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I doubt it. He also has Alex Smith past 32 as well. Both AZ QB's are rated above both of these guys. For 1QB leagues these guys are retreads, but for those of us in 2QB leagues the rankings get skewed a bit. I can eliminate his rankings, but don't want to if there is some sort of analysis behind these low rankings.
I think Flacco is below average as a QB, but Id like to see you name 22 QBs youd rather have.His upside is limited, but his floor is high as a QB2. He wont end up worse than a mid level QB2 if he stays healthy in all liklihood.
Do you define mid level QB2 as QB14-18? Cause if thats the case odds are obviously on your side, but outside of this preseason, and one playoff game last year, Flacco has been nothing but a constant disappointment. He finished 17th last year in my main league ahead of Tebow and behind Freeman.1.Brady2.Brees3.Rodgers4.Stafford5.Newton6.Manning7.Manning8.Ryan9.Rivers10.Romo11.Cutler12.Vick13.Roethlisberger14.Freeman15.RG316.Schaub17.Fitzpatrick18.Dalton19.Smith20.Luck21.Wilson22.Weedon23.Palmer24.Cassel25.Bradford26.Skeltom27T.Mccoy, Gabbert, Sanchez, Flacco
Not sure how to answer this. Yes, I think he will finish in the QB15-20 range but has almost no shot to finish higher. Besides injury, I doubt he finishes lower as well. What you see is what you get with Flacco. Also, the OP said he was rated QB30+ so while you may say odds are on my side, I posted because I thought the OP rankings are pretty absurd.Ive never drafted Flacco, and dont plan to anytime soon. While Im no fan, if you are going to rate him amongst the worst QBs in the league judging by your list, youre severely underrating him.
Almost no shot?
Bold.
Thats redraft thinking BTW, Dynasty I would take Luck over him and consider RGIII
Barring multiple QB1 injuries, yes.I think guys like Cutler and Schaub are really being underrated this year. I think Luck and RG3 both have a pretty good chance at outscoring Flacco this year. I think Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Freeman all have more upside than Flacco.
And you come down on which side again? And why?Flacco's last three years have been (I've got to believe) historically consistent. He's literally been between 3610-3622 yards for three straight years, along with 20-25 TD's. I've never seen anything like it.
I suspect he will hang with Matt Ryan this year; guesstimating 45% chance of Flacco outscoring him overall. Excellent value vs Ryan ADP-wise IMO.
You're letting personal dislike cloud your logical ability.17th wasn't his "best year" of course. Indeed, his average finish is better than that. But even if we do him a disservice and call that his average year...you're saying this model of consistency...who puts up the same stats year after year...that you expect him to "continue" to be terrible...to "continue" to be what he is...which has proven to be a 3600/22 guy, pretty much...and that this production is suddenly going to make him the 33rd best fantasy QB in the league somehow?
I didnt label him 33rd, but is there any difference between the QB18-150? Are they all unrosterable outside of a 2QB league? I am being biased, you're right his best season wasnt QB17. You are seeing an empty cup half full.To say he is a mid/bottom QB2 is doing him justice, and everyone else a great injustice. The minute amount of hype he has garnered this preseason is leading people to believe he can be something more, I submit that he cannot. He may prove me wrong and if he does thats great.
Pass Rk G Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A1 1 2011-09-11 26-238 BAL PIT W 35-7 * 17 29 58.6% 224 3 0 117.6 7.72 9.792 2 2011-09-18 26-245 BAL TEN L 13-26 * 15 32 46.9% 197 1 2 51.2 6.16 3.973 3 2011-09-25 26-252 BAL STL W 37-7 * 27 48 56.3% 389 3 0 103.6 8.10 9.354 4 2011-10-02 26-259 BAL NYJ W 34-17 * 10 31 32.3% 163 0 1 37.4 5.26 3.815 5 2011-10-16 26-273 BAL HOU W 29-14 * 20 33 60.6% 305 0 1 78.5 9.24 7.886 6 2011-10-24 26-281 BAL JAX L 7-12 * 21 38 55.3% 137 1 1 61.0 3.61 2.957 7 2011-10-30 26-287 BAL ARI W 30-27 * 31 51 60.8% 336 0 1 72.0 6.59 5.718 8 2011-11-06 26-294 BAL PIT W 23-20 * 28 47 59.6% 300 1 0 85.4 6.38 6.819 9 2011-11-13 26-301 BAL SEA L 17-22 * 29 52 55.8% 255 1 1 67.4 4.90 4.4210 10 2011-11-20 26-308 BAL CIN W 31-24 * 17 27 63.0% 270 2 1 105.5 10.00 9.8111 11 2011-11-24 26-312 BAL SFO W 16-6 * 15 23 65.2% 161 1 0 100.1 7.00 7.8712 12 2011-12-04 26-322 BAL CLE W 24-10 * 10 23 43.5% 158 0 0 66.9 6.87 6.8713 13 2011-12-11 26-329 BAL IND W 24-10 * 23 31 74.2% 227 2 1 102.5 7.32 7.1614 14 2011-12-18 26-336 BAL SDG L 14-34 * 23 34 67.6% 226 2 2 81.3 6.65 5.1815 15 2011-12-24 26-342 BAL CLE W 20-14 * 11 24 45.8% 132 2 1 73.6 5.50 5.2916 16 2012-01-01 26-350 BAL CIN W 24-16 * 15 19 78.9% 130 1 0 112.7 6.84 7.89 16 Games 312 542 57.6% 3610 20 12 80.9 6.66 6.40
The difference is that instead of playing TEN, STL, NYJ, HOU, JAX, ARIZ, SF, INDY and SD (All teams that had good defenses last year and limited offenses) the Ravens will be playing PHI, NE, KC, DAL, HOU, OAK, SD, WASH, DEN, and NYG (mostly teams with high power offenses). I will be surprised if the Ravens are not playing from behind more often this year and being forced to pass more often.
"The difference" isn't ####. The Ravens were better than most of the teams they played last year, they'll be better than most of the teams they play this year.Flacco was "good enough" to pilot them to 12 wins last year, and the year before. His job is as safe as any in the league. He'll put up at least another 3600/20, and if he does, his chances of finishing the year 33rd are zero.
Yes, Joe Flacco managed all those games where Ray Rice racked up 400 touches. Joe Flacco sacked all those QBs and picked off the rest. The Ravens were better than all of the teams they played last year (except NE), and it had very little to do with Flacco. I stand by my opinion, we obviously disagree.
7 games with less than 200 yards, 10 games with 0 or 1 TDs. Thats enough right there for me to not want him as my backup.'Run It Up said:
Most ridiculous post of the year so far?
Pretty bad
Saw the thread, got this far, and ....see you beat me to it!!
It's horrible but amazingly he's had far worse posts.
He had worse posts today.
Taking that stupid f-ing sack when it was already 41 - 13 cost me in 2 games... thanks
Not even im that good. But if you would forward them to me or just start a topic id love to read over them.
some serious crow to be eaten here
Oof.
