rubs off. He's a perfect "mentor" if both parties are willing.DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
he won't be unemployed for long. the other side of the bay is a way more likely place for him to end up. as well as det, minn, sea or nyjHe's not 25 years old anymore. HIS contentness is of nobody's concern.Holding a clipboard for an NFL salary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unemployment.does that sound anything like garcia? dude has made his career being 'scrappy' no way he's content holding a clipboard.If Garcia is willing to accept a backup role, I actually love the move. A guy with a work ethic like JG has can have a positive effect on a young, sometimes lazy guy like Russell. We can only hope some of that rubs off. He's a perfect "mentor" if both parties are willing.DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
plus, you agree with me.He's not 25 years old anymore. HIS contentness is of nobody's concern.Holding a clipboard for an NFL salary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unemployment.does that sound anything like garcia? dude has made his career being 'scrappy' no way he's content holding a clipboard.If Garcia is willing to accept a backup role, I actually love the move. A guy with a work ethic like JG has can have a positive effect on a young, sometimes lazy guy like Russell. We can only hope some of that rubs off. He's a perfect "mentor" if both parties are willing.DA RAIDERS said:still makes no sense
Russell could use a veteran influence like that of Garcia.This signing would make perfect sense.This move makes ZERO sense.![]()
Maybe he is just found that he is very content in life with his hot wife and likes the idea of collecting a paycheck as kind of a player/coach. I know I would be. Like I said before, this makes perfect sense for the Raiders. The only real question really was is Garcia willing and ready to pretty much call it a career and sit on the sidelines rather than look to start somewhere.I like the signing, should it happen. This is exactly what Russell needs. I laugh at the idea that people think they know what's better for Garcia. Maybe he doesn't want to move to some other city to start for part of the season and only be there for 1 or 2 years, tops. Maybe he wants to take a mentoring role with a young QB in the Bay area - where he lived for the early part of his NFL career?
Kudos to you and your source.red said:FWIW jeff Garcia will sign early next week with the raiders. I don't have a link but trust me on my inside source here; it's VERY reliable.
Exclusive: Jeff Garcia Negotiating with Raiders
By NBC BAY AREA SPORTS
Updated 12:52 PM PDT, Mon, Apr 6, 2009
Jeff Garcia in Silver and Black?
Yes.
NBC Bay Area has confirmed Garcia is negotiating a deal with the Oakland Raiders. The contract could be finalized as early as Sunday.
A source close to the negotiations tells NBC Bay Area Sports Director Raj Mathai a deal is "close. It will probably get done."
The 39 year-old quarterback will have the opportunity to compete for the starting position with JaMarcus Russell, though Garcia will likely serve as a backup.
This will be a homecoming for Garcia, who grew up in Gilroy and graduated from San Jose State University. Garcia was also a 3-time Pro Bowler with the 49ers earlier this decade. He spent the last two seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.