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Jennings or Harrison for Cleveland this week? KC up next (1 Viewer)

Who is going to start?

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I keep getting the feeling Jennings will have a big day against the woeful Chiefs defense.

I am thisclose to starting him over Mendenhall and Ganther. :shrug:

I don't believe for a second Cribbs will get anywhere near the majority of the carries. I think it's hogwash.

 
I've got Jennings riding my bench for the moment.

Considering adding him to my lineup if that "questionable" label on Cribbs gains traction.

Here's hoping for another "limited" practice for Joshua tomorrow.

 
Doing a lot of research on cleveland RBs this week. Either way, a cleveland RB had 20 carries only 4 times this year including last game against the Steelers. It was a weird game in which the Browns had the lead and Jennings was given the closer role. I don't expect the Browns to shut out KC the same way. The Browns have kept division games competitive most of the year but when it comes to teams outside of the division, they give up a lot of points. If they end up playing from behind, I don't expect Jennings to be given a huge amount of carries; most likely he'll have around 13-16. There should be a decent amount of points put up by both teams this week as both are poor defenses and it may end up like the Lion / Browns game earlier this year where both QBs go off. Harrison will play a role in this and so will Cribbs. Harrison plays during passing downs and should get the receptions and Cribbs will definitely cut into the touches as it seems they run the wildcat more when they have the lead or the game is competitive. However, anyone believing Cribbs will be used as a RB is being ridiculous. It's hard to believe it's just that easy for a WR to switch to RB midseason at the drop of a hat. Finally, there has only been one rushing TD by a cleveland back all year and that was last week. The upside on Jennings is still there as any RB with around 15 carries against KC should put up good yardage but his ceiling isn't as high as some people might think. 110 yards from scrimmage sounds like a reasonable ceiling but I'm expecting him to get more of around 50-80 rushing yards on 15 carries and no TD. In order to get over 100 yards, he'll probably need a lot of carries. It took harrison 29 carries and OT to get 121 against the Bengals and Lewis 31 to get 117 against the Bills. They were up both games so they could run the ball a lot. Could the Browns be up this game against KC? It's definitely possible but it would almost have to happen to guarantee Jennings gets 20 touches and over 100 yards. Also, the Lions run D sucked and they were up by a ton but on 24 carries Lewis only got 75 yards. Yeah, Jennings could be immensely better than Lewis and Harrison but does anyone really think that? The offensive line will lower the ceiling on all of these backs regardless of who they face.

 
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tigerz said:
Doing a lot of research on cleveland RBs this week. Either way, a cleveland RB had 20 carries only 4 times this year including last game against the Steelers. It was a weird game in which the Browns had the lead and Jennings was given the closer role. I don't expect the Browns to shut out KC the same way. The Browns have kept division games competitive most of the year but when it comes to teams outside of the division, they give up a lot of points. If they end up playing from behind, I don't expect Jennings to be given a huge amount of carries; most likely he'll have around 13-16. There should be a decent amount of points put up by both teams this week as both are poor defenses and it may end up like the Lion / Browns game earlier this year where both QBs go off. Harrison will play a role in this and so will Cribbs. Harrison plays during passing downs and should get the receptions and Cribbs will definitely cut into the touches as it seems they run the wildcat more when they have the lead or the game is competitive. However, anyone believing Cribbs will be used as a RB is being ridiculous. It's hard to believe it's just that easy for a WR to switch to RB midseason at the drop of a hat. Finally, there has only been one rushing TD by a cleveland back all year and that was last week. The upside on Jennings is still there as any RB with around 15 carries against KC should put up good yardage but his ceiling isn't as high as some people might think. 110 yards from scrimmage sounds like a reasonable ceiling but I'm expecting him to get more of around 50-80 rushing yards on 15 carries and no TD. In order to get over 100 yards, he'll probably need a lot of carries. It took harrison 29 carries and OT to get 121 against the Bengals and Lewis 31 to get 117 against the Bills. They were up both games so they could run the ball a lot. Could the Browns be up this game against KC? It's definitely possible but it would almost have to happen to guarantee Jennings gets 20 touches and over 100 yards. Also, the Lions run D sucked and they were up by a ton but on 24 carries Lewis only got 75 yards. Yeah, Jennings could be immensely better than Lewis and Harrison but does anyone really think that? The offensive line will lower the ceiling on all of these backs regardless of who they face.
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:fishing: Nice summary with some history. Jennings will be the lead RB, but I see Cribbs getting a few Wild Cat touches to reduce Harrison's value. Nothing more than a WR4/Flex role IMO, but some projections have Cribbs at 21 fantasy pts (about 7 carries for 50 yards, 6 rec 60 yards, 1 TD type numbers) while Jennings is projected for 5 pts (50 yards) and Harrison 7 pts (30 yards rush, 3 rec 35 yards).Granted, it's all a cr@p shoot until they get on the field. FWIW: I am starting Cribbs over Sydney Rice (atleast right now that is the case....subject to change)
 
Birdie048 said:
tigerz said:
Doing a lot of research on cleveland RBs this week. Either way, a cleveland RB had 20 carries only 4 times this year including last game against the Steelers. It was a weird game in which the Browns had the lead and Jennings was given the closer role. I don't expect the Browns to shut out KC the same way. The Browns have kept division games competitive most of the year but when it comes to teams outside of the division, they give up a lot of points. If they end up playing from behind, I don't expect Jennings to be given a huge amount of carries; most likely he'll have around 13-16. There should be a decent amount of points put up by both teams this week as both are poor defenses and it may end up like the Lion / Browns game earlier this year where both QBs go off. Harrison will play a role in this and so will Cribbs. Harrison plays during passing downs and should get the receptions and Cribbs will definitely cut into the touches as it seems they run the wildcat more when they have the lead or the game is competitive. However, anyone believing Cribbs will be used as a RB is being ridiculous. It's hard to believe it's just that easy for a WR to switch to RB midseason at the drop of a hat. Finally, there has only been one rushing TD by a cleveland back all year and that was last week. The upside on Jennings is still there as any RB with around 15 carries against KC should put up good yardage but his ceiling isn't as high as some people might think. 110 yards from scrimmage sounds like a reasonable ceiling but I'm expecting him to get more of around 50-80 rushing yards on 15 carries and no TD. In order to get over 100 yards, he'll probably need a lot of carries. It took harrison 29 carries and OT to get 121 against the Bengals and Lewis 31 to get 117 against the Bills. They were up both games so they could run the ball a lot. Could the Browns be up this game against KC? It's definitely possible but it would almost have to happen to guarantee Jennings gets 20 touches and over 100 yards. Also, the Lions run D sucked and they were up by a ton but on 24 carries Lewis only got 75 yards. Yeah, Jennings could be immensely better than Lewis and Harrison but does anyone really think that? The offensive line will lower the ceiling on all of these backs regardless of who they face.
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:fishing: Nice summary with some history.

Jennings will be the lead RB, but I see Cribbs getting a few Wild Cat touches to reduce Harrison's value. Nothing more than a WR4/Flex role IMO, but some projections have Cribbs at 21 fantasy pts (about 7 carries for 50 yards, 6 rec 60 yards, 1 TD type numbers) while Jennings is projected for 5 pts (50 yards) and Harrison 7 pts (30 yards rush, 3 rec 35 yards).

Granted, it's all a cr@p shoot until they get on the field.

FWIW: I am starting Cribbs over Sydney Rice (atleast right now that is the case....subject to change)
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For God's sake man, don't do that.
 
I've been searching all over to try to get some insight on what Cleveland is going to do without much luck. Anyone with any insight on how they plan to divy up the carries? This is a fantastic matchup as KC has been brutal against the run especially the last 2 weeks so I'm extremely tempted to play Jennings but nervous as well...

 
tigerz said:
Doing a lot of research on cleveland RBs this week. Either way, a cleveland RB had 20 carries only 4 times this year including last game against the Steelers. It was a weird game in which the Browns had the lead and Jennings was given the closer role. I don't expect the Browns to shut out KC the same way. The Browns have kept division games competitive most of the year but when it comes to teams outside of the division, they give up a lot of points. If they end up playing from behind, I don't expect Jennings to be given a huge amount of carries; most likely he'll have around 13-16. There should be a decent amount of points put up by both teams this week as both are poor defenses and it may end up like the Lion / Browns game earlier this year where both QBs go off. Harrison will play a role in this and so will Cribbs. Harrison plays during passing downs and should get the receptions and Cribbs will definitely cut into the touches as it seems they run the wildcat more when they have the lead or the game is competitive. However, anyone believing Cribbs will be used as a RB is being ridiculous. It's hard to believe it's just that easy for a WR to switch to RB midseason at the drop of a hat. Finally, there has only been one rushing TD by a cleveland back all year and that was last week. The upside on Jennings is still there as any RB with around 15 carries against KC should put up good yardage but his ceiling isn't as high as some people might think. 110 yards from scrimmage sounds like a reasonable ceiling but I'm expecting him to get more of around 50-80 rushing yards on 15 carries and no TD. In order to get over 100 yards, he'll probably need a lot of carries. It took harrison 29 carries and OT to get 121 against the Bengals and Lewis 31 to get 117 against the Bills. They were up both games so they could run the ball a lot. Could the Browns be up this game against KC? It's definitely possible but it would almost have to happen to guarantee Jennings gets 20 touches and over 100 yards. Also, the Lions run D sucked and they were up by a ton but on 24 carries Lewis only got 75 yards. Yeah, Jennings could be immensely better than Lewis and Harrison but does anyone really think that? The offensive line will lower the ceiling on all of these backs regardless of who they face.
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Don't be a stranger, nice post
 
If the Browns can nurse a lead I'd expect a 3 way RBBC with Jennings and Cribbs dominating carries. If the Chiefs at home against a lesser team can play with a lead then it'll be Cribbs and Harrison dominating carries.

 
In 2009 Jerome Harrison has gotten his first 4 games with 10 or more offensive touches. So far here are the results.

Baltimore 21 touches - 85 yards

Cincinnati 34 touches - 152 yards

Chargers 17 touches - 97 yards 2 TD

Chiefs 36 touches - 298 yards 3 TD

In 2008 he averaged 7.2 yards per carry (only 34 carries) with 1 game of 4 touches 101 yards 1 TD

In 2007 he averaged 6.2 yards per carry (only 23 carries)

His detractors will say he's not big enough to be an every down back.

Jerome Harrison 5'9" 205

Barry Sanders 5'8" 200

Walter Payton 5'10" 200

Tony Dorsett 5'11" 192

Obviously I'm not comparing his talent to these players, merely pointing out that his size should not be a limiting factor.

His sample size is still very limited, but hasn't he deserved the opportunity to get at least 10 touches per game?

 
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Oof, another TD, 286 yards rushing and 3 TDs. :goodposting:

Third most yards in NFL history.

 
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Shark Pool knowledge was on full display here this week. I didn't have the answers either but if you knew the outcome of this, you likely are sitting in the finals next week in your league...WOW

 
So who saw this coming? 286 rushing yards, 12 receiving yards, 3 TDs. In other words; 47 FF points in standard scoring.

I guess in a way I should be relieved I didn't make the playoffs after this because I don't think there's any way i would have played Harrison after his abysmal performance vs Pit and how messy that RB situation had become in Cleveland.

Would have haunted me for a while had I not made it thru to the next round, but with 47 points left on the bench.

 
BlackMagic10 said:
So who saw this coming? 286 rushing yards, 12 receiving yards, 3 TDs. In other words; 47 FF points in standard scoring.I guess in a way I should be relieved I didn't make the playoffs after this because I don't think there's any way i would have played Harrison after his abysmal performance vs Pit and how messy that RB situation had become in Cleveland.Would have haunted me for a while had I not made it thru to the next round, but with 47 points left on the bench.
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He was on my bench today and I don't really see how I could have justified starting him. Damn shame, but how could you run him out there unless all of your other RB's were hurt?
 
Cheesedawg said:
BlackMagic10 said:
So who saw this coming? 286 rushing yards, 12 receiving yards, 3 TDs. In other words; 47 FF points in standard scoring.I guess in a way I should be relieved I didn't make the playoffs after this because I don't think there's any way i would have played Harrison after his abysmal performance vs Pit and how messy that RB situation had become in Cleveland.Would have haunted me for a while had I not made it thru to the next round, but with 47 points left on the bench.
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He was on my bench today and I don't really see how I could have justified starting him. Damn shame, but how could you run him out there unless all of your other RB's were hurt?
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:thumbup: :unsure: :wall: :wall: Two leagues, two starts for Jennings with Harrison on my bench. How could I start Harrison when Jennings was far better last week? I, too, tried to find answers this morning and along with everyone else, had no clue. For the record, I've liked Harrison and wondered why he never got more opportunities. I think the coaches in Cleveland must be really dumb, because they don't seem to like getting the ball in the hands of their best players, Cribbs and Harrison. They also went with Derek Anderson for no reason and let him suck it up really bad. They ran Braylon and Winslow out of town. Incompetence on display.
 
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