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Hate to think the obvious things ,bad ice cube perhaps?
My friend is one of the waitresses there and she says there are crazy amounts of drugs being done right out in the open. I'm not saying Shockey was doing anything illegal, but there is a possibility. I hope not (fantasy owner).I've passed out at the pool there.
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Who did he drop to make the move?
The blurb had the words unconscious, pool, and Vegas in it so I feared the worst. Glad that it was something he'll recover from.
He was just having a good time in Vegas and got his drink on a bit too much in the sun. Not a big deal. I'll be pissed if the NFL gets involved and tries to slap a fine on him or something.
You've got it wrong. Harvin was sick at an airport so it's a character issue. Shockey passed out at a bar so it's no big deal.Probably was out drinking with Percy Harvin.
Billy Miller outscored Shockey last year. And yes, that includes when you average it out per game. I'm just sayin'.coolnerd said:
Shockey switched teams, had surgery during the middle of the season and still ended up with 50 receptions and 483 yards.Billy Miller outscored Shockey last year. And yes, that includes when you average it out per game. I'm just sayin'.coolnerd said:
Yep, there's always an excuse for him.If you could actually get him cheaply (like anywhere near what his production over the past couple of years would put him) I might consider picking him up. But there are way too many guys out there who still think he's a top 4/5 type guy for that to happen.My opinion is that he's a slightly above average (starting NFL) talent but has injury and character issues that drop his value considerably.2002 NYG 15 127 74 894 12.1 22003 NYG 9 70 48 535 11.1 22004 NYG 15 95 61 666 10.9 6 2005 NYG 15 122 65 891 13.7 72006 NYG 15 115 66 623 9.4 72007 NYG 14 93 57 619 10.9 32008 NO 12 72 50 483 9.7 0In a 7 year career, he's never had more than 7 TDs, never had a full season, and never broke 900 yards, despite a ton of opportunity for the most part. His only truly excellent season was in '05. All the others have been "meh". The Giants decided he really wasn't worth the trouble any more, and I basically concur. It's just always something with this guy, and he DOESN'T have the outrageous talent to make up for it.Shockey switched teams, had surgery during the middle of the season and still ended up with 50 receptions and 483 yards.Billy Miller outscored Shockey last year. And yes, that includes when you average it out per game. I'm just sayin'.coolnerd said:
This is where I fall on Shockey. I see owners taking him as TE1 and I would prefer Miller as my TE2. I cannot imagine the distraction will be welcomed again. And, it was reported a while ago that Shockey wants a new deal. Hard to take that too seriously, but he seems like a guy that will always be a thorn in management's side. I expect Miller to be the value play ... while I let someone else take/worry about Shockey.Yep, there's always an excuse for him.If you could actually get him cheaply (like anywhere near what his production over the past couple of years would put him) I might consider picking him up. But there are way too many guys out there who still think he's a top 4/5 type guy for that to happen.Shockey switched teams, had surgery during the middle of the season and still ended up with 50 receptions and 483 yards.Billy Miller outscored Shockey last year. And yes, that includes when you average it out per game. I'm just sayin'.coolnerd said:
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My opinion is that he's a slightly above average (starting NFL) talent but has injury and character issues that drop his value considerably.
2002 NYG 15 127 74 894 12.1 2
2003 NYG 9 70 48 535 11.1 2
2004 NYG 15 95 61 666 10.9 6
2005 NYG 15 122 65 891 13.7 7
2006 NYG 15 115 66 623 9.4 7
2007 NYG 14 93 57 619 10.9 3
2008 NO 12 72 50 483 9.7 0
In a 7 year career, he's never had more than 7 TDs, never had a full season, and never broke 900 yards, despite a ton of opportunity for the most part. His only truly excellent season was in '05. All the others have been "meh". The Giants decided he really wasn't worth the trouble any more, and I basically concur. It's just always something with this guy, and he DOESN'T have the outrageous talent to make up for it.
Billy Miller is four years older than Shockey. His best season was in 2002. And Shockey has had better numbers than Miller every year but last year. If Miller was the answer NO never would have signed Shockey.
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