Jermichael Finey to be cleared soon (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

The player rep for free agent Jermichael Finley (neck surgery) told PFT Finley's doctor is "99.9 percent certain" he'll be cleared for contact in 3-4 weeks.
Finley underwent single-fusion spinal surgery on two vertebrae in November. The agent, Blake Baratz, stated immediately following the procedure that Finley "has every intention of resuming his football career." Finley will likely have to settle for a one-year contract in free agency on a "prove-it" deal after such a scary injury. He's Rotoworld's No. 3 free agent tight end, behind Jimmy Graham and Dennis Pitta. Finley turns 27 years old in March.

Rotoworld - http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/282698/agent-jermichael-finley-will-be-cleared-soon

 

[KellysHeroes]

i knew he would return to the money after that retirement talk

 

[buck naked]

That sounds Finey to me

 

[KingPrawn]

Bump Finley

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

 

[Phlash]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

 

[football fan]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?

Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

We have very different definitions of a "good year." A quick check of FFPC stats (premium on TE scoring) shows that Finnley has never finished in the top 8 at his position.

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[FUBAR]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

 

[football fan]

We have very different definitions of a "good year." A quick check of FFPC stats (premium on TE scoring) shows that Finnley has never finished in the top 8 at his position.

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I was being generous & vague, I know Finley had two years where he was productive & put up good stats (one cut short by injury), I wasn't ranking him.

Sometimes people skills matter.

Finley may have not been top eight, but he was borderline just outside of the top eight and if he was not hurt last year would have put up good stats for the year. Finley has talent and potential, he just never used it .

If a good TE is on a team with several good WRs, his stats are usually not in the top tier because everyone has to shared the rock.

If you see Finley play, you wouldn't see just the stats.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Tried trading Finley and 3.02 for 2.05 and got rejected. Not sure you could give him away right now.

 

[False Start]

If people are smart they will let someone else have this headache who has NEVER lived up to his potential and has been a major disappointment to many. Cleared soon, didn't they say that about Jahvid Best for a while?

 

[sho nuff]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

Other than their history with neck injuries...if he is cheap, Id guess he would be back in GB.

I dont' think he will just come cheap right away (knowing him I think his agent will still push for a decent contract). So he may hang around a bit in FA.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

Other than their history with neck injuries...if he is cheap, Id guess he would be back in GB.

I dont' think he will just come cheap right away (knowing him I think his agent will still push for a decent contract). So he may hang around a bit in FA.

Can't imagine anyone wanting to invest too much in damaged goods. I think he goes cheap in an incentive heavy deal.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Finley eyeballing Seattle.

Sure, they can have him. Never lived up to his hype here in GB. Maybe he can go to Seattle, but they typically pick up Minnesota rejects.

 

[Nemesis]

I had a 3 level fusion in my neck in SEPT.......and Peyton Manning had a 1 level fusion, but he doesn't take many head shots.

I can't imagine Finley playing a position like TE with a fusion.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

Finley and Pettigrew are pretty much clones of each other... they should target an upgrade

 

[KellysHeroes]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

I think you meant he had 2 good games once

 

[football fan]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

I think you meant he had 2 good games once

 

[menobrown]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?

Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

He was injured a lot and as I'll mention in a minute never a high targeted player. Those are some big reasons why his production was not that great but he playing big time football before he got hurt last year. His knee injuries are behind him now and if he's cleared I don't think his neck will be an issue. It's only an issue if it prohibits him from getting cleared.

As for being 27 you say that like it's a negative. I see that as his prime years coming up.

How often will he start on my fantasy team? Assuming he returns can't say until I know where he plays but if he returned to Green Bay, which I don't see happening, the answer would be every week. Just depends on where he lands, who the QB is, how much they feature the TE. I really think the Giants are a big possibility unless he had a bad relationship with Mcadoo. He goes to the Giants he'd likely be starting every week on my fantasy team.

The last bolded line is main reason I responded to this. I don't think anyone is forgetting he is playing with one of the leagues best passing QB's. But it's an offense that is not as pass heavy as people think and those passes are spread out among multiple options. Fact is he's never been that highly targeted of a player. Career high is just over 100 targets in a season and even if you play with stats to take into account his injuries he's still never been that highly targeted.

So we don't know what QB will be throwing in the ball so we can't yet determine the drop off from Rodgers but I if he lands in an offense that is more pass heavy than Green Bay and/or does not spread it around to so many different receivers the targets could more than make up for the QB drop.

Different position but I use Vincent Jackson as example. VJAX was never that highly targeted in SD and while Rivers was not as good as Rodgers he was very good during VJAX's last few years. So he leaves and plays the next two years with drastically inferior QB's in Tampa. But because he's more heavily targeted he would enjoy his two most productive seasons.

 

[football fan]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?

Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

He was injured a lot and as I'll mention in a minute never a high targeted player. Those are some big reasons why his production was not that great but he playing big time football before he got hurt last year. His knee injuries are behind him now and if he's cleared I don't think his neck will be an issue. It's only an issue if it prohibits him from getting cleared.

As for being 27 you say that like it's a negative. I see that as his prime years coming up.

How often will he start on my fantasy team? Assuming he returns can't say until I know where he plays but if he returned to Green Bay, which I don't see happening, the answer would be every week. Just depends on where he lands, who the QB is, how much they feature the TE. I really think the Giants are a big possibility unless he had a bad relationship with Mcadoo. He goes to the Giants he'd likely be starting every week on my fantasy team.

The last bolded line is main reason I responded to this. I don't think anyone is forgetting he is playing with one of the leagues best passing QB's. But it's an offense that is not as pass heavy as people think and those passes are spread out among multiple options. Fact is he's never been that highly targeted of a player. Career high is just over 100 targets in a season and even if you play with stats to take into account his injuries he's still never been that highly targeted.

So we don't know what QB will be throwing in the ball so we can't yet determine the drop off from Rodgers but I if he lands in an offense that is more pass heavy than Green Bay and/or does not spread it around to so many different receivers the targets could more than make up for the QB drop.

Different position but I use Vincent Jackson as example. VJAX was never that highly targeted in SD and while Rivers was not as good as Rodgers he was very good during VJAX's last few years. So he leaves and plays the next two years with drastically inferior QB's in Tampa. But because he's more heavily targeted he would enjoy his two most productive seasons.

I didn't say age was a negative, I was making a reference to why I wouldn't pursue Finley, after those injuries and surgeries.

I was making a general point, of why someone might not target Finley for their fantasy team. If you want to target him, go ahead, Finley might bring some ff value for a short time.

When Finley came into the NFL, and after some development time, the Packers targeted him very heavily early in his career (on a per game basis), it seemed like they threw Finley's way the vast majority of the time. Finley was extremely physically talented when he was young, and he was a project development type player because he had scored very low on his wonderlic (unsure of spelling) test and had to deal with an issue or two. IIRC, he scored a six on that test.

That is why some will not sell Finley low because they still believe in his upside and what he can develop into.

My information comes from being a Packer homer, and watching every packer game and living just outside of Green Bay, not from checking stats, or knowing partial information about the Packers.

I never said that every fantasy owner should not instantly drop Finley, I just stated why I moved on from Finley as one of my fantasy players while I gave my opinion of this situation.

If you want to rip or micro analyze my posts feel free, I am just providing some generic information. I learned from other good posters on this board, so I thought I would contribute some information for being appreciative of learning from others. If you feel the need to be a self proclaimed fantasy football expert go right ahead and rip and micro analyze.

 

[FUBAR]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

I think you meant he had 2 good games once

No, I mean it would be nice to have another attention getting receiver on that offense.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

We have very different definitions of a "good year." A quick check of FFPC stats (premium on TE scoring) shows that Finnley has never finished in the top 8 at his position.

/

I was being generous & vague, I know Finley had two years where he was productive & put up good stats (one cut short by injury), I wasn't ranking him.

Sometimes people skills matter.

Finley may have not been top eight, but he was borderline just outside of the top eight and if he was not hurt last year would have put up good stats for the year. Finley has talent and potential, he just never used it .

If a good TE is on a team with several good WRs, his stats are usually not in the top tier because everyone has to shared the rock.

If you see Finley play, you wouldn't see just the stats.

That's the rub with Finnley, you can look at his stat line and situation and see potential upside. But there is a decent track record of failing to fulfill that potential. At some point I have recognize who Finnley really is or you will continue to be disappointed. That is not to say if Finnley was a buy low option (and I mean real low), I might just bite. But I suspect these kinds of threads will keep his price high, and better options will be available at the same price.

"If you see Finley play, you wouldn't see just the stats."



All I care about are stats. That is the foundation of this hobby!

 

[JohnnyU]

I swear, Finley at his best reminded me of John Mackey. I said, this guy could be special, but I don't think he has it where it counts and that's in the heart and between the ears.

 

[Koya]

THIS IS THE YEAR!!!

 

[SWC]

the big thing brohans is that he drops a lot of passes he should catch and is a jagbagsupreme with look at me sauce take that to the bank bromigos

 

[TheBottomLine]

Was tired of this clown, traded him for a 5th rounder today. Would have traded him for almost anything.

 

[Darryl Talley]

Might as well bump him.

 

[False Start]

Interesting since he is allowed to talk to other teams today, Falcons need a TE.

Jermichael Finley ‏@JermichaelF88 28m
GoodMorning ATL!

 

[fantasycurse42]

Thought he was retiring?

Guess he looked around and didn't find any other $3MM a year jobs offering employment

 

[monk]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

Glaring Need? Pettigrew and Fauria? You could do much much worse

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

Glaring Need? Pettigrew and Fauria? You could do much much worse

Pettigrew is a UFA. Fauria was a UDFA and has 18 career catches, and the only other TEs on the roster are guys named Matt Veldman and Michael Williams. I'd love to see a team "doing much worse" at the position.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Thought he was retiring?

Guess he looked around and didn't find any other $3MM a year jobs offering employment

He does get 10 million guaranteed after taxes if he never plays another down because of his neck injury. Took out an insurance policy.

 

[menobrown]

Interesting since he is allowed to talk to other teams today, Falcons need a TE.

Jermichael Finley ‏@JermichaelF88 28m
GoodMorning ATL!

Interesting in that if I could come up with a perfect landing spot ATL would likely lead the list and based on previous reports he was due for his follow up exam in Pittsburgh yesterday. BUT, he's in Atlanta for a wedding.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Thought he was retiring?

Guess he looked around and didn't find any other $3MM a year jobs offering employment

He does get 10 million guaranteed after taxes if he never plays another down because of his neck injury. Took out an insurance policy.

Not how it works... If he is capable of playing, he doesn't collect.

 

[menobrown]

Thought he was retiring?

Guess he looked around and didn't find any other $3MM a year jobs offering employment

He does get 10 million guaranteed after taxes if he never plays another down because of his neck injury. Took out an insurance policy.

Not how it works... If he is capable of playing, he doesn't collect.

If he never had the neck surgery he would never have been capable of playing and he would have collected since the surgery was optional. So if all he wanted was the money he could have just bypassed neck surgery and taken the money.

 

[monk]

Pass.

Finnley's production has never matched the hype.

Buy low

He had two good years, and he is also soon to be 27 years old with neck and knee surgeries. There are so many good options at TE, I am not sure Finley is worth the price. How often will he start on your fantasy team? You might get a good year, maybe two out of him, but at what costs?Playing TE rather than QB with a neck surgery is two total different situations. TEs are involved in a lot more physical contact throughout the course of a game than a QB.

Finley might be a good buy low, but I will not waste my time with him.

People forget that Finley was playing with one of the leagues best QBs, if he leaves Green Bay, he will probably be in a worse passing offense.

True, but if cleared, the Lions should take a chance on him if he's cheap. Lot of other teams could too, but he'd fill a glaring need in Detroit.

Glaring Need? Pettigrew and Fauria? You could do much much worse

Pettigrew is a UFA. Fauria was a UDFA and has 18 career catches, and the only other TEs on the roster are guys named Matt Veldman and Michael Williams. I'd love to see a team "doing much worse" at the position.

Off the top of my head Giants, Jets, Atl, GB, and more

 

[Shutout]

Curious if anyone has heard of any info on him.

Is his career over?

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Curious if anyone has heard of any info on him.

Is his career over?

After the season begins a player can be signed without his full year salary being guaranteed. The fact that Green Bay did not sign him in the first three weeks, given how bad a mess they now have at TE and the minimal financial risk it would be to sign him, says all I need to know. It looks like he's done.

 

[ebsteelers]

why would he come back?

isnt his insurance policy 10 million tax free?

no team would guarantee that much for him

 

[Shutout]

Thanks to both. Good points. Hadn't heard anything in a while.

 

[th3f00l]

Bump Finley

 

[Da Gildz]

Snooze. GL to him in his future endeavors though.

 

[mr roboto]

If he did come back he would immediately be the Packers best TE. They are struggling to get the middle of the field open.

 

[Jeremy]

I think there's more to the insurance policy than simply deciding not to play again. But I agree with Bruce that he's probably done. I'm holding a little longer in my dyntasy league only because I've got plenty of room.

 

[93_Confirmed]

He'd be a nice fit for BAL or MIN.

 

[Bri]

Curious if anyone has heard of any info on him.

Is his career over?

he did a few tryouts during the summer and no one wanted him. Gotta figure his career is over.